Am I an asshole if I don't share my internet with my roommate?
Some background information. I've been living with my roommate for about a year and a half and its been okay. We're not friends, but we have a positive relationship for the most part. At least until recently. When I come home, I usually just go to my room and stay there. We have clear and established boundaries in the house. If anything, he's been a good roommate. He's never touched my stuff, not that I make it easy for him but we've never fought over that sort of thing.
When I moved in, my roommate proposed that we share an internet line and we each pay for half. I didn't want this, I wanted my own internet line so our house ended up having 2 separate internet lines. This ended being a good decision because my roommate is a Netflix and torrent whore. This has been our situation up until recently.
My roommate got a significant pay cut at his job and has been pretty much looking for every possible avenue to cut corners in his life. He ended up cutting his internet because he just couldn't afford it and has been relying on his phone service. He approached me recently and he asked me to let him use my internet because he hates using his phone service and he can't stream or anything. I said if he wants to use it, he would have to pay half.
We had an argument about it. He said we've been roommates for so long and he's having a hard time and to just help him out. I don't want him using my internet though. I told him that I don't want him using my internet, thats why we had this arrangement for so long. He said I should cut him some sympathy though, but I disagreed. The argument devolved into name calling and now we're just pissed at each other.
We're not friends, I really need to emphasize that. We just cohabitate in the same building but we rarely talk to each other. I really don't feel like I owe him anything. I pay the entirety of my internet bill and I don't want to share.
I think you're a cunt. I share my internet with like 4 people and it hasn't impacted me at all.
Aiden Adams
Yeah kinda. I would have just told him to not torrent while he was using it. He sounds like a dick too for getting pissed though so don't feel bad about it.
Jose Lewis
On many routers, you can set bandwidth limits for specific IP's/MAC addresses
As long as you know what devices he uses (which if you've got your own router, you can by process of elimination figure out that it's basically everything but your devices) can literally set it so his device(s) have a maximum cap.
So if your connection is a 20 Mbps down/5 Mbps up connection, if you wanted to you can set it so his maximum is 5 Mbps down/2 Mbps up.
That means he can only ever utilize a maximum of 5 Mbps period. And long as you make sure you don't throttle your own connection or to set yours really high, you will not be under the same restriction. Which means you can use both the remaining 15 Mbps that he cannot + the 5 Mbps that he can (so you basically share it).
You can also enable Quality of Service features on many routers that can either prioritize bandwidth to one computer over another, or prioritize certain apps/programs over others (like basic browser being prioritized over Netflix or torrents).
Adrian Rogers
This
Jaxson Butler
You’re already an asshole for having to get two separate internet lines for one house. Did you also arrange to get two separate plumbing systems?
Liam Wilson
Nah, some people just abuse their priviledges so no reason to give him anything. Plus, you give them an inch and they'll take a mile This won't be the last thing he asks for.
Elijah Perez
Where do you live that you can't just get unlimited internet...?
Henry Jenkins
What kind of internet are you paying for? What do you use it for? I hope there isn't a cap on it.
What he can do is set up his torrent program to only download torrents during the night from 02 to 06 or when you are at class etc. as to not impact your use.
I think you should cut him some slack since internet is so important these days and it probably sucks very much for him, just imagine yourself in his shoes.
Noah Ward
Fuck that. Your roommate is basically just a closer neighbor and nobody expects you to give your neighbors access to your internet.
Aiden Powell
And you're what most people would call a pushover, not everyone can afford to be so generous.
Thomas King
What dump of a country do you live in that 2 people using the same internet is going to affect you?
Isaac Brooks
I think you are a socially inept dumbass. I share Internet with 6 people and at least half of us use Netflix, often at the same time.
Joshua Turner
Fuck that. Absolutely fuck that. He's your roommate, not your fucking boyfriend. You don't need to share anything with him, especially if he does illegal shit online. Make sure he knows no means no and if he keeps pressing the issue then prepare to move out.
