Could I get a basic gestalt on Iran and the Persians?
The media and western governments are very anti-Iran, and I agree that their current regime is a bit radical.
Overall though Iran is a much better nation than most Arab states: >More moderate shia islam (though it would be better if Iran went back to its traditional faiths) >Ancient culture, language, food, music >Excellent scientists and academics >Proud and noble people
Why does the media hate Iran? Why do we ally with the evil Saudis instead? How can we get the Shah reinstated?
>Why does the media hate Iran? Why do we ally with the evil Saudis instead? Because it's in Israel's interest not to have a whiter and more civilized nuclear-deterrent backed alternative to their budding middle-eastern empire.
Austin Sullivan
Media is controlled by Juden Iran wants to wipe das Juden volk off the map Israel uses its proxies (journo faggots) to counter Iran, thus media hates Iran
Benjamin Smith
They are not white, they never were and never will be.
Adrian Turner
>flag >checks out
Noah Garcia
Iranian literally means Aryan
t. American education
Not that whiteness is an indicator of greatness.
Luke Sullivan
Hint: it's the jews. Right. Aryanism does not demand whiteness.
Liam Allen
i'd say its essentially true. Iran really isn't "white" but it doesn't need to be for it be great for itself. Objectively speaking they are "whiter" than israel and America however.
Nobody is ever able to do this. Because the dna doesn't match up with their head canon where the aryans are some sort of mythological progenitor race.
Cameron Ward
Persia has an older and in some ways richer than literally any European nation other than the Greeks (and the Greeks now are very different from the Greeks then). I'd say the arbitrary definition of Aryan doesn't matter so much as the enduring legacy of a people.
Isaac Reed
What is your point? If you want to go back even further then civilization was started by semitic people in the fertile crescent.
Hudson Harris
I'm talking about enduring culture and tradition. The Persian one has endured uninterrupted for over 2500 years, as a unique, elegant, and sophisticated culture.
Xavier Williams
They are a bunch of muslims sand niggers. I understand they weren't always muslim but they have always been sand niggers.
On a side note is pleases me to know that the son of the former shah only has daughters. I hope they marry negroes
What do you actually know about Persian culture? They have been an established civilization for the longest time, unlike the Arabs who are largely nomadic.
I know many Persians, and they are incredibly intelligent, kind and hospitable. Very different from Arabs.
Gavin Edwards
I don't know or care if those things are true. I do know they are not white. They do not belong to my tribe. They have no place in white society. If what you say is true then they have their own great society. They should go live there.
Brayden Cook
That's what they want dipshit. Our fucking great (((society))) keeps fucking theirs up.
Iran is much better than Israel: they mind their business and suffer sanctions all the time, Israel has infinite gibs and its big nose everywhere.
Landon Scott
All the iranian diaspora need to go back to iran and fix it. Or do you think we owe them reparations in the form of letting them stay in our countries?
Dylan Edwards
>Why does the media hate Iran? Greece and Rome hated Iran 3000 years ago and it never went away
Henry Williams
>I don't know or care if those things are true. If you don't care about the Truth, then shut the fuck up. You worship ignorance.
Elijah Ramirez
Honestly if I had to take immigrants from one non-european country, it would be from Iran.
The ones that do immigrate are doctors and engineers, and contribute a lot to society.
You clearly know very little about them though caleb, I hope your sisters pregnancy with your son is going well.
Josiah Myers
YOU FAGS INVADED DURING WW2 DISPUTE THEM BEING NEUTRAL YOU FAGS INSTALLED A PUPPET SHAH WHO WAS ANAL RAPING THE COUNTRY YOU FAGS GOT SO FUCKING ANGSTY THAT A REVOLUTION HAPPENED THAT YOU SICKED IRAQ ON THEM AND STARTED THE MOST BRUTAL WAR OF A GENERATION YOU FAGS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO CRIPPLE THEM ECONOMICALLY EVER SINCE YOU FAGS ARE FIGHTING THEM DIRECTLY WITH PROXY WARS AND TRYING TO KILL OFF THEIR FEW ALLIES
NO YOU FUCKING FIX IT NERD, THE PERSIANS IN AMERICA ARE ALL THE ONES THAT SUPPORTED YOUR SHITTY PUPPET. FUCK.
Jose Garcia
What I do know is that the genetic evidence tells me that iranians are not white. They have no place in white society. If you love iranians so much then go move to iran. Don't bring them to white countries.
>doctors and engineers I can't even tell if you are being serious.
Iran is a third world shithole that is surrounded by other third wolrd shit holes. Stop trying to blame whites for iran being a shit hole. Third world people create third world countries.
Anthony Gray
He is, Iranians don't come here unless they are rich.
Ian Miller
I’ve never meet a poor Persian. They’re still more modest and family oriented with their wealth than the Chinese.
