Can someone explain to me why Jow Forums is in full meltdown mode? what happened with Trump? I've been away

FPBP. OP can't even use (((Echoes))) properly because he's a kike. The same way that kikes can't draw swastikas properly in real life.

He did something that the Discord Trannies thought we wouldn't like

This is what happened to drumpf

Im voting Democrat now so we can hopefully speed up the start of civil war dos electric boogaloo

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people are pissed because they defended and supported him, alienating themselves from friends and family, only for him to renege on his signature campaign promise and reveal himself as a fucking liar traitor
fuck trump i hope they impeach his sorry ass

how silly those discord trannies are for thinking Jow Forums wouldn't like amnesty and increasing catch and release
MAGA!

wires exorbitant sum of money to Israel, creates all sorts of legal cuts into how we conduct our law enforcement to empower gangs like MS-13 to skate thru the country to perpetrate, fucks us on how we can spend the wall money and built it too (because they need their points of entry for the trafficking business), and a ton of other stupid fucking shit that no American ought to tolerate ever again from out (((them)))

go read Ann Coulter twitter....answers are there

Trump signed the biggest amnesty bill in american history and gave the biggest fuck you to supporters like Ann Coulter along with the Angel moms. This will completely turn the Southwest and Florida blue forever.

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It’s bad and it’s not good mate.

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>meltdown mode
Tranny discord, jidf, leftypol, and share blue friends are taking advantage of our more illiterate Jow Forums niggers by stating that there is amnesty in this bill. JUST READ IT

CNN and ABC are reporting that the border deal is a flunk because of how poorly the democrats worded it. Ride the AstroTurf wave for a few days and post cute Pepe’s or gore

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did he actually sign it yet though?

he signed it? from reading just now, it looks like the bill is proposed. he actually signed it - so it's law now? show me where it says amnesty for all, I don't see that at all

>le tranny discord and le shareblue
fuck off Kushner shills

Trump is a good goy

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He signed amnesty. His 2020 bid (and every decent conservative presidential bid from here and on) is over.

>voting democrat now
Nice try

Stop being blackpilled and read the bill and additional addendums and stipulations within it and stop taking one section out of context

Read the bill yourself and stop taking it out of context

It’s a law until Stepember, but I have a feeling Trump will renew it once more.

>Read the bill yourself and stop taking it out of context
The majority of illegals will now say they’re children so that they can stay. The same shit is happening in Europe with migrants saying they’re 8 years old.

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so he did or didn't sign it

Kek not even 5 minutes and here we are with two standard Astro turf responses. No argument is made yet insults are thrown. Let’s drop some pasta for these faggots

It's not an amnesty bill, for nth fucking time; you faggots didn't read it hard enough. I swear to God, I'm reposting this until you faggots calm the fuck down:
MYTHS ABOUT THIS SHITTY BILL SPREAD BY SHILLS AND CIA-NIGGERS:

>Trump can't deport illegals if they sponsor a UAC
Strictly incorrect. Sec. 224(a), emphasis added:
>None of the funds provided by [any] Act, or provided by [fees], may be used BY THE SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY to [detain, remove, etc.] a sponsor [or potential sponsor or members of their household]
This doesn't outlaw the detention or deportation of illegal sponsors, only effectively prohibits Homeland Security from doing this. However, Homeland Security isn't necessarily the only Department that can do this, especially under a state of emergency.

Furthermore, this section only restricts these actions if its based on information shared by Health and Human Services. Oh what, FBI? ICE doing their own investigations? No longer applies. HS can get their information literally anywhere else, and they're unimpeded.

Furthermore, even if the information came from Human Services, part (b) expressly makes exceptions for (emphasis added):
>a felony conviction or pending felony charge that relates to [child abuse stuff]
Because of its ambiguous wording, Trump can simply interpret the bill as ((felony conviction) OR (pending charges for child abuse)) instead of the possibly intended ((felony conviction or pending charges for) child abuse). There are additional exceptions for associations with shady businesses and prostitution.

