Racial Insecurity

It's been years and I still can't get over my insecurity of being Indian. We are not good at anything, what is there to be proud of? We are the physically weakest people on Earth, stupid as fuck and our country and culture is nearly total dogshit. There is almost nothing to brag about.

It makes me angry when I see super skinny or super timid beta Indian guys because I feel like they are disgracing us and it reminds me of my genetic and cultural inferiority. I just dislike my own race in general. Some of the most autistic people I know are Indian. When one of my friends disses Indians I can never win the banter because it seems like their race is completely better overall and I can't think of insults that will sting.

How can I finally gain confidence in my race and get over this? It seems like I can never be proud of my culture or racial heritage because of how bad it is. How can I win at racist banter against others? I just want to be confident in myself, but this lingering loathing won't go away.

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Abandon your race, move far away from other Indians and learn to live as an individual

You should go full Indian nobleman, wear traditional tunic and have a beard with the mustache curled up. I think that looks fucking badass and masculine

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>how to win at racist banter
Emphasize the most negative members of their society and return the banter in kind.
If they talk about curry, you talk about mayonnaise. Spoiled, stinking, festering mayo jars.
Street shitting thing is pretty nasty but this is a human issue not an Indian issue. for example the same thing occurs in american cities even today.
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And yet in America most people don't have shitted up streets but STILL squander their lives on faggotry, fentanyl, and firearms, while the Indians come to America and proceed to dominate their fields as the most highly valued, most intelligent and hardest workers. In other words they overwhelmingly lose to the street shitters once the playing field is evened.

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Tbh you're not entirely wrong

OP needs to get the whole "mystical Indian" thing going on and get his dick sucked by the depressed wanderlust Jewish girls who always travel to India to take instagram pics and get raped

Oh shut up. Become a respectable accomplisher in your own right.

Poo in loo, to begin with.

Get fukken ripped dude.

You can easily get over your racial insecurities by simply moving to India.

Then you will be just like everyone else, but probably with a western degree.

you guys are good at cricket and some of the biggest emerging financial markets in the world are in india? e.g mumbai

Are you crazy man?
You guys are hard working, and desu, you are the future of the human race ( unless we nuke each other to oblivion ).
So keep it up, don't get down, try to be positive and go for your dreams!!
( Cause we white sure af are doomed )

Eh I’m white and hate my race too. I mean I’m an accountant so I’m a functioning member of society. But hate myself and my race none the less. Typing this from doctors office waiting to be seen and get refill for my anxiety/ depression meds.

lol pajeet you will never be anything. FUCK YOU!

why do you hate white people, name a more accomplished race

Lol bro I’m guy you replied to. White people accomplished shit in my grandfathers generation. Now we suck, look at all the interracial shit involving a white girl. We can’t even keep our own race of women attracted to us in 2018.

take a vacation from pornhub and you'll feel better

it's literally just bait

>Abandon your race, move far away from other Indians and learn to live as an individual

Can confirm this works. I often forget I'm a pajeet


But some info to make you feel better:
-Arabic numerals are actually Hindi numerals
-A lot of the math advances attributed to the arabic civilization were developed by the Indian one. The Islamic civ did not create much - it simply branded other civ's advances as theirs, because they were the linguistic capital at the time and works were translated into Arabic
-Some of the most advancd centres for learning in the ancient world were in India
-The collection of states that became India generally never invaded other political units -> moral superiority
-India has been at war with Islam for centuries. No nation alive knows the civilizational destruction wrought by Islam than India. India shares the war against Islam with the West -> camaraderie
-India has a lot of poor and dumb people yes, but the relative scarcity of opportunity has lead to a culture of extreme appreciation for opportunity, etc such that the best of India's human capital generally (but not always) far outclass that of the West in terms of technical training. Look at IIT
-Buddhism, that great religion, was started in India
-Generally, India was already an advanced civilization while Caucasian societies were savages

Lmao, poo in loo pajeet!

Shows bobs and vegana bby

Fucking currynigger subhuman scum

yeah we're becoming low t, it is a problem. work out!

There is an individual and there is a group. Everyone has some bullet-point list of identities they belong to. These identities have stereotypes, and most often they are true.

