before I resign to being a lifelong incel. But Jow Forums assures me that the incel ideology is wrong and that anyone can get a gf if they apply themselves, so I want you fuckers to do what you do best and give shitty dating advice. And I'm absolutely clueless about women, so I need it step by step. Even the small details are significant because I really don't know what the fuck to do.
A few things about me: >20 >black >5'10 >3/10 face (4/10 on a good day) >in third year of uni (a pretty highly ranked one) and in engineering >virgin >kissless >very anxious around women (attempting a cold approach would probably result in me becoming a studdering mess) >never been on a date >no female friends >only about two male friends >don't have a cell phone >absolutely pristine hygiene (I even trim my pubes even though no one ever sees them)
unironically get Jow Forums. Go to Jow Forums and in the self improvement general /sig/.
Read some stuff like carnegie's "how to win friends and influence people". or the rational male, cause you seem too focussed on the idea of a gf, and women smell that shit. Also kind of a meme, but watch petersons 12 rules for life lecture and if interested more.
Jonathan Walker
Do you ever go after girls or do you just kind of expect them to come to you?
Being a 3/10 nerd is going to hurt your chances of having girls take initiative, and you'll probably have to lower your standards to girls who are 3/10 or 4/10 themselves.
Nathaniel Anderson
You're fucking retarded if you think women will ever change.
Can people influence us too? Like for example can people influence me to like them. I wonder how that works
Nathan Taylor
Neither. I assume there are some ways to break the ice and slowly warm up to women right? Cold approaching definitely won't work for someone like me.
Hunter Gray
>really young >poor self esteem >anxiety disorder >no cell phone or means of maintaining relationships outside of face to face interactions >no ability to verbally speak to women and have conversations >non-existent social life
When I was your age, a great date was going to the park at night with a girl or friends+a girl with a bowl of weed and a bottle of booze. Miss those days.
Otherwise, go to college parties, engage in light drinking, become accustomed to mixed crowds. Have you considered joining a fraternity? If you really want to meet women in uni, nothing will beat so-called Greek Life. Parties, girls, sex and socializing so much it'll make your head spin. The apex of normie civilization. College clubs are great, too. I was in the hiking club, it was a blast. If I could go back I'd join a frat instead of being too proud, and join more clubs.
William Cook
Correct. Your best bet will be to pursue women you are friends with.
Yes, you can be friends with a girl and still end up dating her. Anyone who tells you otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about. The real trick is that a girl who won't date you after you're already friends never would have, so you can't go into a friendship expecting anything to come of it down the road either.
Blake Powell
Looks like there's 2 qts at the bottom ripe for the taking
Eli Murphy
>how to win friends and influence people Read that and it's 80% old timey business tactics and 20% "let people walk all over you"
Matthew Phillips
>projecting
It's actually funny the sterotypes and falsehoods being painted on misogynists when it's so easy to hate women
Kek at mcfaggot thinking this is any sort of achievement he only fucks gold digger whores with stds who don't actually give a fuck about him and who would fuck niggers if they had money/fame, he will never experience real pure desire from a woman
Ian Moore
>Have you considered joining a fraternity? I have. I'm a third year now though, I'm not sure but is that too late? Also I'm not sure how good I'd be at rushing. Doesn't that require really good social skills? I think I could do a club though.
That begs the question. How does one get female friends?
Julian Parker
>real pure desire from a woman aanndd what the fuck is that? Does she suck your dick harder? make you bigger meals?
Women literally have nothing to offer men other than sex. No man should ever do any of that "self improvement" crap just to appease a broad.
Whats that old saying women like? >if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.
ofc it is. but guessing the autistic powerlevel of OP those old business tactics might improve his behavior. and thats all what its about. maybe "how to talk to anyone 92 little tricks..." if you want something newer. I mean, this all is just stuff to read and to become confident and shit takes time and practice, but you have to start somewhere
Benjamin Davis
>How does one get female friends? Hobbies where there will also be girls. That means you can't be a warhammer nerd and expect to meet girls at your local store.
Easton Reyes
>a meme diagram from Jow Forums is fact
John Edwards
There's more single people than ever before in modern day America and it's not even close.
Wonder why that is....
Evan Gomez
It's not about self improvement or any of that shit, it's about feeling the pure raw desire from a woman who really wants you. This is usually found in women who have never had a sexual partner before cause once they ride the cock carousel they fry their pairbonding skills and then they lose the ability to love
Joshua Robinson
If you're in college, join the orchestra not even kidding but there's high value females there
Cooper Gonzalez
Men may have different dick sizes but all pussy is the same.
Liam Brooks
People. You make it sound like there is a difference between men and women in statistics.
Logan Myers
Fuck off back to Jow Forums with your retarded incel memes.
