You have ten seconds to show me proof that God exists.
HARDMODE: can’t say muh bible
You have ten seconds to show me proof that God exists.
HARDMODE: can’t say muh bible
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Nothin but a God could be responsible for a cosmological beginning
You have ten seconds to show me proof that God doesn't exist.
if God doesnt exist the """"God"""" does exist and hes been calling an aweful lot of the shots over the 1000s of years
Burden of proof, fag
Look at this and tell me God doesn't exist
Explain what the known universe exists within.
I'll wait for a cogent answer.
Yea, you claimed god doesn’t exist. Now prove it.
That's not how it works retard. There's mountains of evidence for/against liberal topics like "muh wage gap" "muh gun violence" "muh race and iq have no correlation" but do are their minds open to these truths? No. It is the same with all things, you cannot accept truth unless your mind is open to it. Open yourself to God, and he will show himself.
Either that or talk to a priest instead of wasting our time with your slide thread shlomo.
He didnt tho. He didn't claim anything.
you have ten seconds to give me sauce
This is a fallacy born out of Your Assumption that things don't exist until demonstrated.
Not your fault tho, it's a biblical meme that was put in your head from Genesis 1:2 "Now the earth was formless and void."
Who or what started the big bang?
State why said god could exist from nothing yet other things can't possibly do so.
Fuck yes, this.
So he has no position? Why should I prove anything to him?
You have ten seconds to show me proof that science exists.
HARDMODE: can’t say muh peer-reviewed studies.
Protip: you wanna start an evidence-based discussion? Don't exclude evidence.
You are here right now.
You have ten seconds to prove that you exist.
Protip: you can't.
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Thoughts of God existing make me feel good. If God didn’t exist, they wouldn’t. Ergo, god exists.
need I say more?
because He's GOD!
A significant amount of functionnal information requires the existence of an intelligent mind.
Life, DNA, the universe, its rules, the code needs a coder.
Reading a good book make you feel good. Does that means that it's a real story?
Claim X requires proof X
>Gun control increases murder. Insert statistic
Claim notX requires proof not X
>Gun control does not help. Insert statistic
What you say:
>You cannot ask for proof of claim X because others claim notX and dont listen to proof notX
We don't need god, but we do need morals back somehow.
there's never been a god ever seen, heard, or even detected at any locatation on Earth or in space throughout all of history ever
The problem is that DNA is so full of redundance and flaws that IF there is a coder, he's a shitty one. Even a normal human would do better in billions of years of trial and error
>all things that exist have a cause
>the universerse exists
>the universe has a cause
Nothing could create a universe but a God.
>oPeN yOuR mInD tO gOd
What does that even fucking mean?
That redundancy exists for a reason.
Wrong. There is no "junk" in DNA, everything has a purpose/function.
Yes he has no position, and asking him to believe something that is not part of his current position requires proof.
You could say the same thing about how a god was created.
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>This is a fallacy born out of Your Assumption that things don't exist until demonstrated.
You are an idiot. There is no such assumption. There is assumption that before accepting outlandish claims we need evidence.
That's no longer relevant then. We don't care about this realm.
>A significant amount of functionnal information requires the existence of an intelligent mind.Life, DNA, the universe, its rules, the code needs a coder.
what you mean to say is a god with Jew-magic power
God exists because we are all that God. We are God having a human experience.
So if god wasn't created, he's causeless?
Should the results of random actions be worshipped, then?
It's impossible, religion is a cope
gonna need a source famalam
You just got to believe.
>fallacy of appeal to ignorance
Dumb atheist.
Why is the entire world against one man? why op?
John 15:18
The collapse of another universe
You are here with the rational free will ton question the nature of your universe
1. There are things that are caused.
2. Nothing can be the cause of itself.
3. There cannot be an infinite regress of causes.
4. Thus, there had to be a uncaused first cause.
5. The uncaused first cause is God
6. Therefore, God exists.
>Nothing could create a universe but a God
multiple gods could also create a universe (provided that they all had magic Jew power )
It's just "inference of design"... like when a scientist is studying old ostracon, he can makes the difference between a rock a an real pot.
And just like that you've conceded that God exists.
If you wanna read more, here's the argument. THe Kalam one's really good
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1. Every being is either necessary or contingent.
2. Not every being can be a contingent being.
3. So there exists a necessary being upon which all of the contingent beings depend.
4. This necessary being is God.
5. Therefore, God exists.
This, the fact that you can contemplate existence proves there is something greater than the material world. I think therefore I am. The problem is that humans aren't built to comprehend the totality of existence.Humans can only comprehend a piece of a fractal. A much higher being can comprehend the entire fractal.
you know this guy is based as fuck in a country which predominantly is Christian
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Theist here, but his arguments were contradicted.
