Thoughts, he was on joe rogan like a day ago and I’m heavily considering him. Pro UBI candidate
he thinks the elite will coddle him with UBI instead of just killing him off when peak automation comes
If you want to see podcast
Very focused on automation
But UBI is capitalism
The state doesn’t own shit
you won’t own shit either when the robo-beaners take your shitty trucker job
He's a complete moron with a high schooler's understand of economics who thinks that all he has to do to get people to want universal basic income is cleverly relabel it as "the freedom dividend" and NOBODY WILL EVER NOTICE (even though he just said that's what he's doing).
He's not going to get very far since the lefties will vote for another vagina to rep them in 2020.
Yeah for all he says he cozies up to power brokers in DC, he is amazingly naive when it comes to how power works. For instance, he talks about changing the law so that citizens are afforded federal money that can only go to support various candidates for office, and he thinks that's a more fair system because it would benefit a small nobody running for office like him. But the actual powerful people -you know, those who could pass such a law- would be *disadvantaged* by it, and so they would NEVER support such a change.
Yeah I have a feeling they’re gonna imwithher warren into candidacy. Fuck I’m from mass but she’s basically a more liberal Clinton
communist government distribution of money-credits to citizens
you don't know what capitalism is, do you?
Don't be silly, Hillary is going to run again.
Pro UBI candidate
The serious candidates haven't announced yet. That's because there are campaign finance laws that kick in as soon as someone officially announces their candidacy. So the favorites delay it as long as possible so they can go to their fund raising dinners where they chage $50,000 for a plate and shit without the FEC breathing down their necks. The only people who have announced so far are fringe candidates who pretty much know they have no chance to win, but are throwing their name out there for other purposes, like building name recognition for a future run for other office.
Americans voting for an asian
Never gonna happen
Is he from cali?
But you still have to work to not be in poverty. Makes the government size smaller by eliminating all other welfare and beurocracy of it with it. Makes it so you’re not a wage slave that can’t quit his bullshit job so if anything makes the workers side of the market more competitive, rising wages and the economy
Dont trust the gook!
Warren and others have already announced
The moment niggers realize who this chink is and what he's about its a wrap. This dude will win, but sadly he's going to die as a result of his success.
New York, born in Schenectady
That's how you know she doesn't have a prayer.
I think he's from the east coast, New York to be specific. He graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard in Business and has still successful businesses that have not yet gone bankrupt.
Do you think what the USA has now is "Capitalism?" You're going to die poor.
UBI does literally none of that. Fuck, you don't understand the money supply either, do you?
He sold many of his business and taught vulture capitalism to the "chads" at Goldman for years.
And you'll never see a social security payout.
Brown and Columbia as well. From upstate New York successful entrepreneur
Dude I heard that he's sponsoring some random family in Deleware, basically giving them 1k a month as a dry run for his real plans. What a lucky fucking family..holy shit.
Depends on the style of UBI. That’s what he’s proposing
You should listen to his interview with Rogan and Sam Harris before you start making stupid shit up and put both feet in your mouth. There are definitely holes in his plans, but you're a dumb ass who voted for Trump because you thought you were going to get a tax cut and Mexico was going to build a giant wall on America's southern border.
If he said "Mexico will pay for it" would you believe it then?
You couldn't have said two worse things. Why do all the worst Jew-lovers who pretend to be from Cali come from NY?
is that supposed to be a good point?
Yet they elected a nigger
He says UBI is little more than a cushion against automation. It's meaningless because human nature is already hardly compatible with the existing system, imagine what will come after automation. It doesn't matter who you vote for modernity has fucked humanity completely.
I for one, welcome our new Chinese overlord.
Do you anons realize that there's an IBM AI chat bot here on Jow Forums and it was made by Jews?
Voting is a way of legitimising this tyranny so I can't do it anymore with a clear conscience.
Better than old fart John McCain who was completely out of touch with America and an evil Mormon fuck in Romney who choked away his chance at the Presidency.
Tell the UBI people they have to pay a basic tax of 90% to help the poor piss in the street.
