I have a friend who's basically become my girlfriend at this point, but she refuses to admit it. She's moved in plenty of her clothes, makeup and belongings in my apartment and comes over whenever she likes, I gave her a spare key. Whenever we're together we have very frequent, crazy sex, sometimes for over an hour. And then we'll do comfy stuff together like snuggling, watching tv together, cooking and eating together. We've been seeing each other for 4 months now.
She says our relationship is entirely about sex, but I know she likes me for more than just that. She tells me frequently that if I didn't have a large penis and knew how to fuck hard, she probably would have never wanted anything to do with me. She says I'm a weirdo nerd and thinks "It's not fair" that she can have such incredible sex with someone she isn't compatible with otherwise. Honestly I feel like we get along pretty well despite some disagreements. But it really does feel like we've basically become a couple, and she's afraid to admit it.
Am I just being crazy for thinking this is a strange arrangement and that she just isn't admitting that we're pretty much a couple now? Am I justified in feeling a bit upset about this? She behaves as if I'm her dirty little secret or something. Pic related is her body type, skin tone and hairstyle.
It's called "friends with benefits". Doesn't matter how often she comes around or how long she stays, since you're apparently fine with it.
She's not afraid to admit it, you've just caught feelings and now you're angry she doesn't feel the same way about you.
Jackson Walker
>Pic related is her body type, skin tone and hairstyle. That's redundant, 'cause it's obvious your mistress is a hoe.
Dylan Scott
Stand your ground, take back the spare key and give her an ultimatum, if its bothering you this much tell her
Brandon Hill
You charted into the friends with benefits terrority. If you ever like a girl and caught yourself catching feelings earlier, you have to make your intentions clear - lucid. You became to complicent to where she reign the relationship you desire, I dunno, maybe decline the sex as often as possible. Take her on causual dates. Reclaim the spare key. Or, even stay at friends houses ever once in a while because absensce of the heart make it grow fonder. Normalize the relationship to where it feel like a healthy relationshio and not some fucked up sex fueled relationship.
Jose Clark
>Am I justified in feeling a bit upset about this? Sure you can feel upset about it but she doesn't see you as boyfriend material and doesn't want to be your girlfriend and I think it is better for you to accept that than to try and coax a relationship out of her.
Jack Anderson
My advice is you're both broken as fuck millennials that are the cancer claiming Western civilisation that need to grow up and realise romantic comedy love isn't a thing and if you can cohabitate with someone and get attracted to them then you should be in a bloody relationship and the only thing stopping you is how emotionally numb you are and off living in a stupid, idealistic movie world that doesn't exist. It's as much your fault for getting into this arrangement thinking you wouldn't 'catch feelings' (lol, what a concept, more like afraid to face your own feelings from the get-go) as hers for being unable to commit.
You need to stop being taken advantage of by a broken millennial and being a broken millennial at the same time.
Caleb Watson
>muh relationships >muh monogamy >muh love peak boomer >it's other people who live in a fantasy world from the movies
Jonathan Ortiz
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Also OP is a collosal fag who gives a set a keys of his home for a woman who dosen't even respects him.
Owen Lewis
I mean, she is pretty respectful of me in the sense that she never messes with anything I own, she's actually given me money to help with rent, she'll help me if I need it in terms of cooking, cleaning or helping to care for me when I'm sick. She never forces me to have sex with her or anything like that, but makes it clear that when I have the energy and am in a good mood, she'd be happy to get fucked by me. Honestly, she feels like a very good friend who's over time, become more than a friend. Part of why I gave her a spare key is because she comes from a pretty abusive household as is trying to find a new apartment to live. Whenever she needs to get away, I want her to be able to feel safe coming to my place to sleep or cook or whatever she needs to do.
I guess what I'm saying is, even if she doesn't call me her boyfriend, she does respect me strongly as a friend and a sex partner and never makes me feel humiliated or like I'm being taken advantage of in some way.
