Why are more men beginning to think this way?

Funny, I’m noticing my friends saying this also. It’s a bit disturbing. There seems to be an anti-monogamy push happening.

t. unaware his girlfriend fucks niggers behind his back

This.

You have been cheated on. You just didn't know it

>they degen?
Yes

>I-I don't care. I-It's n-natural anyway

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the parting of the hymen is the 'blood sacrifice' where the animal is split in two, signifying that the contract is binding
and God created hymens

Teaching lies to children is a pretty serious error, how do you think God feels about what you're saying? Do you think he will approve of your decision?

Yeah, but Christianity is the faith that actually matters. The rest are all "literally who" tier.

>literal fucking cuck
lmao, the instant a woman raises red flags, you drop her like you stole her, not indulge and reward their misbehaviour.
No wonder he got cheated by every woman he was close with.

incorrect on both points
he is not "right," and it is also not the faith that matters
it is our Father himself, Jesus Christ, who matters

We’re also violent by nature but we repress that, or at least attempt to.

I've never heard anyone from any other religion claim this before

Oh you sad sorry faggots, projecting so hard

The purpose of civilization is not to abide to the humans demands, but to guide them to productivity

>Humans are naturally monogamous.
only for the first few years after a child is born. then humans naturally seek other partners to spread their genes even wider.

rape was normal and more of a biological phenomenon than a social one.
the whole point of civilization is to curb the uglier parts of our desperate existence as mammals.

>humans not being monogamous
it's true. if they were naturally monogamous, we wouldn't need an entire suite of institutions (church, state, culture) to enforce it

I haven't been struck down, so there's that.

Yeah so Humans are monogamous, I think some birds are monogamous too

I would argue that natural monogamy doesn't end until your child is old enough to fend for themselves. The mother and father both have to contribute to teaching the child how to survive and live. Fathers teaching sons how to hunt, mothers teaching daughters how to forage & cook, etc. And even at that, many couples would just keep having children until they were too old to continue doing so - and by that point you're too old to even care about being polygamous.

>Humans aren't meant to be monogamous
Ah, the classic cuckold cope of low quality males. Good thing most of that genetic waste won't reproduce.

A man who is not monogamous will be more successful in passing down his genes than a man who is.

The overwhelming majority of men are extremely mediocre, and therefore actually benefit from monogamy because otherwise they wouldn't be passing on their genes at all.

The problem is that, while monogomous dating systems usually succeed in supressing that 5~10% of men who would benefit from non-monogamy, there is always a tiny minority of men (1~5%) who get away with sleeping around. In our society, this can happen for a number of reasons

>in extremely low-status groups like inner city ghetto communities, social pressure to be monogamous is extremely weak due to a culture of dependence on government, and therefore there is little reason for aggressive and dominant males NOT to be non-monogamous
>there are also foreign communities Muslims being the most obvious who are resistant to mainstream social pressure and can therefore practice a different marriage and mating culture
>a minority of exceptionally attractive males in mainstream society with cuckold other men and get away with it, because society and especially women will cover for them
>an even smaller minority of extremely powerful men have the resources to support several women AND their children, are immune to social pressure, and can therefore be polygamous with impunity

>when you can't control a woman because you're inherently weak so you assume every male is as short/fat/pathetic as you
oh sweetie...

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>The mother and father both have to contribute to teaching the child how to survive and live.
sure but seeking out other partners doesn't prevent parents from teaching their child. virtually all couples lose sexual interest in one another after a few years, or even less. we naturally desire sex with multiple partners, which means humans are not necessarily monogamous. we are to some degree, but not fully and only for a short time.

I just watched the Louis Theroux documentary about polyamory and it was one of the most uncomfortable things I've ever seen. These people like to pretend they're happy sharing their partners, but it's obvious some of them are getting more out of the relationship than others. It's also obvious that some of them are unhappy but are too low self esteem to break up.

>Chad
Op those dude are cucks and that's all there is to them. I do agree however that given the choice people are not meant to be together and that monogamy was a product of necessity and is a product of propaganda

What does the creation of better offspring have anything to do with humans being monogamous or not. Your entire biological purpose in life is to successfully spread your genes, not to spread successful genes, you're also basing that on the two to three thousand years of history, humans have been around for much longer than that.