Regardless, you need to maintain a sense of individualism. When someone insults your group, don't take it personally. Because it's not. Personal attacks are personal, group attacks are not. The sooner you grapple this, the quicker you'll get over your insecurity.

In some regards, you are inferior. If you weren't, then you wouldn't be having these thoughts. By reading your post, I can tell you're quite intelligent and have a head on your shoulders. Use your strength to lead your people. Set an example. If you can lift up the life of just a few Indians, then you have proven yourself superior.

There's no point in being insecure about what is true. If you are inferior in one way, and it's true, then... welcome to reality. Why feel insecure about the truth? How silly. It's basically veiled jealousy and thus evil. So stop that. Accept that other people may be better than you.

One route you can take is altruism. If you are indeed inferior, you can devote your life to others and making the world a better place for people who live above you. You can't fix your own miserable life, but you can make the world better for people who are great, so they can prosper and procreate and bring more greatness into the world. (Thus you bring more greatness in the world)

Just some things to think about.

Culture is a tool. Don't recognize it as anything else. Some cultures are more effective at doing certain things but that is all they are. Think about what has and hasn't been accomplished. What is considered "good" may have changed over time but there are still great things that have been accomplished and beautiful things within that culture. Think about the pressure on your peers, (grades, professions, finances, etc) there is a lot that your people have went through and a lot that has come out of that. Don't abandon your race but learn to see yourself through the lens of my person and my people. It's an important distinction to make. Be proud of those who have accomplished great things and learn from the mistakes of those who haven't. Every race has its own unique interactions with others surrounding it and it's own effectiveness and mentality brought about by that culture. Even in psychology personality characteristics most typically conform to that the culture has made. The big 5 in the U.S. and like 3 central ones in India. Culture isn't better or worse overall it's just better at accomplishing certain things. Find what part of that you identify with, not with the bullshit.

Group trends aren't the same as individuals, and as far as nonwhites go Pajeets are pretty based and redpilled. Just be the best person you can, and don't racemix. There's no reason to hate yourself if you do that.
Oy vey!

Me and some indian guys have a pretty active discord server if any of you need someone to talk to.

https:// discord gg/yeEY65

stay true to your ancestral traditions, Indian friend.

It's tough man, I'm Indian and I've tried to resist developing any kind of self-internalized racism but it's hard to find much that's redeeming in Indian culture, at least if you're living with the West. I distance myself from my background, I tell myself it's out of necessity to assimilate but I fear there's definitely an Uncle Tom mentality going on. Will probably struggle with this for my whole life to some extent. Who knows.

The Indians that try to assimilate are usually the worst ones.
You're not white and you never will be.

>Western culture is only for Whites

lol

Not advocating immigration, but assimilation of existing immigrants is the only way you're going to survive your 'enrichment' there, bucko

It's the exact opposite. The more they try to mix, the worse it is for both Western culture and Western genes.
I'm not telling him to be rude to everyone and only speak Hindi. But
> I distance myself from my background
is ridiculous.

cherrypicking this hard, you must be a kike

I'm a white guy and I think Indian chicks are cute mostly. Not the ones with giant noses but that doesn't seem to be the majority.

>Western genes
Lololollol

Dilute the white race. They deserve 100x worse than being fucked away

Sure thing.

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India for the Indians, China for the Chinese, Africa for the Africans, and white countries for everyone.

>but I fear there's definitely an Uncle Tom mentality going on

Uncle Tom Mentality doesn't exist. It's a rhetorical shaming tactic originally used by dusty pussy black women who are mad they can't control smart black men.

Other races have co-opted that bullshit to shame their own races when they race mix (auntie Chans for east Asian women for example)

Its all a big gaslighting festival. Now go get jacked and fuck white girls.

Why white girls, specifically?

Based. We wouldn't want to be racist, now would we?

India for the Indian, China for the Chinese, Africa for the Africans, Europe for the Europeans, America for the racemixes

Retake your homeland from the Muslims, or create a white utopia in Oregon or something. Just leave everyone else the fuck alone.

For some reason Indians are obsessed with blonde white girls. A fucking Arab, Latina or east asian girl will actually make the first move on an Indian dude but they'll dropkick anything short of an Aryan blue eyed sex doll

If he's Indian there's a 99%chancd he wants to fuck white girls

Because he's either baiting or posting from a synagogue.
That's all the white ethnostate means. I've yet to come across anyone seriously entertaining the idea of kicking out 150 million nonwhites/mutts from the US.

