Mystery shcools of Rome and Greece vs. Christian "spirituality" and the 1960s

>Did you have a thesis here other than "I don't like those people, say I'm smart plz'?

All paths are leading to the same place which will result in yet more transformation. Trying to spin humanity backwards to some non-existent Judeo-Christian perfection is a joke.

Also, baiting Christians. I wan't to see how many people on /pol actually support it.

>Evolution doesn't work in dialectical cycles

You seem to be blissfully unaware of the tenets of Idealism, specifically the Absolute Idealism of Hegel. It postulates that cosmological formation is part of a rational process of becoming to bring higher and higher states of complexity into existence. But yeah, call my 12 because you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

You need a hobby, preferably something you can monetize, user.

>my central thesis.
>1) It's claims are not true.
What claims?
>2) It produces slaves submissive to the state who look for reward only after death (ha!)
Muh Slave Morality
>3) It's a middle-eastern death cult centered around a jew.
How is it a death cult?

Christianity needs a intellectual reawakening. More Christian teens in the US need to be able to quote Kierkegaard.

>Christianity may have provided cohesion culturally
This in itself is a meme. Christianity provided cohesion because Europeans took a JEWISH RELIGION and. for all intents and purposes, corrupted it with Greek philosophy and native European paganism. Whether anyone admits it or not, everyone is putting their faith in a made-up religion that is radically different from what was preached by Rabbi Yeshua ben Yosef to his entirely Jewish following.

Christianity is literally a cargo cult religion. Jews took a big fat shit on Rome and the Romans gobbled it up and turned a dead Jewish sect into an entirely new faith based on a complete misunderstanding of who Yeshua was and what he stood for.

What Christians, and even more so non-Christians alike could really use, isn't more abstraction, but sincere piety and devotion, and a disdain for all worldly things.

Christianity is a slave religion because it doesn't permit you to abuse drugs or masturbate.

t. Jew
Look up Julian the Apostate rebuilding the Temple at Jerusalem.

>anyone who doesn't worship my Jew is a Jew
Fuck off muppet

Super cool story bro
If you become a parent you will realize how important WESTERN CIVILIZED TRADITION is when raising children and why it's vastly superior to some ancient secret mystery school bullshit Crowley and Blavatsky used to masturbate to

Much like the Jews you are an enemy of God and Jesus Christ.

Oh no I'm an enemy of Jews. Ie: You.
Good.

This. The 60's twisted the meaning of freedon, just like we twist the meaning of love today. A literal slave is more free than a junkie. Muh "Christianity is a slave religion" is the excuse used by New Agers to let themselves surrender to every passion, be it drugs, faggotry, pan-hedonism in general. Some of them call this "paganism" to give their perversion legitimacy.

Yeah, the great pagans who praticed and exalted pederasty, infanticide, slavery, incest and the colisseum games. Truly enlightened.

>On July 19th, 362 A.D., Julian II arrived in Antioch to prepare for the invasion of Persia. He met with "the chiefs of the Jews." He assembled the chief among the Jews, and asked them why they offered no bloody sacrifices, since they were prescribed by their law.
>They replied, that they could not offer any but in the temple, which then lay in ruins..
>He promised: "I shall endeavor with the utmost zeal to set up the Temple of the Most High God." Whereupon he commanded them to repair to Jerusalem, rebuild their temple, and re-establish their ancient worship, promising them his concurrence towards carrying on the work.
>The restoration of the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem would, in Julian's opinion, defeat the Christian argument of replacement theology - that the Church was the true Israel, and that the Temple's destruction and the subsequent exile was the just punishment suffered by the Jewish people for the Crucifixion.
>The Temple's restoration would persuade Christian converts that God still favored the Jewish people.
>Also, As an army commander, embarking on a war against a formidable Persian enemy, Julian could also expect that the Jews of Mesopotamia would assist his legions.
>The Jews received this warrant to rebuild their Temple with inexpressible joy, and were so elated with it, that, flocking from all parts to Jerusalem, they began insolently to scorn and triumph over the Christians, threatening to make them feel as fatal effects of their severity, as they themselves had heretofore from the Roman powers.
>In his "Four Letters" addressed to the Jewish people, Julian recognized their dire situation and appealed to them to join him in his campaign. That's a vast difference from the Persian ruler Cyrus, who had only allowed the Jews to rebuild the Temple; Julian virtually ordered them to do so, and perhaps, upset by their initial hesitation, appointed Alypius, a pagan native of Antioch and his best friend, to supervise the work.

