When is it necessary? If anybody advocates for a mixed or free market, how do they address the problems of (technological) stagnation, regulatory capture (if applicable), and hostile takeover or interlocking directorates?
Trust Busting
Henry Russell
Luis Fisher
libertarians tell me they form back together anyways
Dominic Cooper
Mason Ortiz
>jewish endocrine disruptor foods
Austin Wright
Libertarians don’t just lick boots on this topic, they gag on them. Any reasonable Presidency would dust off the anti-trust laws and fuck the consolidated media sideways and reestablish the free press.
Jaxson Nguyen
Personally, it seems to me that capitalism is best when companies are competing to provide the best product/service to the customer, and not when they've grown to the point where they can collaborate implicitly or explicitly with their supposed competitors to divide markets and effectively sit and squeeze out profit for the same, minimally changing thing year after year.
Landon Diaz
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Grayson Barnes
Only brands on there I consume are "Brisk" [ice tea mixed with a bit of orange soda]
And use to consume hamburger helper but I make it on my own now just fine.
I think I make a good effort avoid kike products
>I don't drink that mix often.
Kayden Morris
Exactly one reason we should force the brands to explode.
They figure out ways to maximize profit by delivering the same, mediocre experience across the globe, lowering it to the simplest palette, cheapest cost, and most uniform input ingredients.
If those companies were forced to compete, they would have to differentiate themselves instead of providing the bland, corn-syrup filled recipes they insist on dishing out to the population of every country they can stick their tendrils in.
Leo Hernandez
The problem is, that when companies reach the size they are now, it's very easy for them to entice the little startups or suppliers with a buyout and then fold the competitors' former uniqueness into their existing brands/product structure.
It's easier to get away for simple foods like meat and bread, but even ketchup and mayonnaise have disappointingly few affordable or widespread alternatives to Heinz or whatever generic corresponds to your favored supermarket chain.
Nolan Price
This is true. But the lift style I took had me take on professional cooking skills.
Here in Alberta.getting Fresh ingredients and turning them into anything like Mayo or [Canadian] Ketchup [if i even want that] isn't hard.
The only other big products I've consumed recently and enjoy is Alexander keiths,Rickards Red and Johnny walker, Black. Don't know who owns that.
Trying to get into brewing my own or finding people who do it larger scale.
I try to avoid big products and happily learn new skills in the process
Adrian Allen
You don't want government involved in anything.
Ever.
No, not in negative externalities - nothing.
Luis Thompson
I'm more annoyed with the effects in automobiles and telecommunications than anything else.
US car companies pump out the same models year after year with little to no change except a surface design shuffle, and maybe just enough new parts to make it harder to fix on your own. At the same time they make the parts break at certain miles, to guarantee you're either purchasing spares and going to the mechanic (modern fuel injection engines are near impossible to work on yourself), or to set you up for another car in about 5-8 years.
Chase Walker
Ok, then tell me how these situations would resolve themselves.
It's been proven that companies will cling tenaciously to their revenue streams against all else, and you think taking away the hammer over their head will make them put morals in front of that?
The only other option is for competition to arise is from hostility (aggressive expansion, poaching employees, corporate espionage, etc) which seems to be left out of the Libertarian wet dream but is present in literally any pragmatic discussion of the ideology.
Dylan Bennett
*morals or anything else for that matter
Nolan Parker
They bribe the hammer to hit other people, which is why they often get so big and get away with things they couldn't in an actually freely competitive marketplace.
Connor Reyes
Oh the Automobile and telecom
Yeah that is an issue. I own a 1990 Lincoln personally and it gets me where I need to go.
And won't be buying anything newer then that. Have a grand father who will hook me up with some well maintained shit when he passes on or if i buy it before then.
As for Telecom. Harder problem to get around. Those companies listed above are all american and I don't see them here.
Currently use Telus [not sure who owns that] but would prefer something smaller. Telecom is the hardest to overcome I find
Luke Edwards
>Companies intentionally hijack the only tangible mechanism the consumers have as retribution besides "vote with your dollars" meme
>Trust me, they wouldn't be a problem if regulation didn't exist
Parker Kelly
The existence of a state makes it easier to form monopolies.
Christopher White
Consumers have next to no relation with what bureaucrats do - they neither know nor care enough for a ridiculous number of reasons which can be explained to you if you need them.
And saying "vote with your dollars" is a meme while you SIMULTANEOUSLY say
>It's been proven that companies will cling tenaciously to their revenue streams against all else
is really something special.
"Regulation" doesn't make your life better off, it makes it worse because rich pay-to-players buy politicians to vote and enact selectively anti-competitive shit against their competitors and to give them sweet-heart government contracts, and THAT'S the "regulation" you get. Stomping on the competitors of these giant conglomerates you say you hate that would otherwise try their damnedest to provide you with better options so that you would buy what they're selling over the giant money-bag behemoths.
Jesus.
Adrian Robinson
bumping important thread