Literally shills trying to draw division with the idea that trump signed a bill giving people amnesty (not true), despite the fact that the bill had a veto proof majority, meaning that there was nothing that trump could do.

Except call a national emergency. Which is what he did. Which is why the shills are freaking out.

m8, any spic can walk into your house and youll be able to do NOTHING IF the spics is ¨sponsoring¨ a child or is a child

SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS THAT

You're extremely stupid if you believe thats how the bill should be interpreted.

Nope read the bill brainlet

But the big question: can Trump build THE WALL? (Technically, he can) (cont.)

Trump can't build a wall
Simply false. Per Section 230(a)(1):
>[$1.375B] is the construction of primary pedestrian fencing...in Rio Grande Valley
Per Section 230(b):
>...for operationally effective designs deployed as of [2017 Appropriations Act]
which effectively only permits barriers similar to existing fencing. Perhaps the most disappointing part of the whole Act.

...but a fence isn't a wall, right? Perhaps, but he can still build a wall.
>n-nani!?
I'll explain why, but first, some other myths:

>Trump can't build fence within certain natural Parks
True, per Section 231, the money specifically, but you're a faggot if you think it's worth building walls inside natural barriers. Even Trump doesn't want that. In any case, Trump can just build around, if applicable.

>Trump can't build fence within city limits without permission
Strictly incorrect. Per Section 232 (emphasis added):
>Prior to the use of any funds [for fencing], [DHS] and the local officials of [a city]...shall confer and seek to reach mutual agreement...such consultations shall continue until September 30, 2019 (or until agreement is reached, if earlier) and may be extended [later] BY AGREEMENT OF THE PARTIES...no funds [will be used while these consultations CONTINUE]
which means DHS just has to try. Come 30 September, they can tell the city to fuck off, end "consultations" on the spot by refusing to extend them, and start building. We don't need Democrat mayors' permission to build. Section 232(b) simply imposes a 60 day period to "submit comments", to which they must reply. Normal building procedures. There appears to be no restriction on the seizure of private property via Eminent Domain doctrine.

Why are Canadians the most faggy posters on this site?

yes he did

bruh I'm supermassive whitepilled that's why I know it's time to go out and conduct the business itself. I refuse to let them rot this nation another day thru lawfare

>limiting the scope of who can deport
>this is a good thing

And the final portion of this pasta
Now here's the kicker:

>muh section 204
Anyone who thinks section 204 as a bad thing is a shill who hasn't read the bill. It's simply an additional $31M for "U.S. Customs and Border Protection Operations and Support", contingent on the amounts collected by previous appropriations. This is in addition to other Operations and Support funding appropriate elsewhere in the bill.

But far more interesting is a bit later in the bill, Section 208:
>without regard to [section 503(d) limitations] the Secretary may [transfer] funds to [Operations and Support] as necessary to ensure the detention of aliens prioritized for removal
effectively allowing the President to gut other DHS as desired to detain and deport illegals. This effectively allows Trump to spend all of DHS's money ensuring "detention of aliens prioritized for removal".

But why does that matter?

Because, with the exception of the Parks restrictions, NOWHERE in this bill does Congress prohibit the President from building a "wall", "barrier", "fence", or "fencing"; it simply doesn't explicitly provide funding for it. Simply put, as long as the construction of the wall is reasonably "necessary to ensure the detention of aliens prioritized for removal", and the money stays within DHS, Section 208 effectively allows him to construct the wall with DHS funding, as it's outside of the scope of 230(a)(1). This bill explicitly lets him do this, even without declaring a state of emergency. If he's able to use even half of the remaining appropriations, that's another ~$3B. a state of emergency would allow him to get up to ~$3-4B more, if successful, for up to $7B plus the $1.3B Rio Grande Fence.

If he plays his hand right, Trump can literally build hundreds of miles of wall this year alone.