Hudson Wilson
>I mean, I guess she's pretty respectful of me Has a key and comes round whenever she wants to get fucked by a huge dick
DURR MY PENIS IS BIG, GIB HELP fucking kill yourself asshole
Gavin Butler
who cares? literally what changes the minute she admits "you're my bf"? just enjoy her nigga damn
Cooper Hughes
What size is your penis OP I am curious. Also got any pics
Leo Smith
>muh hedonism >muh no accountability, even to my own feelings >muh confusion as to where we are and non-problems baww baww baww >omg my life is just like Friends
Unironically. P e a k. M i l l e n n i a l.
Michael Reyes
It's close to 8 inches. I would post pics but I've gotten banned doing that. I wish I could show you this fun video we made last night of her double hand stroking me, even with both hands wrapped around me, there was still some extra shaft and the head sticking out.
She's kind of awesome, she'll suck me or give me a handjob while I sit bsck, smoke a spliff, watch tv, play DOOM on my Switch or whatever.
Borderline Personality Disorder Prooced's at your own risk
Connor Murphy
She's really not. She dresses very conservatively outside of my apartment, that dark skinned 2B anime image fit what she looks like in her underwear. Even in my apartment usually the skimpiest she'll dress is a croptop or just chilling in her panties with a tshirt.
Also she doesn't really hoe around like that. We're very monogamous, she even showed me all the messages on dating apps she ignores completely from other guys. Given both of our work schedules and the fact that we spend almost every spare moment together, I don't see how she could be cheating on me. Hell, I've been tempted to cheat with some of my horny exes and chose not to cause I value our relationship. I mean, where else am I gonna find a girl who wants to fuck for over an hour and then wants to smoke weed and play Pokemon together afterwards? I consider myself a lucky guy.
Post the vid on the pics or just upload them to Mega and link here
Lincoln Rogers
>girl who wants to fuck for over an hour and then wants to smoke weed and play Pokemon together afterwards where did you meet her senpai?
Jason Perez
Not him but you can find those types of girls on any dating site. Make sure you have weed though because in the beginning that's -all- they will care about.
Jason Adams
Why are you so keen on labeling it. It sounds like you are both in a comfortable position. Give it time see where it leads you.
desu she really cared about getting fucked as hard as possible the first day we met. she partakes in blazing with me because I'm a daily weed smoker and she finds she gets super horny when stoned.
I just hate feeling like a walking talking dildo. Like I know she cares about me, but she's not that great at showing it. She's not comfortable introducing me to her friends or meeting mine. After a while, being praised for your sexual prowess only boosts your self esteem so much.
I know how you feel user. I had a friend who suggested I spank her because she wanted to try it out. This led to us doing a lot of kinky stuff and testing out fetishes and having sex but she said she had no interest in me beyond as a friend. I thought to myself "We can change that! Once she sees what a great guy I am she's bound to fall for me eventually"
That was four years ago. Nothing has changed about our arrangement at all. Actually I just broke it off 5 months ago so I could focus on myself and meeting new girls because this was leading nowhere.
Aiden Young
OK man here you go. There's not much so don't get your hopes up, just a few random videos of me showing off my cock I used to send to girls to get laid. Also there's pictures of this one random blonde milf I used to smash before I met this girl, I like the picture because she squirted so hard it completely ruined my bedsheets. The brown girl is the one I'm seeing now who's basically become my girlfriend. There's a couple videos of her toying with my cock too. I've been asking her since the first day we met to let me film her getting fucked, but she adamantly refuses every time because she works for the local school board. But there you go.
4 years... holy shit. I can't imagine being in this kind of arrangement for that long and never catching feelings. Can guys do this too? So far I feel like I've just heard stories about girls doing this.
I don't get how women think at all. I feel like us men naturally over time, inevitably, if we fuck someone over and over and over for a long period of time, eventually we'll catch feelings. Somehow I wonder if this same arrangement will end up the same way.
I guess I enjoy the sex, the companionship and all that, but it just feels so disrespectful when I can't even introduce my family to the person I'm spending all my time with because apparently despite providing her a place to live, food, sex, comfort and entertainment, and in her own words the best sex she's ever had, somehow I'm STILL not good enough to be her boyfriend.
