Proof that accelerationism is a retarded strategy that does nothing but make us more likely to lose

No , you're the one who has never answered
>>WHEN YOU HELP OUR ENEMIES REMOVE OUR POWER THEN EVEN WHEN WHITE PEOPLE WAKE UP WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING.
>THE MORE POWERFUL YOUR ENEMY IS IN COMPARISON TO YOU THE LESS CHANCE YOU HAVE OF WINNING

If you think your revised definition of accelerationism will refute this point then provide it

so far you've provided 0 argument but just postured to save face after your retarded kike-sponsored psyop got exposed.

Wth are you talking about shit head. Google 'Accelerationist manifesto' first

Don't bother. This dude is probably a yid who wants us to be moderate with the illusion of choice so we can keep sending shekels to Israel no matter who we vote for. He doesn't understand how politics works. Lets just stop debating him and starting laughing at him instead. He isn't worthy of anyone's time.

You need things to happen quickly , yes but that doesn't mean you need to quickly help your enemy get stronger than they are already so that you'll have less chance of winning.

Instead what you need to do is wake white people up quickly WITHOUT helping your enemy get any stronger than they already are (and thus lowering your chances of beating them more than currently)

You quickly start a movement like lega nord. you quickly take back as much control as you can.

You're acting like the only options are
1. do nothing
2. allow or help your enemy to get stronger and more powerful than you.

This isn't true. We need to wake white people up to their interests as quickly as possible AND resist and prevent antiwhites from getting stronger.

Because it isn't about giving our enemies power, it's about crashing the system and economy. I'm going to leave it at that because you're just going to inevitably loop back to your same old argument. That's what you did in last thread when you were getting BTFO by everybody so you went into full denial NPC mode.

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>REMOVE OUR POWER
What power? Or better put, what good is this power if we're losing our countries anyway?

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>still repeating himself
Holy shit I just realized it, I've been arguing with a Jew this entire time.

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What revolution you fucking fantasist retard?

No really, stop posturing and walk us through specifically this masterful plan.

So you help antiwhites get more powerful and encourage white people to check out of society and resign all of their influence and control and form a smaller and smaller % of the population.

Then what?
No really , please , tell us the next steps of this master plan for how it all turns around and whites regain control of their homelands?

see the whole thing is bullshit

It's such obvious bullshit that you shills will try to avoid ever explaining it out loud.
Fully saying what the accelerationist fantasy fairytale is is enough to refute it and expose it as retarded horse shit.

I hope people on Jow Forums can see how dedicated these kike shills are viciously defending something that they don't have a shred of logic to back up.
Notice how they argue like poeple who know they're wrong. They offer no logical arguments in favour of how accelerationism and helping their enemy grow stronger will increase their chances of winning. All they do is posture and and try to manufacture a sense of dismissive consensus. classic kike shill tactics. truth and logic are toxic to these worms.

>our power
what power

Don't worry. I've been saging.

>Because it isn't about giving our enemies power, it's about crashing the system and economy.
1. it clearly is about giving our enemies power because that is exactly what you're proposing when you're saying that we should encourage and help mass immigration , encourage and help leftism
2. ah "we'll crash the economy" oh yes please tell me more .
> they want you to fantasise that while white people are living in their subsistence farming communities the state will magically explode and collapse spontaneously and retain none of its military power whatsoever such that a bunch of white farmers will be able to just walk into the ruins facing no resistence.

Is that about it champ? You shameless fucking kike.

trying to sell us this retarded, ridiculous fantasy as though jews won't be able to happily rule over and run a society where white people have resigned and checked out? Look at how shitty brazil is and yet it's still ticking overs and its ruling class are happy.
You think jews won't happily rule over formerly white countries that have degenerated into brazil but still tick over ?

You think they'll just magically explode and a bunch of white commune farmers will be able to just march in and take it over with no army?

utter stupidity. This is how stupid accelerationism is.

>vote in commies for more social and political destabilization
>more and more whites become uncomfortable
>they become so fed up a revolution starts
its that simple really you need to take away these peoples comfort otherwise nothing is ever going to get done

"The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day."

Sage

Daily reminder that Trump *is* acceleration as he is radicalizing the left to extreme degrees. Acceleration works both ways, as long as one side starts the fire. Reminder that anyone who suggests voting Democrat is accelerationism is a discord tranny.

