Is oral sex mandatory in a relationship? I think licking pussy is the most beta cuck thing one can do. On top of that...

This is an advice board, just because the advice doesn't fit your "stupidity filled ideology" it does not mean it's not helpful. Who, if not a married woman with 15 years of pre-marital sex life could be a better judge if oral sex is obligatory. Deal with the fact that pretty much all women consider pussy licking like washing the dishes. They beg you for it but once you are routinely doing it they loose all respect for you, because a) you caved in and b) made yourself ther sub. This is simple human nature. Show me a culture where cunt licking is widely accepted and I show you a culture of effemiate men and "stronk and independant" womynz larping as men.

There is a reason why face sitting is the go to dominating gesture in femdom relations.

>a married woman with 15 years of pre-marital sex life
>pretty much all women

Trying to dress up personal opinions/preferences and made up statistics as absolute, general truths makes for bad advice.

It's not an opinion if it has showed to be true throughout millenia and still is in our degenerate current year. Ever thought that maybe you are the one advocating for a delusional position due to your own preferances?

This.

What the fuck am I supposed to do if I enjoy licking vag? Do girls really look down on it?

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If you enjoy getting fucked by nibbas as a man, you can either fight your socially ingrained desires and overcome them or accept your submissvness.

No. They suck you off, you suck them of, it's that simple, if it's one sided, it's about dominance, then you are a pussy. This faggot doesn't know shit about shit, he's just a sexist retard talking shit

>that amount of egalitarian kvetching to sugarcoat your submissivness

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yeah mine is too sensitive it hurts unless you do it really soft and gently

thats just bullshit i dont look down on it. i dont know any other girls who do

>women knowing what they want and feel

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Own it like an alpha. The only posters who say licking pussy is beta are beta virgin larpers.

>mfw I used to joke about people roleplaying women with this opinion

this is legit what sexist men think women think about oral just wrapped up in a larp.

If you want a blowjob, [most] women want oral. Not complicated.

I forgot my face

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Stop coping already.

Stop larping already, virgin male.

Whatever makes you sleep at night.

oh you're a sexist moron. that explains things

I mean, I'm a woman who's received and performed oral on women, to their great enjoyment, before. Stop larping because you're grossed out. Temper tantrums because you don't want to do something doesn't make it any easier.

>everything i don't like is sexist

If you find a girl who’s attractive enough, you won’t be disgusted. I’m serious.

Not the person you're responding to, but no, just you. If they call you out specifically for being sexist, that's a bit different to complaining about everything being sexist. I don't expect you to understand this, of course, I thought I'd just let you know.

It like the difference between saying everything is racist and "all white people are cunts" is racist.

Temper tantrum? I just explained multiple times how it has been seen through millenia. I'm not the one replying by simply calling people sexists and larpers. I gave oral on both sexes in my youth, I also fucked men in the ass. Those enjoying the later always were begging to lick my cunt. It's pretty easy to understand if one has no need for such coping due to an attached egalitarian mindset.

>It like the difference between saying everything is racist and "all white people are cunts" is racist.
Indeed, neither is an argument. Stop using buzzwords, maybe people will take you more seriously.

haha implying women don't know what they feel or want is overtly sexist. is that hard to understand for you? im not surprised

Greeks thought that sucking dick was manlier than licking pussy too. Faggot.

>sexual differences manifesting in behavioure are sexist
No wonder people claiming cunt licking and cock sucking are just the same wouldn't understand such basics.

Wrong. Most greeks considered it to be degenerate and those practising only molested young boys, like the bahupachi in afghanistan, which aren't considered males yet. Why can't faggots use their brain. Maybe get checked for syphillis, it does tend to affect the brain.

How it has been seen throughout millennia is not how it's seen now. Eh, I didn't call you sexist, I said this is what sexist men believe women think about oral, so I called you a larper (because you were pretending to be a woman and still are). Your "anecdotal evidence" isn't evidence, and honestly everything about your comments stink of incel larping.

That's in no way a response to what I said. Maybe re-read it, I was pointing out that the buzzword I was replying to was wrong and that you can't just tell people to go away when they accurately call you out. You've got to refute, not whine.

>How it has been seen throughout millennia is not how it's seen now.
Human nature doesn't suddenly change. Women still want a provider and stronk male, nomatter the fact that they can work themselves. Biology doesn't give a fuck. Deep down people still feel disgust towards race mixed couples, even those they wholeheartly agree with mixing it up shown in studies.