>I am an enemy of the jews by helping the jews hate the thing they hate
Goodest goy.

>The news was no sooner spread abroad than contributions came in from all hands. The Jewish women stripped themselves of their most costly ornaments to contribute towards the expense of the building.
>The emperor also, who was no less impatient to see it finished, in order to encourage them in the undertaking, told them he had found in their mysterious sacred books that this was the time in which they were to return to their country, and that their temple and legal observances were to be restored.
>He gave orders to his treasurers to furnish money and every thing necessary for the building, which would require immense sums: he drew together the most able workmen from all quarters, and appointed for overseers persons of the highest rank, placing at their head his intimate friend Alypius, who had formerly been Pro-prefect of Britain; charging him to make them labor in this great work without ceasing, and to spare no expense.
>The Jews were doubtless divided between those who believed that Julian was a savior and those who remembered Rabbi Simon Ben Eliezer's warning against the youthful enthusiasm of the second generation after the Bar Kochba disaster: "If children tell you: 'Go, build the Temple - do not listen to them.'"
>All things were In readiness, workmen were assembled from all quarters; stone, brick, timber, and other materials, in immense quantities, were laid in. The Jews of both sexes and of all degrees bore a share in the labor; the very women helping to dig the ground and carry out the rubbish in their aprons and skirts of their gowns. It its even said that the Jews appointed some pickaxes, spades, and baskets to be made of silver for the honor of the work.
>But the good bishop St. Cyril, lately returned from exile, beheld all these mighty preparations without any concern, relying on the infallible truth of the scripture prophecies: as, that the desolation of the Jewish temple should last till the end; and that one stone should not be left on another;

>Being full of the spirit of God, Cyril foretold, with the greatest confidence, that the Jews, so far from being able to rebuild their ruined temple, would be the instruments whereby that prophecy of Christ would be still more fully accomplished than it had been hitherto, and that they would not be able to put one stone upon another, and the event justified the prediction.
>They began to dig the new foundation, in which work many thousands were employed. But what they had thrown up in the day was, by repeated earthquakes the night following, cast back again into the trench.
>When Alypius the next day earnestly pressed on the work, with the assistance of the governor of the province, there issued such horrible balls of fire out of the earth near the foundations,' which rendered the place, from time to time, inaccessible to the scorched and blasted workmen.

>exalted pederasty,
Catholic priests and Jews regularly rape boys. So do Muslims. Catholics used to cut the balls off little boys so they would sing better in choirs.

>infanticide
Jews used to lob babies into pits of fire in Gehenna in devotion to Moloch. They also killed goy babies for blood rituals. You get your religion from them.

>incest
Shall we discuss how Jewish genetic diseases came about?

>colisseum games
The Colosseum was based as fuck and better than throwing rocks at people until they died.