The most infuriating thing about people like you is that you have managed to absolutely delude yourselves into thinking that doing nothing (which is actually what you're advocating whether you know it or not) is actually fighting. But you're not fighting, it's losing slowly. Which is what you "work inside the system" retards have been doing for generations. Yours is just a millennial variation on boomer cuckservatism, and it will end in the same fiery death.

you shameless fucking kike.

Even though you're vigorously and shamelessly shilling the antiwhite agenda by promoting this idiotic defeatism , you think you can try to point to me as a discord shill?

Me? Even though I'm clearly by myself and arguing with logic and reason and have truth on my side?
Do you not see that by pointing out discord shills you're just drawing attention to yourself.

real Jow Forums users will be able to see how desperately you shills are trying to attack this thread while ATTACKING THIS THREAD IN THAT TYPICAL SHILL FASHION OF NEVER PROVIDING ANY COUNTER ARGUMENT OR LOGICAL REFUTATION

BAAAASSEEDDD

op is mi6 tavistock glownigger

trump doesnt radicalize the left
the left is already radicalized
the right need radicalized
trump cucked the right hard
delusion at its finest

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>"The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day."

You're a tranny and will be dead by 30.

FIRST OF ALL EVERYONE NOTICE HOW HE DIDN'T ANSWER THE FUCKING POST AT ALL.

this is how you KNOW THAT THEY ARE SHILLS. WHEN THEIR POINT GETS CLEARLY REFUTED AND EXPOSED AS RETARDED THEY DON'T EVEN TRY TO DEFEND IT OR COUNTER ARGUMENT, THEY JUST IGNORE IT AND SHAMELESSLY SLITHER AND TRY TO DEFLECT ATTENTION AND MOVE THE DEBATE ON IN THE HOPE THAT NO ONE WILL NOTICE THAT THEY LOST

YOU AREN'T GETTING AWAY THAT EASY YOU FUCKING KIKE SHILL.
answer the post:
>Because it isn't about giving our enemies power, it's about crashing the system and economy.
1. it clearly is about giving our enemies power because that is exactly what you're proposing when you're saying that we should encourage and help mass immigration , encourage and help leftism
2. ah "we'll crash the economy" oh yes please tell me more .
> they want you to fantasise that while white people are living in their subsistence farming communities the state will magically explode and collapse spontaneously and retain none of its military power whatsoever such that a bunch of white farmers will be able to just walk into the ruins facing no resistence.

Is that about it champ? You shameless fucking kike.

trying to sell us this retarded, ridiculous fantasy as though jews won't be able to happily rule over and run a society where white people have resigned and checked out? Look at how shitty brazil is and yet it's still ticking overs and its ruling class are happy.
You think jews won't happily rule over formerly white countries that have degenerated into brazil but still tick over ?

You think they'll just magically explode and a bunch of white commune farmers will be able to just march in and take it over with no army?

utter stupidity. This is how stupid accelerationism is.

The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day

secondly, because unlike you I am not a coward shill who ignores my opponents points, I will also answer your post even though your entire post is a deflection of to avoid answering the points posed in my own.

>ou have managed to absolutely delude yourselves into thinking that doing nothing (which is actually what you're advocating whether you know it or not) is actually fighting. But you're not fighting,

The absolute lack of shame of you people. You're literally the one advocating not fighting and resisting while your enemy gradually defeats you and gets stronger and stronger. Infact more than that you're advocating helping them defeat you.
>you "work inside the system" retards

No , you quickly resist you dipshit. You quickly start a movement like lega nord. you quickly take back as much control as you can.

You're acting like the only options are
1. do nothing
2. allow or help your enemy to get stronger and more powerful than you.

This clearly isn't true.
>>hurr lega nord never happened durr hurr
>hurr politics is impossible to change but it will become more possible to change when we allow our enemies to gain even more control of the police, army, media, industry and every other position of power durr hurrrrrr

Some of us are already doing that as quickly as possible.
It takes time to red-pill normie NPCs though, especially with censorship

Why don't you address the real definition of Acceleration instead of looping back around like I said you would kike?

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lol this shill has totally resigned and given up on trying to defend his argument (i.e. his shill agenda) with any logic

Instead he resorts to spamming the thread and hoping that few people will notice it.

