Are we sure ancient battles really happened? There are no in depth historical accounts of what they were like

Australian Phalanx stabbed their spears into the earth so they wouldn't fall off

its to protect against jews

Protection from the dangerous aerial jew

It's for the stunt chariots launching overhead.

kek
FPBP
finland is so mean

>At around 6:00 pm the Polish king ordered the cavalry attack in four groups, three Polish and one from the Holy Roman Empire—18,000 horsemen charged down the hills, the largest cavalry charge in history.
It is basically what have you seen in LotR

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LOTR and your picture are fictional. That's like posting footage from an action movie and claiming that's what war is like in 2019. We have no idea what these cavalry charges actually looked like. See all that shit on the ground in that picture and how close everyone is together? How is that even possible without the horses tripping over bodies, swords, horse bodies, canons, etc?

Of course they did.

>cavalry charges
we had them in ww1, your burger is showing

Immigrant

>>the phlanax was developed in Greece/Macedonia
>>a country with very rocky terrain
>>mountious in many places
>>many natural choke points
>>but why didn't people just flank them lol

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THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED

COMING DOWN THE MOUNTAINSIDE

SARACEN ARE YOU READY TO DIE

Yeah they used dinossaurs and guns 5k years ago

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Look up The Charge of The Light Brigade, m8. And that particular picture depicts the Winged Hussars breaking a supposedly No Win seige. If you want an easy case study on superior tactics and training, look up Rouke's Drift: 100 or so redcoats in a valley defending against an estimated 8000 zulu warriors. In the end they lured them into a three line killzone and shot at 6 bullets a minute each in volley ranks, that's a reload time of 10s.

Or if you're into earlier history, check out Agincourt and see how insanely lucky the Brits were. The wind won us that famous victory, that and the impatience of the French heavy cavalry snarling up their own lines.

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they blocked incoming arrows

Clearly those dirty Persians couldn't figure that out. They let the bastards march all the way to India that way.

Yes there are. There are plenty. How do you think we know about half of them? Some are basically conjecture from second and third-hand accounts combined with archaeological evidence, but some were documented quite well.

Must have been insanely stressful, imagine someone coming at you with a knife, that alone is enough to scare the shit out of a normal person. Now imagine a line of 200 men, 20 men deep coming at you.

It's hard to imagine that the lines held for very long at all before men panicked and attempted to flee.

Hand to hand combat is fucking intense, the men around you getting stabbed and hacked to death and blood and gore and screaming. Fuck that shit.

How in the hell did they hoist those giant ass poles at an angle with only one hand while marching forward anyways? I feel like that's a great way to break your wrists.

> How is that even possible without the horses tripping over bodies, swords, horse bodies, canons, etc?
American education.

Why are you so mean, Finbro?

they were not chairsitting pussies

Underrated

If you knew you'd say how.

nice cope retard

They used 2 hands with the shield strapped to their arm

There's paintings n shieeet

In normal hand to hand warfare the losing party actually retreated after only losing a few percent of men. By that point it was already clear who would win and also as you wrote the moral of the men would be down, seeing their brothers and comrades slaughtered. So yeah, they were like "fuck that shit" (and more people actually were killed while fleeing that in battle).
The battles were the losing army was annihilated were rare and are often still famous, for this reason.

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youtu.be/wVGeKS7acYs (fun version)

youtu.be/75zmIj_4LFQ (real version)

Between that or trench warfare we are very lucky to be alive today and not be forced into that

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THis. There’s little to gain in staying in a fight that you’re losing. The only exception is a siege or defense against.

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Trench warfare is still useful

thankfully trench warfare last relatively shortly. the shellshock alone is brutal, nevermind the numerous infections.

To block cavalry charges.

actually the first military engagement of the second world war was a cavalry charge...

>We have no idea what these cavalry charges actually looked like
Actually we do because horses act the same today as they did then. These horses were trained from a very young age to be weapons of war. They would be trained to trample and kick enemies on the ground. What modern people don't realize, that in the age before a million distractions, people got REALLY good at fighting, because there wasn't much else to do other than live.

With a few exceptions, this is true. It depended on the reason for the battle, if the result of the battle was that you and your family were going to be enslaved or killed. Then the fighting got a bit more brutal. But many of the battles, especially in the middle ages, were so that some lord or king could take over some other lord or kings land, for the common man it was "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"

Makes sense.
This was before Isaac Newton invented gravity so they could come from any direction.

DELET THIS RIGH NAO, U WANT BURGERS TO KNOW ABOUT OUR SPIDERS ?!?!?

>this brainlet has never heard of airborne cavelry

this is fucking nightmare inducing

There were no wars or battles before World War One. It's all propaganda and disinfo psyop.

