Why do you guys not support our Independence?

Catalan is left wing as fuck, why would we support it

Would you still want independence if Spain became the next Italy? Can you survive without Spain? Do any countries support you?

>.t Rufian

whites r gay

You're not richer than the Basque region or the province of Madrid pet capita.
They are.
They'll never be in the EU for instance because of Spain.

That's what we're trying to do, but we're too diplomatic, hopefully a war will ensue, I don't dislike Spaniards actually I prefer you guys over any other european people. I just believe that the Iberian Peninsula should either become a de facto Union/Confederation, or we should balkanise, I would rather us be stronger through our ethnic ties and create a Confederacy, but it doesn't seem likely considering the Spanish Government's grasp on the Iberian Peninsula.

>Would you still want indepedence if Spain became the next Italy

I would support Spain if it became more cantonalist and yet also more anti-immigration and more socialistic whilst being way way way WAY more conservative.

>Can you survive without Spain

Yes.

>Do any countries support you

Scotland (don't understand why though, they seem to think our issue is the same as theirs, scots are very retarded)

El Catalán mas guapo del mundo

>You're not richer than the literal CAPITAL of Spain

Lul....

Marco Asensio?

i would rub and sniff cute, brown, muslim admixed moor spanish feet.

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The problem is that nation is strongly tied to linguistics, if there are too many tongues spoken that are not the same, there will not be a sense of kinship unless it's bounded by ethnicity, we are not currently bounded by ethnicity because well... (Liberalism & Capitalism)

Unfortunately no. I'm like asensio but blonde and with blue eyes. And a bit paler.

Fuck off you half-communist, half-genovese leftist scum.

Castilla is Spain, Catalonia is its bitch.

Ah, and enjoy your Ada Colau pisser of a mayor

i do support it. Jow Forums has been pozzed though, unfortunately.

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Okay you ugly disgusting inbred Sicilian shitskin mutt, go back to the sand dune you crawled out from you ugly rancid rape baby.

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>I just believe that the Iberian Peninsula should either become a de facto Union/Confederation
No.
Kick out the Moroccans and the boatniggers.
Still no.
Rather be poor than a moor

>el catalANO

You'll be the one with rape babies if you get independence

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I already live next to a NATO puppet non-country

Catalonia is cucked as fuck, it would be even worse than Sweden if it got independence. Spain is what keeps them from going full cuck.

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Those are Spaniards who have invaded our Catalonian lands

No, you traitors should be put in jail.

It ain't happening you dirty commie, be content that you can ride as bitch for Spain.

>that delusion

fuck off to Belgium already

i do support independence. Spain is a shit hole thats only getting worse. Young people are moving abroad for work, economy is shitty, crazy government. Maybe this would help at least a part of that

I don't really care. If you're truly different race, then you should of course get your independence. If not, you should not.

I did actually go to Waterloo to support Puigdemont, our legitimate president.

Spaniards are very much a lazy and inferior people, with a history that shows it

>being this deluded
>ignoring the Catalan flags

Just face the fact you are the cuck of Spain.

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Castillian infiltrators pretending to be muslims, without a doubt in my Catalonian mind.

i'd say they are either retarded, or just misled completly. This goes for all the southern European countries

>supporting Puigdemont, a left wing cuck
>it delusion about the cuckness of Catalan

At this point you are either a troll or retarded as fuck

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I'm Catalonian (from Lleida) but I rly don't give a fuck about Catalonian nationalism... lul

Well do you know that it's Spanish rule that keeps the cuckness of the Catalonians in line ?

pero si en barna esta lleno de moros, de que coño hablais

Spanish rule does the opposite. Catalonians are trying to rebel by "outprogressing" the Spaniards

its also spanish rule that keeps Spain poor. Its spanish rule that makes young people move abroad for work, its spanish rule that caused a huge youth unemployment.

I support your independence, if you earn it with blood. You like to fly a flag similar to that of Cuba, but avoid fighting a war like they did to earn the right to be represented by said flag.

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Estoy ahora mismo en Barna y uff... tio... está lleno lleno lleno de moros, sé que hay moros en Valencia pero UUFFF "ciudad mas cosmopolita de España" significa ciudad con menos nativos.

Agreed, if Catalonia achieves independence through a referendum I will actually be gobsmacked, I know Sanchéz is probably capable of doing that but damn.... if that happens wow

>rebelling by cucking yourself harder
>thinking this is a viable strategy

Well yeah Spain is a corrupt shithole, but it's better than an independent Catalan would be.

You imported arabs for votes. You deserve to be wiped out.

Cuckalans are one of the better LARPers of the world, I'll hand that to them.

i just want to give the EU headaches

That's fair

LOL, they look like brits.

you shouldn't be ruled over by anyone at all m8

mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy of the State_3.pdf

Pretty sure that's exactly what OP is saying.