Because he knows that accelerationism has been proven to be a totally counterproductive strategy that helps the enemies of white people and reduces the chances of white people winning back control of their homelands.

This is how accelerationist shills are.

You can clearly see that even after being shown irrefutable logical proof that their strategy hurts white people and reduces the chance of them ever winning, they still try to shill for it totally unperturbed, the either just ignore the last point made that refuted theirs or they give up on the pretense of arguing all together and try to sage or slide the thread.

This is because it is a strategic goal for them to try and spread and popularise defeatist, counter-productive mindsets and ideologies that will weaken white people and make anti-whites more likely to win.

We have to more vigorously tackle these counterproductive, self-harming psyops. They're far too effective at superficially taking some Jow Forums sounding language, capitalising on some impulse or weakness and subverting Jow Forums into cheering for what is in the opposite of their interests.

Jow Forums is good at repelling direct assaults but far too vulnerable to these false flag subversions.
Jow Forums needs to use their critical thinking skills and examine every behaviour or trend and think properly about whether it is in the interests of the white race or whether it is what anti-whites would actually want Jow Forums to do.

If it claims to be in the interests of the white race but the reasoning doesn't stand up to any scrutiny and is clearly horse shit like (which gets refuted here ) then denounce it and throw it in the bin.

The point of accelerationism is that these poitions people are voting into don't matter because we're trying to forced the collapse and armed uprising.
You dumb niggerkike

I've given you countless opportunities to explain yourself but all you do is squirm and slither around.
The record is clear for anyone to see. You're just hoping that people will only read your post and not bother reading the rest of the thread.
the reason why you're declining to provide any defence or counter argument is because you know you can't .

South Africa was a slow boil. That didn't work out. And reversing course is now impossible because Trump and the Republicans haven't done anything

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Go back to your tranny discord juden. You've been proven wrong already both in this thread and the last by both me and other anons. Like I said I'm saging your thread and tabbing back just to laugh at you some more. You can hold onto your moderate movements like Lega Nord who kiss jew ass and give you the illusion of choice, I'm voting Vernin Supreme and crashing this fucker.

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The premise behind Accelerationism as a socio-political strategy is that the frogs are being boiled alive. Trump was considered the pro-White candidate in 2016 even acquiring the support of David Duke. Under Trump's regime American white genocide has not stopped, or even slowed, and continues in the background. Empty rhetoric causes whites to be complacent and not revolt trust the plan . The Right will genocide us slowly - that is (((their))) plan. The Left will open our borders and we will see whites resist just like they are in Europe because their replacement will be undeniable and at the forefront of thought. When the People realize both Right and Left do not serve their interest then the door is opened to a third position. If user says

>It's stupid to think Democrats are anti-Israel!

He may be correct, but there is no denying their current outspoken condemnation of the Jewish State. Should they renege on this position the masses will realize both sides are controlled by Israel, again, opening the door to a third position.

Accelerationism is risky. It's like taking a shot of venom directly in your aorta, but it may jump-start the European spirit. The alternative is being boiled alive. So pick your poison.

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What collapse you fucking fantasist? explain to us what your plan is.
I already showed that these vague allusions to society collapsing are nothing but complete fairy tales here , here and most of all here

Holy shit Jow Forums is full of stupid fucks. Accel came from marx, as an idea to speed up capitalism until it collapses to then lead to communism. The idea was later taken by Nick Land former marxist who after studying cyber culture, technology with CCRU at Oxford, and eating experimental amphetamines wrote a series of essays compiled under Fanged Noumea. He advocated the same thing as marx, except, he saw that what we will get is the cyber grunge tech singularity. If you actually want to know what accelerationism is, i suggest reading:

Fanged Noumena
#Accelerate, the accelerationist reader.
CCRU Collected Writing from 1997-2003
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>namefag
and everything you said doesnt even matter now
good fucking job boomer you were close to showing off that high iq
accelerationism has tons of meanings just like everything ever
accelerationism to some is as simple as just speeding up the collapse of society/government

Trump absolutely helped radicalize us. I was a moderate liberal before seeing a CEO become President of the US. Ever since then I've become a full blown tankie and so have many other leftists I know.

>the frogs are being boiled alive.
This is just a platitude . It is not an argument at all because the logical mechanics of the frog being boiled in cold water do not match the logical mechanics of our situation.