Honestly I'm beginning to think I'm John Redcorn or something. It's like women choose a HUSBAND or BOYFRIEND based on criteria that seemingly has nothing to do with sex, and everything to do with impressing their friends and family members, finding someone who can provide X amount of income every month, who drives Y type of car, lives in Z neighbourhood, etc. That's why she says things like "It's not fair..." when we have sex. Because in her eyes it's not fair that I've sexually satisfied her more than every man she's ever met, but her retarded fucking womanhood forbids her from letting us do normal ass things like hanging out together with my friends, or her friends, or inviting her over to Christmas dinner like a normal person. Because apparently I'm not some perfect image of what her boyfriend is "supposed" to be. That's why I'm so upset, that's why I made this thread. Cause the way it's going I feel like I'm always going to be that guy jumping out of the window, there to fulfill sexual and companionship needs, but never actually being an official part of her life.
>it's it a relationship? Would she being you soup when you're sick? Would you bring her soup? That's the litmus test.
Ayden Lewis
bump
Noah Nguyen
You shouldn't equate your feelings and experiences to all men. There are men who can't fall in love easily, and there are women who fall in love after a one night stand.
Lucas Gonzalez
Let Me explain something to you. When a woman says something, she means it. 100% when they say shit like that they mean it. The second she finds a guy who is her type and into her, she’ll be gone.
So here’s what you do. Keep fucking her as you please, don’t get attached to her. Prepare yourself for her to just fuckin disappear one day.
Luke Johnson
Reminds me of this hot 20 year old blonde that ended up sleeping on my couch for a few days and eventually started sleeping in my bed and ended up fucking a bunch. She was a snake and I was a rat being swallowed alive. But I didn't mind one bit. Then a few days later she said goodbye and I haven’t seen her since. I knew this girl for a week and completely fell in love with her. I remember grocery shopping and making dinners with her, and watching shooting stars in a hottub at night.
Andrew Edwards
She thinks you're a weirdo and you already have disagreements this early in the "relationship". You can provide for her, obviously better than she gets at home, but she still doesn't want you to be her boyfriend. It's not about your income.
Robert Taylor
That gives me feels for OP. It’s essentially a Lose lose situation for him.
Nathaniel Jenkins
You are a toy, OP. Your friend does not see long-term potential in you. Savor what you've got til it lasts - pressure her and this will sooner end.
Elijah Hernandez
>OP is black Do you think her friends/family/herself is a little racist? Maybe she doesn't want to be seen with a black guy.
Zachary Walker
We're technically the same race but my skin is darker than hers. I don't know if her family is racist against darker skinned guys but I don't know. She is literally brown herself.
She has done this for me already.
You fell in love after a week? That's kind of weird man. Even the feelings I have for this girl I've been fucking for 4 months I wouldn't call "love", more an attachment that would naturally develop after spending so much time living with someone.
Ethan Morris
You gotta jettison my man. Been in a similar predicament and it took me to my lowest low when she cut it off. You will feel worthless, unwanted and broken when she's done with you. Not to say she's a bad girl, she just wants some good dick and you've got it, but you have to realise your own value and walk away to avoid the pain.
Charles Long
I heard the soup question from a relationship therapist, who usually used it with people who couldn't figure out if what they had was a relationship (cuz tinder). Most were like, "ew no".
For what it's worth my gf says she knew she loved me in the first month we met. I told her I loved her after six weeks, because I felt it. I couldn't say if she really doesn't feel it, but the fact she denies it makes me think she's still angling for something better. And you have no reason to take that, that's not right.
Jordan Diaz
"Who cares" you mean YOU don't care, OP obviously cares he has his heart in her hands now.. Poor man, it's a tough arrangement but I'll tell you what OP There's two ways this goes, either you decide to be content with the situation and thereby continue to have a good time with this girl without bitching and whining over wanting to be with her - or, you decide that you aren't okay with this, and lay it down to her that you love her now as a friend, as well as a sexual partner, tell her that you do everything together and you really want to be together because you pretty much are at this point. If she refuses then tell her that it pains you that she doesn't want you back because now you have those feelings for her, and admit to her that you can't control them anymore and you feel like it they're not reciprocated you won't be able to continue this friends with benefits relationship with her, if she still refuses at this point then tell her you can give her time to think and message you when she's made up her mind, then try to keep away from her as much as you can and give her time to think.
