Attorney General nominee Wilhelm Barr is unsure of birthright citizenship

>history never changes

No it does, when we dispense with the formalites and just wipe you leftist fucksticks out

just sayin words eh?

I can't believe I'm even going to dance on this line here, but, okay. If you're a fucking potato nigger, you at least had to come over on a boat. I could not let you off that boat and make you take your ass up the coast to yankland, or maybe tell you to go back. Or maybe muh pathological altruism kicks in and I start considering the fact I can kind of understand your language depending on how fucking drunk you are. You are, potato nigger or not...kinda...huwyte. European. Kind of. There aren't a dirty billion of you 20 feet from Texas. You don't stand to seriously subvert any political systems if I let you roll in unchecked. You still face the challenge of getting here on a boat made out of potato skins and Jameson bottles. But beaners are a fucking invasive species by comparison. Our border is basically a magic gibs finish line. And what really starts to fuck the whole conversation out of being rational is the Hart Celler Act

He promised it, he said “it’s coming”.

>and subject to the jurisdiction thereof

>and subject to the jurisdiction thereof
Jacob Howard and others specifically mentioned that it does not apply to foreign aliens or the children of diplomats.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln
>Abraham Lincoln
>Died April 15, 1865

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
>The Fourteenth Amendment (Amendment XIV) to the United States Constitution was adopted on July 9, 1868,
>citizenship rights and equal protection of the laws and was proposed in response to issues related to former slaves following the American Civil War

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1870
>extending the naturalization process to "aliens of African nativity and to persons of African descent
>The Naturalization bill was introduced by Republican Representative Noah Davis

A song:
bartleby.com/98/670.html
>Jesse Seligman By Noah Davis

>HIS was another race than mine
>Another faith, from which mine sprung:
>He traced his lineage by another line,
>And gained his manhood in another tongue.

>Yet when he sought our common sky, 5
>And breathed the welcome of its air,
>His soul rose up, as eagles fly,
>To the full heights of manhood there.

>Oh, Brother ours! whose life has beamed
>With faith in God, with love of man, 10
>Through which thy patriot virtues streamed
>To bless and aid our noble land.

>I stand to-day beside thy bier,
>To own thy brotherhood divine,
>And proudly claim with many a tear, 15
>That Israel’s God is thine and mine.

First comes amendment, then comes the act. Well if amendment or even before constitution defined it more precisely you wouldn't need the act. Constitution was loosely defined terms.

>Well if amendment or even before constitution defined it more precisely you wouldn't need the act. Constitution was loosely defined terms.
The amendment is perfectly clear.

For instance, everyone readily accepts that it specifically states that the children of diplomats are not citizens. Well guess what? It's the same exact fucking language that prevents all other foreign aliens born here from being automatic citizens.

Amendments aren't clear at all, they don't define what type of guns, what type of naturalization or what white race even means. They just throw away words without defining them. That's why you need additional laws. That's why they can ban certain guns in certain states, because constitution + amendment never said which guns. And btw you don't have militia. Also constitution isn't going to define what defines a good pork chop, that's changed by additional laws, which can change additionally. Amendment itself is also change of constitution, so why not change it again? You can delete all amendments, after all they are unconstitutional.

>but not diplomat kids cuz reasons

>Amendments aren't clear at all,
Maybe if you're from Slovenia.

This modern complaint about the obscurity and meaning of the basic language of our nation's foundation is yet another way massive immigration has fucked us over. Native English speakers debate ad nauseam over the 2nd amendment, a very straightforward and well documented SINGLE SENTENCE OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE, and I'm expected to be secure in my natural right in the face of an unmitigated brown invasion?

Amendments only cease being clear when liberal faggots start trying to pass laws to ban things which are clearly legal, while trying to legalize things which are clearly not

>And btw you don't have militia.
We have young men, guns, and the right to form one. That's our militia.