You can bring nothing bu useless insults to the table. Weak. Matches someone going down on women. You behave like one yourself.

The only kvetching and whinning comes from those insecure about thei submissivness.

>Deep down people still feel disgust towards race mixed couples
oh so you are actually an idioty who believes their feelings to be feelings of the entire race? I should've known I was talking to a "muh feels > reals" person.

Since your reading comprehension seems to be struggling, I'm a woman. I'm actually pretty close to the woman you're pretending to be, which is why I can so easily call you out on your larping. You're a bitter little boy with no concept of the fact the world exists outside of his desperate world view.

I'll repeat myself; Temper tantrums because you don't want to do something doesn't make it any easier.

>oh so you are actually an idioty who believes their feelings to be feelings of the entire race?
I was speaking about a psychioatric study, not my own views, you pleb.
washington.edu/news/2016/08/17/study-finds-bias-disgust-toward-mixed-race-couples/

>Since your reading comprehension seems to be struggling
Rich.

>I'm actually pretty close to the woman you're pretending to be
I would share my ovaluating sympto-thermal sheet and you still would claim that I'm larping, because that's the best you can do in face of what I actually explained here. You're a pathetic example of my sex and the reason I don't like to associate with other women. God only knows why your kind doesn't stay over at your containment website and has to subvert a productive board with your canned thinking.

No, you were talking about your own views that aren't backed up by that study at all. Ahem.
>As with all neuroscience studies, Skinner said, it is impossible to be certain whether the insula activation reflected a disgust response, since the insula is sometimes responsive to other emotions.
and
>Some people are still not comfortable with interracial relationships, or at least they’re a lot less comfortable than they would appear to be,
so when you say "deep down people still feel disgust" and act like it's the entirety of the race, it kinda shows your bias'. Just because of a 200 person study, there were results, doesn't mean it's everyone. Still struggling with that reading comprehension I see.

>ovaluating sympto-thermal sheet
definitely something I'd google if I were looking for something to "prove" I was a woman... No, I've responded several times to the meat of your comments, I'm just repeatedly pointing out you're not who you say you are as well. You can tell this as you've been responding to my comments aside from calling you a larper. I'm not sure, if you weren't larping, why you'd be lashing out and ad-homing so hard when called out to be honest.

I also like the fact I pointed out that I am similar to the woman you are pretending to larp as and your response is that it makes me a pathetic example of "your sex". Hmm....

You no lick me no suck

Science is never certain you mongoloid. But the study showed that despite saying A your primal brain can fell B. Stop beeing retarded, woman.

>and act like it's the entirety of the race
Nowhere have I said that, for fucks sake you dense cunt. #notall
But it'S a fact that biology isn't up to date regarding our social changes. You can't deny it without denying simple biology. Look at dating patterns and what men women still go for, despite the beta-magnetic contraceptive hormones fucking with their mate selection.

> if you weren't larping, why you'd be lashing out and ad-homing so hard when called out to be honest.
I just started to, because there is nothing which makes me as angry as retarded women thining what they learned at tumblr correctly represents reality. I brought example after eaxmple to the table and honestly a conversation with such ignorance is useless. OP already knows what he needs to know from me, so feel free to keep kvetching about how it's only fair to get your crotch wiped.

Still after so many responses your only argument and main point of referance is my supposed larping so you are able to call my some degrading words like "incel", "beta" and "virgin" showing how you see most healthy males out here - while also beeing angry that healthy minded women see men going down as betas.

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I can see why degenerates who have casual sex and ONS are opposed to it, but in a normal relationship with someone you love and are attracted to, how could you be that insecure?
>hurr it's gross!!!
That's what sex is. I never get how some people can be so passionless and dead inside.

This. And for some women oral feels better than penetration.

So you've tried to use a scientific study to prove your point, and when I refuted it as evidence your response is "science is never certain"? Woo boy, I'm not touching that.

You didn't "just" start to lash out. You've reacted poorly every time someone has called you a larper, not just me. You're still reaching here with your adhom.

You've brought 0 evidence to the table other than "that's how it used to be" and that's how you feel. These things are not evidence, they're your opinion. Even if the things of the past were true, it still has no place being used as evidence on a discussion of modern behaviours.If you think you've supplied anything else (aside from that study to back up your dumb, irrelevant to the discussion views), please feel free to point them out.

