J.R.R Tolkien

Catholic church was corrupted by Sauron. Just like he did with Númenor

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Good Goy. Now pay me money to get into heaven.

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nah, he hated fascists and jews, so he's not your guy. you sick combination of both.

How does it feel to be mentally retarded? Do you perceive time differently than normal people, like super-fast or in slow motion? Do you struggle with basic everyday activities?

He was keen on Franco. But then, was Franco a fascist? No, not really. Just a good old military dictator who ruled a coalition that included fascists.

I have a theory that the Nazgul getting duped by Sauron with the rings is a metaphor for western nations and their royalty being duped by the jewish banking cartel.

Drop the theory. He wasn't doing allegory.

Tolkien was badass. He could never be your guy, but if you try very hard, you might qualify to be his guy.

Wrote nice ,complicated fairy tales. Was,a pussy !

Rich, coming from a WASP that brought slaves here to begin with.

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>prot cuck rambling

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yes he is ourguy

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bump

Old Mercian --- the Old English dialect of his home-county and mine.

What blend of tobacco did he smoke?

west saxon is and will always be superior

>inspired by Norse paganism

You mean german.

>Tolkien got the main symbols in The Hobbit from Richard Wagner’s Ring cycle, but he was testy and sensitive whenever Wagner’s name was mentioned. The problem was Wagner’s anti-Semitism. The English had a long history of philo-Semitism that did not mesh with Wagner’s views, leading to an artistic conflict that Tolkien could not resolve, and ultimately to an incoherent book. In purging Wagner’s symbols of their anti-Semitism, Tolkien purged them of their meaning as well, for the real issue in Wagner’s Das Rheingold is capitalism, not anti-Semitism. And if Capitalism is the real issue, England must be the villain, which is unacceptable to Tolkien, an English patriot. Once rearranged to suit English sensibilities, though, those symbols lose their power, meaning, and coherence.

- E Michael Jones

amazon.com/Tolkiens-Failed-Quest-Michael-Jones/dp/1521406812/

It was the literary-standard dialect for England, no doubt. (It was so from about the 10th century.) But I like the forms of Old Mercian. No breaking before l/r, etc, e.g., cald rather than ceald (cold). Modern English is mostly descended from Mercian and not West Saxon.

>It was the literary-standard dialect for England, no doubt. (It was so from about the 10th century.) But I like the forms of Old Mercian. No breaking before l/r, etc, e.g., cald rather than ceald (cold). Modern English is mostly descended from Mercian and not West Saxon.

Go on YouTube and look up Ryan Reeves lecturers

yeah but isnt it a lot closer to frisian than the saxon dialect? anyway i guess im pretty biased since im from the west country.

No, Germanic, and of course, more specifically, Old English.

éala éarendel engla beorhtast
ofer middangeard monnum sended

E. Michael Jones is perhaps the worst source you could go to on Tolkien. His sources were not Wagner. Also, he wasn't testy about anti-Semitism; he was testy about being forced into things.

Old English is close to Old Frisian. I don't know about any particular dialect being closer, but I suppose it would be the Saxon rather than the Anglian dialects (but then again, maybe not). The differences between the dialects of Old English (West Saxon, Kentish, Mercian, Northumbrian) were slight.

Check out Catholic videos on LOTR
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Is Ryan Reeves Catholic? I think he's a Protestant-lite. If he is, he's one of the few good prots on yt.

So why haven't we fucking adopted Dwark or Elvish writing and alphabet from Tolkein ?
Would it be hard to learn ?

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Why not just learn Old English? It's fully functioning and beautiful.

I want a language that will be impossible for shitskins to understand

Well, they certainly won't understand Old English. Not an easy one to understand.

éala éarendel engla beorhtast
ofer middangeard monnum sended
and sodfasta sunnan leoma,
tohrt ofer tunglas þu tida gehvane
of sylfum þe symle inlihtes.
Swa þu, god of gode gearo acenned,
sunu soþan fæder swegles in wuldre.

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I’m not 100% sure but I think you might be right. His lectures on prot, cat, pagan, and lotr are all pretty good I think

>Ryan Reeves
I really like listening to his stuff.

oops, just realized I forgot to link lol

Yeah, he's well balanced and covers much of Church history without being boring or overly pedantic.

yea that Early & Medieval Church History seriest was really interesting

I think he's Reformed Protestant.

youtu.be/ndEWof-8xTY

this is part 1 of 2 of a great explenation on tolkiens world and how it mixed values of pagans and christianity but it's not to be mistaken for an allegory on christianity.