Why is American, what was originally built by and for white people, supposed to submit to this racemixing bullshit?

Focus on taking Europe back from the Muslims. America is the last of your problems desu

Cultural assimilation, not genetic

But even in case of genetic, tightly controlled, limited immigration will increase likelihood of pool improvement via high quality genes.

Cultural assimilation is mandatory for all immigrants. Genetic integration is fine in small amounts.

>Just leave everyone else the fuck alone
We wouldnt be in this situation to begin with if you had left white people alone. The holocaust never happened, but I sure as hell wish it had.

You took this land from brown people, now brown people take land from you

If you don't like it take it back

That's how it goes

We have to put the mutts somewhere. They can have California, and Latin America is still America (which may have been what user was referring to, mostly).
The issue is that without the US being at the very least isolationist, the government would bomb anyone opposing their own replacement in Europe.

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Yeah, we pushed a few thousand savages off their land. Literally where did every other country come from? Was everyone born there and never moved? China is fucking massive. You can't tell me there wasn't some serious conquest going on there.

>That's all the white ethnostate means. I've yet to come across anyone seriously entertaining the idea of kicking out 150 million nonwhites/mutts from the US.

You WN's have too much pride and ego. There's massive chunks of land in where whites could settle exclusively, shut borders and be happy.

The problem is you refuse to concede areas where non-whites live. And you're obsessed with taking non-white dominated cities.

White nationalists will bitch and moan about not being able to settle in Los fucking Angeles because of spices and completely ignore the PNW

California is already lost. The west is burning. I only hope enough wake up before it's too late.

>limited immigration will increase likelihood of pool improvement via high quality genes.
This is a meme, even Iceland is managing fine (very low rates of inbreeding) and they had a minuscule starting population. To a nation of millions it's either going to have no effect or be a negative, and the brain drain on shitholes caused by "high quality" immigration is guaranteed to hurt the countries they're coming from. The only ones who benefit from this kind of mixing are the international power brokers that hate seeing a parallel structure to their own control, be it national, racial, or religious.

Cultural assimilation is mandatory in the case of immigrants, yes, but immigrants with separate genetics shouldn't be there in the first place.

The browns taking the land aren't the same ones that had it taken away. And on that note, to this day the natives are allowed to dictate tribal membership (and benefits thereof) by "blood quantum" laws. In other words, they are literally defined in genetic terms. It's laughable to think whites anywhere will get the same treatment after their countries have been demographically obliterated.

And all the ones whites had have been subverted by jews and sold out to the globohomo gayplex.
Flood the whole world with subhuman economic migrants who can't into civilization and give them bread and circuses. Line your pockets and live in the gated communities away from the brown hoards.

If white people are so racist and evil, why does everyone else want in their countries so badly?

>It's laughable to think whites anywhere will get the same treatment after their countries have been demographically obliterated.

I highly doubt thats the case.

Who wants to move to Poland? I don't

They want white people to die and they think it's funny.

>There's massive chunks of land in where whites could settle exclusively, shut borders and be happy.
I fucking wish, man. Don't put words in my mouth.
If the powers at large made a single tiny state, just large enough to be self-sufficient, and designated it an ethnostate I'd imagine over half of the white nationalists in the US would be happy and let it go. The thing is that not only is the US targeted, but homogenous white countries are as well, and then once nonwhites are forced down their throats (recall the Blairite government in the UK gloating about "rubbing the right's nose in diversity"), people whine about proposals to send them back.

The US itself, aside from the absolute disaster both morally and practically of slavery, was a practical white ethnostate until 1965, with the Hart-Celler act. And you know what its proponents said about it? "This is not a revolutionary bill. It will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not disrupt the ethnic balance of our country". The country was 90% white when it passed. Now it's barely a majority, even including Jews and MENAs classified as white on the census.

>look at all the interracial shit involving a white girl
this is literally incorrect, black guys date white girls at the same rate that white guys date asian girls and asian girls rarely date black guys. when your culture rewards intelligence instead of strength and violence, your culture becomes less masculine and it's not bad a thing.

