where do i find a boy to make out with me and flirt w me and not ask for more? everytime i get a make out buddy and tell them very explicitly from the start, I DO NOT WANT TO DATE, they always try to change my mind?? like what gives? they seem like level headed guys and respect my boundaries but won't get it into their heads that a girl doesn't want more than to make out and flirt. they think that i'm being physically affection and openly flirtatious, that there's still a chance for something long term except along the way, i will consistently say stuff to hint at their friendzone status.
am i being naive here? isn't it a good deal for guys (esp lonely ones) to make out with an above average girl and get to feel her good bits without commitment from either parties?
Why would a guy want to make out with you if it doesn't lead to sex?
Parker Morgan
people are inherently social animals
try looking for a psychopath i guess
Ethan Phillips
You're not "naive", you're a whore.
Lincoln Reed
some affection is better than nothing?
Leo Nelson
yes thank you so much for your insightful response, it's too bad no one will ever be a whore for you : )
Christian Fisher
>you won't get a whore Is that supposed to be an insult? You degenerates are beyond saving, everything revolves around sex for you people, to the point where you genuinely can't understand valuing anything else.
Landon Flores
sex is fun, you should try it some time
Jonathan Walker
Why don't you want to go further than making out? That just seems weird. Of course people are going to assume and want to go past that.
Ayden Williams
You need to find a very desperate guy and be very attractive. Many girls out there are more attractive than you and will want to have sex, so why would anyone settle for you?
Jeremiah Carter
I'd rather die a virgin than stoop to your level, filth.
Evan Torres
edgy as HECK
Mason Cook
You are literally describing yourself. Everything revolves around sex for you, to the point where you genuinely can't understand valuing anything else. Your entire brain is focused on one thing only: sex. Nothing else matters to you. Sane people can think of other things, you cannot. Your entire purpose of being revolves around sex. You are obsessed with sex.
Logan Anderson
Kill yourself. Or fuck with someone who is either a psychopath/sociopath, or engaged already who only wants you to give him your pussy for some release and then fuck off.
Parker Nelson
I think for most guys making out is a) just foreplay (eg ) b) inherently romantic You'd have an easier time finding a platonic sex buddy
Lincoln Williams
i do see your point. im actually a virgin but i want to practise kissing so there is no chance i'm going to give it away so easily. but kissing is ok since i've done it a fair bit.
Carson Scott
Well this is pretty much what I'm looking for at the moment and I'm not even looking because I know it's unrealistic. The chances of meeting someone else who is just up for some spooning and making out and nothing else is super low.
Logan Harris
That's not even my final form. >no u Excellent argument. This board is 90% relationship problems, and a large portion of those involve sexual misconduct in some form. Obviously a lot of my posts are going to cover the same subject. Also, opposing an obsession with something is not the same as being obsessed with it--apathy for the sake of a clean conscience is largely what got us into the current mess.
But more to the point, if I disagree with somebody, I won't automatically call them a whore or some other innately sexual insult. These people, on the contrary, are always ready to dish out "virgin" as a catch-all label for any opponent.
Colton Mitchell
>I won't automatically call them a whore Lying as usual eh?
Brandon Sanchez
what are you, 15?
Dominic Ross
literally hitler shitting up another thread, what's new
Jaxon Scott
At a club. I like kissing so I have no problem making out with a girl and leaving or her leaving. Doing it regularly though and refusing to go further is just being a tease and it's slightly sadistic.
Xavier Allen
yes but say the said male is unable to get with very attractive females so would he rather stay at home, being lonely and fap to porn or would he make out with a 7/10 and get to touch her tits/bum. surely the second option would outweigh the first?
Ryan Scott
Then said male is most likely ugly, fat, and smelly.
Alexander Bell
look for homo guys.
Ethan Cooper
Imagine that you run a pastry shop. Your pastries look nice on the display counter.
On your left and your right, there are other pastry shops that sell heavenly, delicious pastries scented with chocolate, cinnamon, butter and cream. Those shops let customers walk in, taste a bite and then buy a nice, sweet box of pastries to take home and savour - if they like.
Your shop hangs a large sign outside that says in big, bold letters - "Only sniffing, No Tasting!"
Now close your eyes and imagine which customers are likely to walk into your shop.
