>just give people $1000 a month
>look at all these (((studies)))
>the corporations will benefit
Why do commies not understand that the increase in efficiency already benefits consumers. The things they are already buying COST LESS because of this. They don't need that $1000 given to them. They are already getting it. Why are these people allowed to live. Fuck them. Fuck them all. It is time to get out the fucking rope. Make the choice. Stop the nonsense.
Commie 2020 Candidate on Rogan
fuck joe roga, first he shills for twitter, now hes shilling for socialims? WTF
muh safe space
why rogan allow different opinions on his show?? :(
This guy is using ever bit of newspeak, mind reading, appealing to pathos and the like...what a god damn joke. Forget all logic - let's just make projections and appeal to emotion because that is all that matters
>calls himself a serial entrepreneur
>hasn't done shit but working for obama wh
what a joke
>Why do commies not understand that the increase in efficiency already benefits consumers.
Chinese effieciency and shitty consumer products getting worst every year. Fuck yourself Libertarian.
>The things they are already buying COST LESS because of this.
Because they're made shitty and in China.
>hey don't need that $1000 given to them. They are already getting it.
As long as people like you are their main opposition, Communism will win.
kill yourself tranny
>>hasn't done shit but working for obama wh
this is what i dont get, why are all polititans from that era are just a bunch of socialists?
Guy seems obsessed with truckers and taking away their jobs through automation. POS Obama chinese communist.
>tranny flag
You're a special kind of retard.
In the very near future "AI" and automation is gonna replace a big number of the human workforce.
When this happens, you're gonna have to start creating lots of new jobs that pay a living wage or see societal unrest rise up.
The former is not gonna happen overnight and you will be left with a big gap in consumer abilities.
Losing 40% of the consumer base is not gonna even out with "lower prices because no need to pay robots a wage".
UBI is genius, especially for capitalists as you then increase the purchasing power of the consumers, leading to higher profits.
This is why I say you're a special kind of retard, the kind that argues against your own self-interests.
you're a very confused and stupid individual
why are asian americans so fucking dense and crazy?
FREE MONEY WHERE DO I SIGN UP???????
you don't need to create more jobs. You have people living a higher standard of living where that standard of living is available with only one individual in a family working. The workforce can absolutely shrink. What sort of education are they giving you in your country?
>calls others retards
>cannot comprehend market shifts
how fucking pathetic
kiss my big boi dick tranny fuckers
why does a UBI sound look a good idea right now
because you're an idiot?
>broken window fallacy
>predicting market future
>predicting consumer trends
>ignoring debt burden
>ignoring future debt obligations
my company moved manufacturing to china. its now so cheap to build a widget that when one does fail, (which isnt any worse than it was before, it just seems that way because we're selling so many more because they're so cheap) we are able to just send the customer a replacement for free. we were able to get rid of our entire service and repair department because its cheaper to just replace the widgets than repair them. customers are now paying less than half what they did 10 years ago. the quality is fine. when they do occassionally fail, we straight up replace it, no questions asked and dont even ask you to send the old one back. and no we didn't fire the service team, we needed them to do other jobs because orders have increased so much. you do not have a clue what you're talking about.
Yang is a classic sales guy (oh, look he has a JD and no actual experience)
>I'm a serial entreprenuer
>look at all the silicon valley people I talk to
>UBI is totally going to work even though it hasn't everywhere it has been tried
>did I mention all the big bankers and silicon valley people I talked to
>let put out some numbers that mean nothing
>I'm so great, I love entrepreneurs!
this guy is a moron.
>you're stupid
Pathetic.
>When my company's shitty Chinese made products fail we just replace them because it's cheap.
Yeah, great. Not inconvienant at all. As long as the warrenty is still there. There was a time when products would last generations, but thanks to scum like you we live in a world of paper houses and garbage.
>we were able to get rid of our entire service and repair department by giving jobs to Communists in China! Then we re-hired some of our skilled labor people to take orders on the phone!
Exaclty. TREASON.
how many times do you think he'll say the word entrepreneur lol
Joe HOGAN needs to stop smokin de HEEFER
First Ted Cruz now this guy. Whats up with all these leafs trying to become president?
Giving UBI is "socialist" lol
The absolute state of the political discourse
ubi doesn't even make sense on paper. even if you just fluff it up in the abstract.
>you're going to give everyone free money?
Well, we're going to give everyone money, but it's from a pool that comes from tax money.
>Who pays into the tax pool?
Everyone in the country who pays taxes.
>So I'm going to give you money, and you're going to give me money ?
Yes, and of course now we have all these government employees who are processesing all the paperwork and getting the checks to everyone and accepting payments and following up on questions and complaints and issues.