Find me what white race means in constitution or even your acts. What is white? Even today no tests for white exist, nobody attempted to define that, so you placed burden upon people to self-identify, which on itself is illegal.

>Find me what white race means in constitution or even your acts. What is white?
Why does that matter? This nation was founded for "ourselves and our posterity", not as an ethnostate with every limp-dicked canadian or slav maintaining that they have a right to entry and citizenship.

Private stocks never were legal, public stocks should exist, so you cheated in law, because they didn't define what public stocks mean. Your private industry larps as public stock company, because they are on public market, that's not what public stock meant to founding fathers, since it's literally a private company.

That's not militia, that is ZOG private company, nothing to do with government or collective that is militia.

>That's not militia, that is ZOG private company, nothing to do with government or collective that is militia.
You're a fucking retard. Our militia purposely has no government regulation.

Did you just call our right to freely assemble an armed populace a zionist plot? hahahaha

Prosperity of people = everybody has decisions.
Prosperity of politicians/companies = not why USA was created.
People = 100%.
Politicians, bosses = 1%.

Militia implies collective, implies well-organized, that's enough implying that it's not a private company, nor individuals.

POSTERITY not prosperity, you retard.

This is why you'd make a terrible citizen, despite your supposed whiteness.

You can imply that you know what you're talking about all day but we both know that's not true.

If it is posterity, then you lose even more in your argument.
dictionary.com/browse/posterity
>ucceeding or future generations collectively:

Literally says collective. Literally not a private company, literally not individuals.

>So Trump is an illegal president?
if his mother was not born in the United States and was not ever a citizen then yes, and as such anybody who seated him as president should be removed from office, which of course you can say the same for everyone who illegally seated Obama as president as he was also ineligible for the office, Trump I don't know but if both parents were not US citizens then he is not eligible for the office of president

We both know i am right.

en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Henry_Lee
In 1788 wrote:
>The military forces of a free country may be considered under three general descriptions — 1. The militia. 2. the navy — and 3. the regular troops
>A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves
>The powers to form and arm the militia, to appoint their officers, and to command their services, are very important
>militia shall always be kept well organized, armed, and disciplined
>by establishing select corps of militia, or distinct bodies of military men, not having permanent interests and attachments in the community to be avoided.

Nothing constitutional about private gun owners or private gun shops.

>so no Barron 2044
did Melania become a US citizen? if no and she has not by the time he runs then he is not eligible although nobody will ever say anything because they don't want to be removed from office for seating Obama illegally

>liberals will endorse birthright citizenship only applying to citizenchildren if it means orange man will go away

You cant even keep track of what we're talking about, you fucking retard. That was in response to your moronic statement that the constitution is inadequate because it doesnt define what a white person is.

It doesnt matter, because it's not a white nation, it's a nation for ourselves and our posterity.

Seriously how hard is it to follow a chain of replies? Maybe that should be our citizenship test?

>it's unconstitutional
>which is why none of the founding fathers or framers attempted to mass gungrab while they were alive

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Oranga man is going away anyway, if not at the end of this term than at the end of the next one,

so why they waste time on nonsense instead of rebuilding their shattered platform is beyond words

You are talking about how free market has the rights in constitution, when it has none. Free market migrants have no rights by default in native country, first of all because they are needed by private companies in apartment/food/worker industry and secondly because the constitution doesn't protects illegals or foreigners. Government regulates citizenship, not private market, while guns should be regulated by collective. That's 3 different things: collective, private, government.

>Nothing constitutional about private gun owners or private gun shops.
are you a literal retard or just pretending?

You are proof that even one simple, plainly written sentence is too much for foreigners to process.

>en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Henry_Lee
That's great that he had an opinion, but they ratified a constitution that allows for private ownership of firearms. And even when taking his opinion into account, the same applies. Quite literally.

William (((Barr))) is a gun-grabbing neo-con who also had a significant role in Ruby Ridge and Waco, and Trump is wrong for nominating this clown.