>This is also recorded by the Christian authors, who, besides the earthquake and fiery eruption, mention storms, tempests, and whirlwinds, lightning, crosses impressed on the bodies and garments of the assistants, and a flaming cross in the heavens, surrounded with a luminous circle. The order whereof seems to have been as follows.
>This judgment of the Almighty was ushered in by storms and whirlwinds, by which prodigious heaps of lime and sand and other loose materials were carried away. After these followed lightning, the usual consequence of collision of clouds in tempests. Its effects were, first the destroying the more solid materials, and melting down the iron instruments; and secondly, the impressing shining crosses on the bodies and garments of the assistants without distinction, in which there was something that in art and elegance exceeded all painting or embroidery; which when the infidels perceived, they endeavored, but in vain, to wash them out. In the third place came the earthquake which cast out the stones of the old foundations, and shook the earth into the trench or cavity dug for the new; besides overthrowing the adjoining buildings and porticoes wherein were lodged great numbers of Jews designed for the work, who were all either crushed to death, or at least maimed or wounded.
>The number of the killed or hurt was increased by the fiery eruption in the fourth place, attended both with storms and tempests above, and with an earthquake below. From this eruption, many fled to a neighboring church for shelter, but could not obtain entrance; whether on account of its being closed by a secret invisible hand, as the fathers state the case, or at least by a special providence, through the entrance into the oratory being choked up by a freighted crowd, all pressing to be foremost.

>"This, however," says St. Gregory Nazianzen, "is invariably affirmed and believed by all, that as they strove to force their way in by violence, the Fire, which burst from the foundations of the temple, met and stopped them, and one part it burnt and destroyed, and another it desperately maimed, leaving them a living monument of God's wrath against sinners."
>This eruption was frequently renewed till it overcame the rashness of the most obdurate, to use the words of Socrates; for it continued to be repeated as often as the projectors ventured to renew their attempt, till it had fairly tired them out.

Jews hate white people, dumb faggot. Your fake religion makes no difference. Go suck their stumpy cocks like the good little Christcuck. Do their bidding at every turn. I'm sure they'll kill you last.

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My fake religion is the largest demographic in the world. NutSucc is but an ass hair in comparison.

>This miraculous event is related by the writers of that age; by St. Gregory Nazianzen in the year immediately following it; by St. Chrysostom, in several parts of his works, who says that it happened not twenty years before, appeals to eye-witnesses still living and young, and to the present condition of those foundations, "of which," says he, "we are all witnesses;" by St. Ambrose in his fortieth epistle written in 388; Rufinus, who had long lived upon the spot; Theodoret, who lived in the neighborhood in Syria; Philostorgius, the Arian; Sozomen, who says many were alive when he wrote who had it from eye-witnesses, and mentions the visible marks still subsisting; Socrates.
>The testimony of the heathens corroborates this evidence; as that of Ammianus Marcellinus, a nobleman of the first rank, who then lived in the court of Julian at Antioch and in an office of distinction, and who probably wrote his account from the letter of Alypius to his master at the time when the miracle happened.
>Libanius, another pagan friend and admirer of Julian, both in the history of his own life, and in his funeral oration on Julian's death, mentions these earthquakes in Palestine, but with a shyness which discovers the disgrace of his hero and superstition.
>Julian himself speaks of this event in the same covert manner. With Julian's death came the Emperor Jovian, a faithful Christian, and a Church-led assault on Jews and Judaism.
>The early church historian Socrates testifies, that at the sight of the miracles, the Jews at first cried out that Christ is God; yet returned home as hardened as ever.
>St. Gregory Nazianzen says that many Gentiles were converted upon it and went over to the Church.
>Theodoret and Sozomen say many were converted; but like the Jews, they evidently mean a sudden flash of conviction, not a real and lasting conversion.
>The incredulous blinded themselves by various presences: but the evidence of the miracle leaves no room for the least cavil or suspicion

Holy fuck you people are so salty. I hope you're looking forward to Christianity's evolution. Gnosis, paramilitary lifestyle, and love for the sake of love is the faith's new form. It will be the perfect tool to dispose of you psycho baby murderers.

If you want to be like Christ, pick up a martial art, go to the gym four times a week, and run to condition yourself for battle three times a week. Because that's what Christ does these days.

>My fake religion is the largest demographic
Good goy, make sure you racemix lots. You're "all one in Christ", remember?

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>I hate jews but lets attack the thing jews hate instead.
Who's really the goodest goy?

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>"Worship my Jew or else you're a Jew"
Stunning and brave.