Go back to taking your hormones, or kill yourself. Preferably the later. The wall is being built, deal with it.

Did that bill get signed?

Show me where it says it limits the scope brainlet

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>only effectively prohibits Homeland Security from doing this

Yes it was signed. You can check it here whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/president-donald-j-trump-signed-h-j-res-31-law/

no you faggot people are pissed because he did NOT have to sign this bill - he could have vetoed it and let the senate re-vote on it
if they got a 2/3 majority the bill would be on THEM and we wouldn't be here pissed he signed a fucking bill preventing him from building the wall and making immigrant kids an amnesty loophole
but go head and keep defending this traitorous cocksucker
youll be the only ones voting for his stupid ass when he gets primaried

Reminder that THIS IS ALL PLANNED

Trump was never a good guy, only a good goy.

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There was a mass shooting in Aurora, also thats bretty based.

Nope. This is how I know you didn’t read the bill and are taking that statement in that one post out of context. Read this:

from the bill:
>None of the funds provided by this Act or any other Act, or provided from any accounts in the Treasury of the United States derived by the collection of fees available to the components funded by this Act, may be used by the Secretary of Homeland Security to place in detention, remove, refer for a decision whether to initiate removal proceedings, or initiate removal proceedings against a sponsor, potential sponsor, or member of a household of a sponsor or potential sponsor of an unaccompanied alien child

>Aggravated felons, pedophiles, sex crime, etc. are all disqualifiers, but extending this out to civil crimes (say... multiple illegal entries / 8USC§1325), let alone other offenses that are VERY common (say... document fraud 18USC§1546) that would cut out a large majority of sponsors/potential sponsors.

The issue is the catch-all language in 224(a) used to exclude funds from any source used for deporting sponsors/potential sponsors/household members etc.

On the other hand -- there is NOTHING stopping HHS from re-defining the criteria for who is eligible for a sponsor/potential sponsor. If, say, criminal history is an automatic disqualifier for "sponsorship" status, then NONE of the 224(a) protections apply.

Those "sponsor" criteria are set by the ORR/HHS internally via policy, and all those departments are run by senate-confirmed Trump appointees now. To me, this is the easy way around the 224(a) bullshit - adjust who can be a sponsor or not. Or at the very least narrow the criteria/weight things differently so it becomes easier to reject 'sponsors' for various reasons.

Game over.

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I literally quoted that from your post you fucking retard

>*looks at watch*
aaand right on time, another orchestrated tranny discord raid

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When you tards call someone a shill, what exactly do you mean?

Lurk moar, shill.

it means there are people who are literally paid to post here and push a certain narrative or agenda, depending on the group. there's many different groups that are here at any given time.

it means someone disagrees with them and they can't process it

Trump cucked and betrayed us all. That is what happened.

accelerationism it is, then

you niggers keep saying this

I WANT DETAILS

Because the 4D chess game that everyone thought Trump was playing turned out to be in reality some king of Zionist checkers where every move see's Israel crowned.

>king
kind. the fuck.

Fucking this. Finally someone who doesn't think the bill gives blanket amnesty to any beaner with a kid. It's still shit to force our immigration agencies to wrangle with wording like this, and doubtless there will be child smugglers who get away scot-free because of it, but the wall will stop far more illegals than these provisions can protect. The provisions will also only last as long as the Dems control the House, while the wall is permanent

No one says this is a good thing, Christ. What anons are saying is that it's small fry relatively compared to getting $8 billion for the wall

Been here ages but asIt's fucking retarded to assume everyone you disagree with is paid to do so

you are really naive if you don't think there are people paid to be here 24/7

anons have uncovered quite a few shill agencies

The idea of paid shilling is a holdover from the CTR/Shareblue days. The tyranny discord definitely posts here, though, and it's not surprising that "shill" gets used so liberally these days when anons keep parroting retarded shit like saying that the bill will let any beaner with a baby walk into the interior