Robo-beaners are gonna take your job either way
UBI will provide a certain level of economic freedom to a lot of young people as well as stimulating the economy. You're brain is just fried from the constant ZOG brainwashing. Trump won't save you (I'm assuming you aren't a jew) he wants unlimited LEGAL immigration, his own words btw. This man got 1.5 billion after he said he was going to make the dems give em 7.....let that sink in. The man is a zionist cunt and I hope he gets murked soon.
niggers are as natural to america, as whites are at this point
this is the point in the election cycle where all the grifters come out for free money or free publicity
No, they're just going to be two feet below me while I'm trying to walk the sidewalks.
get $1,000 a month
pay $30,000 a year in taxes to cover everyone else's $1,000/month
wow such a good deal
he was on joe rogaineee guys yaaas!!!
Joe Rogan is married to a Jewish leaf who has a daughter from a black guy
They'll either run Joe Biden or Beto. Watch.
How much did you get paid with your grad student stipend?
He's proposing a thousand dollars a month that you have to opt in for, for which every citizen (and since he's a leftist, he'll include illegals) is eligible. He's also not saying how the government would pay for his plan.
But what he's not talking about are the downstream side effects. 30 days after you implement a UBI, low income housing prices and food prices will have adjusted to counteract any stimulative effect of the money supply increase. In essence, he'll just have inflated the money supply to the tune of $300,000,000,000.
I hope he runs just to start the conversation about the future of robots and VR. He couldn't win, of course, but people need to wake up to our very grim near future.
I watched it last night.
Though I disagree with Yang no doubt on many things, it does seem he's trying to come up with an answer to automation. Most politicians ignore the issue.
One of two things will have to happen once we hit singularity, banning/limits on amount of robot workers or UBI
I dont plan on voting for him, but like I said he seems to actually be trying on the automation front and he's higher on my list of dems for it
Still gonna vote Trump though I think
Kill yourself, foreigner.
It's an AI. It only needs a little electricity. It's easy to tell which posters are IBM Debater after a while.
You can't even buy a closet in NYC for $100/mo (let's try to account for taxes) and that's even after rent control.
Try more like $1000/mo if you want to sleep on the roof.
mandatory civil service
people on UBI without jobs have to by law have sticker on all sides of their car and have a mark on their door
people on UBI pay higher fees and penalties (speeding tickets for example)
Then why are there so many niggers and beaners in NYC?
commie chink. so sick of the same fag bullshit ruining the country. no one believes in democracy anymore and it's hilarious to see candidates parade around morals as if they were thomas jefferson. america is too corrupt beyond belief.
if your platform literally does not involve hanging every illegal alien and government traitor, then you are wasting everyones time. trump has opened pandoras box and no one will return to the status quo. people want action, now, or else it may lead to a civil war.
yang is a fucking retard and has no idea what hes doing
lol, everyone is a bot ay?
I will say this though their are bots here and they all congregate in /ptg/
I'm sure you're a hasbara kike as well right?
It won’t inflate the economy because it’s coming from value added taxes mainly on the corporations profiting on automation
Also the point is it’s better to give the 50 unemployed by 2030 money then let them riot on the streets without even participating in the economy because they’re dying of starvation
I listened to the Rogan podcast. Yang understands that automation is coming, and he understands it's socially disruptive. But that's where his understanding of economics (and history, for that matter) ends. Guess what? There have been periods of massive automation in the past. And you know what happened? People adjusted and created new job sectors. That's what will happen when and if AI replaces drivers, too. You should listen to Jordan B. Peterson talk about. Want to know what he says about who's losing jobs fastest to technology? Lawyers. What's Yang's background again?
BTW, There was a Trump tax cut, and we're already building a wall. It would take the entire annual GDP of 200 mexicos to pay for one month of Yang's UBI. Maybe that'll put it into perspective for how fucking retarded of a plan it is.
if i put a jew thing on my door
blows my mind that anyone gives this obvious CCP plant the time of day. really shows how fucking rotten this country is that all you need to do is promise free money to get supporters. fuck america.
Yes, it's the corporations. Not the Jews.
#1 where does Yang get the money to give a free thousand dollars every month to three hundred million people?
#2 why do you think prices will not increase to match the influx of new money?
