A Corbyn Government Will Respect and Abide by the Good Friday Agreement.
The tories hate it.
>There is a slow realisation washing over the people of Northern Ireland. The realisation that an intrinsic part of the Good Friday Agreement - an agreement that brought peace and stability to the island of Ireland - is quickly disappearing. It is fast becoming a casualty of Brexit and the UK government’s failure to fully implement the UN registered bilateral agreement into action.
The Ulster electorate has shifted away from the deafeatism of the 1990s to glorious victory of the DUP. Tear up the Good Friday Agreement and impose Unionist supremacy.
Christopher Jones
UK isn't going to force a hard border or any checks at the border. The only ones who'll be failing to adhere to the good friday agreement are Ireland at the order of the EU. Ireland will be enforcing a hard border and the EU will be the ones making them.
The best and most logical way to fix this is for Ireland to leave the EU with the UK and eventually reunite with the UK.
Charles Robinson
if they can't be trusted to keep this agreement why would be they be trusted to keep others.
The UK could be under sanctions if they disregard this.
In voting for Brexit they represent only about 30%
Remain is now the 69% preference
however, the good news is that while people are waking up to the effects of a hard border, for the majority of people thi sis not reason to go back to conflict. Only a very tiny minority now supprot conflict. Everyone else has worked out that since the IRA stopped being violent, the British Army went away adn the economy got better, adn a better life for all happened. Violence will just kill that good life, with no hope of a better life as a result (union with the south will be unlikely to make for a stronger economy or a better life)
the old nationalism is dying.
Julian Nguyen
>The best and most logical way to fix this is for Ireland to leave the EU with the UK and eventually reunite with the UK.
meant to say - thanks for the laugh. this is the funniest shit I have seen in weeks.
Zachary Rodriguez
Yeah, why the fuck would anyone trust Ireland and the EU? They're looking to break a legally binding peace agreement. There should be sanctions imposed on them if they put a hard border on the island of Ireland.
Connor Walker
Sorry brits but you've bitten off more than you can chew - if you want to keep your "sovereign nation" you're going to have to let go of some, most or all of your "overseas territories". Truth is you just don't have the power to main control of them anymore - as it stands you don't really even have the power to maintain control over your own island!
Downsize to something more manageable.
Easton Sanchez
> UK decides to leave the Eu, thereby breaking the conditions for their other agreement >it is the EU's fault.
hmmm.
not really good at this thinking thing,are you...
Lucas Butler
We're not breaking the good friday agreement by leaving the EU. Ireland and the EU want to break it by forcing a hard border. The UK has said it will not impose any border between North Ireland and Ireland. It's all on Ireland and the EU but rather than own up to it, they're shifting blame on the UK ("you can't leave or we have to impose a border! It's your fault!" is literally what they're saying).
Luke Roberts
Uk broke the good friday agreement with brexit Im happy though No deal see you 30th best result of Brexit. Perfect case study to see EU benefitd
Jaxson Brown
Corbyn and May, two idiots in British politics, leading parties people only vote for because the others are irrelevant.
Dominic Morris
Wrong. The UK has not broken a single aspect of the good friday agreement. Our supreme court even found this to be the case.
The ones who want to break it are the EU by forcing Ireland to put a hard border up if they don't get the deal the EU wants.
Landon Lopez
So, UK says they are renaging on all economic, customs, regulation and other agreements with the EU, but it is the EU's fault if they say "we cannot jsut let you import any old shit adn fuck about with any old customs tarrifs unilaterally and let you freely bring stuff into the EU"
nope.
the UK knew what it was doing. this problem was highlighted many times, especially by Norhtern Ireland politicians, during the referendum. the Uk chose to belittle the issue and ignore it.
Boris Johnson was confronted - told it was a problem, told it could not be done - that the UK had obligations under other international treaties which it would be tearing up - and simply made jokes about eating his cake.
well now he can't digest it. too bad.
the impossibility of this situation was known, warned about, and ignored.
Jayden Bailey
My eyes recognize the need for hard sovereign borders. You left loiscence boy. Who gave a leaving and voting to leave liscence anyways?
Logan Rodriguez
Holy shit. Europe is lost.
Gavin Campbell
>Our supreme court even found this to be the case. what case?
Isaiah Davis
>So, UK says they are renaging on all economic, customs, regulation and other agreements with the EU
The good friday agreement covers none of this. The EU are saying that EU law supersedes national law and because of this they are saying there must be a border between North Ireland and Ireland. The EU are the ones who want to force Ireland to break the agreement.
Juan Brown
stfu frog you know nothing and dont get an opinion
Gavin Diaz
the tories are a regressive force in respects to the GFA.
The EU is barely respecting it too. I'm always wary of germans.
You mean Britain forces this. Cant be sovereign if you have open borders. You gonna take in all the rapefugees then? You got kicked off to coward isle and pretend you are worthy of an opinion
Cameron Nelson
Fuck off plastic paddy. Norn Iron has barely any rapefugees. Its your beloved Republic that is obsessed with progressive politics and accepting niggers.