Jordan Green
Iranian Americans are model minorities. Many are doctors and engineers. Check notable here:
Anyways, USA has significant damaged Iran. Thus, you have no moral high-ground and we're staying. Just leave us alone. We pay taxes and don't cause any trouble on average.
Eli Adams
>significant damaged significantly damaged*
Charles Cook
I'm not blaming whites, i'm blaming America you mutt. Have you ever seen Iran? It's not Ukraine, it's not Moldova, it's not even Russia if you are looking at the Persian areas. Ukraine is worse in terms of GDP then Botswana, even before the war, are they 3ed worlders? Have you seen America? Go into your cities, look at the fucking state of things, worse then anywhere in Iran, you created that.
William Edwards
Every minority groups claims that they are model minorities. Aside from spics who can just hop a fence, it often appears to be true because only the ones with money are able to escape their shit hole.
But you are not white. You have no place in white society. I understand I can't make you or any of the other shit skins leave. Third world people create third world countries. If we let in enough of you then white countries will start to become third world.
Daniel Jackson
>t. muhammed
Colton Watson
>Persian people KEK People from Iran are arabs Genetics speak for themselves
- relationship between Iran and the Arabian Peninsula - The admixture analysis results indicate that the majority of Iran's mitochondrial pool is derived from Arabia - The genetic affinities between the Arabian Peninsula and Iranian groups may stem from gene flow at various points during the time continuum - the degree of similarities between the Peninsular Arabs and the Iranians suggests widespread (involving the movement of large numbers of individuals) rather than discreet (a few scattered communities) migratory waves nature.com/articles/jhg2010174?foxtrotcallback=true
God I want to put people like you in a fucking oven and turn it all the way up. Fucking kike
Colton Kelly
These people are either non white shills or just disgusting race traitors.
Juan Turner
>Aryan - Aryan, name originally given to a people who were said to speak an archaic Indo-European language - scholars have rejected both the Aryan invasion hypothesis and the use of the term Aryan as a racial designation, suggesting that the Sanskrit term arya (“noble” or “distinguished”), the linguistic root of the word, was actually a social rather than an ethnic epithet. - the term is used strictly in a linguistic sense britannica.com/topic/Aryan
Do people like Peter Scully, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, and other deranged maniacs have a place in White society? After all, they're White, but they have a thing for torturing and killing other Whites.
Socioeconomic status correlates with IQ. Anyway, you come off as having low IQ to me because you speak in a very shallow meme-like way.
It's people like you that should be kicked out of the country because all you do is pull it down with your retardation. No wonder Jews so effectively manipulated you retards.
Levi Perry
Iran literally pushes for a world wide Shia Islamic state
Cooper Hernandez
Too much jew on this map...
Grayson Ward
I find a lot Persian women beautiful but I imagine they'd be quite a head ache to deal with.
William Morris
>flag
Nice try schlomo.
Also it's the Jews. It's always the Jews.
The Jew fears its inevitable destruction at the hands of Iran. Call it whatever you will racially, they're on the frontlines against the Zog.
>TFW I will never become a Hezbollahi clubbing the crap out of faggot degenerate Westernized Tehran kids trying to ferment regime change for Israel.
Why live
Ya just like America pushes for 'liberal democracy' through a neocon doctrine of trotskyite permanent revolution.
Iran isn't a third world country. It's about as developed as Greece, Spain and Portugal (All "white" countries), and that's despite crippling sanctions.
Nathaniel Edwards
Those people do not have a place in white society which is why we imprison them. When you have hundreds of millions of people there will be some defects.
And if you are a big brain iranian like you say then you should know about the iq regression to the mean.
Sorry but some taxes and doctors are not worth the gene pool pollution you sand monkeys cause. Go make your own country better. Iran will never become great again if everyone with money and skills leave
Cooper Wilson
all those guys look inbred. they're also all probably dead by now - bombed by idf in syria
I kind of feel bad for the Iranians, while I hate most of the ones in Germany. More on that later though.
>Persians are the first great challenge to overcome Europeans >get BTFO and invaded instead by Greeks >get conquered by Moslems who appropriate all your achievements as Muslim inovations >outside world doesn't bother anymore and begins to associate Persians with backwards Arabs
Why do I hate the Iranians in Germany? Because most of them have been kicked out in 1979: Marxists, feminists and degenerates of all colors that were corrupting the Iranian youths and now brought this to their intellectual pals in German universities.
For a good discussion about the bizarre herecy the Iranian revolution has done for their government watch the following video. I can't help but think sometimes, that the Revolutianiry Guard is actually closer to the meme of Right Wing Death Squads than any state force we know today.
The Shah was a better leader than Mosaddegh, change my mjnd.