Banning robots is Luddite. It’s impossible and Uncompetitive/ inefficient. Eventually low skilled jobs will not exist and the day is rapidly approaching. I’d rather UBI capitalism than full blown socialism because those seem to be the only options
Yeah he was on Rogan that mean good huh? You fucking pleb.
Maybe we'll finally have time to band together around the campfire and sing songs with the rest of the village
How are Lawyer jobs losing to technology?
Automation isn't coming. You don't work in that field. How would you know? Just because some pothead and Chinese messiah told you on youtube?
And if you give every one of the 8-9 million people who live in New York City a free thousand dollars a month, you won't be able to sleep on a park bench for that much.
Banning you would be for the best.
Yeah probably. And they're both cancerous stool.
Who the fuck wants to sleep on a park bench in NYC? They even took out the electrical outlets from Penn Station because there were too many homeless people.
Thinks Yang posting is organic.
The guy isn't going to be a presidential candidate. This is just a splinter going as deep as it can into the govt. Chinese are millions into reddit and other online platforms. You are retarded if you think this shitty board isn't being pumped as well.
It won't inflate the *economy* it will inflate the *money supply* making the *purchasing power* of currency drop. I don't think you understand how a VAT tax works, let alone how corporations pay for taxes.
it’s better to give the 50 unemployed by 2030 money then let them riot
So his plan is to bribe poor people to not riot by giving them welfare. That's exactly the strategy that europe has been using for the past few decades. The result? Extreme poverty for the masses, ludicrous profits for the elites, and socialism importing hordes of rapacious muslims to genocide their native populations.
The guy isn't going to be a presidential candidate.
This, don't you have to reach a certain percentage during the primaries to participate in the debates? I don't think he even gets invited.
Most of the services that you would have had no choice but to pay a lawyer to do for you 30 years ago can be done by a clever person today by just searching it up on the internet. For example, writing a will, appealing a parking ticket, registering a business, and so forth. Since technology/automation amplifies the intellectual productivity of people, those jobs that relied on relatively menial intellectual work are among the hardest hit.
Never mind, the guy is clearly a dipshit
There are literally self driving cars on the streets right now.
lol but he is a presidential candidate and if he can attack this the right way and target the right people this is going to be a beautiful shit show. You can promise whatever you want but the moment the huddled masses hear "free money" that's a wrap lol. As an accelerationist he's my ideal candidate but I can understand if you're knee deep in jewish cum, it might be difficult for you accept someone like that.
Nobody. That's the point. If the Average rent today in NYC is $1,875, then after you give every renter a thousand dollars a month, it will become $2,875.
Because you know so well how power works enough to judge anything...... Your a joke user we both know it...
Value added corporate tax especially on the businesses that profit the most from automation, because it’s from tax and not printing new money it’d have the same effect as more people being active in the economy/ higher median income.
Also the main point is coming automation will get rid of all low skill jobs and increasingly middle skill. We are edging closer to a world where lots of people are unemployable
Why did we elect a Kenyan then?
Oh wait everyone we have an economic genuis on our hands here kek
Yang is literally Mark Zuckerberg. He is wearing a mask, and if you can't see that you are literally brain dead. Even has the same voice.
automation is coming whether we like it or not
I'd rather have a forward thinking President that is going to address the problem rather than put it in the back burner for the next faggot to deal with.
If you think that Yang's proposed campaign finance reform has a bat's chance in hell then you know less about how power works than you pretend I do.
So you're even worse than those drivers?
Why do you think he is married to an asain?
His "entrepreneur" ventures were and are complete bullshit just like his technocrat demagoguery. Morons.
can’t suck the zuck
If you tax a business, they pass the cost on to their customers, who then are incentivized to engage in less economic activity by the higher cost. Not more. Jesus it's like you never heard of the Laffer Curve.
When and if automation destroys certain job sectors, then people will have to adjust and find other things to employ them. As has happened literally every time in the past that automation destroyed jobs.
Kek user if you only knew how bad things really are......
Why don't you just talk about corporate tax? I thought that was what NYC people hated instead of rich people. Prove me wrong.
How naive lol
Can't wait for 2020, it's going to be so fucking entertaining.
Worse than what drivers?