In the frog's situation the only choices are to be boiled slowly and never realise it is in peril or be boiled quickly and realise its peril.

This is not reflective of our situation because we have the ability to wake white people up to their self-interest without "turning up the boil" which in our case would mean helping our enemies become stronger and us become weaker
You quickly start a movement like lega nord. you quickly take back as much control as you can.

You're acting like the only options are
1. do nothing
2. allow or help your enemy to get stronger and more powerful than you.

This is obviously wrong. What we actually need to do is wake white people up to their self interest and do quickly and without letting anti-whites get even more powerful because the more powerful antiwhites are , the less our chance of ever beating them and regaining control of our homelands.

You're acting like it's impossible to start a new political movement and get popular support within 1-2 decades.

everything you say is framed under an assumption of impotence and defeatism.
yes the mainstream left and right aren't helpful but the alternative isn't to help our enemies grow stronger you cretin, it's to start a movement to wake up right interests very quickly.

Lega norde and several other governments and movements are examples of this.
and yet you people pretend lega norde and successful political movements that grow big over 10-15 years don't exist so the only option is help our enemies get much stronger than us which will clearly reduce our chances of ever beating them.
cont.

every "leftist" was already a communist by obamas second term

because as has still not yet once been refuted.
>WHEN YOU HELP OUR ENEMIES REMOVE OUR POWER THEN EVEN WHEN WHITE PEOPLE WAKE UP WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING.
>THE MORE POWERFUL YOUR ENEMY IS IN COMPARISON TO YOU THE LESS CHANCE YOU HAVE OF WINNING

My premise is that American white genocide is continuing under Trump and the Right, slowly in the background, and this will continue if we support the Right. However, allowing the Left to open our borders will put white genocide to the forefront of American thought forcing whites to address the issue, just like we see happening in Europe.

Prove me wrong, (((Moldbug))).

>Lega Nord
As if your gay eurotrash political parties do anything. Europe is a dystopian hellscape being overrun by your ancient enemy. But Lega Nord! Ridiculous. You are not actually resisting anything. What you are doing is engaging in a convoluted LARP and trying to work inside of a system that is designed to pacify you, and you happily oblige. And for what? Because you're afraid of a war? Like a woman? And your enemies are already more powerful than us. If they weren't, they'd be dead.

You're basically just a pacifist who is too cowardly to admit it. You talk about changing things with these pacifist politics, but what has actually been changed by them? Give me a concrete example.

But it's not necessarily helping them win. Actual accelerationism isn't voting to give them more power but abstaining from helping a weaker but ultimately same end side win. I won't vote red or blue because they lead to the same areas. If I vote red we just at best enter a neocon/libertarian consumerist slave culture for a few years till the leftists come back with smug "we were right faces."

>Lega norde and several other governments and movements are examples of this.
Lega nord is a kiked moderate movement you absolute brainlet. Every single legitimate fascist movement came to power through economic instability and chaos.

prove this post wrong.

Obama is a neolib faggot that helped expand American imperialism in the Middle East as well as the surveillance capitalism that became normal under Bush. Not to mention his anti gun bullshit. Also, the welfare state is not remotely communist. Under communism, everyone is given a job and education, you either work or go to the gulag. Under liberalism, welfare is dependent on the private sector as a band aid for the problems of capitalism, you cannot expand it to a truly socialist economy. Obama is mulatto kulak for all I care and it was criticism of the Democrats that drove me further left.

Anyway I need to go to sleep now. But I think it is important to keep this bumped to drive out shill efforts like explained in You can see how utterly furious and desperate to slide and deflect attention away the accelerationist kike shills are because they know that the posts in this thread refute accelerationism completely and utterly and show that it is a suicidal strategy that does nothing except help our enemies get stronger so we have less chance of winning and it tries to justify this suicidal strategy with defeatism and dishonest fantasy that doesn't stand up to any scrutiny.

infact not a single accelerationist shill in this entire thread has tried to explain or justify how white people practicing accelerationism and helping antiwhites grow more powerful and displace white people from all their positions of influence and responsibility will make society explode and thus allow white people to easily come in afterwards and take back control

They know that to even attempt to explain this fantasy in more detail than "we'll trigger societal collapse" or "we'll crash the economy" will reveal how utterly stupid and fucking delusional accelerationism is which is why every time in this thread I've challenged an accelerationist to explain their master plan for triggering societal collapse and communes of white subsistence farmers reclaiming control of the collapsed society , all of them have refused. every single time.