Scotland

99% white

There is a reason for it though lads

>just large enough to be self-sufficient, and designated it an ethnostate I'd imagine over half of the white nationalists in the US would be happy and let it go.

>well be targeted

I honestly don't believe for a second that if white nationalists as a group said "give us this land, we will leave you alone, you leave us alone, deal?" anyone would be mad. You don't like non-whites and cucked whites and they don't like you.

Go your separate ways and things will be fine. Nobody's going to flood you with migrants. Nobody is going to try and invade you.

Yeah, they'll never let it happen because they literally think it will be the next shoah.

Normal people won't, you're right, but normal people also don't feel threatened by current power structures, and those at the top absolutely loathe the idea of a white ethnostate.
The best argument I've come across with left-leaning types is "do you want to live next to racists? No? Then why not let the racists leave?" It at the very least makes them think.

But even that will only go so far when they see "racism" as the cardinal sin to be destroyed, thanks to decades of indoctrination. That's actually the reason one of them gave for not supporting an ethnostate established by completely peaceful means: "we can't let people be racist like that". It's not logical at all, but it's what we're stuck with because very powerful people have a vested interest in keeping things like that.

I'm all for parting ways, I don't care if a bunch of people genuinely love the cosmopolitan lifestyle, as long as white countries exist and aren't scorned for existing.

>and the brain drain on shitholes caused by "high quality" immigration is guaranteed to hurt the countries they're coming from.
I don't particularly care. I want the best for the West.
>but immigrants with separate genetics shouldn't be there in the first place.
There's the discrepancy - your position is zero immigration; I don't mind [strongly] limited, selective immigration. I don't see how limited genetic integration (of selected, hypothetically positive) genes can be bad. At worst it'll be inconsequential as you stated, and it won't represent an existential racial threat. But in any case, I don't care about racial purity - only genetic superiority defined by performance. I'd rather have a half-white-half-pajeet high-functioning person than a genetically deformed pure aryan.

>I'm all for parting ways, I don't care if a bunch of people genuinely love the cosmopolitan lifestyle, as long as white countries exist and aren't scorned for existing.

That's the best solution we're gonna get. I still think you overestimate how threatened non-WN's would be by a white ethnostate but it is what it is

I'm Indian but also my ancestors were enslaved (by you-know-who) so I'm even worse than you. I don't really care about the achievements of my ancestors, I just wish I had a defensible position instead being inferior from an objective standpoint.

Assimilate into Latin American culture

I am malay and I respect Indians, cause they produced a mathematician called Ramanujan.. be proud of your race, bro. Not one race is better than the other, but each race has their own speciality :^D

I'm learning Russian then Japanese and then Spanish.

I live in Mexican Vil California so that shows my priorities to my brown brothers. Not important- English first, but I will meet halfway and make some kind of effort if need be.

>each race has their own speciality :^D

Real life isn't like skyrim

The thing is that homogeneity will be undermined and forever tenuous. If you can't define immigration at its source in genetic terms, you have no mechanism to limit it, and therefore no guarantee it will stay "highly selective" for long, especially when you take into consideration the pressures of both industry (which wants cheap labor) and politics (i.e. importing votes, as seen by the trend across the entirety of the West with Labor parties abandoning the white working class and relying instead on nonwhite immigrants).

The best for the West is a strong and unified society, which is by definition shattered with the atomization brought by """diversity""". It's also not solely about individuals--a society comprised only of geniuses with 140+ IQ's would probably be worse than one with a bell curve around 100, because there has to be a division of roles--"they do the jobs we don't want to" actually has some merit, except in this case it's not question of artificially depressed wages like with modern immigrant labor, but a simple question of suitability. At its worst, the importation of "high quality" foreigners will literally be inviting in a foreign ruling class, which is pure insanity for any group. Furthermore, improvement within a group is fully possible, and the group will not be damaged. Genetic damage, on the other hand, is cumulative. You can weed out disorders and encourage the best to reproduce--Down Syndrome is almost gone in Iceland, for example.

Normal people, left to their own devices, aren't threatened. I'm not debating that. But those who have the means to crush the ethnostate will, and they'd deploy all the stops in their propaganda to make normal people hate it, too.

>The best for the West is a strong and unified society, which is by definition shattered with the atomization brought by """diversity""".