>so I give you money, you use a part of it to pay yourselves, and then what's left you give back to me?
Yes.
>So I had to give you money, so that you can give me back less money?
Yes, but we'll also give some of that money who didn't pay as much in taxes as you did.
>Why would I want to do that?
Because equality m8. We don't care that you worked harder. For some reason us commies are obsessed with everyone getting the same amount of money regardless of the amount of work they put it.
>getting things delivered to your door with zero shipping cost, free replacement and extremely inexpensive price is inconvenient
this is the future you chose, retard
Do you want a higher standard of living (via inexpensive products) or do you want a lower standard with supposedly higher quality but more expensive products. Your lack of understanding to the nuance of the manufacturing world - "muh treason" is an indication of what a brainlet you are. Don't blame manufacturers for adapting to a market demand. Voters and politicians could have put in the barriers that prevented this but you were all too happy to get your $250 48" flat screen television and $800 smart phone that BTFO even desktop computing power from a decade ago.
Also
>everything made in China
>other manufacturing bases don't exist
How dumb. Ever heard of Italy or Taiwan? They're huge - high quality manufacturers. Go cry some more, faggot.
ruh roh
dont forget kamala
our failure rate hasn't gone up but our costs are down and sales are up. we get more failures because we have more sales but not a higher percentage.
>>So I'm going to give you money, and you're going to give me money ?
kek
>pro-entrepreneur
>commie
UBI is extremely dysgenic and creates a permanent underclass
"data driven" is a keyword for full of shit. Waiting for the inevitable "machine learning" and "AI"...oh wait, he already said those.
>saying you are pro entrepreneur mean that you are
let me introduce you to the politically manipulative concept of pathos...
>our failure rate hasn't gone up but our costs are down and sales are up. we get more failures because we have more sales but not a higher percentage.
So you're the position to even know that or you're just making that up? Either way, you're a treasonous walmart-tier boomer rat funding a foriegn Soviet state that wants to kill us all. See you in the gulags moneybags.
im a millenial, unfortunately. im not going to tell you what my company is but im privy to the numbers. and those are the facts. maybe for some companies youre right but not mine. so whats your argument?
>providing a consumer demand at the price point they want makes you a treasonous collaborator
grow the fuck up, brainlet. Manufacturers will shift to whatever the market allows or demands. YOU created this. Go sell your TV, computer and cell phone if you're so concerned with supporting the enemy. You benefited. We've all benefited. Grow up, cuck.
Now he is advocating for the taxpayers eating the debt of all college students. That's 1.4 Trillion Dollars. These guy is the same sort of moron that peddles the same fucking bullshit over and over. How about we stop subsidizing education you fucking piece of shit.
>Gives everyone $1000/mo
>Cost of living goes up $1000/mo
That's just how capitalism works.
They have to know this, and are just counting on gibs emotions
He is continually point toward things that are already subsidized being too expensive and his solution is to subsidize it further by appealing to emotion. The gall of these people.
>advocating
then im owed reparations for the debt i paid. i would go stop paying taxes if the govt ever "free" money to forgive student loans.
Alex jones trash him again yet?
Shut the fuck up retard.
When we talked about protective tariffs and worker protections, (((free trade))) kikes like you reeeeee’d your heads off. Now all the good manufacturing jobs are gone but at least we get cheap cell phones!
>ad hominem
Wow great argument leaf
Probably
>implying I'm against those things
How unexpected that a brainlet like you would partake in black and white thinking. Deal with the reality, dumbshit.
>RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Why do boomer conservatives and turning point faggots cry about us trying to protect our workers
literally nobody in this thread has done this. You faggots just like sitting in a fucking purity tower while people working the real world deal with just that - REALITY
The reality that you apparently gleefully support a declining job pool in America because muh cheap stuff? We all know what (((you))) were saying 15 years ago. Also I like your Boomer tier “the standard of living has increased because you have a color tv” thinking.
>American
>calling somebody a retard
Im not saying anyone is, but anytime anyone suggests preventing us from getting pimped out theres always some outcry
you had better hope i never become president because if i do i swear to god, we will open up a volcano and throw every last commie in it.
>they are already getting it
According to whom? (((Experts?)))
>swede thinks he can insult americans.
>gleefully supporting
more mind-reading, faggot
standard of living - in all metrics - has increased. It has because of consumer and voter choice - not because of the choices of manufacturers and the like. Have an honest conversation for once in your life, faggot.
>sweden
>having anything to say regarding anything
Math and reason.
"Hey, just cause my predecessor's country is a dystopian communist wasteland without a modicum of respect for individual liberty, I'm gonna ensure yours is too and hide under a thin, overtly transparent veneer of measured, reasonable progressivism while doing it"
I liked it. Automation is coming fuckers, you can't deny it...