Honest to god why would I want to vote for a Republican who's just going to increase more money to Israel while cucking out to the dems because they don't want to be called a nazi? The time for redpilling the masses will soon be over, you can't turn every NPC into a Turner, it's time we focus on the one's who are still finding their way to final redpills and from there moving on. Sure if someone manages to find their way onto the answers then yes. Someone already posted the lemmings image which I normally do.

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lega norde is already enacting ethnonationalist policies and explicitly awakening and encouraging and acting out policies in the interest of the italian people.

secondly YOU CAN'T CAUSE ECONOMIC INSTABILITY YOU FUCKING DIPSHIT FANTASIST

YOU'VE BEEN CHALLENGED COUNTLESS TIMES TO PROVIDE AN EXPLANATION FOR HOW YOUR MASTER PLAN TO HELP ANTIWHITES BECOME EVEN MORE POWERFUL AND DISPLACE WHITES IN THEIR HOMELANDS WILL RESULT IN THAT COUNTRY TOTALLY IMPLODING AND YOU NEVER HAVE

ALL THAT HELPING ANTIWHITES GAIN MORE GROUND AND IMPORT MORE SHITSKINS WILL DO IS GUNGE UP WHITE COUNTRIES TO BECOME LIKE BRAZIL. DO YOU THINK THE RULING CLASS DON'T ENJOY RULING BRAZIL AND CAN KEEP IT TICKING OVER?
ALL YOUR EFFORTS WILL DO IS CAUSE WHITE PEOPLE TO BE DISPLACED AND CHECKED OUT OF SOCIETY AND THE ANTIWHITES WILL HAPPILY RULE THE RESULTING MUD COUNTRY AND KEEP IT TICKING OVER AND YOU'RE NOW POWERLESS TO DO ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU GAVE UP ALL YOUR POSITIONS OF POWER AND INFLUENCE IN ORDER TO HELP THE ANTIWHITE LEFT BECOME MORE POWERFUL AND BRING IN TONNES MORE SHIT SKINS.

like a typical braindead accelerationist shill you did not respond to the part of my post that refuted what you're saying and are just pretending it isn;t there and restating your point that has just been refuted.

The only options aren't simply "vote for mainstream political parties" or "help antiwhite enemies become more powerful so that we'll have less chance of ever winning against them in the future.

I already gave you what the actual strategy to follow is.
hat we actually need to do is wake white people up to their self interest and do quickly and without letting anti-whites get even more powerful because the more powerful antiwhites are , the less our chance of ever beating them and regaining control of our homelands.

You're acting like it's impossible to start a new political movement and get popular support within 1-2 decades.

everything you say is framed under an assumption of impotence and defeatism.
yes the mainstream left and right aren't helpful but the alternative isn't to help our enemies grow stronger you cretin, it's to start a movement to wake up right interests very quickly.

Lega norde and several other governments and movements are examples of this.
and yet you people pretend lega norde and successful political movements that grow big over 10-15 years don't exist so the only option is help our enemies get much stronger than us which will clearly reduce our chances of ever beating them.

What you are offering is nothing new nor does it need to be heeded by accelerationists, that's the real beauty is that if enough people band together and decide they don't want to have a society anymore then its over. Collapse can present in many ways, famine, sickness, starvation, economic collapse, artificially encouraged violence. You have one idea how it may go down but dozens of exploitable weaknesses are present in society. If you don't want this you should be convincing everyone of your plan to save society because minds are already made up and your time to act is running out. No one has to convince non actors to do anything, they just ignore them.

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>we actually need to do is wake white people up to their self interest
and how do you plan to do that, user?

>oy vey goy don't cause economic instability, then we can't tax you everything and make you our goyim slave
>don't let leftists have the spotlight to show the normie whites how anti-white and crazy they are.
>don't burn money, that might cause ECONOMIC INSTABILITY
>don't make fake SJW Twitter accounts and attack moderate right wingers to further radicalize them
>don't use simple sabotage tactics on infrastructure. If you do that then the system we use to enslave you might crumble

(You). Now fuck off Jew.

