How were you disciplined growing up Jow Forums?
Did it change as you aged?
I've been thinking about what is the best way to do with with kids. Physical violence? Medication? Talks? Time out (isolation)? Chores? Withholding positives (food/internet)? Does any of it even matter or are children hardwired to misbehave/develop disorder conduct from birth?
Child Discipline
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All of the above except medication
>How were you disciplined growing up Jow Forums?
cages and promethazine
>Did it change as you aged?
I figured out how to remove the window bars when I was twelve. I ran for three hours.
>Physical violence?
only for slow kids.
>Medication?
fuck off druggo. use healthy food to make healthy kids. junk food makes spazzes. input=>output
>Talks?
only for smart kids, slow kids get nature walks and days at the park with the dog. even if they're failures you can still spend time with them
>Time out
never.
>Chores
they shouldn't think of them as "chores" actually don't give it a general name. the concept should be that a home needs to be maintained occasionally. don't push them but don't let them get sloppy.
>Withholding positives (food/internet)?
welll.... it does make them smarter. they always find ways around your rules.
>Does any of it even matter or are children hardwired to misbehave/develop disorder conduct from birth?
I have boong genes and I got a vasectomy at 30. I absolutely agree with this statement - bad genes = bad babbies.
Striking a child is subhuman behavior. It’s encouraged in the Old Testament for the same reason circumcision is. Brutalize young boys, turn them into traumatized and emotionally blunted slave warriors.
I don't think there is a "best way" that applies to all children, effective discipline is going to vary depending on their personality.
>don't push them but don't let them get sloppy.
I know this sounds ridiculous but here's an example: your child leaves clothes on the floor
solution: it becomes inevitable that a day comes where something goes missing. politely remind your child that clothes in the draw are worth more than the ones on the floor!
another example: buying your child plastic toys and iProducts
solution: nature & outdoors. Give them fish to maintain, ideally: frogs. other hobbies for kids include maintaining your garden or cooking your meals. don't let that investment go to spoil!
In my opinion, spanking or a light slap on the hand is a decent way to keep young kids (think 3 to 5ish) from doing things that would seriously injure them, if telling them isn't working. Like trying to run out in the road, touch a hot stove burner, etc.
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Hitting children “works” to stop unwanted behaviors. in the same way cutting off your hand cures a hangnail. It’s a pretty retarded action to take. How about talk to your children and give them the chance to learn to reason, express themselves, form sentences, explain their feelings , etc.
How about treating your child like a human being instead of like a fucking. Dog who piddled. Don’t be surprised f they treat you a ccordingly
>Striking a child is subhuman behavior.
This. Anyone hitting their child to discipline them is a fucking ape.
Let your child touch the stove and exprience the pain. Mind them. Supervise hem. They’re children you retard you’re supposed to watch them. Fucking idiot
>how to raise a millennial
I was a third born (white). I learned myself.
Your children are your karma. Their behaviour reflects yours. They learn not from words but by your example.
Avoid misconduct in thought speech and deed. For example never raise your voice in anger.
Millennials were totally negligected and raised by media and school system
not really
Don't spanky the children....
You beat them..
Spanking is for monkeys!
You can discipline someone without hitting them. How much of nigger are you that you can't figure that out?
Everyone claims they spank their child only while totally peel headed and never in anger. Lmfao what fuckin liars . I see parents hit their kids in public, always they yell and scream and terrorize the kid. You are NOT just creating physical pain stimulus when u spank. You are creating dread , anxiety, fear, it’s fucking every form of abuse. You are their guardian but you choose to become their abuser
I don't know if you've interacted much with 3-year-olds, but they don't always respond well to reason.
>let your toddler get 3rd degree burns because they don't understand what "hot" means yet.
Nah.
Whwnever i fucked up i was spanked. It was kind of like a smack to the wrist but less hard but at least I learned. After I got older I had gotten the restrictive type of discipline. (I.e. No playing until you do this)
I was a nanny for a few years with a few different families, I eventually found one of the best ways to discipline children is to stage mock executions with their stuffed toys whenever they got too out of line. Their behavior improved markedly and it became alot easier to educate them. The only flaw I found is that they became socially withdrawn from other children.
