>been with my gf for +5yrs >waiting to land a new job to propose (in negotiations for comp now) >been thinking about fucking other girls none stop >standards for girls i see that i fantasize about lowering >start fantasize about dating them >thinking about some lying in bed with some of them >thinking about date nights and leading up to fucking >want to hit on every piece of ass in the supermarket >when i was single i would have the same mindset but never actually make moves >i got laid, but mostly from bartending and dating apps (pre-tinder days) >i fantasize about eating random old woman pussy bc my girl doesnt like being eaten out
even if i cheat on her on the down low, i dont think that would solve it. i am thinking about dating regularly. i saw a girl today and wanted to ask her to get coffee. i want to, not just fuck, but date, all the local baristas at starbucks. there are girls at my gyms i have complete crushes on like im in fucking high school or something.
Don’t cheat, Everything immoral thing gets easier the more you do it and it will ruin your current and future relationships.
If it isn’t working out with your girl man up and leave her.
Adrian Walker
Yes, but I don't have a girlfriend.
Elijah Morales
but couldn't it be an extreme case grass is always greener?
Lincoln Lee
It might be, but maybe things have legit gotten unsatisfying with OP’s girl over the years which is normal. I dunno what to do about the eating pussy thing since it seems she never liked it but if OP and his gf aren’t dating or doing things that they used to enjoy that’s definitely something they can work on.
Either way don’t cheat, don’t cross that line.
Benjamin Perry
Don't cheat.
Try talking with a counselor, or (as we have in the UK) the Samaritans about it.
I had this with my girl I left recently, it got to the final straw when I laid next to her while she slept, masturbating to the thought of a girl I had met recently. For me, as soon as I left her, I thought id have the ultimate confidence to slam any pussy I wanted, but it wasn't the case. Ending things broke my heart and I didn't have the confidence to go up to girls and play the numbers game. The catch tho is that me and my girl clearly weren't getting along.
If you're thinking about other girls, youre not thinking about her, which means youre stuck inside your own head. I bet you havent been paying attention to her nearly enough. You've either got to leave her (which will hurt) or get some kind of counselling involved for you or the both of you.
James Lewis
that sounds like a really normal situation, i mean my longest relationship was 3 years, but these urges started a few weeks after getting together with any girl.
TBQH I talked with my GF about it upfront and we concluded, that if the urge ever gets big enough, I may see a prostitute or have sex with another chick (but no dating/relationship on the side)
After all, she is the best woman I can imagine and I wouldnt want to marry another woman, so why leave her over such a trivial thing? Sure if you approach your GF after 5 years with this, it might fail but if you think your situation is becoming unbearable then it's up to her to cause a relieve or go her own way.
Noah Ramirez
same user
My GF said it was the most important thing for her, to know that this is not based on her beeing imperfect and that you are not looking to replace her. This comes from your programming to spread your genes and haveing sex with as many different women as possible is what your limbic system craves like a drug.
Thomas Howard
Break up or work on things. I did something similar, but decided to cheat. It’s haunted me ever since. Then I broke up with my long time GF after, and said some pretty horrible things. I came out and told her everything and then was mean to further push her away. I don’t know why I did it. I regret it every day. It’s been just over 3 years now and you don’t know how many letters I’ve written just to apologize for my actions but have never sent. Just break up or work on things - but do not cheat. It changes everything.
Cameron Ortiz
30 y/o serial cheater here. Basically never been in a relationship where I didn't cheat at least once. Longest relationship was 6 years, current relationship bit over 5. Slept with 27 girls so far. Never caught once. I should point out that the amount of fucks I give about other humans is only proportional to how much I can get out of the relationship for myself. As such, your mileage may vary depending on whether you have any conscience or not. Before all the inevitable "You are a horrible asshole, fuck you" replies - I know. I've accepted it, internalised it, stopped fighting it and as a result my life has improved drastically.
>I am thinking about dating regularly. not just fuck, but date. I'm a bit like that. However, the person I enjoy having sex with most of all is my long term current girlfriend. But what I crave is validation and a sense of being wanted by other women, hence it's really the meeting & dating and not the sex that does it for me (although it usually inevitably leads to sex).
A few tidbits of advice I can offer before you irreversibly ruin your life:
No amount of hearing this or this or this will ever make your hormones and limbic system shut the fuck up. You can't reason your way out of millions of years of evolution favouring free-for-all fuck fests (unless you have fairly high IQ enough to supress your instincts). Each person lives and dies with the consequences of their actions, ALONE. Think about that before you reflexively assume any socially-sanctioned morals and virtues that might not apply to you.
