Why are so many women writing about rough sex?

wow, it's almost like i'm really seeing it

A past girlfriend informed me that most women harbor fantasies of being "raped", that is (at least in her case) dominated by a man their presence drives mad with desire to the point where he disregards rules and laws and his better self. I was then very innocent and well-behaved, so it came as somewhat a shock; in time I realised that this has a lot to do with the tendency of Western men to define themselves mostly through their self-restraint, principle, levelheadedness for lack of a better word. They're used to men generally treating them more or less as equals but desire a special one who stands out and commands the respect/fear of even other men, which in the case of the civilised West will be outlaws and other scum due to simply lacking the socialisation necessary to be "tame" in the first place. This has to do with the idea of the woman in question "failing as a woman" by not being able to manipulate a man through his attraction to her, but as I was since able to determine it needs not even be physical domination. Anything that allows her to feel as if a superior individual devotes entirely to the satisfaction of her urges or removal of her (often minimal) responsibility will fit the bill.

In Middle Eastern and African women the trend is often more or less reversed, hence the fetishisation of White Men among them. As they're usually treated like shit they read much into the notion of a caring man. The degree to which this is nature or nurture, respectively, can be debated, but as a general rule of thumb you get women by not being ruled over. It's basically the old confidence thing, except cranked up to extreme degrees by the constant demonisation of natural urges in the modern post-Sexual Revolution West. An institutionalised shit test, as it were, that many of our men are failing for the simple reason that they don't ever learn to self-assert for lack of role models, but come up under single mothers and get shamed for just existing all the time.

Basically lots of women prefer the man to be dominant in bed. They fantasize about losing control to a dominant man. Nothing wrong with fantasy and consenting adults can and do explore these.

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This is a great writeup
Every girlfriend I've had had some sort of rape fantasy

My first ex would fantasize about getting kidnapped and tied up in a dungeon to be used by a dominant warlord, it was really explicit

It's about what you mentioned, driving a man mad with lust, but I also think it's about letting go of control
Women hate responsibility, nothing turns them more off than having to stand for their own actions
Being "raped" basically removes all burden of responsibility from her, she's 100% in the hands of the strong, dominant man.
Female rape fantasy is also about letting go, submitting to a man strong enough to deserve it

because there's not enough of us out there giving it to them, most of our male peer group are a bunch of sissy virtue signalling white knights and nobody likes that

>new generation
>exploring
This is a brand new thing lads, caused by the #metoo movement.

Until women explain how they can be positive leaders when the thought of getting tied up and ass-fucked on their enemy's desk on planet-wide television, they are unfit to be Executive leaders of any type.

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What do you think happens to the evolution of the human brain when thousands of your ancestors were conceived by rape and had to deal with rape their entire life potentially.

It's only logical that the brain would adapt so rape became less traumatic.

What can be done? It is easy. Women are largely unfixable. But any given women can and in fact wants to be conquered by the Right Man for the job. Being consistently independent of social controls such as women themselves are knowingly or not-so-knowingly defined and ruled by for all of their lives is how you increase the likelihood of being that Right Man. Women can notice the shortcomings of their societies, but as with everything perceive this by emotion sooner than by logic. Where a continuous input of misery is presented to them (horrible corruption, widespread crime, constant abuse excesses on part of authority figures etc) this gives rise to unrealised depressions of every kind and the desire to be protected by and popular among the winning group. In reaching a woman you must thus not necessarily have arguments against the usual or ways to manipulate the system, but simply be different from the established norm in such a way as to stand out and be left alone without being isolated. You are not the intellectual dissident, you are a one-man-society in your own right that she might get to feature in. Unlearn preemptive self-judgment and re-establish an affinity to your own natural male impulses. Stop self-doubt and stop wanting to lift others up. Where you act selflessly there you act selflessly without going on at length about it. Where you act honorably there you act honorably because you want to, not because you want others to call you honorable. Ideally, speak as little as necessary and don't make excuses - decide who you want to be and be that without apology or explanation. All else will come in time.

Because they are ugly and no one wants them

women have a regular butt that stinks in a regular way

AND A WEIRD TINY HAIRY BUTT THAT STINKS IN A YUMMIER WAY

>most bought book of women "50 shades of rape"
>women wanna RULE
Nah, they may have been brainwashed by the media that they should be "in charge" but their biology is inherently to be submissive.

Saved

Member when that retarded bitch called in to (((Howard Stern))) because she lost power and kept demanding someone rape her?
>I member.
Was she just ahead of her time, or was it (((them))) all along?

>So many young women are writing about rough sex because of MeToo that shine a light on the abuse behavior men has committed against women for decades
>Therefor, it's mens fault

That was easy :)

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ya cant tell here but shed be cute if she didnt try to look like a lard troll.