>Why are more X beginning to Y?

>humans arent meant to be monogamous
>but if I see it or know its happening I experience a biologically engineered emotional reaction to it.
The absolute mental state of cucks

Not really because they are leaving them with a single female. How many of those children will be biologically successful?
Polygamy is a serious unsustainable strategy in an environment where people are following sustainable strategies.

In other words polygamists literally cannot compete

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>What does the creation of better offspring have anything to do with humans being monogamous or not.

What do you mean? If you want to spread your genes, it's in the best interest of both parents to stay as a monogamous couple to give their children the best fighting chance, so that their genes may be carried forward. If their mother or father is off fucking someone else, they're not paying as much attention to the children (you can see this in modern society where rampant degeneracy and cheating is encouraged).

>How many of those children will be biologically successful?

The children of polygamous men are most likely to be successful in a sort of harem system where several women live in the man's household (because then paternity is more likely to be assured).

Not coincidentally, in societies with a long history of polygamy such as the Middle East and China, this is exactly what successful men do.

"as long as i don't see it"
imagine being this level of beta...

>masturbation addicts rationalise their cuck fetish

Civilization only exists because of monogamy and marriage.

you're conflating "biologically" and "socially" successful

bio success = not being deformed, fat, stupid, or impotent

soc success = getting a job, wife, kids, spend 1/3 of all time making someone else rich, don't break the law, pay taxes, live in a state of ill defined fear in an artificially constructed area

There are many articles like this to make women feel better about their cheating.
"RESEARCHERS have claimed that women are programmed to cheat in relationships, and it's all down to their biology.

Scientists claim it's unnatural for humans to stick to one partner at a time, and believe that we have evolved to shop around for more suitable mates whilst in a relationship."
thesun.co.uk/living/1648603/women-are-programmed-to-have-affairs-as-a-natural-backup-plan-according-to-scientists/

This strategy of cheating is common in many organisms including fishes, so therefore humans who cheat are just following their natural instincts.

>Civilization only exists because of monogamy

What is the Muslim world and China, Alex?

Very few men have the luxury of somehow being biologically successful without socially successful, though. Society kinda deliberately designs things that way.

You are basing that on a modern frame work and even that is wrong since elites through out history have been polygamist.

>how do you think God feels about...
God is a fictional character, therefore doesn't "feel" anything.

Islam has been in a dark age for over 1000 years

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My wife knows that if I ever caught her sleeping with another man she would be honor killed immediately.

(((society))) can go fuck itself. it's just the means by which you can afford to work out and eat farm food.

it's not a goal in itself. that's why I think elon musk is such a cuck. he plays with silly toy rockets instead of taking a harem of pussy into the woods and enjoying hmself.

You're 100% right there except for your conclusions. After you've slept around with a considerable amount of women the facade of life everlasting together that has been shoved down our throats from the media and our circle of friends begins to unravel. And how would it not when I've met so many young girls that want to settle down and get serious and all of that nonsense but after they've sucked my dick first they will y'know. And how about all the women I've met that were cheating on their bfs, husbands or fiances, telling me how this was all for fun but they did assure me they "loved" the guy that was waiting for them at home.

They are all whores Colgate brah, biology dictates that to them and no amount of societal pressure or media propaganda is going to change that, maybe suppress it

How is it a modern framework? It was even more important back then that both parents were involved in children's upbringing when death was around nearly every corner. It matters less these days because of our bubble wrapped society - but if you weren't raised and taught the proper skill set in the times of our ancestors, you were fucked.

eh, what a shit. better to stay incel then.

>Not really because they are leaving them with a single female.

You didn't read carefully. Sure they are leaving them with a single female if she's a ghetto welfare queen or something, but there are other forms of polygamy (like marrying multiple women the way Muslims do), and some men who sire children by different women do so by cuckolding other men and impregnating their wives.

The concept of a "single female" doesn't exist in most societies anyway. A woman is either at her parent's house, or her husband's house.