Nathaniel Clark
Depends on your internet plan. Is it unlimited and how fast is it. Can you do your stuff while he download a movie or watch a tv show on netflix? If you can do your stuff while he does hes, then let him use it. You have to help others in time of need.
If it impacts your internet speed too much you can tell him that you will allowe him to use the internet, but only when you dont use it OR if he cant do that ( you work/study at the same time) just give him some time period to do hes things.
I have learned in my life that its not a weakness to share with others, its your strenght. But with that said remember to not let anyone walk over you, give him what he needs with your conditions and if he breaks them, then cut him off.
Samuel Perry
Assuming it is fast internet and data is not a problem, I would just do it. If speed is a concern, setup QoS so it won't impact your speed. If torrenting is a concern, block that shit. If data is a concern, you need to limit that somehow. I have never had that problem, so I never looked into how to do that.
As for whether or not you are a bad person, I don't know. Helping him out seems like a trivial thing for you, but it helps him immensely. Being friendly with someone you live with is a good thing long term. Simply staying at home and watch Netflix is a great way to save money. Most other activities cost way more.
But you haven't given us any reason to why you don't want to share the internet. It seems more trivial than sharing electricity, water or heat with a person and I assume you split that bill equally too.
Adrian Martinez
Besides sharing Internet, I would also suggest to share Netflix account
Jose Turner
Came here to write this. That way youre being a bro, while prioritizing your own needs, and if hes being a little bitch and still cries about "muh streaming" and such cut him off, and dont feel bad cause youre not in the wrong here.
Levi Stewart
> x has different view on y than me, so hes an asshole Are you seriously this retarded? If you believe hes an asshole, then its also a truth that you are an asshole, since he has different view than you. Both claims are extacly equal by this logic. So, im afraid you just proven yourself what you acuse him of.
Ethan Bailey
OP, you haven't replied to a single post here with people asking there's a cap on your data or whatever, so I don't know, but honestly, I think you're being an asshole.
I think this could be reasonably solved by offering to let him use it for a short period of time (let's say 3 months), and letting him know it's until he gets back on his feet and finds a job that pays what he needs.
But let him know that you're not just going to foot the bill for him entirely forever - that's just silly. If he wants to use it, he needs to contribute. It's like any other utility in the house.
I will say that two internet lines was stupid and wasteful though, unless there's some kind of cap like other anons were talking about.
Juan Scott
>roommate lost his job and asked if he could sleep in my bed with me >i told him if he wants that arrangement he's gonna have to pay half the rent >he said no
wow OP, you are an awful human being! /s /reddit
Ryder Rivera
Kinda selfish imo And why can’t you befriend your roommate? It would probably make things more enjoyable
Jonathan Garcia
OP's obviously an introvert. In the OP, he literally states that most days, OP holes himself up in his room.
Michael Young
You have every right to do this but come on help the guy out it could do you good. Do you believe in karma?
Andrew Myers
I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's probably on the autistic spectrum. I'm going to continue giving you the benefit of the doubt and assume you aren't either of these You probably have never had any friends or normal social interaction. How would you take it if your car had a flat and for whatever reason your phone was dead and you didn't have a spare tire so you walk into the closest gas station and ask to use the phone to call for help and instead of letting you call the attendant tells you to go fuck yourself unless you pay part of the phone bill? Why are you so commited to not being friends? You sound like a cunt.
Carson Lopez
I could understand if you guys were best friends or something but if you're just guys who happen to live in the same house but treat other's rooms as essentially a dorm or apartment, then you're just neighbors. You're not an asshole because you don't want to share what you pay for, what retarded logic is that? The idea that you're an asshole because you don't partake in charity is stupid.
Brandon Torres
I dont even knkw how to respond to this. I really tried to dial down to your level but my brain simply wont run so slow. Guess i could make an effort and provide an example as inane and irrelevant to the subject as you and then proceed to make some weird missed projections and offend you a little for a nice finish but i feel like its just a wasted effort, so heres a (you) and dont forget the notch on your "internet arguments won" table.