NO STAIRS MATCH, REY MYSTERIO GET THE FUCK OFF THE TABLE
You can tell and supervise them all you want. Most wont understand until they burn themselves.
Absolutely agree, cant believe that these childless people see the idea of giving a child a slap is so barbaric. It taught me right from wrong and the bounds of curiosity
Your dad made you suck his dick didn't he.
Yes and? The nervous system will jerk the hand back and he won’t touch it again. No need to beat your kid like a ducking savage ape
Medicating your children's brain will only make em more fucked up like lil xan for example
Christ your a nut, suprised they let you near children desu
The nervous system will jerk the hand back are you fucking retarded? Do you leave your hands on hot surfaces ? Holy shit you might actually be retarded
I'd rather avoid the hospital bill, thanks
Maybe because you don’t give them a chance to reason because you’re too busy hitting them like a subhuman. Ayrans don’t hit their kids full stop
Wow. You’re actually retarded . Obviously you were hit too many times as a cxhild and it affected Brain development
>hospital bill
Subhuman
Why is a burnt hand better than a slapped one? A light slap provides the same reaction (ow, I shouldn't do that) but doesn't leave lasting damage.
T. Parent of ass hole kids
Ya know...When I look at that pic, I can't help but think that they would actually be happier hanging out in some jungle village somewhere.
Why does the civilized world think that it has to save blacks?
Send 'em home and leave them alone.
bruh if you take your kid to the ER because they burned themselves in a square centimeter of skin, you are legit retarded and are raising pussies
Reminder that striking what you love is not compassionate and has been consistently proven to be ineffective when raising children.
Positive reinforcement has always been the best method. What modern parents fail to realize is that children are, in every practical sense, mentally handicapped humans. They’re not little assholes trying to sneakily break the rules behind your back, they are instinctively curious, learning children who haven’t developed even half the brain mass of a fully developed adult. By the time they’ve developed the brain power they need to disobey you, you’ve already failed badly in that they do not heed your words as wisdom, but as a sort of anti-fun restraint.
Don’t hit your kids, Jow Forums. That’s how you get niggers, psychopaths, and a desperate desire to bond with daddy government. Love your kids instead of solving your problems like a gorilla.
Wtf I love ass hole kids now!
You just realized that now?
If you don't beat the shit out of your kids, you're a cucked liberal faggot.
T. Buzzfeed parent
I find killing them as soon as they're out of the womb a viable option
I was beaten, often. Didn't help. Made me worse, and more angry. I've been in several fights during my short time as an adult. I just can't take any disrespect without getting physical. I'm lucky I'm not in jail, and have won the fights. I'm not trained or anything, so someone is bound to fuck me up sooner or later. I also worry about getting shot but I just can't fucking control myself. I blame a lot of that on my upbringing. Weed helps keep me calm and so does my gf, but it's a struggle. It's the main reason I don't go out socially very often.
Maybe it was the beatings, or maybe I'm just retarded. You be the judge. Hope that helps.
T. Melanin enriched individual
I got spanked, slapped, the wooden spoon, all that good shit. Would absolutely do it to my own kids to discipline them.
the kid will just do what you don't want it to when you're away from home. Until it learns from experience or trough reason no amount of beatings will stop it. Also the reflex will save it from any major burns
I was beaten with a sock full of butter and locked in a small box which was in my closet.
Violent behavior in an adult can almost always be traced back to violence in their childhood. Good luck, user. You’ll do better than your parents.
I’m sorry you had dogshit parents. Consider suicide before you have children though.
>niggers do 0 parenting
>niglets have horrendous behavior
If you don't spank your kids they become just like niggers
>dogshit parents
Their only shitty aspects were that they were potheads, other than that they raised us damn well
it's... it's true
>I don't care that my kids are little shits that everyone hates!
I'm sorry your parent didn't love you enough to properly discipline you
I was spanked as a child. Only happened a handful of times, but was seriously good at correcting bad behaviour. Once was for shouting at my parents that I hated them, a spanking taught me that you shouldn't let your emotions boil over like that and that you shouldn't hate your family. So as a corrective measure it's pretty good, but you have to make sure the kid recognizes why the violence has escalated. If it's not clear why to them, like it's something they've done before or could do later where the only difference was the level of your own emotional reaction, then you shouldn't spank/beat them.