No, my main argument the whole time is that as a woman, I can tell you with good authority you don't speak for all women. I've also been saying, at the same time, that you don't speak for any women because you're not one, which is not to say that has been my whole argument.

I've not called you a beta or a virgin, and I said your comments smelled like incel larper, not that you were an incel. It's almost as if you're lashing out yet attempting to paint me as being unreasonable. I've no problem with "healthy males" and I've shown no anger to you, despite the fact that the opposite is not true. It's beginning to look a touch like projection from your end, man. Finally, I've no issue with you holding that opinion, as dumb as I think it is. I just have a problem with you falsely stating every woman shares you opinion, as I've been making pretty clear this whole time.

>science is never certain
You can be a lot more certain the rules of physics are true than what any hundred person psychology study says

someone's cranky ;)

u no suck, me no pay u

>So you've tried to use a scientific study to prove your point, and when I refuted it as evidence your response is "science is never certain"? Woo boy, I'm not touching that.
You don't understand how science works. No wonder you don't understand that biology takes millenia to adapt, not years like social structures. No further comment from me is needed to show your incompetence on that sector.

>you reacted poorly
Say the one calling everyone disagreeing multiple insults and passiv agressivly making it temper tantrums. Rich.

>ou've brought 0 evidence to the table other than "that's how it used to be"
Not even you can be so dense.

>my main argument is that you can't be a woman if you don't agree with me
>chuckles smuggly

You'Re using typical female psychological abuse tactics. Degrading and insulting just enough to make people angry, only to call yourself victim and the victim of your linguistic violence the ebil perpetrator.

>I just have a problem with you falsely stating every woman shares you opinion
I never said, every woman sahres the surface opinion, I said women will consider those men less manly on a far deeper level, just like we consider other traits on a primal level. You can have all opinions you like. In the end of the day you are only getting so aggresive to prove me wrong because you might have fallen for a social meme.

I'm off grociery shopping as you're a sargon tier argumentator.

More certain than X =/= certain

Bullshit blanket statements about entire genders are sexist. Sorry to break it to you

>he thinks giving head is submissive
>doesn’t understand that (You) are submitting your genitalia to the giving parties mouth, aka something that can bite or severely hurt your junk in a second

Giving a girl good head is one of the most dominant and masculine things you can do.

....I have a biology degree. Neuroscience is most a psychology with some biology sprinkled in, but I wouldn't expect you to understand that if you think biology takes millennia to change.

>disagreeing multiple insults
Calling you a dude and saying you're acting like an incel larper = insults, consistently calling people idiots and cunts isn't? Hmm,

>Not even you can be so dense
That's not any evidence of your actual arguements. Since you're not able to supply them when asked, I can only assume they aren't there. I have checked a couple times to see if there's anything powering your arguments other than your opinion but I can't see anything.

> Degrading and insulting just enough to make people angry, only to call yourself victim and the victim of your linguistic violence the ebil perpetrator.
What? Again, this pretty much describes you to a t in this conversation, not me. I've been much more polite and civil than you have, pointing out floors in your argument without attacking you directly. If you consider this female psychological abuse then I'm honestly not sure what to tell you.

>I never said, every woman sahres the surface opinion, I said women will consider those men less manly on a far deeper level,
>"A woman will instantly loose respect for you, the only reason (((media))) is propagating pussy licking is because feminist love to dominate men, and getting your cumbucket licked is a sign of submission, just like getting assfucked."
Where's the bit about the far deeper level? That seems pretty surface level to me. And, once again, I've yet to get aggressive. The only one who has legitimately lashed out at any point is you. You're actually unable to show me points where I've been aggressive, which is why you tried the "typical female abuse" angle earlier. Totally didn't exacerbate the larper stuff either here.

I don't know what that means, honestly. I just want a genuine response to any of my points that isn't "I FEEL THIS WAY!!!!" pretty much.

that shitpost, get a life or end it, don't burden others with the stupidity that comes with your existence

>suddenly a biology degree appears
>still denial of the slow changes in evolution copared with the social order

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There wasn't a reason to bring it out before until you wanted to presume something about someone else's knowledge level. Same way I don't reveal I'm female until it's relevant to the discussion. It's not complicated.

You said biology takes millennia. It doesn't. Sometimes it doesn't even take hundreds of years. It proves your lack of knowledge, and yet somehow you still think my response is inappropriate. Don't say something wrong if you don't want to get called out on it, and don't act like because I've literally pointed out a lack of knowledge that means I'm unwilling to discuss further if you admit you're wrong and remake your point appropriately.