Dorms usually only have 1 connection that everyone shares
Matthew Ramirez
You owe him nothing. Being "just roommates", it's strictly a business arrangement like any other. He's the type that would quickly turn abusive if you dated him. He already assumes that just because you're female that you should baby him as if he were your child.
I am a 40 year old man with a lot of life experience. I've had MANY roommates and the majority would not act like him.
Jeremiah Cruz
You sound like a complete jew and I'm happy I don't have to share a flat with someone like you.
Christopher Miller
You are an idiot and probably a mooch. So...since it's a new day...
How you doing Mr. Moocher? Would you like your dick sucked with a side of toys you fucking moocher? I guess every woman is your personal ATM, Mr. Moocher.
Get. A. Job.
...and stop blaming Jews for your moochy, parasitical ways, Mr. Moocher.
Caleb Miller
>I really don't feel like I owe him anything. I pay the entirety of my internet bill and I don't want to share. You're correct and that's your right, you're totally valid here. His behavior is entitled, and just because he took a job cut, doesn't mean you should have to pay for his mistakes. He needs to be a man and take account for his own actions, responsibilities, and life, even if that means not having internet for a while. That's just life. You kindly offered to share if he payed half, you didn't even have to do that. You're in your right to even say no if you want. The fact you offered to share, fairly, like that should be a good gesture. The fact he's not happy at your kind offer shows how bratty and entitled he's become. Perhaps this attitude has something to do with his trouble at work?
Anyway, no worries mate.
I'm speaking from experience of living with roommates for 7 years.
Robert Jones
He's not the guy's mother, he owes him nothing for free. It was an agreement. Just because it's something you wouldn't do, something different from your own life and perspective, doesn't make OP an asshole. They had an agreement --- which mean's he AGREED. It doesn't matter if 100 people can use it fine, OP owns the line, he's his to do whatever he wants with. In essence it's his property. >You have to help others in time of need. Op said they're not friends. And no, you don't have to help others. If you had to, then it wouldn't be called charity, it would be called something else. Can't remember... it's a three-letter word... Actually this is good idea. Roommate can't pay you, but is there something else he can exchange OP? >I think you're being an asshole. I live in a building with maybe 50 other people. By your logic, i must be a huge asshole. >Do you believe in karma? Do you believe in morals? It's an internet connection. What do you think, the great internet god of Kek is going to lay retribution upon the soul of OP because he didn't whore out his line (that he pays for himself) to every bum who asks for it? >Your hah almost got me Another good idea, especially if you can throttle it. But that doesn't account for his illegal activity putting you in risk. He sounds very FAIR and I wish I had roommates like him.
Wew. There... I feel better now.
Jose Wilson
Hello, I'm a theoretical physicist. You are not on my level intellectually nor socially, and I think you are a dumb cunt and a fucking autist. Cheers.
Owen Ramirez
The problem is, OP asked if he was an asshole for not doing something. He did not give any indication to why it would be any inconvenience to himself other than it was a thing they agreed on earlier.
In order to agree with OP, I need to know why he won't do it. Any reason will do here. From his own description, he is an asshole, because all we can do is apply the logic from our reality to his situation to fill in the blanks. And where I live, internet costs about 2 meals from mcdonalds / month, you have unlimited data and it is as fast as the delivery method allows. In my flat, we use a phone line to get internet, so I only have 80/30Mbit, but sharing that with my neighbor would not impact my life at all. And if they just want to watch netflix/youtube, who cares? >even if it was for free? yes, I care more about what stuff people would bring onto the network and why. There are some fucked up attacks you can pull if you are on the same network, so I would like to know the people I share the network with. But OP is not letting a stranger onto his network. He is letting someone he lives with onto the network who presumably already have his own network gear, so he don't even need to share the same local network.
So from my perspective, I would just shout out the wifi password and let him watch netflix if he needs it that badly. I can always take it away if he abuses the trust.
Juan Watson
>In order to agree with OP, I need to know why he won't do it. No, it's unconditional. You're never an asshole for choosing not to share your own property. It's his property and he can do whatever he wants with it, unconditionally. If it was conditional, then it's not [completely] his property.