You did not read the full post and I had to give you additional information because you’re a retard that refuses to read things on your own. I’ll pray for you

Don’t thank me user, thank another user that put this together. I’m just posting this for the atheist jidf lefty pol shill tranny gang

>CTR/shareblue days
>it’s over
>what is jidf
Oy vey kike, it’s like you’re new to Jow Forums

All of the anons who have been here long enough are just taking the opportunity to troll the hell out of the r/the_donald newfags who think Jow Forums is some kind of conservative hugbox and they are deluding themselves into thinking theres some kind of bogeyman shill team 6 trying to demoralize them.

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Sure shilling may exist here, I haven't actually looked into it yo find out. But the amount people that are just called shills to discredit anything they say is just counterproductive

>he doesn't know about the steel spazz

wtf i love open borders now >:(

Sage

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Go back and get in some more practice, shill, you're full on retard.

how else am i supposed to respond when someone points out trump betraying his supporters and my npc idol worshipping brain can't handle it?

true

jewish army is here
what a bunch of dirty kike weasels

It is counterproductive, but it's hard to blame Jow Forumsacks considering how much shilling the board has experienced and continues to experience. Remember all of that AOC spam a weeks ago? That was the discord. An user got screencaps from inside the operation, and hopefully someone has them saved and can post them. The only way to counteract this hyper reactionary board culture is have more nuanced discussions, but that obviously wont happen. Just look at how anons must now either classify themselves as complete Trump loyalists or complete Trump "he's a kike shill puppet" haters. There's been no room to discuss the funding bill and ED effectively because the dichotomy is "this proves he has always been a good guy sellout" and "Trump did everything right"

Like this, for example. If you dont declare him signing the bill to be a complete betrayal, then you must be an idol-worshiping faggot

Indeed, there are a handful of legit shills and some SJWs pissing in this ocean of piss but the amount is a fraction of a fraction of what "muh shills" posters think there is. Jow Forums is a fairly large board with over 100k post per day. It wouldn't be practical or productive to waste the amount of resources necessary to flood an ephemeral website with bullshit.

Every board on Jow Forums has trolls. Only Jow Forums has faggots that routinely feed them the reactions they want thus Jow Forums is the most popular board to troll. There's no grand conspiracy here.

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well, he campaigned for two years on fixing immigration and building a border wall
then he stalled for two years
now he just signed a bill hamstringing his ability to build a wall and at the same time declaring a national emergency that will get blocked in court, allowing him to shrug his shoulders and say "see? i tried"
almost like a betrayal of his supporters

Trump tricked the dems into giving Israel 38 billion for a wall, and they are now funneling it back into the US through an extremely low cost wall contract. He is essentially building the full 2,000 miles with only 2 billion dollars, and the dems are freaking out.

High tech firm...
>electrified.

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I disagree with most of that. He should've been more aggressive against Mitch to remove the filibuster, but it's incorrect to say that he stalled. He tried every spending bill to get money for the wall, The GOP kept sabotaging those efforts.
>now he just signed a bill hamstringing his ability to build a wall
Only the $1 billion given by Congress has any reason to be subject to their restrictions. The ED money has no strings attached
>at the same time declaring a national emergency that will get blocked in court,
Why do you think it'll get blocked. Plenty of people in the know have said that it is completely legal, and common sense says the same. There will be legal challenges, of course, but we always knew that leftists would sue the shit out of the wall. It wont accomplish anything

This is why we are worse than Democrats, when Dems attack us, we blame Trump for "allowing" them to attack us. When we attack Democrats they blame us and unite together. When we get screwed by Republicans, we blame Trump because its funny, meanwhile Republicans can just be the debt whoring special interest servants they want to be we'll just blame Trump.

Meanwhile Trump is the only guy who IS listening to us. Democrats think we are SCUM like worse than scum. Republicans mostly ignore us because we are "spooky neonazis" but at least try to please Trump but with a heaping helping of cuck.