Back when they drove Crown Vics, before the city gave it to Toyota shit cars.
Coddling people with ubi while making sure they have no children and having them all die off within a generation would be a lot easier than outright killing people
How would UBI stop runaway inflation? Everyone would suddenly have $4000 more a month.
I'll bet you a month of my paycheck against a month of yours that Yang's proposal is not passed in ten years.
The next 100 years we will develop as if it were 100,000 years. A change is coming.
create solution based on narrative of supposed issue
appeal to emotion and pop culture
Only brainlets fall for this shit. Where were the 11.5 million domestic tech jobs 20 years ago? Oh, right, the market expanded into something else new. You want change? Find a candidate with the only actual solution - full scale next gen nuclear power and a push to post-scarcity, type one civilization. Everything is is bullshit Band-Aids to appeal to absolute morons.
But we’ve never had autonomous AI. In the past whenever we’ve automated we’ve needed a human guiding and fixing the robots. Now that won’t be necessary, and they’ll take all low skill, entry level type jobs. This greatly reduces job mobility and increases intelligence and aptitude required. Most people are morons if you haven’t noticed. We will have more and more people that will be as employable as a retard
Nobody cares, you lunatic. Somebody should put you into an old people home.
He doesn't understand anything. He is a 115 IQ midwit technocrat that circle jerks ideas back and forth with other DC and silicon valley midwits
you sound like a soon-to-be replaced truck driver
For me, my vote in 2020 goes to the candidate that most supports people with disorders of sexual development. If you’re not taking about DOSD rights and advocacy, you’re basically not taking about anything.
Easy to bet when your paycheck is zero because UBI hasn’t been passed yet
that won't be necessary
You probably think you just press go on a CNC 5 axis and it poops out perfect, advanced parts.
I could understand the inflation argument if we were printing money to give away but the fact is if UBI were implemented in this country CORRECTLY we would use existing money to circulate through our economic system. You also have to ask yourself what gives the dollar value? Anyways I'm probably wasting my breath on you. You're probably some low IQ mud.
People will figure something out. It has happened every other time, it will happen this time. That's sort of the beauty of the market. As one opportunity is shut out, new niches will develop, and then the market will adjust to fill those niches.
I think probably a lot of those low skill/intelligence workers will wind up in elderly care.
If you win, in ten years my paycheck will be at least $1000.
can't wang the yang
What do you think gives the dollar value?
Our money has value because we say it does.....problem?
That's sad. My paycheck has been over $5000 and everybody asked me why I settled for that.
We should try just but make sure it's done correctly
Like Communism? Kek
"I have no point so I'll just insult instead"
American calling anyone else a mud
So no response then?
Ubi is an excuse for employers to pay less and for landlords to increase rents. It's a trap, you should be able to see this clear as day. Also are you willing to pay more tax to pay the ubi for all the "new Americans" who will be drawn in like iron filings to a magnet? Ubi will only help make the US non white faster
Depends who "we" are.
I support the deportation of illegals
Leftist logic everyone.
We won't print the money, it'll be "through the economy" aka taxed to death.
Somehow magically each 330 million Americans will get UBI a month and it not inflate prices
Filling people with purposelessness until they masturbate to death or overdose is barely a step above outright murdering them. In fact, it offers significantly less dignity than just a bullet in the head.
Ok my turkish friend you win the argument
pat yourself on the back Murat
The non white legal ones are currently also a drain on US social systems.
Your ID literally has MUD in it. Kek.
I pity the man that’s only meaning in life is to slave away for his master. A true cuck
The idea is that basic income practically pays for itself when you dismantle all aspects of the welfare state and fire all government employees associated with deciding who gets welfare and providing it.
Along with that with so much infrastructure privatised it's supposed to provide a large boost to the economy.
Where I know it falls down is that there will be hyper inflation and people who dont want to live in ghettos might find themselves having to spend all their UBI just to escape violence and they will be worse off under that system. I could also imagine it drastically worsening drug problems.
He seems like a good candidate, he's trying to run the entire country like a tech company. I think he'd do good as a president but he has a better chance at winning running as a 3rd party than a democrat. The left only wants to establish a matriarchy.
