What was the real reason for America’s involvement in Vietnam?
What was the real reason for America’s involvement in Vietnam?
Chase Richardson
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Hunter Sanchez
It was a proving ground for military-industrial complex.
Noah Myers
It was fought to be mentioned in shit threads of a Chinese piggybank stock forum, for Canadians to sell shitty bants to Aussies in the up coming bant war.
Thomas Clark
Proxy war to test agent orange
Jonathan King
Smack. its the Golden triangle. CIA has always been in the smack business, just like afghanistan.
Ryan Price
Let's ask the nips.
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Brandon Nelson
jews
>who profited from it?
Oliver Long
To show after WW2 they could hold their own. But they failed miserably lmao
Lucas Johnson
and they'd actually worked themselves into a hysteria over communism
they aided the french despite everything the french were doing being literally antithetical to the very tenets the U.S. had been founded on, and it was just an ever-increasing goading by the "defense" loons that kept making arms and "advising" the french until the french were clearly out and they brought in a literal puppet U.S. educated Catholic to rule over a new "South Vietnam" that represented "sanity and reason and freedom before the commie menace" and drivel drivel drivel drivel and countless horribly violent deaths for nothing
Evan Edwards
The old "Domino Effect" theory. Couldn't let Mao continue his revolution to neighbouring countries, so they made up that Gulf of Tonkin false flag.
Owen Diaz
My pp up
Ethan Thomas
if that was the case, wouldn't it have been scaled back enormously after the failure in Vietnam?
Jayden Kelly
military industrial complex did, it was a long war.
also they were able to test out new weapons and things. In straight up battles the US forces demolished the vietcong
Mason Cruz
what in God's name do you think those people's incentive is to scale back their operations?
do you think they personally lost anything at all with Vietnam?
every single penny they spend is provisioned FOR THEM - without them providing ANYTHING in return - by taxes, which they get no matter WHAT they do
they only have incentives to expand
Alexander Garcia
WW1: "Holy shit, look at how much money we can make with war, financed through liberty bonds!"
WW2: "Holy shit, look at how much money we can make with war by selling weapons for the european gold reserves in exchange!"
Korea War: "Holy shit, look at how much money we can make with war, financed by the US taxpayer!"
Vietnam War: "Holy shit, look at how much money we can make with war, financed by the fixed Bretton Woods exchange rates at other nation's cost!"
Iraq War, War in Lybia, Syria: "Holy shit, look at how much more debt we can create and deficit spending we can get away with by keeping the petrodollar system alive!"
James Stewart
prevent expansion of communism and generate allies for the cold war. funny enough communist Vietnam actually purposed becoming a US ally in our campaign against china.
Kayden Sanders
kek
Ian Phillips
post memes
Brandon Price
To fight communism
Michael Barnes
Easton Roberts
id posit that ever since the invention of the computer the entire world has been in a very careful game of minesweeper trying to prepare ourselves as a species for our next stage of civilization. A step that'll make fire, farming and religion pale in comparison. Obviously if we wait until the moment we need to take the step to realize we need to take that step it'd probably end with extinction. (Caveat being that we have to consider the human drives of the very flawed people working towards this)
We were in Vietnam as a multi-purpose move in the very meticulous and perhaps even necessarily callous and clinical operation we're undergoing to keep us all alive. Communism is an ideology that many power hungry people have a reason to advocate for, same as fascism. The global order for democracy is meant to break down the national and social barriers preventing a species-wide stateless unification, but fascism and communism would do the opposite. We turn the heat down to nationalism and socialism and try cracking them under the heat and slowly reshaping it as needs be. Post-scarcity is the future, and so they favor socialism with an open hand as long as totalitarianism stays in check (why antifa isn't open lauded as heroes on CNN daily, only mildly encouraged as to fuel the war vs nationalism)
In short, we left only after the threat of communism had been seriously enough met that fighting on was more disruptive to the world peace than leaving.
Joseph Foster
60% Trying to stop the commies from taking over all of southeast Asia
40% Military Industrial complex using lobbyism and purchased politicians and political capital to put us in a conflict that would make them billions in taxpayer money.
Evan Collins
Because it was a french colony and the frogs need us to clean up their shit every time? And because we were fighting commies? What other reasons do you really need? Fuck commies.
Jaxon Morris
Shit was better in Saigon before Cong arrived. But sadly without it, we will probably will be Korea 2.0.
Jaxson Garcia
Nathaniel Williams
Just finishing "Nam" by Mark Baker again. Admittedly, it doesn't address the reasons for the war at all. It's just a collection of stories from the soldiers. It's harrowing and marvelous. Anyway, posting 'cause Vietnam thread and the book's right in front of me.
Nathan Bell
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Have some frogs in Vietnam.
Wyatt Wright
vietnam didn't happen
Xavier Taylor
>antithetical to the very tenets the U.S.
can you explain this?