Dominic Torres
>muh iranian iq Lynn/Vanhanen did their studies in 2002-2006, and they just skipped Iran altogether and based it on GDP data. The last IQ score that was carried out on Iran was in 1959, which was done by Valentine. So, Iran's IQ was measured in one and only one study, which was done in the 1950s. That's all we got for Iran. Only three other countries in Lynn/Vanhanen have IQ data as outdated as Iran's. >sand monkeys You've been worshiping one for over a thousand years. >When you have hundreds of millions of people there will be some defects. I am trying to explain you, yourself, are also a defect.
Jose Reyes
The fuck are you on about? Iran is officially a theocracy that openly states they they want a world wide religious revolution
Aryans were an ancient race that lived near the urals. They migrated in several directions, conquering the locals and establishing civilizations. In India, they established the caste system to segregate the Dravidian remnants; but eventually became mixed anyways. The Iranians also mixed with the locals. The Germans remained relatively pure, but probably mixed with celts and slavs as well. There are also those who settled in Tarim basin but were wiped out by mongols.
I hope this has been enlightening for you.
Thomas Bennett
Iran got played desu Basically once Iran was white, but then Arabs invaded them Latter on, they tried to use Shia Islam as a defense mechanism to separate themselves somewhat from Arabs, but this backfired during the Islamic revolution The new clerical government started accepted Shiites from everywhere, and the whites who at this point were confined to the north got flooded out by more mutts and browns. This is why there are so many surprisingly white Iranians in America, they fled Iran since they had become a minority in their own country.
Cooper Hernandez
Iran
Grayson Fisher
I've talked with Iranians on kik. They live in a shithole. They use vpns to interact with westerners because they're banned in Iran. Pretty much everything is banned there. The ones I've talked to, also egyptians and syrians, talk about migrating to Sweden, Canada, UK, or the US to work. You faggots better thank me because I've been dropping redpills and shit in the chats and now they're scared to leave.
Persians are heretics unless they come back to Zoroaster.
Isaiah Roberts
Iranians are based, but they're not White. ZOG absolutely seethes with hatred for Iran so you know they're good people. Personally I think we could have a Japan-tier relationship with them if we remove ZOG. They're not White, but they're not nigger/spic-tier either. Therefore we should treat them as a non-White ally, just like the Japanese or the Irish. [spoiler]The Irish part is a fucking joke you spergs.[/spoiler]
Isaiah Cox
Indo-european and aryan are not the same thing. These words have meanings and those meanings matter. You can't just arbitrarily redefine these words because they fit your head canon where the aryans are some mythological progenitor race.
Wyatt White
Notice how they want to move to the west to work, not gibs. Persians tend to work very hard.
Ethan Peterson
It's very simple really.. Iran is one of a few countriess that haven't been invaded post 911. If zionist Israel wants the temple mount in Jerusalem, they'll have to destroy Al Aqsa. If they do so, all muslim nations surrounding will condemn and invade upon this happening. Therefore they're invading one nation at a time, destroying the country so they flee to Europe. Install a puppet government and slowly but surely edge towards the Greater Israel. It's all one big zionist shit storm
Dylan Anderson
This
Luis Hall
I guess i't's easy enough for you to say that when you have never lived in iran and probably never will have to. I guess shame on me for giving you such an easy out
Mason Butler
Iran went through a cultural revolution like America, but they spotted the Jew and had a non-violent reformation.
Ideally they would stay (most of the ones I've met say they would go back if things change), but the US sanctions and islamic regime there don't make it a good environment for free enterprise.
Henry Clark
What a little bitch, lmao
Brody Morales
The Shah did nothing wrong. If he were the head of state in Iran instead of the goatfuckers, I would be the most pro-Iran guy in the world
Kevin Green
Reminder that a huge number of the influential diaspora Iranians are kikes btw.
This is what the Jews do. They turn THEIR problems into America's problems. I bet you believed them on Assad and Saddam too. White Americans spend trillions that they could have spent propping up their own people on maintaining what amounts to the superior Jewish race's summer home. Financially there is no policy more anti-white than Zionism except maybe unrestricted third world migration (which is related).
Is that what your retarded boomer parents told you when absorbing Walter Cronkike?
They literally had the hostage crisis and these talking points hammered into them every single day in the late 70s by the electric Jew because the kikes were mad at Carter not maintaining their hegemony.