Rape is only bad if the woman finds the man ''unattractive'', otherwise women fantasise about being forcefucked into submission by an alpha chad. Stockholm syndrome happens when the woman finds the abuser ''attractive'' and is then confused about what she really wants.

Also statistically 9/10 people enjoy gang rape. So it has to be a good thing, right?

Nice digits, wish someone would post it. I don't have it saved.

can confirm this.

my current gf is with me because i ironically made a joke about raping her.

>Rape is only bad if the woman finds the man ''unattractive''
Pretty sure this isnt true, atleast not if youre talking physical attractiveness

How do i know?
There have been plenty of high-profile cases where good looking guys have been accused of rape
Some was an international football star, cant remember the name but i could google
There was also a case in Sweden where two guys got convicted of a gang rape which they contested saying the girl was in on it but changed her mind afterwards. Both guys were decently attractive

Females are strange, they sometimes just want to fuck up an attractive guys life because of spite

There’s also a difference between rough sex and rape.

>after me too

Go fuck yourself, whore. Nice excuse, that shitty book about a millionaire Chad fucking a whore rough was successful way before that. Own your depravation, meme gender.

It's almost like a freudian slip

>Some was an international football star, cant remember the name but i could google

You're comparing someone wealthy & famous with someone who just appeared out of nowhere and has to be reconstructed via description. Ofcourse women would claim rape on someone famous, but if the guy was a nobody and good looking going on a rape spree, the women wouldn't mind. Just look at Ted Bundy, he got THOUSANDS of love letters from horny women, who couldn't stop fantasising about being forcefucked and even killed by him. Even otherwise beta males who get some fame through crime, instantly get recognised by women.

>In Middle Eastern and African women the trend is often more or less reversed
no, they want to be raped too. it's the same for all women.

Maybe i was unclear
Some women might have these fantasies or perhaps i should say have the guts to act on them.
Alot of other women would just fuck a guy over out of spite

>Even otherwise beta males who get some fame through crime, instantly get recognised by women.
Something ill never understand
Women are strange because they dont seem to know what the fuck they want

>here was also a case in Sweden where two guys got convicted of a gang rape which they contested saying the girl was in on it but changed her mind afterwards. Both guys were decently attractive

You're literally describing how a woman who wanted a threesome didn't get what she wanted, and through disappointment claimed rape. They didn't even want to rape her, maybe that was the problem. Her wanting two cocks at the same time already shows you how much mileage she has gone through. If you can't please a woman she will hate you.

She looks like she wants a cock forced in her ass.....but she's just not sure....

They want to be raped. By white men. But all they ever get are subhumans.

>Some women might have these fantasies

user, there are no exceptions. Biology and Moral values do not go hand to hand. The only reason the women hide their degeneracy is that otherwise they would be called whores.

Women act as how biology tells them to, while men can think and act upon logic.

You have to be a real swede to take everything in this post at face value. Women will use rape allegations as a cudgel when they stand to benefit from them, even if consensual sex was all that occurred. The average women gets all wet over being physically dominated.

They want 50 shades of grey. Not 50 shades of shit.

Every day tit gets harder to the real feminists from Millie Tant

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For the same reason they are interested in the genres of porn that they are. Look into the viewer statistics - The main viewerbase of violent porn is women.

You are right on the first point.

Conquered. Not raped, conquered. "Rape" as a word originates with the idea of taking someone else's woman, the root is cognate with that for "robbery" (compare that famous book, "The Rape of the Lock", where the titular lock isn't fucked, but stolen), and it is a crime for the simple reason that it used to apply to defiling a (presumptive) virgin in her father's care or bride-to-be promised to her groom, that is, undoing her value for arranged marriage. As you won't claim that today's Western women are usually groomed and kept pure for marriage, this line of reasoning is effectively antiquated. Without the impulse to reward peaceful, intelligent males with guaranteed poon for their contributions there is no reason to act like you owe anyone restraint beyond maybe the very most basic courtesy given co-workers or neighbors or the like.

So no, the correct term is "conquered". Discovered, claimed, defended and controlled toward their own good in short order. This is in fact true for all women. Nevertheless the race-mixing statistics as I recall them clearly show the fetish for the nice white boy simply because of all that talk about how whites control and dominate the other races, with the notion of one "settling" for a jungle honey wetting every hole South of her equator all throughout holes toward the Equator. So get your mind out of the gutter and enjoy having your pick, even and especially if you won't take it. You otherwise just sound bitter and uninformed, as after all you've not possibly -met- all women.