As for what really messed me up as a child, it wasn't physical. When I was super young (maybe 4) my mom caught my cousin and I playing doctor and flipped right the fuck out, emotionally scarring me from female intimacy situations which I'm still working to overcome (I'm almost 40 now).
>when you're away from home
You don't leave kids home alone before they're old enough to use reason. By the time they're home without me, they'll know why they shouldn't touch the burner or run in front of traffic. If your kid is already old enough to understand these things, you shouldn't be using physical cues to make them stop.
The amount of pussies in this thread is astounding. What kind of fucking soft milksops are you? I thought this place was filled with ultra-right wing traditionalists ready to fight the race war. A whole army of you little boys would be BTFO by a small gang of five niggers without a weapon between them.
Every single one of you is weak. Maybe if mummy had clipped you round the ear more often you would have turned out better.
>I was spanked as a child. Only happened a handful of times, but was seriously good at correcting bad behaviour.
Look a good leaf post.
Niggers also dont have fathers to guide them. Funny thing innit
Do a quick google search on the effectiveness of spanking. If you did that alone you wouldnt be sitting on this thread saying such stupid things.
This is called normalizing violence against children. I’ll remind you that children are the only population in the western world that isn’t protected from assault and battery.
You're not wrong. A lot of kids we're ruined by nu parents
>I thought this place was filled with ultra-right wing traditionalists ready to fight the race war
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Also
>beatings
A light smack on the hand or butt isn't a beating.
>Do a quick google search on the effectiveness of spanking. If you did that alone you wouldnt be sitting on this thread saying such stupid things.
>muh study on iq that doesnt control for race and doesn't really distinguish between spanking and beating
yea fuck off nigger faggot. You're raising shit kids and it's your own fault
What is the literal point of this hole then
Be like a responsible Texas judge
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>coping because his parents hit him
Think of all the other stupid shit your boomer parents did.
There is no one who is an “expert on raising kids”. One can make a pretty solid argument the shit we are in today was because a generation actually trusted a guy named Dr Spock.
Have you considered therapy? You seem to be self-aware enough to recognize that the anger is something that puts you in situations you'd rather not be in. A therapist might be able to help you expand that awareness to being able to handle perceived disrespect as not a slight against you but an indicator of the person you're dealing with.
I don't know. All I know is we're all here till we die.
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hi stefan
>observe how I acted
>observe how kids who never get touched act
not that hard nigger. It's painfully obvious when there's no discipline
Based and ISISpilled
>study on IQ
No, you fuckin mouthbreather, years of long studies that guage agreeability in children in relation to their parents based on their upbringing. But it’s fine, I didn’t expect you would have the attention span to read through a sliver of any of it anyways.
> I thought this place was filled with ultra-right wing traditionalists ready to fight the race war.
I am an ultra-right wing traditionalist catholic and I still wouldn't hit my kids you faggot.
>implying the only discipline is physical
Little kids are pretty easy. You keep them at your side at all times or corral them in a pen for a while when they're too young to understand you. When they're old enough you just constantly talk to them and explain what you're doing and why and how. They naturally adore their parents and want to learn, you just leverage that where you can into good manners and safety.
Even if you are in a different room nothing stops them from touching the oven. Instead of pain consider using fear.
>touch something hot
>get burned badly
>run in front of traffic
>die
If they are white they will understand. Do this for all the stuff they shouldn't do and eventually they will break a rule. When they do they will see you were right for this so probably the rest of the things too. When they do you spank them as a punishment not before
If my kid is about to do something really fucking dangerous I'll stop that from happening by any means, even if those means inflict a lesser and temporary form of physical injury to my child. But if they are behaving like a little cunt I'll opt for the non-violent approach and use my adult intellectual capacity and creativity to out-wit a child. Violence as discipline is the lazy approach favored by unintelligent adults. Kids are dumb. Even smart kids are dumb. If you can't control a child without violence, you shouldn't have been allowed to breed.
>, you fuckin mouthbreather, years of long studies that guage agreeability in children in relation to their parents based on their upbringing
>that still don't control for race, distinguish between beating and spanking
>STOP INSULTING MUH NU SCIENCE
Obviously not. But it should never be off the table completely
I was yelled at and kicked out of the house often. Not really anything physical. I remember falling and breaking a window and sent to live with other relatives for a month. "If you want to act like a nigger like your mom, you can get the fuck out of my house."