>not real Christcuckery
>based protestants like Merkel
>and Bush
>and all evangelical Zionists

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>he wasn't testy about anti-Semitism
He was a philo-semitic Jew lover who hated Hitler and equated the Third Reich to Mordor. In his own words. Nice try though.

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TOLKIEN
ANARCHO-MONARCHISM

Unlike modern fantasy writers, Tolkien (and C.S. Lewis) actually were geniuses, scholars, and masterful weavers of prose.

Old Toby, of course

i always knew that sauron was the good guy.

Father John Tolkien, son of JRR Tolkien, is a paedophile catholic priest.

What catholic message?

>Also, not related but never forget the 6 gorillion.

He was vehemently anti-Nazi and loved Jews.
Tolkein's work was Germanic and thus redpilled in many ways, but the man himself was a fool.

He literally stole the ring, gollum, the Germanic mythology, and the
Tolkein jacked it all and gives little credit to its proper creator, instead flaunting it as English nationalism. I mean this fuck refused to translate his book into German and spoke wonders of the Jewish people.

this

How can a man be so based?

Gandalf literally pulled a jesus

>Being a catholicuck
>not realizing Tolkein and CS Lewis were both fake Christians who were secretly involved with the Golden Dawn cult and communicated with the Rothschilds

Actually more of an Odin
Odin died and was reborn, then gains super wizard powers.
Bone up on your Havamal

He certainly hated Hitler. As for Jew-lover, no, far from it, though no doubt he had a blind-spot there. Nobody's perfect.

absolutely /ourguy/ nigga shouted responses in latin during Novos Ordo (post vatican II in English) mass until the day he died. Absolute shitlord. great lad

When asked of the origin of his name, he says that it's not Aryan and he wishes it were Jewish.

>disappointed in the lack of national myth such as those in Ireland or Wales in England
>decides to write his own
One of the best writers of the 20th Century and one of the biggest contributors to white culture of the century too.

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real niggaz comin though

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You have no idea what you are talking about?
Stole what? His sources are the same as Wagner's. Did Wagner "steal" these things?

He didn't refuse to have his books translated into German. Stop making things up. Both were translated into German in his lifetime. Because he gave permission.

Though he was not harsh about the Jews, you must understand his character. He had a strong contrarian-streak. If he was told to go along with something, he didn't. Your picture of a Jew-loving Tolkien comes from a few letters. That's it.

seeprots are literally goy slaves. Why do you think the media hates on Catholicism so much? (notable exception, Papa Frank, who is a terrible pope)

One letter sums up his life's beliefs and attitudes? Have you never written anything in anger? He was a little contrarian. Of course he didn't wish it was Jewish. He was fiercely proud of being a West-Midlander. If you knew even the slightest thing about the man, you would know this.

There isn't a single proof besides an allegation by a crazy protestant pastor that Tolkien was ever part of such cult.

>>not realizing Tolkein and CS Lewis were both fake Christians who were secretly involved with the Golden Dawn cult and communicated with the Rothschilds
God, this place is funny. Is there anyone not involved in the occult and with the Rothschilds?

He didn't love Jews, he just thought the nazis were autists who would kill nationalism (he was right). He was a total Franco-boo/Mussolini-boo

this

Tolkin is a full on reactionary monarchist
>the one true king must take power and save us all
>industrialization is for evil orcs
>things only went south with the kingdoms of man because a steward was on the throne instead of the real king

This. All these morons thinking he was a Jew-lover because he wasn't a Nazi and because, when pressured, he said things to piss off Nazis. (That letter was never sent, by the way.) He hated modern ideologies and he hated being forced into things.

He outright denies any validity to Aryanism and claims to personally know and respect many Jewish people.

Come the fuck on.
This "he was contrarian" shit is a crock of shit. He allied himself with state propoganda and the banking class. The only redeeming quality of LOTR is found in the Germanic pagan myths he coopted and called British Christianity while Wagner took the same material, wrote a Masterpiece at moved philosophers and revitalized Germanic Paganism at the height of romanticism in Europe. Yet very little, if any, credit is given to Wagner in Tolkein's work and even less by his slavish worshippers.

>h-he wrote he loves Jews and despised Nazis in anger to people asking him to translate his book into their language

Dude come the fuck on. This man was grade A golem material.

yes

>. Did Wagner "steal" these things?