Jacob Cook
When will you incel fucks learn that talking to women isnt special? They can be just as dumb and fallible as you are. It's fucking ridiculous how much you over value females. They don't deserve it. At all.
Austin Hall
Fuck off back to tumblr with your feminism
Isaac Hall
I don't think an Incel would value a woman over a toothpick
Liam Smith
OP just give up
Jordan Walker
You have not left your basement after high school. You should not try to give advice to adults.
William Ortiz
Definitely not true. Sure, there's less of a difference, but some girls bottom out at 5 inches and others at 9. It's nothing to do with how promiscuous they are though.
Easton Martinez
Well incels are dumber than women. Even dumber than toothpicks.
Ian Russell
Then they have no reason to be afraid of them which they clearly are.
Aaron Hernandez
All pussies are not the same. Some will naturally be tighter and looser than others. Doesn't matter if she's banged a ton of dudes. Also, arousal level plays a big role too. If she's very turned on and she's soaking wet then there'll be less friction.
Sometimes I try to, but my gonads won't let me. I'd like to. Perhaps if there was some safe way to turn my sex drive on and off at will.
Ayden Johnson
>20 >in third year of uni (a pretty highly ranked one) and in engineering >absolutely pristine hygiene You'll be fine, just have to meet new people and not stress out about meeting new dates. >only about two male friends That's pretty normal imo >never been on a date Also surprisingly normal. I never kissed anyone until I was 21 and I'm pretty average. >virgin not really that big of a deal >don't have a cell phone should fix this, would help you keep in touch with people more easily. Also suggest getting a FB if you don't have one. >5'10 average >3/10 face (4/10 on a good day) hard to tell if people are accurate in their self descriptions but even if your looks are on the lower end I've dated guys who were. Sounds like bullshit, but having a nice personality and sense of humor gives you a big advantage
You're young, it sucks now but you just gotta wait and meet new people. Being honest, you'll probably fail the first many times you put yourself out there, but it gets easier over time.
-femanon
Ethan Wood
Good point. I get the tip.
Matthew Walker
>Perhaps if there was some safe way to turn my sex drive on and off at will. You'll actually eventually mellow out with age.
You know how they call being 30 "wizardhood"? because that's usually when you stop caring about dating and women specifically if you've never had any, mileage may vary.
Then you can focus on better things, like making those bitches pay by creating an invisible gas to off them all
Ethan Johnson
I’ve never touched a minge in my life, but I have started lifting so that will change soon : > )
Angel Hall
If you have a smart phone but no money for a phone plan, you could use any of the free wifi texting and call apps.
Juan Lewis
Kek. Pic related.
How many girls have you asked on date / for their phone number this year op? >pro tip Dancing lessons. Volleyball classes.
Then buy or pirate The Natural by RSDMax. You say you have no idea of even the littlest things related to girls. Well, these two works will give you absolutely everything, from absolute zero. It will take you by the hand and guide you through everything.
>hurr durr pickup is for losers Good luck trying to build a car with no guides at all >dating isn't rocket science lulz
>t. used the mentioned works; became successful with girls
If you don't explore these options, then your misery is 100% on you.
You have a 3 foot roastie cause of all the cock thats pumped and dumped you
Lucas Price
>Literally make male friends and aquaintences without even trying >need TWO whole books to get a woman HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Chase Garcia
>comes in with a godawful mindset and negative viewpoint expecting no results I think maybe part of your problem is you're creating self-fulfilling prophecies by being miserable. Maybe, just maybe, girls don't want the responsibility of being a miserable person's get-out-of-ennui-free card.
Kayden Hughes
>Maybe, just maybe Go the fuck back to your containment website.
You know absolutely nothing about people, women or relationships which probably explains why you have no friends, no girlfriend and no relationship.
Joseph Peterson
Get fit Get a hobby that requires other human beings Interact with people a lot more Try to crack jokes
Liam Kelly
Yeah, you're right, being a fucking whiny brat on Jow Forums is much better than working on yourself and improving your shit-tier personality.
If you hate people, just fucking hire an escort. They're barely people and they don't give a shit how many people you haven't fucked. Why the need for a girlfriend if you fucking hate people to begin with?
Hudson Collins
>working on yourself and improving your shit-tier personality.
>getting THIS assblasted Sounds like you have a terrible, bitter personality. This is why you're single.
Jordan Rogers
Eh, the irony will forever be lost on you, but that's fine. You can stay the way you are. Nobody's stopping you, but you.
Unless, of course, you didn't WANT to be the way you are.
Anthony Reed
>someone who bases their entire worth off of having a partner is throwing insults on Jow Forums Wow colour me surprised, what a shocker It's almost like you're one of a fucking million unimaginative, shitty, bitter people who constantly compare and contrast to other people because they have no sense of self-worth or identity that isn't rooted in a constant game of competition.