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Racemixing is a Jewish plot. For 1900 years, nobody thought that was what the verse meant.
It is plain and obvious that Jews infiltrated the church over the past hundred years, as they tried many times before. Jews pushed faggots and communists into the priesthood precisely so they could push Vatican II and undermine the legitimacy and authority of Christ. And it is plainly obvious that it will fail as it has before.

>0.5 shekels has been added to your bank account.

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your religion has the largest demographic in africa. Move there and live among your christian brothers.

>fedora the post

tl:dr The Christians, who had been persecuted and murdered and blamed for every disaster in Rome for three hundred years got legitimacy under Constantine. Constantine's successor Julian rejected this idea and decided to exalt the Jews in order to prove Christianity was fake. Julian and Jews from all over the Empire came to Jerusalem to rebuild the Temple and prove that Christ's prophecy that not one brick would remain on another was bunk. When they started that construction, the earth itself resisted first with storms and earthquakes, which undid the work and killed many Jews staying near the work site, and finally with fire and explosions from the earth itself, which killed and maimed thousands every time they tried to lay the foundation stone until everyone involved was frightened away and the project was abandoned.
This event was recorded by Jews, Christians, and Pagans who witnessed it.

And America, Russia, Spain, etc. I'll go where i damn please. :)

>It is plain and obvious that Jews infiltrated the church over the past hundred years
Longer than that. You can't keep them out because at the end of the day Christianity worships a Jew. All of the Sabbatean-Frankists who "converted" and become nobles just prior to taking over all Western finance have since renounced their fake faith and are active practicing Jews again. A la Rothschild.

Christianity has always been the attack vector through which Jews control the West. Any resistance to them has been sporadic and incidental, and anyone who says otherwise is a LARPing moron. The popes made special protections for Jews in the 1100s. Muh based Catholics is a fucking meme.

>Jeez, goyim! Worship my Jew already or else!!!!!

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>Destroying christianity has been a jewish campaign since its conception
>LOL YOU HAVE TO HATE ALL CHRISTIANS BECAUSE THEY'RE KIKES
>why not attack the kikes?
>YOU'RE A JEW!!!!!
This is what tools do.

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Christianity has been the faith of Emperors far longer than ot was the faith of slaves.

>>It is plain and obvious that Jews infiltrated the church over the past hundred years
>Longer than that.
Yes, that's what "as they tried many times before", including in the 1100s.
>You can't keep them out because at the end of the day Christianity worships a Jew.
No. Christianity worships the one true God. The Jews were merely the vector by which he sent his son. In the end they killed him.
>All of the Sabbatean-Frankists who "converted" and become nobles just prior to taking over all Western finance have since renounced their fake faith and are active practicing Jews again. A la Rothschild.
That happened before too. What of it? The truth will win in the end.
>Christianity has always been the attack vector through which Jews control the West.
The Jews had more influence in Rome before Christianity came along. The Emperors always had a court Jew.
>Any resistance to them has been sporadic and incidental, and anyone who says otherwise is a LARPing moron.
That explains the repeated expulsions
>The popes made special protections for Jews in the 1100s.
Yes, when Jews infiltrated and even sat a Jew on the papal seat. And when they were discovered for what they were, they were cast out and those special protections were revoked.
Just like they will be when the church rejects Vatican II.

...do i need to get pics of nigger pagans and cherry pick just like you? fucking queer.

take your luciferian newage aquarius shit elsewhere. if Christianity is slavery, then bonds of brotherhood are forms of enslavement, or marriage is enslavement.

this microcephalic macho Nietzsche tier faggotry that comes from paganlarpers and atheist+ types is demented, and comes from the minds of a generation of physically and mentally emasculated men raised by single mothers.

the sheer amount of arrogance, lack of historical and philosophical understanding, and poor attitude should wake all of you guys up. you all can see or at least sense this as I do. only through Christ can we climb out of the pit that we made for ourselves.

He knows, he's a shill.