Can't be diverse if you're all racemixed into one

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This isn't me

>At its worst, the importation of "high quality" foreigners will literally be inviting in a foreign ruling class, which is pure insanity for any group.

This is why I am going to Russia. I'll tell Anastasia you said hellow boys ; )

Tell that to the architects of mass immigration.

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Hitler, What do you think of me a Member of the American Aristocracy going to Russia to mate?

They are more pure-bread after all. I wonder what will happen when I get a whitey tighty girlfriend calling me her nigga (I'm white)

I'm half Russian, and I wouldn't recommend it. Communism turned it into a wasteland, and they haven't really recovered.
If you want a mentally unstable gold digger, you'll have fun, but otherwise good luck.

The fuck you on about OP? The only shit thing about Indians is the God awful accent. Everything else is fine. There's some hot Indian chicks, but that accent is the turn off.

Fuck man

I guess I'll go full humanitarian then

sihki is okay, but race doesnt mean anything stop listening to pol, its a neo nazi hotpot run by mossad.

>t. retard

You know why normal non-nazis like yourself are racist? Because foreigners don't assimilate to the host culture. That's were 99% of racism stems from. No one cares that Indians look a little different(they're dark Caucasians), it's the cultural stereotype behind them that people don't like

>people don't assimilate

Many immigrants TRY to assimilate. Usually it's their parents who fuck with them and force them.

Arab families in Germany have this problem. Arab son/daughter grows up in Germany, speaking German, wants to have boyfriends and girlfriends, go clubbing, drink and so haram shit like all other Germans

Parents beat the fuck out of the kids for being haram. Kids try and run to the cops but German law doesn't allow them to protect the child from the parents.

Parents send kids back to Arab country to be "disciplined" daughters forcefully get married off to some loser. Boys get radicalized and join ISIS cause they just wanted to go to berghain like all the other kids


If countries are actually serious about the kids assimilating they need to get involved in family life and provide protection for the kids and punish the parents for fuckery.

but those are Muslims who have the religious barrier to break if they want to fully assimilate. Many when they grow up and leave their parent's house do fully assimilate. In America, Indian and Asian people do westernize quicker and easier.

But if an ethnic person has the same culture and values, the only difference is how they look. That just boils it down to lookism. Like hating men who are under 5'9'' or men that are balding. Look at Italians, more specifically Sicilians. They were considered not white for the longest time. And many people of southern Italian descendant do look ethnic almost Arab looking. They are fully considered white in America because they assimilated into society despite looking different.

East Asians are doing that right now and I think if Indians assimilate more culturally they to can in the future.

But the second picture is literally America. There is a reason people on the internet call america "muttland". Everyone is mixed, and americans do have a unique look that comes from mixing European ethnicites into one. You can't say a Greek, French, or Scandinavian person all look the same because they have white skin (and the Greek person has darker skin). They all look very different but when mixed all they have for an identity is "white". Only in mixed societies is white a form of identity. Look at Europe. Every country has national and ethnic pride and considers other Europeans as different. In England, polish people and other slavs are looked down upon and treated different than native English people.

this

Being a fucking spic is way worse, I totally hate being one. I'm from Brazil and I think brazilians are disgusting, we re so disgusting that no one property respect us , or have good impressions about us. As a Brazilian I think that if I lived in a developed country I would try to be the most perfect person so no one would suspect im from this hellhole

In the US at least Indians are stereotyped as being super smart and hardworking.

You can play up the positive stereotypes but if you don't meet expectations people might judge you.

>The thing is that homogeneity will be undermined and forever tenuous. If you can't define immigration at its source in genetic terms, you have no mechanism to limit it,
You have: education; economic worth; physical health; skill-shortage relevance.
And genetic discrimination is not necessarily off the table either. For example, limitations on immigration from the Middle East specifically due to well established observation of defects in those pools due to centuries of inbreeding (notwithstanding the extremely pertinent cultural issues).

>and therefore no guarantee it will stay "highly selective" for long, especially when you take into consideration the pressures of both industry (which wants cheap labor) and politics (i.e. importing votes, as seen by the trend across the entirety of the West with Labor parties abandoning the white working class and relying instead on nonwhite immigrants).
Fair point; granted. Though really this is only a problem because the Radical Left exists. Defeat that ideology and the impetus for these diminish - at least in the context of politics.