If you'd like to respond to an actual point instead of consistently trying to derail with minor details, I'm all ears.

>It's not an opinion if it has showed to be true throughout millenia
By what data? You don't account social psychology, you don't for anthropology or biology, you don't explain the nature of sexuality. All you do is claim absurd shit without proving anything.

>Ever thought that maybe you are the one advocating for a delusional position due to your own preferances?
Logical fallacy eg straw man. Learn to debate or to troll properly.

No need your dollar

My first sex was he lick me. I like lick more than anything but will do intercourse if they lick. I don't like bj but will do if they lick. Lick feels REALLY good and followed around first sex lick guy like a puppy

I think you're missing out. There's nothing beta about licking pussy. I go down on my gf at least 2 -3x every time I see her. This past weekend, I didn't about 7 -8x, making her cum each time. She tastes so good, I love doing it.

I do agree about receiving it though. I don't really like it, so I don't ask her to do it.

This

ew.
mouth is for food, not for intercourse.

I’ve dated a lot of chicks. And I’ve always realized genitals are sensitive organs they get turned on no matter what. They are meant to excite for reproduction. I never quite understood why a woman needs to be told by another woman what parts are most sensitive. Friction does enough. I’m pretty average. I lost my virginity to a chick I couldn’t believe was a virgin. My shit literally slid right in and my whole hand as well. Took no effort. She said she said she was a virgin. But I’ve had way tighter pussy than that. Second shorty said she was a virgin I couldn’t fit my stuff in. She said she was waiting for a sentimental moment. So we stopped there. third said she only been with one guy however I could fit my whole hand in there. She introduced me to fisting. My dick was loose inside of her. I damn sure I’m not the only one. It could take your entire hand. besides fisting she needed oral. I made her piss or cum like 10 times after eating the cooch for like 3 hours. That’s all I could do. the fifth pussy she was average grip. The trick was to get her first because she used to get satisfied just making guys lick other men’s cum from her twat. First time I was going to go down on her I caught another men’s cum. Made her take a shower and proceeded to fucking. Just had to be the first one in and dump the first load to please her. Sixth was supposedly a divorced chick with an abusive husband I couldn’t even believe how tight that pussy was. It never even took abuse. I tried putting my pinky in and it bled. She enjoyed a good eating more than the actual sex. Her thing was foreplay.
The idea is simple women have different pleasure points. Some of their pleasure points are not even in their vagina. It’s the effort you put into their pleasure point. And how you reason with their emotional health. Oral will always be better than penetration. Because all the excitatory nerves are right in the front. It’s human perfection.

add to that the fact that it feels great for me as a man, and if I'm lying down with her on my face I can grab her ass in addition...
try it before you dismiss it

said the same guy that prefers to fuck my butthole that I poop from instead of my vagina

where the fuck did i say that you absolute spanner?

Not denying it are you?

???

>mandatory in a relationship?
Nothing is.
Find someone who agrees.

I'm breaking up with my bf over oral. Last two times he has forced my head to his crotch and tried to make me give him a bj. Not going to be sexually assaulted, period, by anyone. We have argued over oral from before once he realized I was not going to do it. He badgered me so bad I finally told him why, a horrible ex who only wanted that and I over heard him telling his friends he'll try to get me to give them a bj since I give great head. From that point my bf has been a crazy man.

>I think licking pussy is the most beta cuck thing one can do

Trust me, a sane woman (or even most insane ones) will not look down on you for performing oral sex, they will be thankful that you did so and be even more hungry for your dick

A woman won't see you as a 'beta cuck', only guys on Jow Forums write that shit. Like what the fuck, are you really not going to lick pussy because of some faceless idiot's opinion and your fear of his judgement? Because that's how it looks like. If you genuinely found vaginas disgusting then fair play but thinking of it as a beta thing is just stupid and you need to separate yourself from this site

>I was not going to do it.
Good for him. Maybe he'll find a real woman who likes satisfying her man.

This, as a femanon I'm super grateful when my man goes down on me, definitely makes the sex afterwards easier and more pleasurable, there really isnt a reason to stick emotions or ideaologies to it, sucking dick or pussy is good fun and makes for great foreplay before the main performance.