You stupid fucking nigger. Children are not known for being reasonable. But they certainly understand the sting of a nice slap to the butt. Actually beating up your child is abhorrent, but spanking is just fine, and often necessary. A little bit of spanking early on can prevent a lot of grief later on.
Welp, at least your parent didn't hit you, THAT WOULD BE BARBARIC!
Do you realize that you’re only implying that parenting without physical punishment is consistently better regardless of race? You might have, if you read a single study.
It’s also interesting that statistics are only good when Jow Forums deens it convenient. In this case, convenience is physically abusing a human half your size and without the reasoning of a normal adult.
Imagine hitting your dog when it does something you don’t like. Imagine treating your dog better than you treat your own childrrn.
Thank you for your response.
When I was growing up my parents believed in corporeal punishment. So did my schools. The school FUCKING sucked though because they had a zero-tolerance policy, therefore everyone that got into trouble was punished no matter who "started it." I was the borderline-spectrum kid that got bullied for fun on the playground so I'd always get into defensive fights. You'd get sent to the Principal's Office and have to wait outside next to the closed door in the Secretary's lounge on this leather bench and listen to the "THWACK" sounds of this broke-off hockey stick being used coupled with the crying and screams of the kids ahead you that were being "taken care of". I distinctly remember they had this fish aquarium directly in front of the bench and watching the relaxing fish while feeling the impending dread and fear as my turn got closer. The sound of filtered water running mixed with intermittent striking sounds and wailing was extremely dissonant and unsettling like claps of thunder. They made you pull your pants down and lean over for and you'd have to talk about it first for like 10 minutes (what seemed like an eternity to my child self) with the Principal before he'd finally reveal how many lashings you were getting. I never knew if anything you said about why you were in trouble had any bearing on the number of licks you got.
My mother did most of the punishment at home. She'd usually use a tree branch or a fly-swatter to welt my legs. My dad RARELY ever physically disciplined me, but I guess because of lack of experience when he did he'd use his belt and would NOT control his strength. I was extremely afraid of him doing it. In retrospect, I don't think any of it mattered. I've lived a straight-edge life but I attribute that to having no friends growing up to get into trouble with and being pacified by the internet/games. I don't think I'd use physical punishment on any children at this point.
That logic only works if you're consistent in it. You can't reason with a child like you can't reason with a senile old man. When your geriatric father says a cuss word, you're well within your rights to pull him over your knee and discipline him.
As stated earlier, I said it should be used to prevent actions that could seriously injure the child *if* you've already told them not to do the thing and they continue trying to anyway. I agree with you, though I don't believe it should be used as a general punishment for disobedience...only in dangerous situations. Also, young children generally don't understand what it means to be "burnt" or "die".
A dog is to dumb to connect the discipline to the action, a child is not.
slapped punched spanked all the time nickname s stupid and puke, ridiculed for everything real and made up. Seriously lucky did not become a serial killer.
You aren't wrong. It's clear who was raised by video games and television in this thread. They were never spanked because you were braindead in front of a television most of their childhood. These are the same people who probably need a gadget to open their bottle of Soi for them. Limp wristed faggots.
>still defending studies with horrifically confounding variables
How sad. I feel sorry for your kids.
I was a super high energy, smart, kinda agressive kid, pretty sure I had high as fuck test naturally. But it bothered my parents so they let me play video games all day because I was at least sitting quietly in one place when I did. But over a decade of hours and hours in front of my PC slowly drained my energy and outgoingness. It ruined my posture, turned me into a basedboy, and gaming addiction made me drop out of uni.
Im kinda bitter towards them, they sacrificed raising me properly because they wanted peace and quiet. Over the last 3 years Ive been working my ass off to fix what was ruined.
My gay stupid parents ruined me
>only in dangerous situations.
I would add it could be used as the nuclear option for bad behavior as well
Yeah. This is not true in the slightest. Have you heard of learned behavior? Dogs react to stimuli, whether it’s dog treats or a kick. Ever wonder why rescued dogs are hostile and afraid to come out if their cages?