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>You are talking about how free market has the rights in constitution,
lol holy shit you're delusional. You called private firearms ownership a zionist plot, that's all.

Seriously, take your meds.

Private gun shops aren't militia, neither posterity. Totally not protected by constitution.

>and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,

If you're here illegally, or you have citizenship in another country you haven't renounced, your children aren't citizens of the U.S.. We can legally strip citizenship from many millions of adults because they were never entitled to citizenship.

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What the fuck is companies employing Mexicans and companies selling guns? Not protected by constitution.

>Trump is wrong for nominating this clown.
you got that right, this is the guy who sent the FBI to arrest Noreiga in Panama without consent of their government, he's a total monarchist and Trump is a total asshole for even considering him, it would have been much better if he picked someone like Suge Knight, that shit would have been hilarious

>Attorney General nominee Wilhelm Barr is unsure of birthright citizenship
Let's make his life even harder! (See: .)

alright you know what ive had enough i think its time to start handing something out

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WRONG.
Try Janet Reno you dumb shit.

>Private gun shops aren't militia
no one made that claim you illiterate mongrel
the right to buy and sell guns is protected by the 2nd and by basic property rights.
>neither posterity
daww look at him parrot words he doesnt understand
>Totally not protected by constitution.
ok retard

these words are completely unnecessary if the fondling feathers intended everyone born in the united states to be a citizen

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>Janet Reno
how come she was not allowed to live one day into the Trump administration?

Only one has to be a citizen

>if the fondling feathers intended
you have to look at legal definitions for the terms used common at the time of writing, you must have at least one parent with citizenship and even then you would not be eligible for the office of president

Because the Demoshit party can only survive politically by importing more shitskins, and they think if they import enough voters they'll be able to have "democratic socialism" where someone else pays off their college loans and gives them FREE SHIT.

Trump pushing illegals out, birthright citizenship for citizens only, national voter ID, purging voter lists of illegals etc. all threatens that because their ideas aren't actually popular with normal people.

>Only one has to be a citizen
to be a naturalized citizen both parents must be citizens

theamericanconservative.com/articles/william-barrs-connection-to-ruby-ridge-defending-fbi-snipers/
Wow, it's almost like government operations can have more than one person involved. Janet Reno and Barr both play for the same team, and serve the same interests.

Private gun shops are neither public shops, neither collective shops. Founding fathers didn't want to generate cash, they wanted to create a country. What one company does isn't will of people, isn't collective, isn't public, it's private, very clear what private company does. A private company works for profit, a public company doens't works for profit, like collective company doesn't works for profit. A public company only has input in cash, can't generate output in cash, only can generate end products and end services. A militia has to generate end product weapons and end services training, no profit whatsoever, they work for people, not profit.

if i was referring to the founding fathers, i would've said founding fathers. the fondling feathers are the traitorous reconstructionist civnat cucks.

>naturalized
*natural born

>Because the Demoshit party can only survive politically by importing more shitskins
thats not why they do that, it's Roman style rule, the values isn't the votes, nobody votes, they have a few army guys fraud that shit up every time

it seems to me that the democrats are playing a role concocted for them, their goal is to create a new holocaust here in the United States, so they can be lazy figuring out how to rob us, if we are punished with reparations like Germany was

She has Parkinsons or some shit. Barr wasn't nominated by Bush Sr. he took over bc the AG ran for Senate or changed positions. I forget the exact details. Anyway he is an immigration Hawk so thats one good thing. You'd be hard pressed not to find dirt on any of these people desu.

Barr is a gun grabber too. The Gun Owners of America have opposed this nomination.
Is president Trump pulling these names out of a hat?
"OK, she's dead. I nominate ... 7 3/8 to replace her."

>You'd be hard pressed not to find dirt on any of these people desu.
yeah I know, organized crime is like that, these guys are all my family

your moronic diatribe, while impressively ignorant, is not an argument.

