Victor Orban

aside from the tax cuts, also about 1100 euro a year for the first 18 years of the child. We pay even more on daycare subsidies, i believe it was on average 4000 per family.

>It will work once we take it all even further
Doubt.

>also about 1100 euro a year for the first 18 years of the child
That's pittance even in Lithuania

A lifetime personal income-tax exemption for women who give birth to and raise at least four children

A low-interest loan of €31500 for women under the age of 40 marrying for the first time. A third of the debt will be forgiven when a second child is born and the entire loan waived after any third child.

A loan program for families with at least two children to help them buy homes will also be expanded

After the birth of a second child, the government will give €3150 towards its family's mortgage, after the third child, €12580 and €3150 for every subsequent child

Grand-parents could be eligible for "GYED" - a type of paid maternity leave until their grandchildren reach the age of three

The Hungarian nursery system will be expanded with 21000 new places by 2022

A subsidy of €7862 will be offered toward the purchase a seven-seat vehicle for families with three or more children.

Orban also is excising cancerous postmodern education that teaches women to hate babies. Additionally, Hungary doesn’t have 5 million Arabs to make responsible parents second guess the decision to have a white kid. There are several reasons to think he will be more successful.

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>A low-interest loan of €31500
It says no interest in Lithuanian media

Hungary can now fully transition to a 100% pure gypsy homeland

it can be no interest this is that i'm getting for western media.

Its still more than Orbans plan would give.

While it sounds amazing, I wonder how Hungary plans to pay for it

>While it sounds amazing, I wonder how Hungary plans to pay for it
E-(You) money

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Lmao no interest loan alone is worth more than whole 18 years of fucking mere 1100 not to mention no taxes for whole life lel

They will tax all libertarians at rate of 99%

Does the husband have to pay taxes ?

Jesus, he's really kicking that shit into high gear. Nice. Based and Redpilled, Hungary.

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>the entire loan waived after any third child.
>the entire loan waived
I'm sure this won't upset anyone who uses the interest on loans as a means of income.

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It won't. 444 wrote a pretty decent article about it for once.
It can't work, because it came too late. The generation that could change demographics became too old. The idea and the intent was good, but we ran out of time.
444.hu/2019/02/11/elveszett-magyarorszag-anyatartaleka
>inb4 (((444)))

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>theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/10/viktor-orban-no-tax-for-hungarian-women-with-four-or-more-children

dont know how yalls tax system works but that shit would damn near pay for itself here with all the administrative and pre-existing head count deductions each kid provides already, mixed with removing the incentive to stay unemployed to receive certain benefits. Also what about the fathers? Will they be able to income share with their spouses to receive some of this benefit? The article doesn't go in depth.

Also i feel like captcha shit is just us teaching AI what things are. It's getting smarter.

Based and facistpilled

>mfw i had this gorgeous foreign exchange student at my high school and we dated for whole year of high school and she wanted me to come home with her in Hungary and i broke her heart into million pieces.

I really feel horrible to this day about it. I don’t know if Hungary would like to have ginger kids
T. Ginger with blue eyes.

Taxing women with no kids

No there hasn't. The only time a natural citizens birthrate has been this subsidized is under the national socialists and it worked amazingly. Makes you wonder why (((they))) keep kvetching and dismissing it

>mother of four
>working
what about the breadwinner?
Whoever thinks this will work is an idiot.

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More monies to gypsies.

(((numerous studies)))

>not an argument

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>she wanted me to come home with her in Hungary
This is retarded. What would you do in Hungary? What COULD you do in Hungary? I doubt you know the language and Hungarian is one of the hardest languages for English speaker.

>tfw no qt hungarian gf to make 4 or more pure blooded mongol babies with

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>gypsies
>paying tax in the first place
Also, these benefits won't apply to people with criminal backgrounds

how is it not an argument when this essentially changes nothing?
>haha we just won't take the income she doesn't even have
meanwhile the dirt poor father bearing the entire burden has zero incentive and ability to feed them

I know little Hungarian. I wouldn’t surprise if you learn a new language for the gorgeous girl that quickly. That’s what i did.

It has been tried once under Natsoc germany and it worked amazingly well. They experienced an population boost.

It's not morally wrong to extract one single policy that actually worked and apply it to modern society. Damn, if we can boost our population and thus our economy without causing all the negative socialtal/economica/cultural side-effects of mass immigration, one would be a total fool not to do so.