>The best for the West is a strong and unified society, which is by definition shattered with the atomization brought by """diversity""".
Diversity of culture is the issue. Diversity of race is not - beyond genetic risk factors as mentioned above. As has been mentioned in this thread by others, European states/peoples have historically hated each others guts, despite being generally racially homogenous among the groups involved. The same can be said for every other major racial group in history amongst their political and cultural units.

..cont.

>It's also not solely about individuals--a society comprised only of geniuses with 140+ IQ's would probably be worse than one with a bell curve around 100,
This is extremely unlikely to occur from highly limited immigration. But engaging the point as an aside: the issue of the division of labour would almost certainly be solved by a population with an average IQ of 140 - with or without a bell curve distribution. It would probably be solved *robustly* too. The difference between such a society and, say, the current West would be like the difference between Germany and Australian Aboriginal tribes.

>Furthermore, improvement within a group is fully possible, and the group will not be damaged
Granted, but irrelevant: I'm not arguing immigration is necessary or mandatory - only that highly limited, controlled immigration is acceptable.

...cont.

>It's also not solely about individuals--a society comprised only of geniuses with 140+ IQ's would probably be worse than one with a bell curve around 100,
This is extremely unlikely to occur from highly limited immigration. But engaging the point as an aside: the issue of the division of labour would almost certainly be solved by a population with an average IQ of 140 - with or without a bell curve distribution. It would probably be solved *robustly* too. The difference in problem-solving ability between such a society and, say, the current West would be like the difference between Germany and Australian Aboriginal tribes.

>Furthermore, improvement within a group is fully possible, and the group will not be damaged
Granted, but irrelevant: I'm not arguing immigration is necessary or mandatory - only that highly limited, controlled immigration is acceptable.

>You have: education; economic worth; physical health; skill-shortage relevance
All of these are mushy--you can use them to justify a given limit, but they aren't limiting in and of themselves, which is the issue. I think we're arguing the same point here, to a degree--I'm not saying that your idea of sharply limited immigration is intolerable, I'm saying I have little faith in it being sustainable.

>Though really this is only a problem because the Radical Left exists.
The latter one, probably, but cheap labor is something which has existed long before that--slavery is a glaring example of that, and it had nothing to do with leftism. In South Africa, apartheid only happened as such because the industrialists wanted the labor pool. The "purist" faction wanted fully separate nations from the get-go. Also, part of the power of the left stems from its unceasing use of emotional appeals to whip up support. If you only view a society in terms of its production, and people as cogs in a machine without a higher aspiration, you're going to have a difficult time displacing the leftists. I'm not suggesting nationalism is the only way to do that, of course, but it certainly is a way.

>Diversity of culture is the issue. Diversity of race is not
It depends what you're after--and in most cases, both will be an issue, unless your ideal is a fully atomized society that aimlessly consumes, which I doubt is the case.

>As has been mentioned in this thread by others, European states/peoples have historically hated each others guts, despite being generally racially homogenous among the groups involved.
And this gets worse the more apparent the divisions in society are. It's already been shown in multiple nationwide sociological surveys that even controlling for nebulous "culture", visible 'diversity' is a downside to social cohesion in itself, to say nothing of the wider effects that telling people their identity is meaningless has.

> the issue of the division of labour would almost certainly be solved by a population with an average IQ of 140
Not really what I meant--in the coming years we're going to see this happen anyway, with increased automation. My point was that it's not ideal to view things in individual terms of capability when speaking about society as a whole. Another thing to note would be that the very intelligent individuals of history were largely capable of making their mark thanks to the long-term stability and structuring of their societies. Embracing an ideal which rejects society as an entity worth preserving in itself is at the very least going to be risky.

>I'm not arguing immigration is necessary or mandatory - only that highly limited, controlled immigration is acceptable.
That's what I thought. I don't mean to be overly confrontational, we agree on most things anyway and I just tend to type this way. Thanks for responding and keeping it civil.

you can tell the banter hit home when people start naming the jew instead of bantering back

Not gonna lie man, you are justified. I hate your race too. I work in LA and have met just about every race under the sun and indians are always the worst. My best advice would be to distance yourself from the culture, lose the accent and try to act as white as you can, maybe people will forget