Are Americans aware that most people in Europe dont consider your Democrats to be left wing?
You missed the point.
Right. It also has sort of the same problem as increasing the minimum wage. If you go from, say, $9/hour to $15/hour minimum wage, all the workers who right now make $15/hour are reduced to minimum wage. Their wealth and purchasing power evaporates. and when you're talking about three hundred million people times a thousand dollars per month times twelve months, prices at the low end of the economy skyrocket.
He's also not saying how the government would pay for his plan
I believe he has addressed this, actually. Something to do with what the welfare system already pumps out + cutting bloat.
Their purchasing power doesn't evaporate. Changing the minimum wage shouldn't change the price of say an iPhone. It would likely lead to higher rents and food prices though.
Wouldn’t the market solve this by more people moving to the countryside?
Will they be able to afford one off housing in the countryside or will high rise just be built in the middle of nowhere with few facilities for the poors?
They could always live in a trailer and move it around.
only sane candidate so he's going to be shutdown and silenced
High rises would be uneconomical, I’d envision small cottage houses
What's you paycheck?
The more inland you go the cheaper the housing for the most part, so this might push a mass migration from the coastlines
But it does, since the money supply increases and therefore the dollar loses value.
I'm in the gig economy, but generally it's roughly what you claim yours is.
Those are existing houses that are very cheap due to land value. If there was an exodus from the cities those existing houses would soon be gone.
Would people on UBI be able to pay for new houses to be built even on the cheapest land? What if they couldn't and countryside high rise had to be built for them to reduce the costs of plumbing and power etc.
Well they claim the dollar supply doesn't increase but I very much doubt UBI could realistically be supplied just by firing some government employees.
I would rather take AOCs Green New Deal over Yang's UBI sales pitch.
That just means new cities which they’d move out of for cheaper rent
More land horizontally is far cheaper than building up verticaly
What do you think the gig economy is?
I'd say it would be in a form more similar to retirement communities. Very small units built in a estate on cheap land outside the city. Problem is if your UBI neighbors are scum where do you go?
Why don't you just ask you family and neighbors?
What you are unable to grasp is that this time the automation is accompanied by automation. Meaning the shit will be nearly autonomous, thus will not need humans.
find other things to employ them
Again when a vast portion of the population has no money to spend, so a lot of small businesses will shut down because there is no money being circulated.
full scale next gen nuclear power and a push to post-scarcity, type one civilization
Only brainlets fall for this shit
The irony. Read what i mentioned above. I do not think you understand the scope of the problem. You think that the new technology will need a human to function. Why would you need a human if a robot can repair, code, develop, maintain, and build other robots. This is the problem we are trying to address.
Yes, we may be far off from this, but wouldnt it be better to have infrastructure for this built now instead of right when we need it.
Right now the holy grail in AI research is creating a method to give a computer general intelligence. Right now they can make a computer do one task well, but it cannot apply skills learned from one task to another. Once we figure out how to make an AI with transferable skills it will have a crazy ripple effect that will change civilization.
AI is garbage. It's all pajeets and chinks and the Jew who thought it up are moving into different places where they can get more shekels.
You can build a tiny home for about 10k which leaves 2k for land payments, tiny homes aren't meant for families though and aren't permitted in every state. Realistically I doubt many people would opt for that but some would.
My sister said New Yorkers are "short and brown".
My friend said Miami is dangerous.
My girlfriends brother drove across the US. Nigger infested dangerous shithole. He liked San fran.
A work colleague left the US because he couldn't get a job in firefighting due to affirmative action. Now he is in finance here.
I'm seeing the beginnings of white flight.
My sister said New Yorkers are "short and brown".
That hurts, but she is correct. The last time I was there reminded me of visiting south east asia where I could see head and above everybody up and down the street.
It's not the city I once knew.
Yang is actually paying for pol shills
She liked the city itself but she is a bit of a cunt. Has no problem being racist in public. Lmao.
he's trying to run the entire country like a tech company
Which type of tech company? The ones that sleep in moving trucks in the parking lot since they aren't paid enough or the ones that work 20 hour days?
Why are the Irish so retardedly left?
There's a lot to like about the city. It was part of my childhood. But I don't doubt that people are starting to be racist in public.