Its always been coming. History has been a non stop increase in efficiency. People will find new shit to do creating jobs just like always.
If anyone gave a fuck about the workers they would stop immigration.
>People will find new shit to do creating jobs just like always.
like what? twitch streaming? youtube? the only things that can't be automated:
- manual labor and trades (nobody wants to do this)
- jobs that require high expertise (most people are too stupid for such jobs)
or did you mean "coding" hahaha?? everybody learn to code...
>automation means we need to give people free shit up-front
>pushing for post scarcity levels with near free energy (gen V nuclear) means we need to give free shit
Why would the market need to provide upfront consumer spending money if the market is already providing near free consumer goods? Absolutely absurd.
Can I get a direct quote from Math? Even reason would do!
>Commie 2020 Candidate on Rogan
shocker
People are not too stupid, clowns like you and the other kikes have convinced them of that
>being a dense, smarmy faggot as an argument
It's all just another untenable campaign promise, part of a winning presidential election strategy
>Be candidate
>come up with ridiculous policy that wont get through legislature, but will be supported by normies and retards across the political spectrum
>(Legal weed, build a wall, free college for all, UBI, Green New Deal)
>Rational or partisan legislators will never pass it.
>Push true agenda.
The truth is shit like this is pie-in-the sky to get votes from stupid people. It's a throw-away. They have other plans when they get into office usually. If anything, they have one campaign promise that they try to push, which has maybe a 50/50 chance of actually passing.
>People are not too stupid,
you need lots of work and dedication to become expert on something. Would you take financial advise from someone who took a 3 month online course?
Clear and distinct plan.
>It's great, you all pay me.
>and I pay you...less
>So we all get money!
>YEEEEEEAAAAH
yep, this is another valid viewpoint on this.. I guess politics is just a waste of time for NPCs.
Yes. The DNC goes for more of the appeal to emotion and the GOP goes for "patriotism" and alluding to some vague ethos (usually christian)
honestly, this guy is so far left he seems like a shill to make people like sanders seem reasonable. he probably doesn't even know he's being pushed as a shill.
The best way to fix society isn't giving free money away.
We need to stop all immigration, focus on our own people.
If companies need more workers, they need to work with schools of from High school, college and Uni and get people into those fields.
Get them trained.
That's the only way to fix this nonsense.
yeah but thats racist.
>our government is terrible at everything, exept for sending out cheks to everyone.
so this faggot wants to give everyone free money and go to war with russia?
>if russia does this we will do something serious!!!
oh, like economic sanctions? fucking retard doesn't even realize we already do this type of shit.
I'll give him one thing, he's put more thought into his plan than most... Still untenable though.
essentially he wants to solve all financial problems that were caused by government subsidies by subsidizing all of them further.
>asians are smart
Another party of davos faggot that thinks they know what is best for everyone and everything because of their 115 IQ midwit echo chamber full of silicon valley assholes and venture capitalists
So Joe is with a potential president that talks about how automation will kill jobs and he doesn't ask about the horde of foreign and even less trained people coming in illegally supported by democrats?
if you give everyone 1,000 dollars, you haven't given anyone anything. All you've done is dramatically reduced the value of the existing money. Also the dollar would collapse worldwide, and they guy promoting this is chinese. Imagine my shock.
Wouldn't it just devalue the currency
Rogan is kike zogbot of course he wont
Is there any credible evidence that Russians botted or tried to sway opinions to the extent he and others are claiming?
people like this can't be reasoned with. what you said is so obvious, there is nothing to add. that's why he is dumb enough to think equality is sometimes virtuous, that we should strive for it. inequality is precisely what gives anything value. if it rained diamonds, diamonds wouldn't be worth anything. theyre valuable because they're difficult to attain. they represent something that not everyone can get.
Joe (((Rogan))) the CIA plant. Stop advertising here.
how about ubi for citizens only, and the money to pay for that is only paid by non citizens, and lets impliment a maximum wage for illegals. you can hire illegals but you cant pay them more than minimum wage otherwise you're commiting a federal crime..
No. Just some random Facebook ads and Instagram accounts that other bots subscribed to. also some shitty memes nobody paid any attention to. Trolls on Jow Forums had more of an influence on the election than Russians
they have absolutely nothing. ZERO evidence of any sort that Russia did anything. I'm sure they did something because obviously every government is tryin to hack everyone else but i dont believe they have a shred of evidence.
Yup, it would. Imagine how much control China could get over America if we devalued our currency. We've been in a currency war with China for over 70 years.
If people are cheating the system now they'd still find a way to cheat it then
fuck Jow Forumstards and conservacucks lol
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death penalty?
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