The crimean war photos are fishy at least.
Look up Roger Fenton, he was a fraud.

breaking news: CNN was not at the battle of sardis therefore it didnt happen

>Must have been insanely stressful, imagine someone coming at you with a knife, that alone is enough to scare the shit out of a normal person. Now imagine a line of 200 men, 20 men deep coming at you.
>It's hard to imagine that the lines held for very long at all before men panicked and attempted to flee.
>Hand to hand combat is fucking intense, the men around you getting stabbed and hacked to death and blood and gore and screaming. Fuck that shit
This is why they put the soldiers in formations that are several rows deep. Because then the backlines are not in any danger, so the soldiers at the back have no reason to rout. Meanwhile the soldiers in the front can't go anywhere because they're sandwiched between the backline and the enemy

>no in depth historical accounts
>he hasn't read Peloponnesian Wars

kek, fug me

Are you kidding me? The ones on the front lines of ancient battles were the equivalent of modern day npcs doing what god and the king told them because hey that’s what everyone else is doing. I’d be chillin back in the villages they left behind helping myself to their wives and farms. Imagine how easy it used to be to get away with shit like that

When the Macadamians invaded Austria, they had to defend against drop bears.

I wish more people would try to fight with real medieval armor and weapons. It is a joke. Even modern recreations use modern materials and FAR less complete coverage, and it is exhausting to do anything. Why don't we find literal tons of this armor on battlefields all over Europe? The truth is that it is entirely impractical and unlikely to have been as prevalent as movies/TV make us think.

So they don't accidentally stab one of their own, varg.

You idiot. Most armor was very basic because making suits of armor was expensive as fuck and only the rich could afford it.

Same as swords.

That’s why most armies used spears and leather armor with the occasional chain mail or helmet.

Guys fighting with complete suits of armor was rare.

Akshually the Macedonians (not modern monkeydonians or shitskin Greeks) were plains people. The last of Macedonia they lived in was extremely flat which was the reason they had the best cavalry in the world at the time besides their pikemen.

Oh wow, it's like extremely expensive and hard to make items were abundant and only the rich could afford them.

And what you mean by real medieval armor?
11:th century, late 15:th century or something in between?

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the row at the back used to pole vault to the front to surprise the enemy

>horses tripping
Some even died, user.

> tfw you're a cavalryman in the mountains

You're right.
I don't believe anything happens that isn't posted online.
Preferably on "Whorl-stah".

how bad are we at fighting now? I reckon absolutely useless

So you're telling me that soldiers did not wear perfect cookie-cutter uniforms, and didn't all have factory-made scale armor over chainmail? Where the fuck do you even...

>There are no in depth historical accounts of what they were like.

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-Cav and skirmishers on the wings protecting the flanks
-if you're fighting a phalanx, it's so dominant head on that you're probably going to want to bring your own phalanx, which limits the size of any theoretical infantry flanking force
-it takes time to orderly move a block of flanking infantry into position, giving the phalanx time to reposition
-the battlefield would be chosen to minimize risks to the flanks, if possible

More like
>tfw you're a cavalry horse in the mountains

Duh, they had pegasi flying cavalry in ancient times

Hell yeah they were after that gold niGGA

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> Why good war horse was worth several villages

there were weights at the non-business end of the weapon to help balance it

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You don't find weapons and armor on battlefields because they get looted. Anything the winning side couldn't use was often sold for a profit.

Stop your making our eduction systiem look bad

History is fake.

We’ve actually been living in suburbs for the past 10 million years.

Yeah, and guess what?
The late plate armor?
IT WAS CUSTOM MADE!
Like whoah, they actually had to make it to fit, it's like stiff sheet metal shirt can't be just put on and stretched to fit!

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It's like that artist couldn't draw anything but smiles when it came to mouths.

based

To fight off Jew magic.

You're blowing my mind brother. I bet next you're going to tell me that plate mail was largely ceremonial, and too heavy and unwieldy to really wear into battle.

Wait till you realize the middle ages are at least 50% fictional

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_time_hypothesis

This but extend it to literally the majority of history were taught

wow it's like in witcher game11!! kek

No, it was actually reasonably weighted and carefully distributed over the body.
It was hard to breathe though, because of helmet and cuirass.
Full chain suit might have weighted more and its weight was definitely less evenly distributed.

Jousting armor, now that was heavy, because nobles kinda disliked dying in their freetime for fun.

They didn’t live in mountains.

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When you put it that way, Macedon looks like the clitoris to Greece's vulva.

A cuirass and some plates seem like they'd be pretty doable, but I can't imagine a full plate suit being preferred for charging into melee. More like captains and leaders, people who should rarely be in the actual fighting, wear it to designate their status.

Macedon and Thessaly had the best cavalary in Europe in the BC besides the scythians. And it’s all because of geography.

LOL

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