Is it racist yet?
UBI is supposed to remove all other forms of welfare when it's done.
no he's a fucking chink
Cause we wanted to tell everyone how not racist we were and how we had progressed.
One of the main experiences if NYC is to have a legless nigger come through the subway car and ask for change so he can use the bus. It puts the rest of us off our game, but that's what's normal day in and day out.
It's a very learnable place.
Isn't this the Chink asshole that wants to bring China's social credit dystopia to the US?
Fuck this guy.
Oh good. A commie. They're so rare these days.
mandatory civil service
Holy shit good point. They always kvetching for a fair share
If there was an exodus from the cities those existing houses would soon be gone.
The United States is unbelievably big. We're not going to run out of interior land.
It means rather than having a stable career working for a single company, I have to work gig to gig.
shit will be nearly autonomous
It will not. We do not have machines building and maintaining other machines.
when it's done.
Never going to happen. Democrats are not going to repeal existing entitlements.
Yang is fucking retarded, much like UBI.
Having said that, after seeing Trump give $38 billion to Israel and ban boycotts of Israel, I'm ready to burn this bitch to the ground.
YANG GANG 2020!
He's the man
He's gonna pay for my hobbies
Yang will win the presidency, I'm 100% sure
People on here keep ignoring these, or think Trump is playing 4D chess when he's playing Dreidel.
His gun control views are wack.
Into the trash this fag goes.
The best policies but he’s short on charisma and America likes a salesman. He should have worked with a b list celeb or something
Fuck off ancap kike
Pro UBI candidate
Aww it's retarded. How about no you cock guzzling nigger faggot?
muh automation is going to kill jobs every single blue collar job
Our system is based on productivity, usually the people who make this argument are all on the tech bubbles cock but really know nothing about any other industry. Their judgement is way off.
Reminder anyone who touts the 2A and still tolerates the current regime is a KEK
yang will most definitely be funded by the ccp.
he will be a puppet of the chinks.
people will just figure stuff out
sure sorted out the automation problem pal
You ever been to a store with self checkout? Yeah, they're here.
Just like trump is a puppet of the clan?
Robots don't pay taxes. Corporations and business don't pay taxes. A corporation is just a piece of paper in a filing cabinet.
People pay taxes. Prices will go up, UBI won't be able to cover it, nobody can pay for the products, so the quality gets worse and the price decreases, which means less tax revenue, which means less UBI, and it spirals out of control until we're all starving in the streets and shot to death
As time proceeds, automation is inevitable. However, history has shown that with each advance in automation, people develop new economic niches. Automation is a problem, but it is also an opportunity. Given enough time, people will adjust.
Or do you suppose we should all just sew our own clothes in our cottages rather than allow them to be built in factories?
Just meme it
not voting for yang to accelerate the collapse
cringe and bluepilled
eat a dick
UBI is based.
4th industrial revolution
I have a lifeboat, do you?
WHAT FAVORITES? Who the fuck are they gonna run?
Booker rapes dudes
Kamala fucked everyone important in San Fransisco (allegedly there are pics she doesn't know about too)
Tulsi got David Duke'd already
Warren is fucked for being trans-ethnic
And Trump is polling at 52%, and that fuck still has two more years to legalize pot and get a fucking 89% approval.
The Dems should just tap out this year
Have time to gather around the burning robots and plan to storm DC and silicon valley
inb4 pedo pictures
It didn't matter in 2016 and it won't matter this time.
You might even see a wild card favorite like Tom Hanks.
AI, machine learning, and smartcontracts friend. The basic stuff can be automated by Chainlink and Everything and some clever Dapps. You'll still need lawyers for criminal stuff, and dispute resolution. But contract stuff, will probably catch a 80% force reduction or some shit.
Accountants are also fucked. Paralegals are dead. Allot of bankers too
The big irony is the truck drivers and manufacturing workers are gonna catch it last, and society and government may even opt to keep them around longer after we see the fallout from the white collar decimation
"We gotta have a strong border."
3 minutes earlier
"I'm pro immigration."
Nah fuck this chink.
*Chainlink and Ethereum
I got autocorrected for phonefagging