And this is the part where she'll go home realizing what she's lost, and she'll look back and think, do the pros outweigh the cons with this guy? Am I really okay with being alone now and losing him or do I take the leap? And that's when she'll make her decision.
Don't be weak, realize that there are only two ways this goes and this is what you have to do.
Also this guy is right on like so many levels, 300000% , you're broken as fuck for agreeing to fuck someone who doesn't respect you and she is broken, and a leech, for taking so much from you and not even in a relationship with you
Jordan Reyes
I guess you're right, this is what I'll have to do eventually. But I mean, it's hard for me to rock the boat.. she wants to come over and have sex so often sometimes I have to tell her I'm too tired or just not feeling well because, I'm actually too tired or something. We have such good times together most of the time, only when I bring up the nature of our relationship do things go sour. I will talk to her soon, but for a little while longer I'd rather just enjoy this weird happy state we're both in at the moment. She really hasn't taken that much from me, she's bought me food many times, helped me pay rent, taken care of me when sick, cooked and cleaned for me. She's really nice, I think she just has a hard time saying she's in a relationship after her former fiance cheated on her. But it's true, I'm not happy with things being they are and need to have a talk.
Colton Murphy
This.
She has all the power. If you're honest, she's getting exactly what she wants on her terms while you're basically settling. It will hit you like a ton of bricks how true this is when she casually walks away from the situation on a whim.
Luis Cruz
I think it's time you walk away.
It sounds toxic as fuck. Yeah sure. Her bouncing on your dick, probably sucking it is nice and all... but what she said. Is 100% legit and you're the one who's in huge denial and under her big fat toe.
Listen OP... by the way it sounds, she's pretty much your master and you are her bitch/slave. Either play with her mind, don't let her in that easily anymore, don't give her dick anymore (make her beg for it a little), don't be her emotional toy anymore, or just quit it.
At this rate, NOTHING is bound to happen between the 2 of you, nothing at all. You are just giving her a lot of free shit and she's not returning the favor with anything. If she by any chance has the audacity to say "I'm sucking your dick & swallowing and fucking you like crazy, what are you on about", you be a big boy and man the fuck up and tell her that she's also getting enjoyment from it, it's not a one side thing that miraculously "just werks", you both fuck, not just you, not just her.
And just end it. She's literally becoming a basic bitch by the second & is already probably damaged into thinking she's tough shit and worth it. When she's not.
What I would do? I would fuck her hard, HARD one last time. I mean, as hard as hard can get. And right after that, take a deep breathe and just tell her in the calmest possible voice "get out". The obvious "what, whut, why" will follow. I will just continue with "I said, get out" in the same exact tone. If she's going to continue with "what the fuck is wrong with you", I'd just get up, get a pair of pants on me, get her clothes off the floor and throw them right at her and tell her "you have 2 minutes before I throw you out butt naked". She'll most likely start to turbo dress up and be as confused as possible.
By the time she gets out, close the door calmly & let her flee. I would then write her a short message on fb/insta/twitter whatever you're using.
Luis Bell
"I asked you to be my girl. Was ready to give my everything to you over & over again, you didn't show me the same kindness so that was it. I changed my keys so don't bother coming back. You're trash.". And just block her.
At this point, her head would be a new level of fucked. She'd most likely be so confused she would not be able to comprehend what the hell is going on with you and why you're acting this way. She'll most likely behave like it's a phase and in max one week you're back begging for forgiveness. You'll not be begging for shit. You won't talk. Only after like 2 to 6 months be willing to catch a cup of tea or coffee together.
When (if) that will happen, gain control. Be spontaneous, behave like your time is expensive, don't waste time on little talk, be right there in her face talk about how she's been, how you've been and then act like you got shit to do. If she hangs onto you, that is it. Feelings will start working on her side.
However... one twist. You gotta play the "busy alpha male" card constantly else she'll instantly lose interest in you and it will be forever done, no more coming back, no more second chance.
If she never calls after this, never despair, she's a cunt. She has to be thought a lesson. Being a cunt who thinks she deserves anything just because of the vagina between her legs does not deserve YOU. And fuck her. Get a real girl that is willing to not only suck your dick but be with you. Stop being a 3rd wheel you dipshit.