I attack all of you because you're dumb shabbos goyim and the kikes are obviously our enemies. You can pretend to be "redpilled" all you want but 99.9% of your fake religion still worships Jews and does Jewish bidding. There is no picture you can post or words you can write that will change this as it is objective reality. Christians do whatever Jews tell them to, including sending their kids off to go get blown up for them in the Middle East. The amount of Israel worship in the USA is sickening.

>Yes, that's what "as they tried many times before", including in the 1100s.
Successfully* tried. They're still in control of all the finances hundreds of years later. Now they control all governments, media, and culture, INCLUDING the church. There's no indication whatsoever that this will change. In fact it looks like the opposite, it will only get worse. White people will be minorities in their own lands throughout Europe by the middle of this century. There will be no reversal from this fate.

>No. Christianity worships the one true God.
No, Christianity worships a Jew who proclaimed himself the son of the Jewish god. Jesus didn't even preach to Gentiles.

>The Jews were merely the vector by which he sent his son.
And this is exactly the kind of cringe fanfiction I expect Christians to regurgitate. "Jews are super duper special! So God decided to incarnate as one and LARP as a Jew for 30 years until he decided to go preach to Jews about Jewish stuff." There were hundreds of millions of people in the world, thousands of different cultures and religions, yet your God specifically chose an insular barbaric desert tribe? Why? Why are Jews special? Because Jews say so?

>That happened before too. What of it? The truth will win in the end.
There's no truth in worshiping a David Koresh cult. There's no argument a Christian can give against "diversity", "multiculturalism", or open borders, because doing so violates your own religion.

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>99.9% of your fake religion still worships Jews and does Jewish bidding.
What Jewish bidding?
>Christians do whatever Jews tell them to, including sending their kids off to go get blown up for them in the Middle East.
This is a recent development from Christians losing the culture war
>There's no indication whatsoever that this will change. In fact it looks like the opposite, it will only get worse.
He said, masturbating his cut cock furiously.
There are plenty of indications, young fool.
>White people will be minorities in their own lands throughout Europe by the middle of this century.
Sure they will. That's why they're fighting back right now.
>There will be no reversal from this fate.
There's already a reversal. The EU and Jewish plans will not survive another ten years.
>No, Christianity worships a Jew who proclaimed himself the son of the Jewish god. Jesus didn't even preach to Gentiles.
Wrong on every count.
>And this is exactly the kind of cringe fanfiction I expect Christians to regurgitate. "Jews are super duper special!
"Children of their father the devil"
"Synagogue of Satan"
"Opponents of all men"
"Jews in Christ are no different than Greeks in Christ, God is no respecter of persons"
"Their branch has been cut off from God"
>God specifically chose an insular barbaric desert tribe?
They were not insualar or barbaric. Israel was the crossroads for all trade between Europe, Asia, and Africa. What better place to plant the Truth and be sure it would spread to the whole world?
>There's no truth in worshiping a David Koresh cult. There's no argument a Christian can give against "diversity", "multiculturalism", or open borders, because doing so violates your own religion.
How does it violate our religion? Because you found a verse somewhere that you took out of context?

Everything you believe is convoluted thanks to the numerous memefographs shills and retards spam on here. You are not going to win over anyone if you keep using every fallacy in the book to push your arguments.

this is such disinfo its not even funny

>There were hundreds of millions of people in the world, thousands of different cultures and religions, yet your God specifically chose an insular barbaric desert tribe?
What if you've made a mistake and He really did?

Paganism is a joke and you know nothing about Christianity let alone history. Whatever one may say about the Christian faith, Aristotelian arguments for the existence for an all powerful, immaterial God that transcends both time and space are reasonable.

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>Christianity is literally a cargo cult religion.
This is literally 'y-y-you're a dumb dumb!'.
>corrupted it with Greek philosophy and native European paganism.
Aristotelian philosophy i.e. his metaphysics and logic were utilized to reason about theological disputes and different festive practices from pagans were integrated because they were not antithetical to Christian faith.
More like Aristotle and Aquinas.