Yeah and if I would now write a book with germanic themes and golden rings, I could claim I didn't copy it from Tolkien, I just had the same souce.

Listen, you nigger, by the time Tolkien wrote his book Wagner was a world renowned composer who made the Nibelungenlied famous with his Ring Trilogy. If he didn't know it, he must have been reatrded.

It's funny how the english can never acknowledge Germany. You little shithole island.

He and CS Lewis(his best friend)
Our both /ourguys/

All he cared about was rooting for his home team over his own race. He even denounces Aryanism and speaks on the quality of negros.

He was asked to translate a fucking book
And he was asked what the lineage of his name was. In both he denounces Aryanism and says he loves Jews.

How the fuck can't he make that any clearer?

He denied the validity of the term Aryan as a descriptor of a current race. And, technically, as a philologist, he was right.

Perhaps he liked some Jews. No-one's perfect. But he also said things that would get him called anti-Semitic these days.

>He allied himself with state propoganda and the banking class
Eh? Do you know anything about him? That is about as far from the truth of his actions and character as you can get.

>The only redeeming quality of LOTR is found in the Germanic pagan myths he coopted and called British Christianity
You really need to stop making things up now. He was an expert in Old English, knew the myths of the Germanic world, was inspired greatly by things like Beowulf, etc. He did not call these "British Christianity". The very term betrays your ignorance of the man. He did not like British things; he liked English things.

>very little, if any, credit is given to Wagner
Why would he credit Wagner? He thought very little of Wagner's myth-making. Unlike Wagner, Tolkien knew Germanic myth inside-out.

The British are the most arrogant pieces of shit on the planet. They'd claim Jesus were British if they actually gave a shit about religion. Of course they only care about money and power though, so they wouldn't bother with that.

Watching the decline of Britain into a cesspool of Tolkeinesc Uruks is the most fitting fate for a nation held so beloved by a cowardly scholar like J.R.R.

And we're back to that letter again (a letter, by the way, that was never sent). He, as an Englishman, was being asked by a foreign bureaucratic to prove his ancestry. I would tell 'em to piss off too. Wouldn't you?

Proof maybe for him being a pedophile ?

>claims to personally know and respect many Jewish people.
MFW hitlers driver was a kike.

>All he cared about was rooting for his home team over his own race. He even denounces Aryanism and speaks on the quality of negros.
Nationalism is better than racialism, not that niggers or jews can be english or german

He wasn't interested in Wagner's take on things. He didn't think much of his myth-making. Why would Tolkien turn to Wagner for these myths when he, Tolkien, an expert in Old English, Old Norse, Gothic, etc, could, unlike Wagner, read it all in the originals? Tolkien was inspired by all things Germanic: English, German, Norse, etc.

>It's funny how the english can never acknowledge Germany. You little shithole island.
Not me. Not Tolkien. He was - and I am - a Germanophile. But you sound bitter about things.

>perhaps he liked some Jews
Then he's bluepilled and not /ourguy/
Furthermore he was a Christcuck and that's an even bigger problem.
On the Aryanism, saying there's no validity to the Aryan phenomenon and historical fact of the invasion of Aryan steppe folk because there's no current race/language of that bearing is probably the most kike, worm-tongue response an "intellectual" could provide. He wa clearly trying to dance around the fact that his people are indeed Germanic (something he was loathe to fully acknowledge) and not some special snowflake race. Give me a break

I won't respond to your further "nitpick" style. You're here to argue like a butthurt redditard who's more interested in making a point than speaking Truth, truly (((Tolkein))) like if you ask me.

A big of part of the crazy accusation are made by shill leftist or tranny, If you have a bit of attention.

pan-racialism is retarded and anti-nationalist, and tolkein saw this.

I wouldn't say I wish I were Jewish and that Aryans aren't real.

Don't make excuses for a coward.

Why should white validity to Arianism ? When a lot of them are based and mythology and not science ?

>Is Tolkien ourguy?
His goal was to build a mythology that Anglo-Saxons could be proud of, so I'd say yes.

Racialism > Nationalism
America doesn't matter more than your race. Your state doesn't matter more than your ancestry. To Tolkein it did.

this is *possibly* true, unfortunately. there were accusations, but he was dead before they came to light. I unironically do not rule out the possibility of (((tricks))) in this particular case