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18+

Dude in your baiting effort you forgot to change your flag to a meme flag
t.actual catalonian surrounded by shitskins (the area of spain with more muslim migrants)

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>catalonians talking shit about moors when they mass voted a towelhead
hahaha

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Immigrants are our allies against spanish fascism and to achieve our independence. I would rather vote them in office than any Catalan hating Castillian

because you're faggots

There is nothing more fascist and opressive in this world than Islam,Jordi.Of course you're so blinded by hate that you will never bother to check how the people with different ideas,sexualities and religious afiliations (or lack of)are treated in muslim majority countries.The fact that you're allying with them makes you a bunch of hypocrites.

>shitskins go where there's prosperity and not where there's misery
in other news water is wet

> Spaniards are Moors, fuck them
> We therefore support actual Moors in alliance against them

Peak logic

I will only support your independence ONCE Quebec gets it, because we simply deserve it more, as in we were just more oppressed, we're more different than Canadians than you are from Spaniards, etc.

Cheers !

>be spaniard
>laugh about your country falling apart
>purposely ruin one of the most productive areas of your country because you're butthurt that they want to leave your shithole
>"that'll show 'em"

seems extremely gay and fagpilled

Und das bin ich jetzt auch geworden, Herr Kommisar.

Wir Schweizer haben halt diesen Effekt das die Leute um uns nass werden.

They ruined themselves with that fake declaration of independence, not our fault

>literally wearing the number of the beast around her neck

Right, like you haven't been fucking them up for decades. Hell, they were better off under Franco, at least he had enough brains to know that you don't strangle your main industrial powerhouse. You people are so fucked in the head it's really sad.

>Fuck mutts
>T. Pure blood Catalonian

Fuck all Catalans

T. Half Spaniard as well

I'll concede, giving them autonomy fucked them up. You are to blame if you give a knife to a child and he cuts himself. Should have kept iron rule from Madrid.

>We are white, We got only hot ruled by literal north African niggers for a couple of centuries who were enslaving us

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Fucking kek, you know less about your own country than me, a foreigner. Your "autonomies" are utter bs, all the relevant things are decided from Madrid, like your massively retarded tax policy. I've never seen anything more retarded than a country strangling small businesses to death with such ridiculous taxes, and on top of it spending all that money on the most ridiculous shit ever. You people are like niggers spending what little money they got on fancy watches and chrome rims for their shitboxes.
Just wait until the next crisis hits this year or at most next year. You people are absolutely screwed.

This flag scares me, mate

Whatever you say, Anna Gabriel. Enjoy the mountains

North Africans were under Greco-Roman-Vandal rule for 1000+ years

I see I hit a nerve there.

>8 seconds

I dont mind Catalonia becoming a majority Muslim country as long it is independent. Islam is an anti-imperialist force against the West for centuries. So siding with them against Francoist Spain is the only logical step

Because you are pussies.
Earn your independence, don't ask to be freed like niggers.

No, I'm just not willing to discuss historical economics with a mountain jew. Catalonia has always been the spoiled child; we sacrificed Cadiz to keep them happy with their retarded protectionist policies, we sacrificed population to fuel their industry flowing, we sacrificed morals to let them slave trade, and they keep asking for more, more, more.
Now they manage almost everything on their little feud (education, healthcare, their own police, prisons, roads, tax collecting, public funding and a fucking lot more). They just mad we caught therm storing embezzlement money in Andorra and can't avoid statle law.

>they manage ... tax collecting
why are all spanairds such compulsive liars?

Independence through bloodshed. If you want it take it. Otherwise you exist under the shield of Spain. Without their shield someone else would’ve taken your land. Prove your worth for independence

also
>spaniard accusing catalans of corruption
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Political trick to stole more money, you want to be more poor?

You see Goldstein, they are Spaniards too, hence thay are corrupt as shit.

at least you admit that corruption is in your DNA

also keep up the ad hominem, totally not making you look triggered

There are too many pointless tiny splinter countries in Europe. In cases where the citizens are literally enthnically and religiously identical, you owe it to your collective people to stay one strong, unified voice.

Sit down and read.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_Autonomy_of_Catalonia

y'all shits
I support your independence because I support all independences, including Syrian and Iranian, but you must fight for being independent, not just cuck around like you do

The bulk of taxes is collected by the spanish state, I know this because I lived in Spain for several years. But keep making it look like collecting some peanuts is somewhow relevant while you strangle small businesses. You surely have a brilliant future ahead.

The only one fuming here is you. I'm just sitting back and enjoing the trials, like I enjoyed the rallies, the ballots, and all the LARPing. Tantrums are fun.

the concept of nation-state fucked up Spain which was one if not the first modern state ironically with fueros, faith and monarchy, we should stick to it, give population freedom under a strong ruler instead of creating mongrel taifas and giving voice to retarded kids who can't comprehend carlism and patriotism turning them into nationalism

Because you are historical part of Spain and not real nation. You just like ukrainians - meme "nation" created just for get Europeans more divided and weak

I support your independence, I also want to restart the ETA and ACA

So your business wasn't profitable and it's our falut somehow? Unluckily for us, our country isn't small and supported by global banking, so taxes must be paid.