Reminder that the life support will be pulled on Wednesday, November 4, 2020

I just doesn't come up often. Out of the 114 justices we've had, the longest term was 36 years. My father has worked at the same electrical company longer than that.

Thanks man here’s a well deserved (you)

If your father wanted to shock himself to death, that's at least on him. This bitch is making life long decisions that affect everybody in the nation when she may not even be awake or conscious.

What if she’s unresponsive? I’m sure there HAS to be a limit

Look at age vs pulmonary reserve and then consider she has lost 25% of the pulmonary reserve she had in November.

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>How long CAN you actually keep someone on life support? There’s gotta be serious medical issues with just laying down for even a few months straight

If you want to keep the heart beating alone and kick the can as long as possible there's actually quite a bit they can do. If she's under and on life support at this point she'll never walk out of it, but as long as they can keep her organs going they can probably get at least another year...which is all they're looking for to try to do to Trump what the GOP did to Obama and Merrick Garland.

Her clerks and cronies will make decisions in absentia until someone demands to see her. Even then, if she's found unconscious they'll probably argue that she "could recover" and should thus be a justice until she dies.

Sad part is that if she is unconscious and on life support what they're doing is what she'd want anyway. She's been fighting kicking and screaming since 2016 just to stay alive and active, it's very clear that if Hillary had won she would have been happy to celebrate her retirement with Madame President.

If she doesn’t show up for work for 2 years it’ll energize the non-Dem base to vote for Trump. How have the Democrats not learned that the majority of the country is sick of their childish bullshit?

why wait until the Dems lose the House and a few more senate seats?

>RBG on life support
>Liberals: LOL life tenure bitch! Yaaaasss queen slay
>RBG dies and Trump replaces with Amy Coney Barrett who will serve at least 38 years if she lives as long as RBG
>Liberals: REEEEEE SC JUSTICES NEED TWO YEAR MAXIMUM TERMS NOOOOWWWWW

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Won’t work. Cocaine Mitch is under no obligation I to observe the “Biden Rule”. He can tell Schumer to pound sand. Which should be a lot of fun.

It is certain that if she had been extubated that picture would be on the front page of The NY Times. So it is clear she is still on the vent. By now she has been trached. Look for them to try to pass a photo of her off with the trach covered by a nice “scarf”.

Yeah but most scotus justices are appointed when they're 50+ or so. You don't roll out of law school and become a scotus judge at 24/25.

36 for your pappy ain't the same as 36 years as a scotus judge.

I think at this point they know that and they're hoping they can either keep her alive or "alive" until it's too close to election day to nominate, or that she'll survive into a new president in 2020 outright.

>I’m sure there HAS to be a limit

Why don't you read the fucking constitution?

Reminder that the constitution sets no limits on the number of SCOTUS judges. Trump COULD nominate another justice

Thanks for the insight medfag

Can a lawfag now answer what happens to Ruths vote while she is unconscious? Can a right of attorney cast a vote for her? Can she vote in abstentia?

That women in a vegetative state who just gave birth to her rape baby has been in a coma since she was three if I remember correctly.

I’m willing to bet this has to be against the law, even unconstitutional. If the dems are actually doing this there should be an investigation

But that woman was breathing spontaneously so not a comparison.

At what point does the Prez or whoever demand proof of life to end this shitshow? Who has the authority to demand this and what are the guidelines? Even if this hag is still alive she's clearly unable to fulfill her duties. Someone in power needs to do their fuckin job.

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Yeah that’s what I’m doing

We could demand representatives push a law for health issues

Technically there isn't. Usually justices have the good grace to retire when they can't work any more or they have something like a heart attack where they just drop dead before they go back to the bench for the next case.

There have been holdouts before but they were in times when someone in RBG's current condition would be dead due to lack of medical tech.

Even if it's happening it'll never be proven. If someone proved she was comatose/terminal/dead they'd pretend it just happened and the swamp would cover up any proof to the contrary.