>want to date all the local baristas at starbucks + girls at my gyms No. If you're going to be a cheating pussylickin scumbag then do. not. shit. where. you. eat. Go out of your way to have a separate hunting ground. Go to the next biggest town on weekends. Travel frequently. Alternatively - selectively go for tourists only.
>cont. >when I was single i would have the same mindset but never actually make moves And you likely won't for a while, even if you're commited to dating other girls. You've been out of the game for 5 years and your previous lays were from bartending and dating apps. Do not make the mistake of thinking that if only it wasn't for your girlfriend you would be rolling in pussy paradise. You're rusty as hell, horny and desparate to date. Other women will smell that immediately. Which is why I would advise against breaking up with your gf straight away. You might find that you can't get a date for shit, realise that you aren't all that, realise that it's not the case that your gf is holding you back, and consequently refocus on your current relationship and redouble your efforts to maintain and improve it, and put all thoughts of cheating aside. Could happen. But you have to try it to find out for yourself.
The chances of actually finding someone who would be OK with this are extremely slim, and after 5 years if the relationship was not built on this dynamic then it is very difficult to turn it into something like that.
>you don't know how many letters I've written to apologize >haunted by it Boo fucking hoo. Man up and understand that your biggest mistake was telling her that you cheated in the first place. Why would you purposefully hurt another human being like that, especially when it is completely unnecessary to tell? Just accept that you succumbed to your biological impulses, that it was a shitty thing to do and that now you (and only you) have to bear the consequences. Not a big deal if you accept and stop fighting it.
Grayson Davis
What a broken shithead, morality in the gutter, daddy issues and no self-control whatsoever. I'm sorry user.
Henry Morales
Jesus dude you are an awful human being with no regard for those around you.
Sebastian Collins
Hahahah "broken shithead", "awful human"? Come on, you guys can do better than that. I come home to my sweet loving gf, give her a long deep kiss, gaze deep into her eyes and whisper "I love you" in her ear for the 100th time whilst she giggles - meanwhile I have some hot nurse's pussy juice on my balls and a date set up for next week. I'm 100% aware that I'm a wretchedly horrible person because many people like you have told me that that's what I am, but the truth is - I feel fucking great about my life. Stay salty, losers.
Jack Barnes
I was just explaining the downstream effects of cheating, and why it isn’t worth it. I’m not looking for sympathy. Hopefully you will mature some day. My mistake wasn’t telling her I did it, it was chewting in the first place. But a brainlet like you fails to comprehend that. Not surprising.
Oliver Perez
Hey op. Most people think about cheating because they lack something, i.e. emotional support, financial support or in your case, is under sexual frustration. I would reccomend you amd your girlfriend to work towards something to resolve the said issue if you truly love her. If she doesnt want to do it, then it is logical for you to leave, If you really want to eat her out that much. Because in my opinion, eveyone is entitled to their own sexual satisfaction. But if it isnt a big deal for you, i dont see the reason for a break up. Break up with your girl before you bang that chick, cheating isnt cool. All the best user
Henry Green
>selfishly confesses to gf about cheating because too weak to bear guilt alone >loses count of "letters I've written just to apologize for my actions but have never sent" >accuses someone who doesn't have these problems of being an immature brainlet
Okay then. Why don't you tell me what some of these "downstream effects of cheating" are, assuming that one posesses the appropriate character allowing for the bearing of internal guilt without issues? Because as far as I can tell the only effect is constantly being lambasted by insufferable losers like yourself for not feeling bad.
Face it. You're a beta for not owning your primal desires. You caved in to the urge and let it control you instead of using that intense passionate current of power for your own means. You got scared and couldn't endure the ensuing emotions alone so you then decided to throw them at your gf, irreversibly harming her in the process by unnecessarily confessing your infidelity.
If you think that your sense of honour and virtue is what will give you peace of mind then by all means go ahead and lead transparent monogamous relationships based on open trust and communication. Just don't be so arrogant to think there aren't people on the other side of the spectrum whose peace of mind is built on earnestly pursuing one's carnal desires, and don't think that the only reasons those people pursure that path is out of mental deficiency or lack of maturity.
John Brooks
i have some advice for you: kill yourself, you worthless cheating scumbag. if i was with you, i'd drug you, tie you up in a chair and watch me have a bukkake with 5 mandingos while they all stare at your patheticness, keep all their cum in my mouth, and spit into your mouth and force you to swallow
Liam Wright
Slaanesh approves
Henry Moore
die
Bentley Ross
solid advice
James Miller
nice larping virgin
David Collins
Sounds like this bitch got cheated on for being a crazy bitch lol
sorry to burst your bubble but no, i'm actually a really sweet, faithful partner but there's something about me that wants to do that to prideful cheaters. i could if i feel very vindicated
Jose Lopez
sauce on that painting?