My 2 cents
Bentley Fisher
you are under the assumption that those guys can afford those other pastries. why would they not settle for sniffing my shop (for free i might add, no stress & no drama, dont even need to take me on a date) over nothing. they would prefer to sabotage the relationship entirely (by asking me out when i clearly said i did not want something long term)? aren't guys literally always complaining about having no females giving them attention/affection. my pastry crumbs should be of value enough : )
Lincoln Allen
The only real response is this:
Because it's fucking weird.
Aaron Moore
>am I being naive here? Absolutely. Your lack of consideration for the other person and your degeneration of complex social interactions into something transactional makes me believe you're autistic. Not even trying to be rude here. It legit sounds like something someone on the spectrum would say.
Owen Lewis
Because sniffing the pastries will only make them hungrier and crave it more. So it's like dangling a bone in front of a dog, but not giving it to them. Nobody (well, almost nobody) wants that.
Why the hell do you want that anyways? Why not just get in a normal relationship?
Elijah Perez
bc making out & flirting is stress free & fun? and i dont want to have sex or be in a relationship at the moment, for various reasons.
what's so complex about hanging out w a buddy but male, who you want to make out sometime?
Jeremiah Lewis
>what's so complex about hanging out with a buddy but male, who you want to make out sometime? So you're falsely equivocating what I said with your bullshit scenario, which us fine, since I'm just going to go out on a limb and say you're younger than 18.
To answer your original question, OP, you can find these people at clubs. They will likely be drunk. You run the risk of sending mixed signals and getting yourself raped. Are you old enough to drink?
Nolan Mitchell
What you're doing is basically dismissing their feelings, saying they don't make sense, while refusing to accept that you're the ine that's actually in the wrong Of course they would want more, because it's the actual way things happen - they're not forcing anything or being illogical or disrespectful, you are.
Jeremiah Diaz
This. OP is clinically autistic who can't think about anyone's feelings except her own.
Daniel Long
how is it a bullshit scenario when i EXPLICITLY state my terms & conditions of this supposed make out buddy agreement to them before hand and they happily oblige, saying they want the same thing and not expecting sex. and then 2 meetings later, wanting something more?
so i guess yes it is slightly transactional but how is it my problem if they insist on making the issue more complex/complicated than what it is? they are the ones investing feelings into the arrangement despite being told NOT to.
wtf. it's not like i've led them on? they are men with free will and capable of making logical decisions in regards to their emotions.
Hunter Cooper
Yeah, okay. I can dig that during my stressful studies. Where do you stay?
Angel Lewis
ignore him. puberty has been hard. he lurks around here replying to everyone hoping for attention. ignoring him is what hurts the most.
Jacob Smith
if everyone continues to ignore and inform mods of it they'll ban eventually. wish there was an option to automatically hide the posts for everyone.
Andrew Morales
>how is it my problem There may be a guy out there that tries to rape you?
I'm not responding any further. I've told you where you can have a chance to find these men. I've told you the risks. If you still want to keep on crusading your argument and ignore any advice dropped here, that's cool. You're more than welcome to continue formulating how your friends without benefits verbal contract is flawless and claiming that this hypothetical man is easy to find. I told you where to go. It's not my problem if you're not old enough to get in.
Craigslist and Tinder is also an option. Just protect yourself because the world is indifferent to how unlikely you think it is to be raped by a man who feels slighted by your advances.
You just answered my question. So the only guys willing to settle for sniffing your pastries are the beggars who can offer you nothing in return.
My 2 cents
Henry Cooper
Nah I could use what she's giving out. No strings attached fondling + making out can keep me in check until my semester ends.
Liam Wilson
>Am I being naive here?
No. Naivety implies that you don't know any better, and the fact that you made the thread shows that you do know better. You want someone to tell you you're not being unreasonable, which you sort of are.
To clarify, you are absolutely entitled to place whatever parameters you like on a relationship. But you shouldn't be surprised when nobody wants to be in a relationship with those parameters.
Unironically good luck to you.
