Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion..,,,,
Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
At least be Ancom or a run of the mill neomarxist >we're going to revolt >just like before >this time it'll work I promise >no I don't know why the USSR failed
So let's say you've abolished states everywhere and the world lives in a state of real communism. What's to stop me from becoming a warlord and setting up my own state?
Charles Wood
"Uh well you see user you won't be alienated from your labor anymore so you wouldn't want to do that. Even if you did, nobody else would join you and you'd be put in a gulag"
According to her it "popped" but I think she meant to say "pooped" because it's now a cloaca
Brayden Ross
Didn't they take some of her stomach to create the.... ugh I can't say it, "vagina?"
Juan Adams
Ok, I have read quite a lot actually and do have a question for you It seems to me that the USSR was doing fine democracy wise up until Stalin died How do you prevent democratic centralism from becoming elitist like it happened after Stalin died and then subsequently being filled up by intellectuals and degenerating into state capitalism? Again The problem with ML in general seems to be that they do fine up until the original vanguard passes and gets replaced by a new younger one... USSR, China etc It seems to be a reccuring theme
Jason Rivera
>autists advocate communism >they think they’re not going to bw in the fields as a slave.
Camden Harris
Communism is the only reason I'm not really afraid of China becoming the leading economy.
Robert Lopez
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis
With computerized/telematic direct democracy, that would eliminate aristocracies to form and the need for professional politicians. A planned economy calculation of whats needed to produce based on that direct democracy input
Zachary Lopez
parlamentary/representative democracy was needed in the past because of lack of technological capabilities, that's no longer the case
Lucas Mitchell
What I came for.
Ian Scott
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
Ok, that is one option But how would you police against counterrevolution I seriously doubt you can just vote capitalism away How will you protect the revolution if you also give the reactionaries a voice? Btw, I thought you were an ML Doesnt this eliminate the need for a vanguard party? How will you prevent spontanious movements from degenerating into liberal bourgeois movements that quickliy fizzle away? I mean, look at what happened after we got smartphones, everyones attention span got smaller You still need a vanguard party, but how do you prevent it from becoming elitist and capitalist like it happened in China and the USSR?
Xavier Adams
Btw, what channels do you watch? I recoment the finnish bolshevik
Josiah Torres
>But how would you police against counterrevolution a parasite that floats through the air & infects all people, it will make them docile & complicit, unable to have any violent or controversial thought
Does taking wealth away from the rich 'cuz equality' count as democracy?
Jaxon King
I love that you guys use the cuck meme but at the end of the day, you are the ones who are cucked into working for the interests of the capitalist class
Oh and those immigrants you hate so much, and whose countries you bombed, they are now being brought into your countries as cheap labour by the capitalist because you guys are too expemsive
Oh wait, butt its da Joos who are doing it because reasons.... Its money bro, it always is
Jose Williams
you must admit the first guy was lazy & half-assed it, thus ruining it
Capital will be dissolved by the workers, capitalism will then just disappear into nothing. A communist society can only exist in a post- scarce world, violence and coercion wouldnt exist when everyones needs are met. Everyones attention span mey have gotten shorter but People with smart phones have got more access to information, are more connected, I dont know how to prevent elitism from forming, I think that Holding them accountable, make them more transparant to the public.
Michael Reed
Ok MOSAD I quoted the manifesto for you now tell me why communism is so great.
Nathan Jackson
capitalism is not a perfect system, it is a stepping stone to reach AI & robotic labor, AI will help with gene editing. God created man, but CRISPR methods will make them all equal via a free virus dispersed to manually edit the DNA of all humans to make IQ and other critical aspects of the human equal. Although the world will never be fair, at least that will eliminate a little of the unfairness billions suffer Also bitcoin & other crytocoins will improve the capitalist system greatly over time. Once good AI is created youll see an acceleration of tech, what would've taken hundreds of years to create via human brains, will be created/solved in mere months.
Taking back whats yours from the capitalist jew who been parasiting on your labor is fine, to pay for public services that favor the people rather than some billionaire
Colton Sullivan
Thats just it, we have enough already people are uneployed and we have overproduction problems, it still hasnt dissolved and it wont, it will try to perpetuate itself as long as it can and if necessary, kill us all in the process And the only social things that can help aliviate these problems ie free education are being eroded all over the world Its up to us to do it
Believe me, things are about to get a lot worse for the world with automation, falling rate of profits and imperialism and the migrant crisis that imperialism will cause
Hopefully, in the next 20 years we will get our chance again And we will People care about the material, not the ideas, what got Trump, Orban and those guys into office was theyr promises to help the working people And to an extent they did, while the current modern "left" was occupied by trans and gay rights instead of class The problem is, they are fucking it up, as long as there is capitalism, which they will never oppose, they will fuck it up The left needs to abandon postmodernism and IdPol and return to Marx
Landon Jones
I don't think its a good idea leaving AI and automation to corporations that are supposed to self regulate it. AI would require a huge government structure to oversee and regulate it, companies should not be allowed to experiment freely with this technology its to dangerous.
Once you open the box, companies release/sell things or access, it will be hacked, stolen, people at home will be able to create such things on their own. Mod their own DNA, create their own robots & weapons of mass destruction, as well as shields from it, etc. There is a good chance it will eventually lead to total destruction of the human race or planet. It is the acceleration that is the great filter & the reason you do not see billions of space ships in the night sky from various other worlds. We eventually roll those dice & hope we win.
We currently have crony capitalism in the U.S. when capitalism was bridled, government was at a minimum and freedom was at a maximum the U.S. became the greatest country ever not perfect but way way way better than what you propose. When the script flipped every thing started going to hell. Also AI is a weapon of math destruction it wont save anyone.