Caffeine drips and oxygen mask can keep her alive for a LONG time

When I was a surgical intern we had to run a 15 bed ICU for two months. You couldn’t get a senior resident to even come into the room. I am sure things have gotten better in the interval but if you had suggested keeping an 85 year old alive for months on a vent everyone would laugh at you. The risk of pneumonia, mucus plugs, pneumonia, etc. eventually accumulate and your fucked. Maybe you can do better now but there has to be an upper limit. As far as being extubatable IMHO she was marginal at best before the did a lobectomy. Personally, I don’t believe there is a chance of weaning her.

Have YOU?

Would they say this is Scalia was the one who was ill?

McCain was doing this all through this shit all through his term under the excuse of "hiding through flu season." The bitch is dying and they'll pull all the cock sucking stops to make it so. I wouldn't be surprised if they made sure none of the families had POA over her just to make sure they can give her the permission to die.

As I recall the libtards were dancing on Scalia’s grave before the pulled out the first shovel. Which explains why they were so butt blasted over Gorsuch.

Then I guess we’ll just have to wait and see what happens

Can you even keep someone dead a secret?

We’re about to find out bubba, don’t lose hope

Hope you are still here. In my experience in almost a decade of neurosurgery in those cases where the patient is truly brain dead after a couple days you can’t keep their blood pressure up even with an Epi drip so I wouldn’t crush my soul over it. I found it impossible to keep a truly brain dead patient alive for more than 72 hours.

If there’s any record of her being dead, what are the chances of any of that being public record?

I dont know what exact procedures RBG got and how she was before surgery so i cannot make predictions here.
But lung surgery at 85 years is a tough game.
Important thing for her is to breath on her own with no assistance. That is hard to achieve depending on how much lung tissue has been removed. Pretty likely she is trached by now. Anyways, she is just on pneumonia away from hypoxia and brain damage.
But even then she can still be kept alive.
Like i said before. No quality of life but technically alive.
It is actually possible to do that and we are pretty good at it. I've kept a 95 year old woman alive for 6 days after lying in her kitchen for 3 days with a complete occlusion of her left internal carotic artery turning her entire left brain into spaghetti, before pulling the plug. We knew it would end this way and could have let her go the moment we found her but she hasnt written a will, couldnt talk at the moment and her daughter crying and under shock told us to "please dont let my mother die". So we did.
I told her that it was of no use after seeing the brain scan but proceeded anyway just to avoid a possible lawsuit.
(((Lawyers))) ruined medical practice

>mfw my birthday
BASED

And I remember two patients in their 20s who were in prolonged vegetative states, one 6 weeks and another 4 months who both woke up and walked out of the hospital so never give up o young patients. One of those guys stood a .38 round at two feet to the center of his forehead and the bullet came to rest next to the torculus so we left it. He was “doll’s eyes” level with no spontaneous respiration for 4 months. I gave him a ride home the day he was discharged. The other was a kid with a motorcycle accident grade 4 concussion. At 6 weeks he had no spontaneous respiration effort and we were trying to place him when he just woke up and started talking to mom.

I hear you. I did 12 months of pediatric neurosurgery as part of my residency. Been there many times with very young children. THAT can indeed, be sol crushing.

But the official story is she had a left lower lobectomy. That is a lot of alveoli to lose at 85.

This is ridiculous. She's a fucking zombie and the deep state is casting her votes for her. Whoever is responsible for this should be tried for treason.

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Still here
Brain dead as in zero line in EEG is really hard to keep stable, that's true.
You can almost see the body trying to shut down, that's true.
But post-op patients that are unweanable get last a very long time. "Luckily" the underlying disease limits our efforts but even after 6 years on my icu i am still amazed what we can do. I dont always like the outcome but we all fear the (((lawyer)))

It's amazing what young people can come back from. I once had a 24 year old biker with open head trauma, pneumothorax on both sides, lacerated spleen and liver and multiple bone fractures. Guy spent 7 months in the hospital, 3 of that on my icu 1 under sedation and being ventilated. Had pneumonia and pulmonary emboly and what not.
Guy is playing football again today. Not as good as he used to but he keeps going.
If that had been RBG she would have died after a week max.