Jackson Adams
i guess i hadn't thought this in depth about something so innocent. i tend to avoid bars/clubs when choosing my 'friends' and talk to them for at least 2 weeks on a regular basis before our first meeting. plus are date rapes still a thing in 2018? you'd think they wouldn't risk going to jail for some brief impulsive moments of fun. regardless, i will take your advice into consideration. thanks.
that's fine the guys who have settled for just kissing are not totally gag inducing, hence why i still kissed them. as long as they're a nice person and funny, i don't care if they're a lil desperate.
Jacob Bennett
>can keep me in check Quit the shit, user. You're desperate. She's not selling medication. She's handing out emotional baggage for free.
Hudson Mitchell
i'm actually almost done with my semester too.... where are you based?
Christian Butler
You don't seem to have much of an idea of how the world actually works. No one is going to be happy with just "making out," I'm not sure why you are so insistent on this.
No grown-ass man is going to be okay with just a make out buddy, making out is just a step to full-on fucking. This isn't a hard concept to grasp.
Julian Brown
ok but what about ? is this just a guise of him trying to get into my pants?
Hudson Turner
m8 I've been around the rosie more than a few times. I'm not looking for a relationship, and I'm not looking to catch something that'll make me take antibiotics. Southern California, LA area.
Aaron Wilson
>are date rapes still a thing in 2018? Is this a fucking larp, or are you really just a naive 16 year old?
tough luck kiddo, i'm from down under : ) just not meant to be
Dylan Lopez
Seems so. Good luck.
Brayden Baker
>m8 I've been around the Rosie more than a few times >don't want a relationship >sex and a relationship are mutually inclusive
No self-respecting man would want this kind of humiliating arrangement with a woman. You can make out after a date. You can make out with strangers at parties. It's weird to make a contract with someone and fondle their tits. Either focus on your studies so you can reel in women with your financial stability 5 years from now, or find a girl willing to actually respect your time and emotions and fuck you when you guys make out. Anything in the middle is straight up "I have Asperger's" levels of social misstepping.
Jeremiah Bell
>focus on your studies so you can reel in women with your financial stability 5 years from now That's a horrible goal to have - a career so you can attain women?
Juan Robinson
Guys want non commital sex or a relationship, bot this 1st base shit
Charles Ramirez
It's a side effect, not an objective, dumbass.
Justin Nguyen
Your issue is that the people around you are able to develop a linear, progressive kind of intimacy and you cannot. You are able to compartmentalize your feelings and separate them in ways that your average person who has been normalized to healthy intimacy cannot. This is not any sort of indictment on your character and merely a clinical interpretation of the psychological characteristics one must have in order to feign all the trappings of attraction and intimacy yet immediately abandon them when it becomes inconvenient.
I think the most valuable thing for you would be to seek some therapy and really figure out what it is about dating and commitment that either scares or repels you. Generally speaking its fairly abnormal to be physically intimate and affectionate with people and NOT develop some kinds of feelings so I suspect that you've perhaps experienced something in your childhood that has distorted your perception of intimacy and relationships. I know all of this sounds rather dry and boring but intimacy issues are a dime a dozen and come in all kinds of forms. Essentially, the problem isn't the guys you fool around with the problem is you. They develop emotions for you because that's what the human brain does when it spend a lot of time being physically intimate and affectionate with someone it is attracted to. I wouldn't say you're being naive as much as I would say uninformed. Explaining healthy intimacy to you is a lot like trying to explain color to a blind man. You have no frame of reference or natural adaptation to these mechanisms so it must seem very foreign to you. Get some counseling, it'll help put this all into perspective for you.
Juan Gomez
Having such stuff with people that you are not into a relationship with is not alright,if you respect yourself then go on somebody that you like,care about and feel good with and try to get into a relationship with him and then you can have all of these stuff with that person,as you see no man wants somebody that wants such stuff.Trust me if you go on that way you're going to be seen as a subhuman and everybody will use you or just push you away.
Justin Foster
These threads never cease to amaze me at how many desperate betas there are willing to do anything for the smallest bit of a girls attention
>aren't guy literally always complaining about having no females giving them attention Stop basing views on Jow Forums. I've barely ever heard guys complain about this irl. Only my friend who was insecure but he had so many chances to get girls and never realised how close he is. I doubt even he would be happy with a relationship that involved only kissing and nothing else.
Jackson Wright
Yee.
Owen Morris
So in other words, you are are playing mindgames with desperate guys, who very obviously will fall for you because of their lack of options. Dumb attention whore thread.