Roastie who’s having her monopoly challenged by a male detected

>gives great head
>won't share this gift with the people she's sexually active with

Well.

Ruining a relationship because you are frigid and value yourself higher.

That's why a lot of these faggots here whine about women dominating men when they lick your ugly snatch, but won't return the favor with a bj.

Grow up women

Enjoy your cats then.

>You tell him you’re great at giving head
>Gave ex boyfriend the succ ALL THE TIME
>”But none for you tho”
>Moved your head to his slag hammer a few times to get the fucking picture across
>”Not going to be sexually assaulted...”
>”My bf has been a crazy man”

Yeaaahhh... He’s dodging a massive bullet there. Good on you for sparing him all this disfunction you’re just overflowing to dump on him. Let him get a nice girl who doesn’t suffer a Madonna/Whore complex and throws accusations of sexual violence around an otherwise consenting relationship.

who hurt you?

This is such a passive agreesive reply, that there is no question about you beeing a salty woman. Fuck off to your containment board

I was molested by a clown during my sisters birthday party, but I hardly see what that has to do with it...

I'm this guy and that makes me feel better actually. She always seems very eager for sex with me going down on her as much as I do, and I'm glad girls really do appreciate it. I love her a lot and to me it's one way that I can show her that

im not salty nor a woman, but his/your rampant sexism and homophobia has to come from somewhere. normal people dont respond so aggressively to borderline sexual assault...

>I think licking pussy is the most beta cuck thing one can do
enjoy being cheated on

im sure your boyfriend really loved and appreciated that you are depriving him of full intimacy solely because of a previous experience with a shitty ex that you still think about and has such a large influence on you that you make important relationship decisions with your ex in mind.

maybe get therapy and try to work on your own issues before you start getting into relationships

No, you’re a woman.

Just so we're all clear here, all of you are essentially advocating that a woman be forced to perform a sex act she's clearly not comfortable with. There's a word for that. Rape.

No. We’re implying that she’s mentally unwell and should proceed with leaving him.

You’re projecting.

imand im saying that shes clearly fucked up if she is allowing a previous experience to completely shape her current relationship and isnt willing to even work on it. Her ex clearly owns significant real estate in her head and she will never be able to have a healthy relationship with another man untill she resolves her latent issue.

Ignore her, user. She’s trying to cover for her illness now.

>advocating that a woman be forced to perform a sex act she's clearly not comfortable with. There's a word for that. Rape.
We're advocating OP to eat pussy even though he isn't comfortable with it. Let that faggot OP and this chick both get 'raped,' if that's what it is.

Yeah
Enjoy your cats

>claims to be a biology mayor
>doesn't even understand the basis for evolution with is pressure and benefit
Explain how cunt licking should have suddenly become more socially accepted than during 4000 years of western civilisation, when not even lacto tolerance has made it's way fully into the european gen pool despite at least 7000 years of direct survival benefits.

You are claiming that people changed their actual views on it, despite it not having any benefits which would explain such a rapid evolution. What is far more likely that what society tells my external pressure has been accepted (like any other idea/-logie) while the brainstem still thinks "cuck".

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>rampant sexism and homophobia
You don't belong here, roastie. Take your beefflaps to somewhere else.

I don't mind eating a girl out so long as its clean.. and not like roasty. Clean innies with a little fuzz patch are ideal.

>fill in the blanks yourself

Literally what part of your post requires inference?

No it is not, don't do it if you don't feel comfortable with it.

I only perform it if I feel in the mood of doing so, otherwise I use it as a tool when I am too close to cumming to continue penetration meanwhile keeping the gf sexually stimulated while I cool down.

Receiving handjobs/blowjobs/enjoyment of penetration all depends on mood and setting.

The only piece of advice I can give you is to not interpet it as a black and white thing, and only choose to do stuff that bring you enjoyment.

Labia minora that are longer than the labia majora are caused by genetics, not sex or masturbation. I think it's like how some people have curly pubic hair and others have straight.
t. innie

toppest of keks

It's still disgusting. God marked roasties with the sign of the beef to always dwell alone.

I hate the porn-instigated idea that oral sex means one person servicing another to completion.

I need my dick sucked every time I have sex. It's more psychological than anything, I just need it to know she's 100% into the sex and into me/my body. But I only need it for like 1-2 mins, then we're fuckin'.
I also eat pussy every single time, but again for 1-5 mins tops. It's just an appetizer .

Well is your pubic hair curly or straight?