Ryder Brown
You sound like a complete degenerate, so I'd say go ahead and break up with your gf. You'll probably find out that the grass is not always greener on the other side and that a stable relationship is something you should cherish nowadays. Too many whores, not enough loyal women. When you find one, you should hold on to her.
Cameron Young
>filename >birthday boy
Camden Thomas
People like you who have no self control are not men. Your just a little boy who hasnt learned how to keep it in his pants. Self control is a masculine trait. Maybe you'll get there someday.
Luis Collins
What would you think if she cheated on you? yeah, dont be a double standard piece of shit
If youre ok with that then just talk it with her, tell her you want to experiment, maybe... just MAYBE if youre lucky youll get a thresome.
If you really love the girl you wont cheat without feeling girl
If you dont really love the girl theres no point staying in a long term relationship
easy
Samuel Barnes
would it surprise you if i told you youll miss her terribly after she dumps you?
Austin Gray
>What would you think if she cheated on you? i wouldnt be shocked to be honest.. especially since she has accused me in the past and has gone through my phone multiple times when i wasnt around
>youll get a thresome have tried, she isnt into it
i think i'd miss her.. but im pretty self centered
Henry Mitchell
Pussy. Leave the poor cow before you drag her into the inevitable shit show. Making excuses for yourself ain't gonna fix it.
Jaxon Peterson
Look OP - This is the kind of woman you are up against. Did you think your gf is a "really sweet faithful partner" too? Watch out, she might be capable of causing you great harm and misery with full intent.
Honey, you don't have to tie me up for me to watch you get railed by niggers. I'll grab some popcorn at a comfortable distance so you can play out your secret black dick gangbang fantasy all you want. But don't you think it's interesting that this is the first place your mind went to?
I've never been caught and I've never degraded nor hurt a girl by flaunting the fact that I cheated in her face (or by confessing like this shmuck- ). So how can anyone consider that your degrading me by forcing me to watch your perverted bukkake fantasy is a response that is justified or comparably measured?
You're a massive hypocrite who gets off on the idea of gangbangs and violence all in the guise of retribution. Yet I'm the one being condemned for discreetly acting on my urges? Get fucked. (By as many niggers as you like, baby).
The truth is that every single person in this world is primarily out for themselves first and foremost. People are charitable because it makes them feel good. People lay off gratification because they're gonna feel good in the future. People act with honour and virtue because it plays into their fantasy of being an upstanding human being and that makes them feel good. I have high quality long term relationships while discreetly dating hot chicks on the side because it makes me feel good. You fantasize wanting to get fucked by a bunch of black dudes because it makes you feel good. We're all playing the same game. The only difference between me and you is that I've accepted and internalised my urges.
I did. Was married tho. Divorced and happier than ever. Your brain and dick are telling you something. Time to bounce nigga don't ask the question.
Liam Brooks
user you make really great points, based on facts
But ultimately telling a woman you are loyal to her and then cheating, is a low down immoral thing to do that you will eventually pay for. I can absolutely guarantee that.
Oliver Brown
>brainlet >immature >little boy >no self control >absence of masculine traits
I asked you two questions and your response is to completely sidestep them and continue throwing negative character trait labels at me.
Imagine that in reality I was the opposite of all those labels, in descending order - a smart, mature, grown man, capable of self control and exuding masculine traits. (Not saying I am any of those things, but let's pretend for the sake of argument). And yet I still chose to pursue my vices.
What would be your argument then?
Keep avoiding my questions and call me names. Maybe if you do it enough it well help with the pain of sobbing in a corner and scrawling "Im so sorry" letters 3 years on after you put your dick into a bad bad place. Pathetic.
OP, learn from this guy ^^^ If you're going to stick your peepee in a bad bad place there's no turning back and you'll have to own the consequences alone. This guy obviously couldn't own it.
Benjamin Nelson
Why do you think it will come back around? Do you think life is inherently fair or balances somehow?
Thomas Moore
Well by cheating you think that you're winning, but actually you are losing by destroying your soul and any chance at real love.
The consequences will be internal as you age and reflect on your life.
As a former manwhore I wish I had not had sex with so many women like I did. Real love is better than all that stuff.