Dominic Jones
The EU aren't respecting it at all. They're telling Ireland that in a no deal situation they must erect a hard border.
North Ireland and Ireland have an agreement for open borders. This is something both countries agreed to. We do not have open borders, we have an agreement with one other country.
Since this happened, the EU has continually given it's self more power and is now saying that EU law is more important than the laws of individual nations. This is the problem. The EU are the problem.
Chase Collins
From Northern Ireland. was active in local politics for forty years. Know all the major authors of the agreement.
also know the author of this paper which is probably the most sane reaction to it all.
is correct int hat the GFA does not cover the economic etc regulations - but it was written in the understanding that those EU structures were in place. Removing them is a proble,.
however is wrong. Not only does international treaty supercede national law (in most countries treaties are on a par with contitutional law - they are agreements and obligations taken on by the nation at top level and the nation has by promising them to other nations given its word not to break them at local, national, level.
so the Eu is clearly in a position that by treaty among all the EU nations it cannot allow a soft border with a third party state. the UK knew that when it agreed to become a third party state. The UK chose (blindly, stupidly, despite being warned) to break its agreements .
Blake Ross
No wall means let them in Noone is a citizen on stolen land. I agree truth is always a problem in London. Can't pretend to be blameless whence Brussels doesntvgive the orders.
Ethan Roberts
>They're telling Ireland that in a no deal situation they must erect a hard border.
because Ireland has international agreements - includign teh WTO agreements - which require this.
so does the Uk by the way - but they are trying to pretend they are keeping their word while breaking it quite obviously.
you know that whole "we can trade under WTO rules, it will be no problem" thing the tories spout? well then, you have to have customs control at your borders.
it isn't the EU bullying you. the UK agreed to this.
Once again, this is entirely a problem of the EU. They're saying EU laws are more important than the laws of individual nations. This wasn't the case back in 1998. The EU have just given themselves more and more power since then.
I reiterate. The UK is not going to force a hard border, the EU is going to force Ireland to impose a hard border even though Ireland has stated it doesn't want to and would break the good friday agreement. This is entirely the fault of the EU and shows their over all objective of eliminating individual nation states. Ireland would be smart to leave now and rejoin the UK.
Grayson James
So the UK is cancelling brexit?
Zachary Hill
>North Ireland and Ireland have an agreement for open borders.
no they don't
it was under EU freedom of movement that the open border appeared. (there is a Common Travel Agreement which is not a treaty, is not legally binding, and applies only to Irish and UK citizens - it predates the GFA by about sixty years, and was superceded by EU law)
the EU principles of freedom of movement etc were what facilitated the GFA
Xavier Baker
While we're on the topic of the WTO. They do not force any country to secure their borders, including customs checks.
Infact, the WTO doesn't dictate what any country does or how any country is run. You should really learn what the WTO is and does because you don't sound like you have any clue.
Noah Carter
>and would break the good friday agreement. no it wouldn't
but it puts a strain on the peace process, and strains the GFA
but again, EU law does by treaty override local law in some cases. this has always been the case. It isn't ireland that is choosing to leave the EU. And by the by, nor did Northern Ireland.
this is a problem caused by (many now dead) idiot english people.
Josiah Gutierrez
with any luck
Lucas Young
Wto is a transnationalist globalist kike group.
Grayson Evans
Ah, I wanted to see the fatties die with no insulin. Maybe please lob a few ffl over and tell them to reclaim some property from some squaddies?
Liam Perez
you cannot trade under WTO rules without having a customs tarrif schedule they approve (so they can interfere with your decisions) and which you enforce.
you cannot say you will charge a tarrif to one country adn not to others. you must control your trade flow, and report it under the rules.
how do you do that with no border?
Noah Smith
Destroy the Irish. No loss, they are just too retarded to live.
Michael Martinez
>ffl ? what?
Joseph Cruz
says someone who voted for the most retarded thing the UK has ever done?
Jayden Barnes
>we lost now we wahhhh
Samuel Allen
Isnt he communist that promotes non white immigration and racemixing? Why would people vote for him?
Tyler Perry
Just gonna say this, back in the early 2000s there was a hard border (imposed by Ireland). It included armed police and military.
We don't want a border, Ireland doesn't really fucking care it seems.
Aiden Harris
French foreign legion? Cancel brexit then
Nathan Clark
And this does not mean customs checks at the border.
WTO does not force countries to secure their borders or to do customs checks at their borders. The WTO only forces countries to trade under an agreed on set of rules which are deemed fair. But given the shit China gets away with, I doubt anyone is going to care whether we do or don't have a border between North Ireland and Ireland.
Jace Ward
You care. And nice plans, its okay cause China. China bent the ass to Europa, so its good for you to be Russia for Poland now.
Jackson Howard
There are also customs and duty checks on the Irish border right now, but they're so transparent almost no one seems to know they even exist. (Smuggling alcohol and tobacco across the border is a big issue because different duties in each country, so these things are checked to make sure duties on these goods are not being avoided).