You guys have to live in fear of (((lawyers)))? I thought that was just a US problem. Thanks for the reply’s, brother.

wait wait wait, so what if say some virus infects all supreme court members and turns them into pernament vegetables, will that mean we will have no supreme court at all until they die 30 years later?
i know burgers are stupid, but surely they aren't THIS stupid

Actually getting slammed in court and losing your loicense is still very rare and you have to fuck up bigly. Most lawsuits dont lead anywhere or get mediated by the board of doctors but it's still an enormous pain in the butt. Lawyers are among the worst people on this planet.
Medicine is stressful enough as it is and we work under a lot of pressure, a lot of it being of an economic nature so we tend to avoid additional stress. If that means turning your beloved grandma in a vegetable, so be it.
Threaten me with a lawyer and i'll do almost anything for you.
It's sad but it's true.

>Threaten me with a lawyer and i'll do almost anything for you
If you were a gynecologist in NY would you abort a 9-mo child? I haven’t heard much on wether doctores are willing to move forward with such procedures unwillingly

Only gynecologists do legal abortions so it doesn’t affect most of us.

There are a very few legit board question type situations that are sticky. Say a woman is 7 months gestation and has a grade I cerebral aneurysm subarachnoid hemorrhage. Or the same woman but it is an AVM instead? Do you let her go into labor? So there are a handful of situations where one really does need to KNOW the answer beforehand.

You'd be surprised. They kept this poor bastard alive in the 90's for 3 months after all of his skin fell off

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My ICU days were decades ago. Maybe Germanbro knows more but I think it is easier to keep someone with Stevens Johnson Syndrome alive than someone who has 90+% of their body burned. I have seen several folks survive serious Steven Johnso’s.

Only for democrat votes

I'm an anaesthesiologist so luckily i dont get confronted with that. What i can tell you is that i would not refuse performing anaesthesia for such a procedure. As far as my fieldnof expertise is concerned, when you are fit enough to get anaesthesia and if you want the procedure i'll do it. I wont interfere with the gynaecologist and his patient.
It may sound like a cheesy cop out but that's the way i handle it. In my last clinic i even did anae. on sexual reassignment surgeries.

Would i do a late term abortion were i a pussy doc? I dont know, probably if the mothers life was in danger or the child was defective. I wouldnt do it for the sole purpose of terminating the pregnancy. The mother had enough time before to do it. I think i would get through with that. I can deny my service for any procedure i dont deem right as long as the patient's life is not threatened.
But i'm not opposed to abortion in general. I'm a left over from the 2012 Ron Paul libertarian influx on this board, so sorry Nazis...

Like I say, I think they are skirting ethics charges right now. Let’s say you are the ICU doctor and the family wants you to keep grandpa alive just two more weeks so they can redeem the homestead. I think you could even get into legal trouble for fraud there.

How? Do you think an impeachment will pass the house? Nothing will happen

To be honest i have never treated a severe burn victim (in a hospital, outside driving ambulance yes) so i dont know. And i've never seen Stephen Johnson's yet. But i imagine the problems are pretty similar given that most of your skin is lacking. So hypothermia, fluid loss, infections etc...
My clinic has a huge neurology/neurosurgery/neuroradiology department so half of our 30 beds are filled with literal vegetables

It's actually not a burn in the conventional sense. The person in question is Hisashi Oiuchi, where he received acute radiation poisoning after a meltdown. All of his chromosomes were obliterated so he could not regenerate cells as a normal human could do. He was literally a pile of broken, decaying meat that the doctors "resurrected" several times.

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And more importantly will the rats who cast fake votes for her be axed

(Here clinics are outpatient facilities, hospitals are for inpatients. You have that Bong way of calling inpatient facilities clinics.). I know this, when I ran my SICU if the Int Med guys called for a bed for Steven Johnson I would have told them they could borrow a bed for the special care nursing but they were gonna have to come take care of the patient. I was known as “The Wall” for Medicine dumps.

I sort of assumed it was SJ which is limited to the surface. What you describe is an exercise in futility. Someone who has that much radiation will have all kinds of organ failure as well. Especially gut death.