Chinese traditional are strictly monogamous and partners stay together long term even if the husband cheats on the wife or abuses the wife. Wife still stays with him.

>i-don't care, im not jealous anyway, s-so im not a cuck!
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From a point of evolutionary psychology polygamy makes zero sense.
1) Your biological goal is to insure survival of your genes. If your female mate is a cum dumpster then chances of a child being not yours skyrocket. Therefore unfaithful female biologically equals to a worst possible mate = garbage human.
2) Evolutionary female is at her most vulnerable in her pregnancy and when the child is small. Her entire existence and existence of her child entirely depends on the fact that a male will take care of her. If the male doubts that the child is his - he will not take care of her and she will likely die. So reputation of faithful mate is literally the only thing that kept women alive for tens of thousands of years.

Unfaithful female is an abomination in the evolutionary and biological sense. You cucks can cope all you want, but you cant change nature to fit your pathetic perversion. Also
>A lot of guys I know (mostly gay or chads) will spew this about humans not being monogamous
Look up mouse utipia experiment. Current rise of degeneracy, fags, trannies, cuckolds and child murder(abortions or othewise) is entirely consistent with what happened there.

had a long term bf cheat on me. left him and gave up on finding someone faithful. been celibate now for 5 years. it gets easier as time goes by.

God it must be bliss to be so ignorant

It's possible that he actually finds his work more fulfilling than just working through his biological programming, though.

I mean that biology takes the China approach when it comes to spreading your genes. It doesn't care about the quality of the offspring you're producing, only the quantity and that's how it's been for hundreds of thousands of years.

>fucks guys on the side
>gets attached
>divorces and collects alimony/child support
Oops!

You're better off, the homosexual community is rife with AIDS.

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cuz he's conditioned that way

>Chinese traditional are strictly monogamous

Not exactly, Chinese monogamy was traditionally a one-way street. Men didn't have to be monogomous, and successful men weren't (and arguably aren't).

Most men were monogamous because they couldn't afford to support more than one wife.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_marriage#Monogamy

I'm guessing that would depend on the circumstances and "tribe" in question. If infant mortality rates were very high due to some kind of environmental or cultural circumstance, then quantity over quality would be preferred. But I don't know enough about tribal cultures all over the world to say whether or not this is the rule or the exception.

you think there are girls on the internet?

Explain evolution then

>soc success = getting a job, wife, kids, spend 1/3 of all time making someone else rich, don't break the law, pay taxes, live in a state of ill defined fear in an artificially constructed area
Wrong, if people were not productive in the tribe or small village back in the day, they woulda been kicked out to fend for themselves and most likely die.

Probably less involved in the relationship beyond sex. If the girl is just a hole to you, and you dont care about her beyond that, then maybe thats acceptable. For me, I have to be invested in someone's personality, and if shes cheating with someone else shes out of my life in a heartbeat.

>It's only cucking if you feel jealous about it
What the actual fuck, how delusional can you be

does it really even count as "cheating" with gays? maybe there's some emotion involved but there are significantly lower consequences

I lived a life of sin and sexual immorality. Came back to Christ. Its sinful to think, lust, spill your seed, or any form of sex, mental ot physical outside of marriage. With God's help I can overcome all. Prayer kills erection, no joke. You also have to avoid watching tv and movies or anything secular really. I only come back here to spread the gospel and motivate other men.

Commitments are hard. Maintaining civilization is hard. Easier to just follow your base instincts.

also yeah as much as it can make you feel shitty if your bitch fucked a guy who dresses better or sells drugs or whatever it's great when she has to admit "yeah your's is bigger"

Fair enough for that guy, he doesn't care about the girl he's fucking. Obviously the girl won't care either. No women sticks with a guy like that long, but that's ok to. She wouldn't want to start a family with him, he's not worth the effort. She's getting older so is he.

Yeah now you can just pay tithe until you die. Cheers.

I'm not really talking about tribes or anything like that, monogamy has been a very recent necessity due to the formation of society, biologically monogamy makes no sense.

Don't be a dummy Bruce, if for example you've got 20 children and out of those 20, 5 are successful and manage to spread their genes you get evolution. His argument was that monogamy is the natural order of things, mine was that monogamy is counterintuitive to nature but a necessity in society. Now that we've got birth control and women can marry the state, monogamy goes out the window

>humans not being monogamous.