As usual, orban leads the way. I've been saying this all along, but Eastern-Europe will be a future powerhouse will western europe will crumble from without due to a complete loss of all cohesion. It just boggles the mind how the technocrats in brussels don't see this.

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>le poor father
He can stay at home, fuck off hes not the one giving birth.

he's the one feeding them all, you moron

>implying

yes, motherhood is a full time job in itself

Piss off
I came back from Norway to Lithuania

lmao, not in modern economy only retarded LARPers or ex-commies think that single guy supporting family of 5 is a thing in the west.

>2019
>mothers not working
brainlet

I know you shitskin pakis don't give a shit about your stillbirth spawn, but actual humans prefer to take care of their children instead of putting them in state approved preschool propaganda classes.

yeah, maybe in your African shithole

It would be more likely to work if you took the money from them with taxes, and dangled a subsidy above their heads to get it back. Rather than inform them that they could save money by doing X.

At least as an African shitholer I have brain power to deal with reality where stay at home mothers is a past

wow based bozorg!
gimme dats for low IQ babies - this is gonna do wonders yes!

This would have been amazing if the fertile generations of women were interested in having a family, and not obsessed with being a materialistic wage slave more devoted to their own people's extinction than its prosperity.

So many women would rather burn down the work of thousands of their ancestors for a few endorphin highs than continue their species. They view children as disposable nuisances. Our people are lost

That would create a backlash
Does Slovenia have system like this? If no how a retard like you was born then.

>for low IQ babies
If theyre white, they wont have a lower avg IQ.

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True instead of doing anything we should spiral into ethernal despair and just wave our hands and say 'its ogre'.

Women want to have children, you can't change their nature.

Isn't this already creating a backlash? It's the same outcome (more money in the pockets of families), but one is designed with human mentality in mind, and the other is designed by a bureaucrat. Hungary has the right to do this, but they should do it right.

>444 op-ed magically comes up with the immediate final verdict for measures that will take decades to pan out

>parenting is hard I'd rather my kid learns about gays in kindergarden
yes and that's the reason your people are effete cucks

>Isn't this already creating a backlash?
Its not

Whatever faggot. You will find a reason to whine at any action positive or not. Your type of people are irrelevant.

Father of 4 here. My wife works part time at my children’s school. She does this to be there to make sure our school is doing a good job, and is because she is home when the kids are home. My income is what pays the bills and puts food on the table. Her income isn’t much, and is used for our family’s non essential expenditures

It was tried in communist Romania as well.
And we went from 14-15 mil to 22-23 mil in less than 80 years.

no retirement...force family members to take care of their elders. Onyl then, will you have bigger families. Force people to live like their ancestors. Under harsh conditions.
There's no insentive to have kids when the government takes care of you from cradle to grave.

Social benefits should be banned for single women, single men. We need another war. We have't had one since ww2 and we're not letting natural selection take its course. That's the problem. Of course, no sane politician will take these initiatives because said politician wouldn't get re-elected.

The only other solution is religion. Strong religion + Nationalism. Cultural and racial pride. Individualism is cancer. No need for a communist fiscal policy. But people have to have a very strong identity and feel like their neighbors are also part of their extended family. Feel like a tribe.

magik quads.
But wasn't the Romanian system flawed? Since it led to a bunch of orphans and a gypo population boom.

>Force people to live like their ancestors. Under harsh conditions.
>How to make a revolution/civil war in one easy step

This won't work. People here don't have kids, only dogs.

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>It has been tried once under Natsoc germany and it worked amazingly well. They experienced an population boost.

For it to work, you'd also have to ban single women and single men (heterosexual or gay) from having the same rights. And heck, even ban them from having social benefits. Problem solved. And of course, encourage couples to have kids, help them as much as possible, financially speaking, and ban non-european migrants from having the same rights. That would be a good start

>>Force people to live like their ancestors. Under harsh conditions.
>>How to make a revolution/civil war in one easy step

And yet, that's how it works. We're just too comfy, too pussified, to imagine something different at this point in time. And we take our life stye for granted.

>It just boggles the mind how the technocrats in brussels don't see this.

Implying that this not their target all along.