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going to sleep now. Remember that accelerationism is a retarded idea that tries to convince you of the patently wrong notion that by helping our enemy who take control of our homelands become more powerful and numerous, we will have a better chance of defeating them in the future.

This is obviously totally false . Helping your enemy become more powerful and numerous does nothing but severely reduce your chances of ever defeating them and taking back control of your homelands.

This is a fact. You have less chance of defeating a more powerful enemy than a less powerful one.

a strategy that does nothing of reduce our chance of defeating our enemy and taking back control of our homelands is automatically a suicidal strategy.

that's what accelerationism is, it's a strategy that does nothing but reduce our chances of winning. None of them have been able to refute this.

rather than help our enemy get more powerful what we need to do is wake up white people to their self interest as quickly as possible and start a movement to take back our countries without letting our enemy get more powerful than they already are (which would reduce our chance of ever winning).

youre suddenly too sleepy to explain your master plan? see: you have no argument. Accelerationism 2020

>Acceleration
Right wing thought is basically organic thought. It activates when you are exposed to harsh realities. Your survival instincts, if they are healthy, will kick in and you will know what to do. "A wake up call" is what they call it.
By accelerating the badness you will be giving more and more people a big wakeup call.

tactics like those outlined in rules for radicals, taking lessons from other successful movements and examples, lessons from successful models of modern democratic, first world ethnonationalism i.e. israel the only first world country that has managed to achieve explicit ethnonationalism.
lega norde shows it is possible.

you're the non-actor you suicidal cunt. worse than that you're not only doing nothing to help white people take back their countries you're actively helping our enemy grow stronger and so reducing our chance of ever defeating them and taking back control of our homelands.

>Collapse can present in many ways, famine, sickness, starvation, economic collapse, artificially encouraged violence.

right and once white people have helped antiwhite forces become stronger than they are now and white people have checked out from society and have no influence or control or seniority over the essential sectors of society like the military, the government, the media, industry , etc. because you've "accelerated" and helped antiwhites to fully take over all those sectors, then your population of white people on the bottom of society living in subsistence farming communes will be able to cause society to collapse , right?

Even a ruling class can easily keep a shitty country ticking over comfortably like brazil and at no point would they be vulnerable to a group of disenfranchised white people without any power left in society violently taking over.

Your fantasy is so fucking stupid. The only way for taking back control either via violent revolution or through political uprising is if we white people have more power and influence than our enemies.

Your plan goes entirely against that essential criterion you fucking dipshit

Your smug stupidity is so infuriating. Is it because you're american? Is this suicidal ideology something that only americans are vulnerable to?

ACCELERATE THE COLLAPSE

>do whatever you can to drain the system, 2030 is the contributor/dependency tipping point:

>inviting third world family reunion, preferably older uncles/anties and parents in to destroy the welfare system
>if not them then preferably Somalis, Africans (the biggest net drain)
>destroy the health system by using it as much as possible
>pay as little tax as possible - if you can move assets overseas (never hold assets in banks) do.
>encourage those that don’t work, help them fake illness, create other dependences aka single mothers
>get protection
>watch as the service sector slowly shrivels and the middle classes finally wake up to their future

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>israel the only first world country that has managed to achieve explicit ethnonationalism.
...
>we should praise israel as a model ethnostate for whites despite the fact israel engages in white genocide
LOL jidf pls go

cry bitch

It's not about winning or losing it's about everyone fucking dying and ending this nightmare ride. You're retarded if you think it's possible to turn back. Everyone tried to be reasonable and to debate but were met with assaults and "fuck free speech" and NAZIS. Trump turned out to be Jeb Bush. So what is left? What possible avenues are available, besides, you imply any of us have a choice in the matter. Shit is accelerating whether you want it to or not. At least if humanity hits the reset button there's a CHANCE we can start over. Fuck bongs btw, always the most obnoxious counter signalers on this board.

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WHAT THE WINNING STRATEGY ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE IS TO WAKE WHITE PEOPLE UP TO OUR RACE'S INTERESTS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WHILE WE STILL HAVE SOME POWER

WHILE WE STILL HAVE SOME POWER

WHEN YOU HELP OUR ENEMIES REMOVE OUR POWER THEN EVEN WHEN WHITE PEOPLE WAKE UP WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING.