Not a coherent, harmonious universe, in which the alternation between day and night, and our protective ionosphere, remains precise and streamlined, and that the sun and moon distance/size ratio is perfect to create right sized solar eclipses, etc...
Euler’s identity.
If you don’t see it I can’t help you.
The idea that everything came from one particle for no particular reason caused by no particular things is much more absurd than the existence of a creator.
HIS ARGUMENTS ARE OBSOLETE AND HAVE BEEN CONTRADICTED.
Society went from believing in God to Atheism to Luciferianism
You exist
>if someone can prove God in my small, impossible to fulfill challenge
Existence
>streamlined
So deserts were streamlined for cactus?
It's logically impossible to exist from nothing. God however does not "exist from nothing".. he's always existed. That's a very big categorical difference. Has the universe always existed? No? Then it came from something. Has God always existed? Yes, ergo he didn't come from something, he's always been.
Also what dr Manhattan realizes at the end of watchmen
>no matter how much he can quantify and analyze somehow out of the the infinite possibilities and interactions required to make the woman he loves occurred and occurred at the period of time he was alive to know her
you're not supposed to ask for a proof. You're supposed to accept it on faith alone. That's how their game works.
You dont know that
No it's true. It's an assumption you hold so dear, you can't imagine a different world. It shapes your perspective.
It's why you can accept someone saying "X doesn't exist" without evidence but you can't accept someone saying "X does exist" without evidence.
Any true rational person would need to see evidence for both. But you make an exception for denials. It's because you falsely assume that nothing exists until demonstrated.
Blind faith is doomed
God Is just an incomprehensible entity that sorrounds humanity and it's bigger than our existence.
Humans tend to believe, cause when they dont is a sign of abnormality and get excluded from the group.
There are few to almost no atheists, those who declare themselves as atheists are a bunch of inmature who think they have passed their faith instinct. The only thing atheists change is on what they believe, turning them into modern pagans
The Bible is not peer reviewed. The issue is it is completely impossible to prove there is or is not a god, but it is possible to prove the Bible is not 100% accurate, which proves it is not the word of god. It's against the rules to even question it. We can prove that certain aspects (historical events, predictions) of the bible were undoubtably false, which proves that the biblical God is fictional. The universe may have a creator, but there is no reason to believe it cares about us.
>We don't need god
God is everything, God is love and compassion. I will pray for you
sauce?
Today there is a thick carpet of sulfur covering Sodom.
I dont what evidence you think you have, you're being deceived by satan worshippers
You know what every single person to have ever lived, has seen, heard and detected? That's a bold claim user, I assume you you have the evidence required to validate such a claim?
are we still meeting today?
i dont need to show proof. God will contact you personally if he thinks you need to believe in him.
If not, you dont matter in godly games.
is that the north pole?
The exact same could be said of string theory and atheists believe in that. The exaCT same could be said of dark matter and atheists believe in that. The exact same could be said of intelligent life outside earth and atheists believe in that
Atheists casually believe in all sorts of things which have no proof but suddenly demand proof for this one thing and act total smug and enlightened over it.
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>trannies
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>money
Too many things in life centered around perversion and materialism designed to steer you away from the correct path.
Prove that Zeus doesn’t exist.
If you can’t prove it, then he MUST exist.
your DNA.
Again, you're just assuming. Try to be calm and rational and when you don't know for sure the answer is "I don't know for sure."
We know the names of the people who made them up.
Actually he does exist. It's just that, "Zeus" is an alias for a demon. Same goes for all the other, "gods."
Great thread faggot
So prove multiple gods don't exist. (crickets chirp as no reply)
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this, but uniroincally
if you die an atheist its because youre a subsoul not worthy of God's kingdom
We simply don't know.
Why? I haven't taken a stance. I don't have to prove anything. Yet according to your claim God, in fact, does not exist. And you follow that up with a horrendous argument.
But god exists because it is what we can't control
The injustice, the most powerful, the kindness, the luck, the everything, the existence. We form god, but it was there from the beggining, acting by it's own. When it created us we always knew it, that we were it's best creation because we could understand that it is there.
Every culture had their own gods. Even to these days. The time when we believe in no god it's the time when we ascender... or descended
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>if you die an atheist its because youre a subsoul not worthy of God's kingdom
If God dies it's because he's not worthy of the Atheist kingdom ( logic, science )
God is the human collective, god punishes humanity when it makes stupid mistakes and causes civilization wide decay, god blesses humanity when humanity puts civilizations stability and healthy first.
You're argument is so stupid that a hell must exist for you to be punished eternally for it
You're not rational, you're just skeptical.