Andrew Perez
Keep telling yourself that, desperate betacuck.
Jaxon Rogers
wow, from a guy who has had this happen to him before, Fuck You.
Cant tell you how much this shit confuses and fucks with boys minds, especially when her intentions are poorly communicated. Ass Hat.
Man speaks the truth. Unlike girls, guys tend to actually want relationships and need them to be happy. You toying with them doesn't go over well any way you look at it.
Isaac Taylor
Where in Aus? Newcastle area?
Cameron Butler
>telling someone not to get caught up in some thot's kissing contract bullshit and instead either focus on studies or find a real relationship >this makes me a betacuck Literally how?
>Unlike girls, guys tend to actually want relationships and need them to be happy. That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard.
Jacob Scott
I'll subtract the need them to be happy but in my experience males want to be in relationships.
Bentley Taylor
Anecdotes aren't evidence.
Brayden Gomez
>in my experience I think it should be illegal to use this phrase in a sentence if you're under the age of 25.
Anthony Brooks
lol no. I can only imagine the most omega of faggots doing that. If you get me going. I'm going to want to bang you especially if we're not dating. If all you want is a makeout buddy then you can just fuck right off. There' no point to you. You're not putting out and you don't want a deeper relationship. I can't fathom how bad someone's life would have to be to settle for your shit.
Colton Stewart
>lying Ah, my hysterical friend. Of course not. For example, if I were to say "Europe for Europeans", there's a good chance someone who disagreed with that would call me a virgin. That's simply an insult they fling out because they don't like someone. I call whores whores. If you said you didn't believe in borders, I wouldn't call you a whore, even though I disagreed with you. 15-year-olds haven't mastered the art of edge. This thread is garbage and this board is largely garbage, I'm not doing anything to make it worse.
Asher Cruz
this is an eerily accurate observation of how i approach intimacy........ ngl i am rather amazed that some of these guys aren't as adept at compartmentalising their feelings as i am, since men are the ones with the reputation of being rational & less emotional.
if you actually bothered reading a bit further, i clearly specified that no mind games were involved.
yea ok im getting a theme here, apparently ONLY making out & touching & flirting w/o promises of deeper intimacy isn't nearly as fun to guys than for girls.
Nathan Gutierrez
Nice trips and I'm 25. I've been around the block Fair point
Sebastian Martin
That reputation about men is false and put out there by the media.
Jason Russell
>NEWCASTLE >SYDNEY where you at I need cuddles and some light groping
Carter Allen
Based Hitler destroying degenerates again.
Owen Williams
You’re a whore confused at men who want commitment. That’s all it is.
Adrian King
You’re a fucking lunatic. No man right in the mind wants to have a “make out buddy” that’s just weird. They either want a whole friend with benefits, sex and all, or a relationship worth investing in. Not this lukewarm halfhearted friendship thing.
Seriously who the fuck meets up with someone, cuddles for however long, makes out, and feels satisfied? You’re crazy, autistic, or fucking dumb. See a therapist.
Mason Thompson
You sound like one of those awful predictable roasties that throw out words like "incel" and "okay sweaty" whenever someone criticizes you but hey ill bite.
Yeah stop fucking nice guys, most of the time (myself included) if a guy enjoys you for your personality, breaking that physical barrier will lead to the development of romantic intentions.
Jeremiah Martinez
not with it if he can't fuck you. it's a waste of time you are a tease.
bro we been through this she not a whore she don't have sex she a tease
not everything... Wait do you count oral as sex?
you wouldn't say that if you ever got some pussy... or some d
truth
how old are you if
Jackson Adams
I'd go for it desu
Juan Green
never ever guys want pussy not to hang out kissing is a means to the pussy nothing more making out and flirting is only stress free for the chick dudes have to do all the leg work and basically become some character that the girl will find attractive
why do you consider the word virgin to be an insult but your virginity to be a virtue?
Adam Walker
(OP) not with it if he can't fuck you. it's a waste of time you are a tease. bro we been through this she not a whore she don't have sex she a tease not everything... Wait do you count oral as sex? you wouldn't say that if you ever got some pussy... or some d truth how old are you if less than 16 you do you otherwise suck a dick you will make him happy and keep virginity.