THE MORE POWERFUL YOUR ENEMY IS IN COMPARISON TO YOU THE LESS CHANCE YOU HAVE OF WINNING

A STRATEGY THAT REDUCES YOUR CHANCES OF WINNING LIKE ACCELERATIONISM IS A SUICIDAL STRATEGY.

THAT'S IT
THERE IS NO COUNTER ARGUMENT TO THIS.

It is clearly possible to wake white people up to their self interests without weakening their position so much that they'll have little chance of doing anything about it. Lega norde shows this.

We need to wake white people up while hindering our enemies from getting stronger and is possible making them weaker.
That's the strategy we need to win.

successful political movements clearly aren't impossible.

Why do you think accelerationism is equivalent to "making our enemies stronger"
In my eyes, accelerationism IS waking white people up. We notice when niggers get preferential treatment, when mutt faggots say white men are terrorists, when prairie niggers point the finger at white kids.
Do you think we're out here voting for Hillary or something?

He was German in the last thread

No you retard, the more non-whites are brought in the harder it will be to take back control of the country.

The stronger our enemies become , the more power and control they have, the less likely we will be able to win and take back control

Accelerationism is trying to claim that by helping the left grow stronger without resisting , the better our chances will be of defeating the left.

It's completely obviously fucking wrong.
>WHEN WE'RE LESS POWERFUL AND OUR ENEMY IS MORE POWERFUL, WE'LL BE MORE LIKELY TO WIN DURRRRRRRRRRRR HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
How exactly will our grandchildren be more likely to win when they will constitute a far smaller % of our country and anti-whites will occupy far more positions of power, influence and responsibility in spheres like industry, the military, politics, communication than white people?

Will a bunch of white people living in subsistence farming communes who have given up all their power and influence in society magically be able to take back that control within that society?
Or will these communes of white poeple wage war on the states they retired from without any standing armies?

you complete fucking retard. Can't everyone see that this is total fantasy that does not make one bit of sense?

see
because he's a JIDF shill scared of losing control over the American people

>frog thrown into cold pot to slowly boil to death
vs
>frog being thrown into a boiling pot and immediately reacting to it

man, this is tough...

>make our enemies stronger

Our “enemies” are also our dependencies. He doesn’t get it. He’d rather we slowly self-ghettonize into our own ethnic enclaves and let (((democracy))) fix it. It isn’t fixable now. Instead it needs to burn.

>We have multiple times.
>[citation needed]

>implying the goal is to win
the goal is just for something to happen. this life is so boring and nothing ever happens. i want these boomers to suffer for their decisions before they go out, dont you? we’re all going to hell anyway.

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you're just repeating the same empty phrases over again about muh power and muh enemy stronk. I'm talking about accelerating political and racial tensions from the national to the global level to initiate a nuclear holocaust that wipes out every human from the face of this gay planet. You're screaming at the wind and calling it retarded for not changing course to the way you want. It's a force of nature - you can't stop it. Also no where in your post did you answer what the alternative is or what solutions are available.

I am not disagreeing with this.
It's why I don't advocate acceleration, but, I am familiar with the point of acceleration.

I actually think that we can achieve the right desired effect by exposing people to the horrifying realities of what is going on behind the scenes. The things the mainstream media keeps hidden. The genocide against Whites in Africa is one of those things, but also the various hate posts against Whites helps too. When White see this shit, their survival instincts activate. I know liberals offline that admittedly say "I don't care about being called racist anymore" so I know this shit is working.

I don't think we should give an inch, but, remember that acceleration does have this positive effect too. All roads lead to a WN Rome I believe. One way or another, it's where we are going. I just want it to be smooth sailing.

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this retard actually thinks there is a political solution to the problem.

True. The only idiots pushing for this are satanic or antifa. So please do not push for accelerationism, faggots.

>everyone who disagrees with me is a jew
No wonder natsoc is stagnant.

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based and blackpilled. evil things deserve to be destroyed. we are evil by any standard you can construct.

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If the power goes out and stays it doesn't really matter who is Governor or CEO, or are you being intentionally obtuse. Who is "our enemies?" What if I think your allies are my enemies? What are you going to do to stop accelerationists that you failed to convince? Resistance in the face of an entrenched system is intrinsically American, just like bowing to authority and doing what you are told is quite British.