>If you can't please a woman she will hate you.
I suppose we agree then

>The only reason the women hide their degeneracy is that otherwise they would be called whores.
Fair enough, although its women who mostly call other women whores if they sleep around. Men in most cases like that (despite what pol thinks)

>The average women gets all wet over being physically dominated.
Maybe by someone she already was attracted to
Problem is if she doesnt like you then youre gonna be facing rape charges
and no, simply being physically attractive isnt enough. You can still fail with women if youre psysically attractive because she just simply doesnt like you

Porn has a big influence on your behavior. What is infuriating is these stupid bitches support the porn, and then they want to string men up for acting it out.

You can't have it both ways.

Liberals want to teach kids about sex from kindergarten, rather than cracking down on porn. There's a reason for this

The Sexual Revolution and Children
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have you read the book? The book is about an ugly social awkward virgin that secures herself a billionaire who is emotional dependent on her and marries her without prenup and lives in a monogamous relationship.
The core female fantasy is taming a wealthy, masculine alpha-male who's fully devoted to her.

>The average women gets all wet over being physically dominated.
what's the best way to go about this? choking her (lightly), spanking her, telling her to get on her knees, or what exactly?

The media vomits degenerate filth and lies day after day. The middle class proper is a sewer of lust, groupthink, and greed

Zardoz was right about everything.

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This is high quality post.

They want to keep their options open for after. You can't expect a woman to know whether you're a keeper before sex. So this way she gets to decide after.
>I like this guy he can continue giving me brutal sex
>This guy's a knob, 999, "hello police I'd like to report a rape. I've got marks and everything."

Every time I have sex with my gf, I just pretend I’m raping her. She loves it

Thank you for the praise, and your own write-up puts it very well as well if I may say so. Women realise better than anyone that they're heavily emotional, and as a result can pick up on emotions and urges much better than most men; they are far more often passively weak than actively evil, and the notion of that weakness making them evil does both sexes a disservice. As such the one who saves her from the burden of needing to present some image to the world, especially when making this clear by correctly determining the raging passions that that image must oppose (and -sating- them), is one whom she devotes to with the intensity of a drowning man grabbing a sturdy branch. It's also why she sees through pretenses of power or intellect or independence easily and will be turned off by a faker with terrifying certainty, to the point of seeming unreasonable to men who engage in such without the ability to play it as entertainment for her.

Thanks, I hope it serves you well.

rough sex =/= rape, you can definitely rape someone softly especially if they're small and weak.

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>most women harbor fantasies of being "raped"
another thing that shows women are living paradoxes... you know how they always say they need a lot of foreplay to enjoy sex, and how they want a slow buildup to the actual act of penetration? well guess what, "rape" doesn't involve any of that shit. or do they harbor some long drawn out fantasy of rape with penetration after 20 mins of buildup?

>I just pretend I’m raping her.
how though? teach me.

Top quality posts, Hans, although I disagree with
>Ideally, speak as little as necessary and don't make excuses
While it's better to be silent than talk too much, if you have the gift of gab there is no tool more powerful.

Dude, just be rough with her...how can you not?
If you want her in bed, pick her up and carry her there. If you want her to flip over, flip her over.
Pin her down, pull her closer, hold her wrists above her head in a tight grip

Its not rocket science man

Women rights was a mistake.

well i already do that stuff, it feels boring

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Definitely a Jew commie thing... for example, Russia porn is basically violent rape snuff

Well sex isnt all its cracked up to be, if it wasnt for the biological urge i doubt alot of guys would bother

If youre already doing it then spice it up, its easy to escalate if youre already being rough
Get a rope or handcuffs or whatever and tie her up

They want to be raped by a hot guy that makes them wet by the mere scent of them. You don't get women at all huh

They're not worried about betas raping them, they are worried about losing beta bux, because there worthless asses would starve.

Clearly because they're not getting any and are whores.

I can give you advice from a woman's perspective because my boyfriend use to be a bit rough sometimes.
- Grab her hair and navigate her head by pulling her hair
- Pull her ponytail while dogging her from behind
- hold down her arms on the matress
- sit down on her face and facefuck her
- undress her quick and without tenderness
- grab her throat during sex

>have you read the book
Fuck no.
I agree with your assessment though. Peterstein might have fucked up on a lot of things, but he got the archetype of the female fantasy right: the beast she wants to tame.
But it's still a "beast". As in alpha = authoritative and dominant.

A real man knows that what women crave is a heavy load of cum dripping down her inner thigh. Women are incapable of happiness without a man. They need regular hormone dumps in the form of pic related.

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Note we had been an item for some time when she explained that to me. What happened was that I met her through a lady friend while we chatted over ICQ and I drunkenly started to make sexually-charged puns out of everything we talked about which the soon-gf found endearing. A date was arranged in short order. The buildup was long. On the first date I never so much as tried to kiss her which she noticed, and in explaining that I usually don't go all out the way I had she came to see me as a kind of mystery because she usually didn't get to know somebody's "darker side" before their usual self. We regularly attended her church's youth group activities together after. We also made a regular occasion of taking tea and me massaging her thereafter. One evening she stayed with me instead of driving home, citing a headache. I took care of her, we snuggled up together as we went to sleep and when I woke she sleep-caressed my member with one hand. I woke her, she literally just went "Oh shit" and I said "It's fine, it's okay - I have a few rubbers, how about it?" She thought about it for a second and said "yes", and that sorted that.