Biggest fucking meme ever.
Every single great civilization was built around monogamy. The literal only exceptions to the rule were always the 0.00001% aka the monarchs.

>Prayer kills erection

Interesting way of promoting Christianity...

Did ask your prefered pronouns? Show bobs.

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Humans arent naturally monogamous but enforcing monogamy is what allowed us to build civilization.

When i pray to fight temptation of the flesh. Makes no fap easy

>I'm not really talking about tribes or anything like that
I think you will find it has an extremely large influence on the way we naturally live (outside of modern propaganda). It was the way we lived for tens of thousands of years - evolutionary traits that have arisen from tribalism are still in us, whether some of us like it or not.

because women are niggers. They want their gibs and that's it

You're conflicting society with the natural order of things. Monogamy was imposed on people by society precisely because it helps it grow, nature dictates otherwise however and your balls aren't big enough to go against nature. That's why people cheat, that's why we've got a 50% divorce rate in the west and the remaining 50 are miserable

>evolutionary traits that have arisen from tribalism are still in us, whether some of us like it or not.
That's the argument I'm trying to make too kek. Caveman was banging all the hoes and ditching them yo

Sleep with sluts, get cucked, what a faggot.

It's them literally coping with the fact that all women are whores and if they admit they don't want a whore that they're a cuck.
My buddies and I have been talking about this and the dating pool for the early 20s is really fucked. Even handsome/successful guys can't get a stable gf in the market without giving up almost all your dignity or going down 3-5 numbers on the scale. The idea of romance is completely dead and the most you can ask for is a business transaction where you wind up getting nothing.

This

>Caveman was banging all the hoes and ditching them yo
Like I said, I don't know enough about tribes world wide to say what was the general rule on this. I've heard conflicting evidence, some people say most tribes were monogamous, and others say they were polygamous.

It's a part of nature. There are monogamous animals. Monogamy is a totally natural biological configuration.
Humans are evolved to be monogamous. Polygamy is unsuccessful and unsustainable.

That line between a slut and a "decent" woman gets thinner and thinner every single year and you've got a very rude awakening coming for ya matey. How come women switched from being the loving wives of the 50's to the ragging whores of the 60's, odd isn't it?

For most of our evolution up until the agricultural revolution humans haven't been monogamous tho. I agree that after that point until the 60's monogamy made sense because it's a net benefit to society and even in the modern world it's beneficial. That being said, you can't be surprised by the fact that people aren't loyal to each other anymore, that pressure has been lifted ever since the pill and the government taking the role of the sugar daddy, naturally we'll fuck around

Nature is nature, we shouldn't fight it.

This is a nice way of saying that “poly” is a fancy term for living exactly like a nigger.

If you have no loyalty and honor, you are not actually white. You are just a see-through nigger that knows how to read. Disgusting.

The science isn't completely settled, but the best sources we have suggest:

>In nature, women will always vie for the strongest / richest / hottest man, and don't mind sharing
>In nature, men will always try to get as many women as possible, and don't mind splitting their attention
>In nature, women have little loyalty and will commit themselves heart-and-soul to a man one day then leave his ass for the new alpha when he's deposed
>In nature, men will do almost anything in order to keep women happy - including constructing society and subsequently handing over that society to women
>In nature, men are incredibly jealous and will kill other men for sleeping with their woman

When you look at the sum of our understanding of human psychology (which is assumed to evolve more slowly than civilization), all depictions of ancient relationships through art and history, and the behaviors of uncivilized tribes living detached from human society, the assumed behavior is:

>Women are hypergamous (they marry someone of higher caste / status)
>Men are polygynous (they have multiple women)
>If a woman tries to be polyamorous (have multiple men) it results is one of the men dying

People in this thread are acting as if society is rules that cops enforce but the truth is that society is an interconnected conscious being that evolves in tandem with the individual beings.
The reason there are no polygamous societies is because they are incoherent messes that got pushed aside by monogamy. How do you even pass on polygamy? You can't!