It's been a while since I've seen a post that actually threatened to lower my IQ by reading it. I'm thankful you're not in my country because you sound like you'd be one of those sovereign citizen retards who use the same idiot logic as you.

>She has Parkinsons or some shit
she died the night before Trump was sworn in, suspicious as fuck considering how much attention was given to Waco during the campaign and how much drama was written up by CFR on how many bricks were shat by those rich fucks over our discovery of their celebrating satanic holidays

A gun shop outputs profit. Nuff said.
A militia outputs guns and training.
Government isn't private company, they should transform taxes into end products and services. I know you totally ignore constitution, which is normal in USA, everybody does that. A freaking gun shop isn't even a producer of guns, they are just middle man for profit, not in interests of people, in interests of profit.

Yea I know he like others protect their own. Thats not a good thing by any means and I think thats why Barr is going in. To plaster the cracked walls of the DOJ instead of cleaning it out like it should. I hope he focuses on immigration bc from what I've read he is hawkish on that at least.

We already know for a fact that the 14th Amendment doesn't include birthright citizenship because when it was adopted it did not apply to all of the indigenous tribes within the United States. They only got citizenship in the 1920s with a separate piece of legislation.
Does Trump know this and is willing to act on it? Probably not.

We can eliminate birthright citizienship as soon as we admit Ginsberg Jew is dead

She actually died one day before Trump was elected oddly enough.

I meant *had* Parkinsons. But yea pretty spoopy occurrence

>A gun shop outputs profit. Nuff said.
lol, what? What's wrong with that? I'd love to hear your retard logic about how buying and selling privately owned items is a constitutional no-no

>A militia outputs guns and training.
No, that would be an armory and conscription
What you seem to be advocating for, and not realizing it (maybe you dont know the word?), is called "conscription".

>"conscription".
slavery again, blecch

sorry a deleted it because I thought you assumed she was alive
well idk about that, but I do recall it being funny because she had recently stated something like "I wont see a president Trump in my lifetime" or whathaveyou

>lol, what? What's wrong with that?
A nigger rapes your wife, he says he works in interests of you. Do you agree?

As my understanding goes and every logical being in universe, when somebody works in my interest(interest of people) he asked me and i gave him orders.
When gun shop received orders from people how guns should look like, how many and every other cosmetic detail all people agreed in town or area where that gun shops stands, then we can talk about "in my interests", but we still can't talk about collective aka militia, since for that we need to own that shop in that area, not 1 Jude guy with military connections.

You're wrong, if even just one parent is a citizen they would still be under US jurisdiction. I would have to quote huge sections of the Senate debates in order to show it and I'm too busy with work right now.

Don’t forget the potato niggers were only given one of the following when they arrived
A rifle to free the blacks
A shovel and axe to build the railroad
A pick to mine coal

No free food, housing assistance, or health care. You worked or you starved. When you committed crime you were generally beaten and/or hung.

>A nigger rapes your wife, he says he works in interests of you. Do you agree?
A retard posts on Jow Forums comparing a voluntary transaction between two free peoples with the violent rape of a loved one. Have they recently been lobotomized, or are they just Slovenian?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy
>Democracy (Greek: δημοkρατία dēmokratía, literally "rule by people"),

Voting for a guy or picking available offers isn't democracy. Democracy is owning the guy and getting stuff delivered that was ordered, nothing more, nothing less.

lol oh wow, look at him go

It's basic concepts like democracy and posterity and collectivism that Americans want to badly turn into privatization. Who owns Trump? People should own him, not private selected individuals. People should give Trump orders, he's just there to do his job, not think about possible solutions. We give him contract he needs to fulfill and he does every single bullet point.
You know a company coming to my town and offering me their services is cronyism with local mayor. A company should not invent possible solutions, people will do that and then they will create companies or call you there while you sit tight in your phone book. Of course companies being create in free market without asking anybody is the reason for debt and wasteful resources. All companies should start existing when people made the demand. Some faggot construction and garbage companies come now in free market to doorsteps with their bible retards and offering me shit, they should crawl back to their holes. If i need them i will read about them, but probably i will never need them, since people's solutions are always better than what some company shits out based on their investor Juden.