It's dudes like you who annoy me the most. You have a girthy dick that can destroy women's brains and you decide to be submissive. Man the fuck up, grow the fuck up and start handling your shit, bitch.
Else stop crying for insignificant women who discovered your weak spots and who are actively using them against you. Like giving you pussy and expecting your house/self/money in return. Pussy is weak, pussy is stupid & useless, all women have it. The instant you'll understand this, you'll have power.
Kevin Bennett
Looks like you made up your mind man, I'm glad to help, and I mean I feel you it's really hard to turn down sex especially when it's great and offered to you so often and with great care.. but again, whenever you choose to have that talk be clear with her and know why you're doing it and make your intentions clear.. It's important for protocol, you never know she might just ponder over what she's lost and make a surprising choice, hoping for the best for you but either way don't be weak, if you make a choice stick to it. If you choose to stay - don't whine, and if you choose to have the talk - prepare for the possibility of you two not meeting anymore but keep up with your decision even if sex with her is everything you'd want when she's gone, and trust me either way whether she comes back or not you'll be the man for taking the right steps, it's your self respect bro you better keep it whole. Good luck again brother :)
Kevin Rodriguez
Yeah, I really don't want to do any of that's It's really nice coming home to cooked dinners and hot sex right after work, weekends spent having sex to two snd a half episodes of Two and a Half Men, and like I said I really don't think I'm being taken advantage of. She buys ME dinner more often than the other way around, gives me money randomly, buys random things for my apartment, we play Nintendo Switch games together, she's pretty cool.
I don't feel like either of us dominates the other, except in bed where she loves being dom'd. In real life, we're pretty comfy. I think I'd just like it if she wanted something more serious, but you can't force it.
...Sigh. I get it. You're in mad love and you're probably a virgin (emotionally).
At this point, she dominates you, A LOT more than you dominate her.
Sex life domination is not "domination". In bed, it's just play. In real life it's where actions state the status. And right now.... you're the woman and she's the man (no offense). Her buying you dinner? Her dominating you in bed...? Her telling you to piss off with the silly shit (relationship) yet is still ok with coming inside the home and just fucking you?
It's things like these that make us men. When your father/mother/pal told you something, you didn't really understand until you hit yourself on the head and it hurt like a fat bitch. So this will be yours.
One day she'll just disappear completely randomly.
Also, please... you've been pathetic the whole thread. Stop being in this massive denial "in real life we're pretty comfy". No. You're comfy. She's just enjoying herself as much as she can with somebody she's comfortable around. The second she finds that manlet she's seeking for who can take her of her brain as well as her pussy, you're out of the picture on turbo mode.
I just pity the fact that you're so into it. You'll feel a HUGE hole in your soul after she'll ditch you.
Charles Fisher
Outta all the walls of text in this thread I think OP you either just gotta find your balls and accept the casual sex for what it is and find someone else
Or
Admit that you're not really weathered by life enough and tell her straight up that you don't want(well,you probably do,you just can't emotionally handle it) a friend like her.
It's quite amusing actually how easy it is to capture such a girl in your own life (as in, marry her) yet you're completely oblivious to it.
Another way to secure it all to yourself is by getting in another relationship. Just send her a text telling her that your gf is coming over and will stay for the week and the 2 of you should lay low.
If she has feelings for you but was keeping you on a short leash, she'll be amazed and probably upset (moment where the talk will come and you'll tell her that hey dumbass, you were never in a relationship with me, I moved on, so should you) and ... she'll want you. She will want you hard and she'll agree to a relationship afterwards.
But eh. Stick to your side of the story. You didn't come here for advice, you came here to hear what you wanted to hear. You wanted us telling you that it's fine and it will all go swell.
Well tough luck buddy. 15 years of relationships thought me a lot more than to believe some pussy will do the trick right now in your stage.
Easton Allen
You again? Just cut contact you pathetic piece of shit. You know what to do. Just do it and stop reposting your story about fucking a girl and how bad that makes you feel
Aiden Baker
The guy is just a pathetic sack of shit.