Over time she came to view me as somewhat a disappointment, hence the "rape" talk, and I learned to be more spontaneous so as to cure that notion. The high point being when we went shopping together. She picked a tight blue dress for herself that I liked on her, and when we got home and she put her bags down I just picked her up, pulled her undies aside and got going. That initiated a few weeks of unadulterated bliss before we eventually fell apart regardless, ironically because she decided to re-friendzone me out of depression-related issues and I couldn't handle the sudden rejection. Last time we met each other, years later, she still summed me up as having been "almost too human", and I've done away with my less assertive ways for good since then.

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>archive.fo/yx3TV
Jesus...

Another short haired whore walking around like a cunt that wants every nigger to rape them. Then complains to people like me for them being a dumb nigger fucked whore aka nigger lovers.

Stupid cunt.

ok cool thanks

>There is a difference between fantasy and real wish.
I hear women say this all the time, but when I ask if that means its ok for a man to fantasize about raping, their programming glitches out.

The foreplay thing is for lovers. It is the complete dedication to her on the part of a man she already has become close to. After the initial "rape", the seduction/conquest, there is buildup toward a deeper bond in which a more thorough exploration of one another's sensuality is vital to ease her out of the on-edge mating market mind and into the warmer, welcoming girlfriend mind. It is you confirming and deepening your connection and fostering what may eventually be genuine affection rather than the attraction that led your paths to cross that way to begin with. Hence why the stories are often about our conflicted heroine surrendering more and more to the wild man who becomes tame, starting to take an interest in what weaknesses trouble him and in turn discovering the Count inside the Dracula as he starts to show actual compassion and govern that which he took in triumph.

Just pretend you’re fucking a sex doll. Women love to be degraded and put up as a sex object. Pull her hair when you’re fucking her, bite her (not hard obviously, but enough to get a response), grab her wrists and don’t let go, grab her neck and hold her in place, slap her ass. If you don’t know what you’re doing at least act like you know what you’re doing. If you’ve ever seen a snake attack a rat and curl around it - emulate that.

Seconding all of these except you should probably ask before doing any breathplay.
Also, ripping cheap tights out of horny desperation is really hot, so I recommend that too. It’s also hot when my boyfriend is still clothed when fucking me. Anything that shows how desperately you want to fuck and need to take control of her body is what I recommend.

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This is entirely correct. All of the erotic literature I have read and gotten off to is exactly this process. I cant explain why it drives me insane, but I guess that’s how females work.

I know that anti-Semites don't bother to read anything apart from comic books since reading is a Jewish trick.

But there're some quotes.

>Recently I have found myself wondering about the prevalence of rough sex in new fiction written by women.

>I found some of the scenes so unpalatable that I had to keep putting it down.

>More often than not it is women writing it and female characters desiring it, and frequently those characters are using sadomasochistic sex as a way of processing their own trauma.

In other words the article isn't about
>oh god please rape me!

But rather about
>women writers try to make shekels via chick and the metoo bandwagon

>cheap tights
This is how I know you're actually a femanon.

*chick lit

I don’t have experience, but I read in models by mark manson that he suggests women want to have sex with a man who can not contain his desire to be with her, in short women desire being desired. If you’re attractive to her.

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You're correct. Though then one might claim that the use of that gift where one has it is absolutely necessary - you live so as to live, and whatever the best in you is should be key to the man you are.

muh anti-semitism
You again. Fuck off back to whatever hole you crawled out from and take your anti-indoeuropeanism with you.

>and whatever the best in you is should be key to the man you are.
>be the village rapist
>singletearofhappines.jpg

it's time to kill everyone. it was a nice experiment but it failed. it's time to kill everyone.

>acting like you're above everyone else in the world because you have a differing opinion
>on an anonymous imageboard
shut the fuck up nigger and lurk moar

Women were a mistake.

>world is so fucked up people equate rough sex with rape

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Would that we weren't thousandmiles apart, for I've a feeling we could write true art together. Always a pleasure to gain honest female input, really; some of the lads on here suffer so much from not being able to feel at ease with the fairer sex, and the US display some of the most saddening cases. Thank you for that, I mean it.

Dated a blue hair feminist once. She liked being choked and fucked hard from behind.

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>m'lady - The post

>"So unpalatable that I had to keep putting it down."

Which means the nasty whore kept picking the book back up.

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