If i had a pregnant woman with a SAB i would present her with all the options and let her decide.
If such a shitty constellation happens there are no good outcomes.
Talk it through very thoroughly with her and go with whatever she decides.
An for the love of god, document your conversation and have her sign it

>Here clinics are outpatient facilities, hospitals are for inpatients. You have that Bong way of calling inpatient facilities clinics.
I did not know that. Thanks for the info

I am really good at turfing. Most of my time is spend turfing people away. You get quite creative after a while

IIRC SAH have a good chance of surviving labor, especially if the aneurysm is clipped. AVMs don’t.

I think you use “clinic” for inpatients where we would use the word “ward” to describe different parts of the hospital subdivided by location and specialty.

You have to get good if you want to survive as a resident. Otherwise you get a rep as a pushover and you get buried. Funny since once you go into practice you tend to whore up everything you can get your hands on.

We use hospital (Krankenhaus) and clinic (Klinik) synonymously.
Outpatient facilities are called "Ambulanz" when in a hospital or "Praxis" when it's a non hospital doctors office.
Inside hospitals the different departments are also called clinics but commonly referred to as departments.
Wards are your actual units where your beds are.

And it is also funny because we retain that use of “clinics” when you go from 2nd year to 3rd in Med School. It is called the “Clinical Years” and is referred to as “going to the clinics” but that is literally the ONLY time you will hear it used that way.

Take that bigots!

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Back in the day when all of the doctors did NOT work for the hospital but had “priveledges” (which could be pulled by your peers) so there were NO doctor’s offices in hospitals. So before the 80s very few hospitals had any part of the hospital dedicated to offices for anybody other than hospital administration. So “ward” is still synonymous here even though most hospitals now employee great numbers of doctors and many of them have offices in the building (or a new adjacent Doctor’s CLinic for outpatients near the hospital (like across the street).

I second this.

Regardless, are we going to argue about ethics of keeping RGB alive when you can, legally, kill unborn human beings up to the day they are born.

Besides, I’m sure strings can be pulled to make sure any care providers are completely taken care of.

She is already dead.

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Whether or not you get your tit caught in the wringer here has ore to do with who has a hard on for you. As we discovered with that UVA kid recently. So whoever is involved in keeping her alive will certainly receive the benefit of the Brown Shirt Media and the DNC protection but if there is a hospital administrator who already wants their scalp they COULD get in a serious jam.

How old are you doc?
Enjoying them boomer retirement bux?

You betcha

>RBG SIGHTED IN PUBLIC FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OVER A MONTH
>oh really, surely you took pictures?
>we did, but you can’t see them
What did they mean by this?

65.

Someone got that picture of RGB on her deathbed along with 2 nurses?
The user who posted the photos last message was "help".

He also said she is hidden somewhere in Nevada and they are keepings her alive for as long as they can. She got double
pneumonia as well.

When I started out as an orderly in 1968 there was nothing in ANY hospital BUT wards and an office or two for an administrator and maybe another for their assistant if it was like over 400 beds.

>65
My dad is the same age.
Man, i'd love shitposting with my father on here. But he's too busy spending his boomer buxx on golf and wine...
Mind posting your rarest Boomer Pepe?

really makes you think

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For some reason I don’t save Pepes. No reason, really. All I save is rates I think I might not see again. This is as close as I can come.

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I save rares I think I might not see again so I saved this one.

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A rare pepe indeed.
Heil!

Somehow I have trouble seeing a German playing golf in my mind. I’m sure some do but it can’t be like here.

Sounds almost like your dad is one of us ‘Muricans.

German upper class boomers are pretty snobby. It's the lower class that are like your stereotypical krauts

Looks like we've derailed the thread, boomer doc.
Good job!

Such inspiration.

Stop being comaphobic

Nothing wrong with squeezing a little more life outa something almost dead. LOL.

>be RBG
>go to hospital for "cancer surgery"
>secretly get all major organs replaced with brand new baby organs from little babies that got aborted after they were born
>little baby heart still too small
>can't get off the machine yet because of little baby heart
>so you sit at home, in the dark, waiting for the little baby heart to grow
>wonder why you suddenly crave human blood?

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It was, satan-trips, but the people in question were curious as to what would happen if he was kept alive. I don't know if much was actually observed, aside that human agony can still extend for an unspeakable period.