It's a dog eat dog world and I have bigger teeth than you.

accelerationism is the only way to go . we are soon minority

just read the replies in this thread and the older thread The accelerationists agree that they intend to accelerate antiwhites taking control white countries and flooding white countries with shitskins by voting for mass immigration and helping antiwhite ideologies get more powerful.

All of these things clearly explicitly make our enemies stronger so we will have a harder time of ever defeating them in the future.

You seem more reasonable than the rest of these retards and shill since you at least recognise that you have less chance of defeating a stronger enemy so it is always a bad strategy to make your enemy stronger.
You can tell that nearly all of the other people in this thread are shills since they never answer this and always deflect with
>ha but voting for conservatives won't help us! (refuted and many other places)
>but we're like a frog in boiling water, we have no choice but to boil slowly without realising or boil quickly and maybe jump out (refuted here )

You need to look at what your fellow accelerationists are advocating in this thread and realise how fucking suicidal and braindead it is.

It is exactly what antiwhites and kikes want you to do which is why this thread has so many obvious shills like

>Accelerationism is trying to claim that by helping the left grow stronger without resisting , the better our chances will be of defeating the left.

THE LEFT FUCKING DESTROYS ITSELF AND EVERYTHING YOU SPASTIC THATS WHAT WE WANT

>goal is chaos
>accelerationism increases chaos
>Jow Forums achieves goal via accelerationism
QED

t. jew scared of the acceleration

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>actually think that we can achieve the right desired effect by exposing people to the horrifying realities of what is going on behind the scenes. The things the mainstream media keeps hidden.

Most people don’t care or know till it’s punishing them in the face, we’re in the Brave New World and the masses are far too distracted

>oy vey goy don't cause economic instability,
What exactly makes you think you have the power to do that?

See

It's not empty phrases, it's cold hard logic that you can't refute.
You want to help import more shitskins which puts whites at an increased demographic disadvantage.
You want to help antiwhite leftist ideology become stronger which obviously also puts whites at a disadvantage and makes our enemy force more powerful.

the more powerful your enemy is the lower chance you have of beating them. the more powerful antiwhite forces are the less chance we have of ever taking back control of our homelands from them.
A strategy that lowers your chance of winning is suicidal and it would be retarded to choose.
therefore accelerationism is retarded and suicidal.

Neither you nor anyone else has ever been able to refute a single line of this because it is all clearly logically true.

>initiate a nuclear holocaust that wipes out every human from the face of this gay planet.

See now we can see the pure defeatist , suicidal fantasist nature of accelerationism.

They want the veneer of legitimacy , to be treated as though they're an actual strategy to help the white race, but really they offer nothing.

> Also no where in your post did you answer what the alternative is or what solutions are available.
I've done that many places you worthless worm.

>Why do you think accelerationism is equivalent to "making our enemies stronger"
because you support voting for Leftist politicians so that they can enact Leftist policies that make life miserable for white people in the hopes the white people will wake up. It's not complicated.

Let's pretend the Holocaust happened for a moment. Zionist accelerationism would be a Jew voting for the Nazis and supporting their policies in the hope they make German Jews miserable enough to migrate to Palestine and that Nazi economic policies will cause the collapse of Nazi Germany before it poses a threat to any Jews. Accelerationism is pretty fucking dumb when you think about it like that.

What happened to going to sleep? Even suicidal ideologies seem logical when refuted by a sperglord with no answers.

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>If the power goes out and stays it doesn't really matter who is Governor or CEO
revealing the fantasist character of accelerationism.
"the lights go out"
how fucking cringe.
>Who is "our enemies?" What if I think your allies are my enemies?
yet more edgy cringe betraying a retarded emotional development.
>Resistance in the face of an entrenched system is intrinsically American, just like bowing to authority and doing what you are told is quite British.

You aren't resisting anything you fucking delusional retard. You're proposing helping your enemy grow more powerful. You're helping your enemy beat you and reducing the chances that you will ever win back control of your country in the future. That isn't resistance that's just suicidal retardation.

trying to do what lega norde managed to do is resistence , you snivelling, spineless worm. looking for an excuse to romanticise rolling over and helping your enemy fuck you and take away your power.

>It's a dog eat dog world and I have bigger teeth than you.
ordinarily I'd think I was being trolled by someone larping because no one could be so cringe and lacking in self awareness but having talked to accelerationists you really are this pathetic.

You should kill yourself you passive, defeatist little cuck.