I have a hard question for all national socialists on Jow Forums
If you one day found out that the Holocaust, the planned killing of millions of Jews and Slavs including women and children actually happened.
Would you then still be a national socialist?
I'm not claiming that it happened. I'm saying IF it happened and if you knew without a doubt that it did.
This is a serious question and I would like it if I got at least some serious responses.
yes. the holocaust, whilst unfortunate and in my opinion excessive does not affect the credibility of the national socialist position, and does nothing to prove that it is not the way forward for my people.
For the users here the Holocaust was a feature, not a bug.
They just deny for epic trolling.
yes, i still don't know if it happened or not but i wouldn't blame hitler for killing poles and jews
So you're a national socialist that does not deny the holocaust?
For the reasons Hitler would have wanted the Holocaust to happen the way it's described now, it wouldn't be that off base. So I don't think it would bother me that much, considering how much they were in control of the press and banks at the time.
I personally would have preferred if they were all just exiled en masse instead of wasting millions of dollars to build camps just to kill them, however.
>I personally would have preferred if they were all just exiled en masse
Giving millions of men that hates you to hostile countries isn't really that smart right?
I was thinking stick to one of the original ideas i.e. sending them all to Madagascar.
I don't mind slavs, but the Jews have to go.
Considering everything I now know about the destruction of civilization caused by Jews, yes, of course I would.
Oh well, then I understand. That never became a possible option because of how the war turned out tho.
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DAMN SON MY THREAD IS BLESSED!
Of course. A planet without Jews is a healthier planet for all mankind.
>DAMN SON MY THREAD IS BLESSED!
If that isn't a sign I did good converting to NatSoc, I don't think anything else could be.
>Would you then still be a national socialist?
Yes. Because the ideology and the holyhoax are two different things.
It's like asking "If this one Christian killed a million people, would you still be a Christian?"
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Yes. He should have finished the job.
It wasn't "excessive" enough. He should have cleansed the white lands
But the national socialist belief is partly about how the Germanic or "Aryan" people is the herrenvolk in a fight against Jewry.
The removal (not necessarily killing) of Jews is a central theme. This is what Hitler himself wrote and said.
It's not at all like your comparison.
I also believe that is something all modern national socialists forget.
Hitler said that national socialism is for the German folk and the German folk only. Which modern national socialists completely ignore.
I believe the Holocaust happened. I dispute the numbers and the methods of exicution. However I still support the National socialist model. If the numbers were greater then 6 million and all of them were gassed it would still be irrelevant of my opinions on national socialism.
National socialism was an ideology coined by the nazis. But the Holocaust was not a critical aspect of national socialism at all. It is independent of national socialism.
Sparta was quite a national socialist state If you look at how people lived and the social structure. Of course it wasn't exactly, the government was not national socialist. It was a constitutional monarchy with a democracy that was literally decided by which side cheered the loudest. But then again national socialism is not about a system of government. Either.
Pic related is National socialist ideal. It might look libriterian but the people are all working in the same field for the same ideal of the nation. And they are led by their national unity. They care for one another as members of the nation and will do whatever is necessary to ensure its safety and strength.
Ironically the most national socialist nation today is ISRAEL. And they even follow the ethnic definition of a national are ethically clensing the palistinians like the nazis ethically cleaned the Jews. However ethnonational socialism is not the only kind of national socialism. You can have national socialism in an ethnostate, or in a multicultural state.
Yes I ignore it. I do not think Hitler was a founder of national socialism. I think the Spartans were as I said in my above post. The national socialist state is however concerned with the genetic health of its citizens and contributes to it through eugenics, so an ultimate national socialist state would breed more and more Aryan population as they are naturally superior.
>However ethnonational socialism is not the only kind of national socialism
I think you're wrong in saying that. Ethnonationalism is not a form of national socialism. It's the other way around. National socialism is a form of ethnonationalism.
I would kill "insert any amount" of people, especially from enemy tribes, to protect my people.
So i wouldent care.
>Spartans created national socialism
Stop
Pic related national socialist lifestyle vs capitalist.
In national socialism health is wealth. Psychologically and physiologically healthy volk are imperative to the sucess of the nation. Capitalism is just about exploiting other people and selling them degenerate and vice for your own personal gain. Capitalism destroyes the nation.
No. I've researched spartan society in depth. They embodied national socialist ideal far better then nazi Germany. They were much less degenerate. The only flaws were the fact that woman were equal to men and citizens were allowed to sell their land. In the end the land and Enterprises of Sparta was owned by woman and foreigners. Not the volk.
Also the path to citizenship was hereditary and not totally meritocracy. A national socialist society is not hereditary. The people with power are those strong enough to wield it. Not those to whomever it was handed on a silver platter
No. National socialism is literally in the name... it's not that hard.
>national < >socialism<
For the social welfare of the nation. It is opposed to global socialism, and it is opposed to national capitalism. The nation looks after its own and puts the Nation and it's people first. It doesn't let the people starve in the streets, it doesn't let the people do drugs that will weaken the nation.
Also without niggers, chinks and poles.