>go to a language school to learn Arabic >they teach a variety of languages all over the campus like Hebrew, Farsi, various dialects of Arabic, Russian, and Chinese >the Persian Farsi school house is on the complete other side of the campus >turns out it used to be near the Hebrew and Arabic school houses and had to be moved because the Farsi instructors kept getting into fights with the Jews and Arabs
99% of people posting haplogroups have no idea what a haplogroup is. All they understand is that haplogroups are usually associated with ethnicity and interpret this to mean that a group is or isn't white based on the haplogroup they belong to. Haplogroups are a collection of alleles found on the y chromosome that have mutated over time into different versions of the same gene. The y chromosome is passed directly from father to son so you can directly trace someones paternal linage using these haplogroups. They say nothing at all about the other 45 chromosomes. A pole who belongs to r1a is much much more closely related to a german who belongs to I than he is to an iranian that belongs to r1a. Using haplogroups as a determining of race makes even less sense when you consider that women do not have y chromosomes. In most cases these haplogroups arose and dispersed before the races even existed as we know them today. And they become concentrated due to the founder effect.
Carter Gutierrez
I assume the ones in the West don't like the ayatollahs.
Luke Cruz
And Washington claims to protect peace...
Even David Reich has put it that way in his latest book. I don't understand why this is ridiculed so often nowadays on Jow Forums.
Jaxson Cox
kek. >You know that cocksucker said I look like the Shah of Iran?
Tbh I prefer Shia and Ahmadhiyya Muslims over Sunni. Although I would prefer if Iran went back to zorotarianism, bahia would be okay, or even some Persian form of Christianity. If you ever want any Muslim country to be a good one, the only option is for Muslims to not be Muslims (fundamentalists)
Julian Watson
Okay retard. Don't know why we should friendly with either the Jews or the Muslims.
Connor Edwards
they were a bunch of glowinthedark niggers who got hung for being traitors to their own people. good riddence
That's the only reason why they come; to use and benefit from our economies. They're all men in their early 20s too btw. They've even said to me that they only care about the economy and not the nation.
You're the one who's trying to redefine a prehistoric cultural group into something it's not by crying that they don't exist when it's already been confirmed by archaeology, linguistics and genetics.
Daily reminder Khomeini was backed by the USA. Read in full before judging:
BBCPersian has found recently declassified documents in US National Archive about secret plan of president Kennedy to overthrow secular government of Pahlavi in favour of Shia clergy led by Ayatollah Khomeini through a coup plot in 1963.
US gov & CIA had formed "Iran 918 Group" consisted of a several Iranian Army commanders to overthrow Shah's government if he resist any Islamic revolution. One of the group members was Mohammad-Vali Gharani who later became Iran Army's Chief-of-Staff after Islamic revolution.
Later on, Carter's administration was also becoming tired with the Shah since he was no longer being an OPEC puppet, and Carter's administration initially backed Khomeini:
It is fairly clear from the linked document and several other declassified papers that elements of the US government were actively conspiring against the Shah from the mid 1970s until his fall. The Shah kept pushing for oil price hikes at a time of economic weakness in the West, and just after the US domestic oil production peaked. With that revenue he was embarking upon ambitious development programmes. Eventually, the US managed to get Saudi Arabia to undercut the official OPEC oil price and therefore undercut the Shah. Revolution came shortly afterwards
The USA began distancing itself from Iran since William E. Simon's 1974 petrodollar deal with Saudi Arabia.
Also, on a funnier note, Carter's ambassador to UN also called Khomeini a saint
Now USA is supporting Islamist Marxist terrorists called MEK/NCRI/PMOI (parent groups) as alternatives to the present regime. They are even worse and fall into this same pattern.
Carter Jackson
1953 coup was organized by the U.K and they asked the U.S to help them out. Mosaddeq also dethroned the shah, implementated a dictatorship and tried running to the Soviets
Bentley Sanders
spotted the NY Jew.
Samuel Stewart
People on Jow Forums don't care about the science. Everything is aryans and indo-europeans. And race is just skin and eye color except when it isn't. And brown people are bad except for the based ones. And civic nationalism is bad except when it's not. Jow Forums is not the kind of place where you want to try and create good political ideology. There's too many non whites and retards shilling
Lucas Bailey
>A pole who belongs to r1a is much much more closely related to a german who belongs to I than he is to an iranian that belongs to r1a.
That reads right. Of course the races have changed in that time of seperation. At least that is what the anons are trying to tell you and I don't see where you disagree exactly.
Ayden Roberts
the only people calling themselves persian are zoroastrians, iranians called themselves iranians for the last thousand years, its just that the west kept calling it persa until after ww2. in fact churchill wanted iran to call itself persa for the duration of the war to avoid confusion with iraq. also zorotarians are child molestors 10x worse than jews. if these bastards took over greece in antiquity i assure you the world would be a lot worse.
Luis Wood
Washington makes no such claim.
Anthony Walker
True, this kind of shit makes me mad.
Anthony Bell
Do you not know about the jews or what?
Dominic Rodriguez
Iranians did the right thing with Jews. They made a distinction between Jews and Iranians and limited their ability to subvert. They are allowed to make an honest living, but no gov positions or banking for them.
