Is it a bad idea to get a bachelors in psychology?

Is it a bad idea to get a bachelors in psychology?
people are pretty interesting desu and psych careers sound nice

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It's a total meme degree, enjoy getting 40k in debt to become an admin assistant in an office making 13/hr and never utilize what you learned once.

You have the thought process of basically every 20 year old girl in yoga pants.

Try to find something that is needed in society. It's already hard enough to find a job when you have valuable skills. Don't play yourself by entering the market with nothing but soft skills in a field where you're competing with lots of other eeucatwd but unemployed folks.

Is there a up to date ranking of degree's
Because I was also thinking about law, but idk if it would be viable, or just a gamble

Yo OP. My gf is super education degree master of the universe in psychology. Over the years it has caused no end of 'debate' over the practicality of continuing to throw money at what I've viewed as a vanity degree.

From my perspective, educational institutions offer terrible value for money in a modern information age. They charge high prices in order to maintain value in their institutions and because they can, the system is backed up by employers who recognise the qualifications.

The smart thing to do is work out what you want to do. Work out what qualifications you need. Work out the cheapest and fastest way to satisfy those and then get on with it so you can start doing what you want to do and earning money.

My gf is like ... oh these hallowed halls of knowledge have seen fine minds throughout the centuries. My piece of paper is flavoured with history and the high price paid means it is objectively better and ears will prick when I enter the room. Life is a learning process and we never stop learning and respect for learning is what makes a true renaissance man and thus the more I spend and give at the alter of higher education the greater my brain becomes.

I'm all. Bitch be real. Stop swallowing their shit hook line and sinker. You've only been able to afford to do this shit because you come from a rich family, you've been given money (and have relatively little to show for it) and I support you pretty much 80%.

All the ability and knowledge in the world is worthless to anybody outside of your head if you cannot find a way to monetise it so it can sustain you and make it work for you and others. That is the key aspect that many academically minded people lack. Brain power (the ability to meet assessment criteria and pay tuition mainly) is not as valuable in the absence of business acumen.

She has become a little wiser over the years and now is finally finishing qualifications she needs to actually do what she wants to do and now she has serious doubts.

So anyway, I can't really get the words out within the word count. My point is look at employment pathways for psychology. Her goals have taken almost 10 years and cumulate in having her own independent therapy practice. In effect she has to have her own business. Nobody is going to look at her CV and say "gee, here is a fat paycheck, we really could use a master of philosophy with an undergraduate degree in psychology and multiple qualifications in integrative counselling and therapy involving multiple modalities". This is the part that terrifies her, the skills involved in operating a business are not her forte.

Here at least government funding for such services have been in terminal decline. Educational involvement in that level has been in terminal decline. The government support and encourage private enterprise to step up and shoulder the burden because they don't have to fund the infrastructure which means the market is there to tender for services in your locality.

This requires a decent involvement and networking within local politics and heath, education and government. You've got to be cashed up to take advantage of it.

But like ... if your goal is to work with kids, then do a more vocational degree in something like child development. If you want to counsel and get a job at a university or employer with HR or maybe local schools or similar then do a vocational degree in counselling and psychotherapy. Want to be independent? Do whatever you need to get your accreditation and pay for insurance and start practising, you'll be self employed though.

Studying without purpose or understanding of how it leads to an outcome is what makes many degrees meme.

>Studying without purpose or understanding of how it leads to an outcome is what makes many degrees meme.
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Psychology has a place in the modern world. Just look at great intellectuals like Jordan B Peterson who is a clinical psychologist. Beyond that, there are many companies that offer psychological tests (like the MBTI) to big corporations and while to us these personality tests are memes, somehow these companies are able to secure huge contracts because companies now want to data mine and categorize their employees.

In other words, there is a market for psychology in the modern world. The problem is that modern universities do not teach you to tackle this market unless you go get a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology. This is why you should ask yourself if you want (and can) go up to a Ph.D.? If not then this is my suggestion:

Psychology is not an actual science. Psychologists have never actually invented anything of value for the scientific community. Psychologists instead just borrow the methods from elementary statistics and use them to 'prove' statements about humans, usually with very little care (which is why most psychology papers cannot be reproduced and are most likely lies). This is why you'd be better off going for statistics. If you later want to end up doing something related to psychology, now you know more than the psychologists themselves. And if not, you have the added bonus of having a technical degree. Of course, statistics are not really anything rigorous but at least you learn useful things.

While there is a place for it in my opinion there is a decreasing market for psychology in the modern world. Increasingly here institutions are funding only the most basic methods with the most evidenced cost benefit. This is invariably some form of CBT, a therapeutic process which can be taught in a few days. When funds are tight and public demand is for economy why offer anything else? The value to the practitioner is in leveraging the implied importance of what sound like grand qualifications to find a way to monetise their abilities. It is like being a grand master in some esoteric form of medieval opera, good for you and yes, you should charge a lot of money to tutor others in your highly developed skill, but there is never going to be the same demand as say ... introduction to bass guitar lessons and no employer is going to be interested unless you combine that with relevant and desirable skill and experience, like being able to lecture, being able to curate and put on a profitable performance, being able to offer occupational therapy in a clinical environment, being able to conduct meaningful research and so on. Sometimes a bit of all of them.

>While there is a place for it in my opinion there is a decreasing market for psychology in the modern world
That's not true, look at how disfunctional and abnormal humanity has become just because of how we developed our societies. Half of an entire generation is to scared to engage with the opposite sex because they are torn apart by complexes and anxiety, the zoomers are currently influenced by the media hype of genderfaggotry and every other insane person has a platform to propose their nonsense, we need a lot more mental health specialists.

>This is invariably some form of CBT, a therapeutic process which can be taught in a few days.
CBT is not the only therapy and has shown to be working with measurable effects by under specific conditions that the patient shows. Besides, just because you learn a mechanic in a short period doesn't mean you master it, or understand how reflect on it.

> The value to the practitioner is in leveraging the implied importance of what sound like grand qualifications to find a way to monetise their abilities
You can apply that statement to every type of work, from a simple shoemaker to a CEO of a huge tech corp.

Your statements makes the impression that you are very uninformed in regards to what psychology actually is and how it can and is applied to real world scenarios

>Psychology is not an actual science. Psychologists have never actually invented anything of value for the scientific community
This is only partially true. Neuropsychology isn't that new, with which you can observe, measure and reproduce neuronal functions with biological and chemical adjustments through psychological therapy and medication. Then there's also social psychology, cognitive psychology, clinical, etc.