All he does is repost this sad story wanting us to tell him that his current relationship is extremely healthy and adequate and is too much of a many baby to realize that it's empty, stupid and he's the bitch in the situation.
Let the guy be. He's most likely lying about dick size and all that jazz. May just be some fat ass with small dick & a lot of money and he found some dumb bitch fucking him & dominating him hard and he wants to justify it on 4chin.
God damn loser is in such a level of denial, I'm impressed.
Bentley Bell
>He's most likely lying about dick size He posted pics of it earlier and sorta,kinda. It's wide but it's not that big. Pretty average really. The girl just probably never had a good lay because she looks like a latina so she goes after latinos who tend to have small dicks.
Easton Myers
I'm dead.
So let me get this straight. The guy thinks he's big and the girl told him that and now the guy also thinks she's after him for the dick?
Holy delusional. Poor bastard is in for a treat.
Xavier Bell
Honestly my biggest problem has been not cheating, cause I've had a lot of temptation too. One time I even told her I was thinking of meeting some girls I messaged (which was true) and she freaked out and got very upset with me. I even invited a girl over thinking I'd smash her, but found I wasn't that into it, very awkward actually. Most of the time I'll just send random girls on dating apps or facebooks pics and vids of myself stroking and they'll offer to meet at my place.
I think making this thread has made me realize I'm pretty happy with how things are. The truth is she has a lot of personality problems too, and while she's a great help to me sometimes I really don't know if she's relationship material. I just am not sure how much fun I'd have outside of the bedroom with some of these girls. I know hanging out with her is fun even if we don't have sex. And when we don't have sex, it's always because I wasn't in the mood, never the other way around. I'll keep smashing her out and enjoying weekends and the random smashes until I find something better. I really don't want to "marry her" or something.
Also lol'd at the comment about her being a latina used to small dicks. She's South Asian Guyanese like me, we're the same ethnicity but she's a little darker. She's said she dated nearly exclusively white dudes before she met me.
And the fact is, every single person I've shown my cock to was impressed by it and every girl I've ever had sex with since a teen cums on it at least a few times during sex. I honestly didn't even realize I had a big cock until college when I noticed a pattern of EVERY girl I ever had sex with telling me how big my dick is and how good it felt inside them. Once I started sending girls cock pics, getting laid became MUCH easier. To think, I could have gotten way more ass in high school if I just sent a lot more dick pics. Water under the bridge, I suppose.
I'm literally impressed at how aware you are of the situation yet you are still trying to defend her.
Mate, I'm trying way too hard to convince you of something you don't need convincing of.
The girl wants to have you under her belt. If she went up in flames the second you told her about a girl, she wants you but tries to get the upper edge on you by acting dominant.
The relationship you are in right now is mega toxic and your last comment made it that much more obvious.
Just do yourself a favor and think it through. I'm not telling you to keep it, I'm not telling you to end it. Just that it's toxic and you are at the moment trying to justify it by saying that she's twisted and you're getting pussy. You're allowing a girl to take your power and use it against you.
7.5" length, 5.5" girth, a bit thicker when I'm super hard. You can look at the mediafire folder I uploaded. Definitely not the biggest dick out there, but it's enough to make most women very happy, especially that curve that hits the hard to reach spots. Most girls always guess it's 8".
Liam Johnson
>7.5" length, 5.5" girth I have similar proportions, do you use Magnums or Magnum XLs? It always feels like I'm right in between
Daniel Lopez
I know exactly what you mean, I use the Magnums even though it's a bit tight, the XL is for guys who have like 6"+ girth.
One thing with this girl too... we have unprotected sex like... constantly. We're both tested negative, she's on birth control. That's another benefit of this relationship: very frequent, unprotected sex.
Jordan Smith
How is it possible to have similar girth yet condoms with nominal size 64 are real uncomfortable to put on. Always feels like I'm stretching my foreskin like crazy.
Angel Richardson
>foreskin
There's the rub.
Luis Ross
Im not falling for Jewish schemes. Just tired of looking for fitting condoms.
Nolan Wilson
That part I can't help you with, I'm cut myself and generally just find a bit of lube inside the condom helps. And on top of that I haven't been using condoms in months.