But that would just be talking out my ass, and clearly neither of us are doing that
See: You are a fucking parody of yourself. It makes me so happy to know that you're projecting, because now I can take great joy in knowing you have no control or satisfaction in your life. Feel free to keep screeching ITT though. It's really entertaining.
Grayson Torres
I honestly hope Radical Islamic groups get even more powerful so that women actually understand what it's like to be oppressed and not have rights for real realszzz
Nathan Hernandez
And even if that were to happen women would still despise you. Sucks huh?
Ayden Phillips
Work on how you approach people, just be nice but not incel/nice guy nice. Try to find common ground with people you might be surprised how many different people there are for you to engage with. Don't continue being an incel as you will get no where in life
Colton Flores
Wouldn't care. They'd be my slave *shrug*
Gavin Carter
They're racist so they'll probably wipe whites as a whole anyway so you won't be around to suffer through hearing them complain about it. That's something.
I think maybe you're investing an awful lot into Jow Forums because it's become that critical to you, and yet everyone else just drifts and comes and goes. I think it takes a special kind of person to call people a parody on Jow Forums. A special kind of person like you.
Luke Harris
>so you won't be around I'm Muslim
Eli Martin
>all that armchair psychology that amounts to "no u" Let your depression fester so you can finally kill yourself.
Justin Rodriguez
>the kind of person who tells people to kill themselves on Jow Forums Something tells me you're way further down that road than me so I'll just let you take the first honors. Cheers, big ears. Yeah, but the second and third world are known for their lack of intelligence, not possession thereof.
Henry Cook
>black >5'10 >engineering
My dude just get jacked and get a job. Nowadays a straight in shape black man with his shit together is RARE. Black men typically don't make it past 18 without becoming gay, a simp for black women or getting shot
Ride out the storm and it'll get better
Stay away from dark skinned black women tho for your own sanity
Mason Robinson
>no u >again Oh no, guys. I think the retard malfunctioned!
Matthew Ross
Problem is you don't want to put work in the right areas because it takes years of work instead of a false promise of instant results. Improve yourself until you do not care, and then only truly then can you break it. And incels who say they dont care lying they are very bitter and angry about it. Get fit and get social. Social does not mean only talking to girls you want to fuck or only girls. It means making friends, male friends, female friends, coworker friends, classmate friends, club friends. Doesn't matter just reach out, give people a chance assume everyone would be neat to hang around with until proven otherwise by insurmountable evidence. This will make you better at socializing, less awkard and better at talking to girls AND will give you an avenue to meet girls, via friends of friends. Then for the short term two things, hookers and tinder. The former will just get it out of your system, maybe help with intimacy a bit but that is over stated. As for tinder it will give you practice flirting in a low pressure repeatable scenario from the comfort of your own home. Just understand it is a joke. Girls on tinder are retarded, talk to them anyway, make yourself laugh first and foremost. Do it for your own amusement not to get laid or female attention, swipe on girls you are not interested in, and treat every conversation like a way to entertain yourself.
Camden Morris
>all of this unresolved sexual tension Fuck already goddamn. Y'all discussing wanting relationships when you're too blind to see it is right in front of you.
Colton Richardson
HAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA
Okay, now THIS, is epic
Henry Williams
What I don't get is they very clearly hate people and don't like being social but want girlfriends.
Why? This is literally the stark opposite of what you want.
We're no longer hiding anymore. Our voices won't be silent. Get ready for the day of Queer Revolution.
Benjamin Nelson
Because women aren't worth it. I say this as a straight man.
Christopher Myers
That's what I see
Like a woman submitting to her man in public is actually looker down upon now
But ever see a butch dyke and her lipstick lesbian sub? Holy shit she dominates the fuck out of her in public and nobody says a word
Where did we go wrong?
Robert Gutierrez
Yea and my trap bitch can cook, suck dick and is good and knowledgeable about vidya
Grayson Sullivan
"It's not working so might as well stop trying!" People like you will never make it. It'll take a while but you'll get there. I'm sad for the men of this generation.
Bentley Rodriguez
Not gonna lie, if I could go gay I probably would. It would be nice to be in a relationship with someone who wants to be in a relationship as much as I do.
>Like a woman submitting to her man in public is actually looker down upon now Dude I don't even care about that, I just meant that women have so many hoops you have to jump through that it isn't worth it.
Dominic Morgan
Pure love si the greatest feeling, user. But it's very rare any of us will ever receive it.
Adrian Stewart
He looks exactly like a female and has a boob job so I wouldn't call it gay really
Hunter Smith
benis + benis = gay
Cooper Jackson
for example?
Ayden King
being black and intelligent is a far worse combination than being black and ugly