Ryder Morales
i'm not taking a pitiful cheater seriously at all kiddo, if you expect me to read that essay. you can write the whole declaration of degeneracy and it still means absolutely nothing to me :* shove your meaningless words up your tight kiester
Gabriel Butler
also, the whole point of my previous comment was describing how i would vindicate you and your disgusting immoral behavior. and people like you, and i'm out here going on a limb because i feel like you're just living out this sick fantasy whilst being a virgin pretending to be a ""chad."" if you hadn't, that wouldn't happen, silly billy. but i didn't think it would hurt you, i was just giving an example.
(p.s. you virgins are so cute!! i could just vore you and shit you out like the vile piece of crap you are)
Isaac Johnson
Your real issue isn't that you're unethical... it's that your moral system is completely mediocre. You haven't managed to sublimate any of your most basic biological programming into anything worth anything outside of your own gratification. Not to mention that you try to mock others for projecting value systems onto others, and make accusations of hypocrisy, while completely oblivious to your own hypocritical mass projection that "everyone is playing the same game", which would in itself be a fairly miserable cop-out for your behaviour even if it were true.
Sad.
Brayden Nguyen
>hypocritical mass projection that "everyone is playing the same game", which would in itself be a fairly miserable cop-out
Name one thing you willingly do in your life that deviates from seeking pleasure/avoiding pain.
Aaron Cooper
So far we have >don't do it it's immoral >don't cross that line >cheating isn't cool >try talking with a counselor >break up or work on things - I'm haunted for 3 years scribbling away "Sorry" letters like an emasculated bitch >maybe if you're lucky you'll get a threesome
And anyone who cheats is a >broken shithead, daddy isues, no self-control >awful human being >immature brainlet >not real man >should be tied up in a chair and watch some salty fat femanon with a black gangbang fantasy have bukakke with 5 mandingos >shove their meaningless words up their ass
And yet no-one has answered the simple question of >"What are the "downstream effects of cheating", assuming one posesses the appropriate character allowing for the bearing of internal guilt without issues?"
We even have >destroying your soul
I don't see this soul that's being talking about. What I do see is picrelated. Every box is one week of your life (assuming you don't get sick or run over). A significat chunk of that chart will already be gone, and for another chunk your dick will be old and withered. When you're on that last square of your life - all those righteous cheater haters won't be there for you. You will die alone. Even with a significat other, you will die alone. It's up to you to determine what would give you ultimate peace of mind on that square.
I think that since we all die alone our primary objective should be to be honest to ourselves first and foremost. For some people that means only sticking to one partner at a time (even if it means masturbating next to their sleeping body whilst thinking about somebody else). For people like me being honest means accepting my impulses and deliberately acting on them to achieve (what I think is) a best-of-both-worlds scenario. OP is thinking of acting on his impulses. I'm saying that it's entirely possible and if you have a particular mindset there are no/minimal repercussions.
Having said that- You should dump the bitch immediately. Anyone who goes through your phone without your permission is instantly out.
There you go, problem solved. Now you can go be a manwhore and all the righteous paragons of virtue on Jow Forums can stop squirming at the thought of something natural that's been hammered into our biology since the beginning of time.
Eli Robinson
>this amount of COPE Lmao.
Brayden Parker
If you still prefer to choose your vices over a healthy honest relationship then you aren't much of a 'smart' and 'mature' 'adult' at all. And BTW I was a totally different guy you were replying to you idiot.
Austin Torres
The downside is knowing that your not being faithful and lying to someone. Or is that not enough for you? I mean, why have a girlfriend at all if your just going to go behind her back fucking everybody? Is instant gratification that important to you? If you just want to have sex with other people then why do you have a girlfriend? It seems very malicious to me that you would keep her around at all if you just want to have sex with other people. Its almost like you want to hurt her. Just break up with her and have your fun?
Hunter Powell
>If you just want to have sex with other people then why do you have a girlfriend?
Read my post - Sex with a long term gf is cool. Quick flings with random hot chicks is another kind of cool. The two are not mutually exclusive. As I said I crave validation and a sense of being wanted by other women. I cultivate both realities and thus harvest the benefits of both worlds. Everyone is telling me I'm destroying my soul and horrible things will come to me, but after 10+ years of it I've yet to see any negative side effects.
>Knowing that you're not being faithful and lying to someone Yeah but those things don't bother me at all.
>it's almost like you want to hurt her It's almost like you're making a point but not really. There's nothing "malicious" about what I'm doing. I'm simply indulging in my desires in a discreet way. There is literally no one being hurt in this situation. Honestly, you could argue that this guy's actions resulted in a much more painful situation for everyone involved, even though he only cheated once whereas I've cheated on everyone I've dated.
Elijah Stewart
Well, obviously I can't convince you what your doing is wrong so just do you I guess.