We are dealing with possible solutions here not LARP. I asked kindly in good faith to not shitpost.

we have 800k - 1 million gypsies in a ~9,5 million country...
last year nearly half of the newborns were shitskinned

Bitcoin and cool wine aunts KEK

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Why is this not apparent to everyone already? All my friends are faggots who think the EU is beneficial, apart from one who is a socialist (lul)

About time someone in Europe finally gets the bigger picture reproduce bitches.

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good stuff
Here in cuckistan everybody gets money for shitting out kids. Great for certain "germans".
By not taxing people, their target audience is hopefully the productive working class

Yes it was, now Romania is on the verge of becoming a Gypo nation (this article explains it pretty that I ever could: amren.com/features/2017/12/is-romania-part-of-the-west-gypsy/ ), that guy is retarded. Quality > Quantity

This is an inconvenient truth that threatens their current source of hope. Also, because they are fed 24/7 with propaganda and plastic-crystals to play with.

That's a recipe for disaster. Not only is dysgenic af since low IQ people tend to have a higher birthrate but Hungary has a high Gypo population, so the outcome of that policy would be subsidising those subhumans (I guess Orban likes that)

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The last thing we need is more "hun"g*rians

gyppos don't pay taxes to begin with so it won't be an issue

Don't see it? LOL
They want it.

Hungary had the same proportion of gipsies as us, yet they didn`t left the country because they were much better integrated. This means that most of the gipsies in hungary are working and will receive the benefits of the tax cuts
Also thanks to soros programs to promote gipsy pride like naming them roma, now they are harder to maghiarize.

I would prefer to wait until we have artificial wombs and gene-editing capabilities to raise the birthrates of Romania

the stats are fake, they assume that all the population growth in the 20th century goes to the gipsies, is just antiromanian propaganda

>muh conspiracy

That is the actual number of Gypos (I would even argue that it's higher now if we count all the mixed ones and the ones that have been born from when the study was taken).

Do you really believe that they're only 4% as the census says? Amost all of them say they're "Romanian" in the census and a significant number aren't even conted since they don't have legal documents

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Don't you also have an over encumbering amount of foreigners in your country? A bit different from Hungary.

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After 1945 there were some 58k gipsies officially, unofficially maybe 100k but i doubt.
so yeah, a X24 multiplication in 6 decades it`s absolutely impossible
That is anti-romanian propaganda 100%, just like those articles in the west where Romania had 16mil or 10 mil gipsies, it`s all propaganda to make people believe all romanians are gipsies like the retards on pol

ps:kill yourself bozgor

somebody make an Orban honk pepe already

Do Hungarian qts exist? If so brb moving to Hungary.

Fuckoff we're full kikestein

>Sweden

Yeah of Somali cock

>what is ratkó korszak
>because boomer swarms die out at a faster rate than zoomers can ever hope to breed we shouldn't try to rebalance the age pyramid and prevent te extinction of our people in the long run
>it wont work goy just import africans like the developed and smart west
>also dont forget to vote for le epic herbal gang weed opposition reddit party instead of dumb orban

We arent the west tho faggot

>After 1945 there were some 58k gipsies officially, unofficially maybe 100k but i doubt.

Yeah, and then the Commies came and brought the Gypos to the cities, built blocks for them and let them bred like rats

>just like those articles in the west where Romania had 16mil or 10 mil gipsies

No one is claiming that Romania has "10-16 mil Gypsies" They just reffer to Romanian gypsies as "Romanians" (technically true since they have Romanian citinzenship) in their aticles or use the term "Roma" because they know the average Westerner is too dumb to differentiate between "roma" and Romanian

You know, there's a reason why Romania is a dysfunctional stagnant country without any social cohesion.

This would cause me to have a child this year, and likely 5+.

Currently, I'm working on solid financial footing before I embark. Which likely means late next year and probably no more than 3.

I wish we would do this.
Maybe with a minimum 100 IQ requirement for the father and 92 for the mother (should exclude 80% of blacks and 70% of other browns). As well as a ban on felons. Which would exclude 20% of those remaining.

>We arent the west tho faggot
soon

Quality wont do shit when "quality" people never breed no matter what
As long as we get our birthrate up from literal zero it doesnt matter how many gypsies are made as a byproduct, we can just have them emigrate when germany needs more guest workers

Where?

Oh so the 444 said it must be so true. All the effort are useless and won't even worth a try cause some liberal, nose pierced, vape smoking faggots said it so.