>everything is planned

It must be nice living in a theistic form of atheism

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No one's reading your psychobabble, guy. You started off making weak and ignorant arguments, and you lost them all. No one's interested, especially me.

Oh what's that? Oh Jude and nigger is crying for not being allowed in my collective land of whites, we placed militia all around to shoot when Jude or nigger try to come in.
Too bad American dream didn't happen, instead Jewish money dream and nigger's muh dik dream and Mexican better life dream came true.

>It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States.
Lol and look at us now

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lol why should I let some moronic foreigner define what the american dream is?

Like I said, any ethnostate that would allow a fool like you into it because of arbitrary whiteness is doomed to failure.

It doesn't has to be ethnostate, but if that's what many people obviously want then their collective would make such rules, instead of dumb politicians making up rules based on their investor. I mean why would anybody willingly give up his land to somebody else? That means you got less of it. Should be decided how much land somebody gets, not by money or politicians, there among people, who also decide what they want to eat, probably wouldn't be hamburgers of Burger King as final decision.

>"[E]very person born within the limits of the United State, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include every other class of person."
-Jacob Howard Senator (MI)

>"...and I know of no better way to give rise to citizenship than the fact of birth within the territory of the United States, born of parents who at the time were subject to the authority of the United States."
- Reverdy Johnson Senator (MD)

Nope, only your father has to be a citizen. You also have to be White of course.
t. Immigration Act of 1790

>if even just one parent is a citizen they would still be under US jurisdiction
I just said that, but they are not eligible for the office of president which is the only office to require both parents to be natural born citizens

>Nope, only your father has to be a citizen.
both parents must be citizens

we must first understand what the requirements are for lawfully seating a President of the United States. To ascertain those requirements, we turn to the United States Constitution at: Article 2 § 1. Clause 5, which states:

“No Person except a natural born Citizen, …, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

Thus, we see that no person shall be eligible to the Office of President unless they:
are “a natural born Citizen”; and,
are at least 35 years of age; and,
have lived in the United States at lease 14 years.

cont
Though each of those eligibility requirements are self-explanatory, the meaning of the phrase “natural born Citizen” came into question when the Democratic National Committee ran Barrack Obama as their candidate for President in the 2008 Election. Because the phrase in question is not defined in the Constitution its definition is derived from common English Language usage of the phrase itself; more particularly, usage as the framers of the Constitution intended it at the time when they wrote the Constitution.

Yet, to begin our discovery of the meaning of the phrase we need to simply look at the phrase itself and see if its meaning is not defined by simply applying the English Language rules. That review reveals that the phrase: “natural born Citizen”, is a noun phrase based on the noun: “Citizen”, combined with the adjective modifiers: “natural born”. Therefore, we look to the conditions set by natural birth and ask the question regarding those modifiers: “What conditions of "natural birth" limitedly define the noun "Citizen"?” Respectively, we find that the only condition of natural birth that defines the nature of one’s citizenship is the condition where both the child’s Mother and Father are citizens of the same country. That is to say, the citizenship of a child is an automatic function of its natural birth only when, at the time of the child’s birth, both the child’s Mother and Father are citizens of the same country. Respectively, in all other conditions of birth, where the parents are not citizens of the same country, the citizenship of the child is a function of law; not the nature of its birth. Thus, we discover that the phrase: “natural born Citizen”, is, in fact, a very unique and definitive phrase that means exactly the same thing today that it meant when the framers of the Constitution wrote the Constitution.

Unironically based. He's with us on this one, boys. He just knows it would be suicide to give the game away at this point.

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>He's with us on this one, boys
no he isn't, he follows directions from a foreign monarch