At least they also try but how can you legislate when the other side will do anything in their power to sabotage and add poison pills to every bill just to tell you to fuck yourself.

We wanted the wall and Trump gave it to us but it got fucked up because the two party system SUCKS. I can't believe all the morons that are solely blaming him for our problems when he has at least honestly tried to do what we asked of him, even though politics is broken and honestly what he is doing is unpopular so it makes it difficult especially since the press is also completely against us.

Trump will do whatever we want so if we want balanced budget, he can Emergency that, or if we want late term abortions banned he can Emergency that, instead of spitting in his face we should just keep asking him nicely for stuff and I think it'll be better than what we are doing now.

this

They wanted something new and different and exciting for the country and unfortunately you can't get that when the masses get to vote everything into a democratic muck of safe sameyness.

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>no wall
>more illegals
>more money for Israel

then dont run on a platform of fixing the government and calling the rest of dc stupid when they outplay him at every turn

>not noticing pattern of every time trump does something a million crying concern trolls appear then disappear 2-3 days later even when pattern has repeated hundred+ times
Brainlet

It's the tranny discord mostly.

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He signed an amnesty bill that has people flipping out because it allows some DACA kids to stay in the states, but from my understanding it uses terms that confused people as they have meaning in the DHS. It said that any sponser or potential sponser can keep a DACA immigrant in the country. This is put people into a shit fit, but a DHS official said this is not the case, it only applies to kids that come alone and the sponser must fill out paperwork and include a place of residency. This could lead way for them to become full fledge citizens if they apply or they will run and be deported. I don't fully understand this issue and will continue research.

You're wrong

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any sponser or potential sponsor, or anyone who lives in the household of a potential sponsor.

It has nothing to do with DACA, user, but the rest of what you said is generally correct. It is not a process that any illegal can exploit just by crying to the arresting ICE agent. Also, as always, it is important to remember that these are provisions of a spending bill. Getting rid of them is as easy as reelecting a Republican majority to the House in 2020

gay tranny shills writing gay things because gay.

sage

my ID proves it. thread made by tranny shills.

And one of the reasons the two party system is still here is because so many of the people asking for it (including those from other countries) just want a more radical version of one of the sides (or "to the left" or "right" of them), which just feeds the fear of the other one that inevitably forces them into "establishment" votes. A legitimate third party can only come from people who *aren't* vehemently against either of the two major ones, ironically enough.

yeah sure we should just keep voting for the same rinos who drafted this shit bill in the first place

You want the "quick rundown? Fine.

>The SENATE put 1.6b into the December bill
>The HOUSE stripped it out in reconciliation
>THAT was the bill they sent Trump
>Trump told them to get fucked
>Governmentshutdown.exe
>Pelosi said "not one dollar"
>New bill has more than one dollar
>New bill had veto-proof margins
>Poison pill shit in new bill applies only to that money appropriated
>Trump can still move other existing appropriations around as CiC
>National Emergency will pass SCOTUS
>Wall STILL being built as we speak
>Some landowners on border have been volunteering to let their land get used

There are dozens of this thread on pol tonight. (((Somebody))) is scared and in full shill mode.

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imagine still giving a fuck about what blumpf does

I didnt say that. Clearly, we want to elect Republicans who aren't cucks. That's largely what happened in the 2018 midterms. Candidates who supported Trump did far better than those that didnt.

That can be true but still we all need to wait and see what happens, and with the national emergancy debate, we have to wait and see what the Democrats can pull out of their asses to stop any of this, as well as if what they try will work

there will be plenty to choose from - all they have to do is campaign on not signing amnesty bills

they are literally shills
You will notice how strange it is that the acceleration meme being pushed by the far right and the new "TRUMP BETRAYED US AHHHH AMNESTY REEE" tactic appeared at the exact same time.
Russia shit has fallen apart and this is the new tactic. Be wary not to fall for jewish tricks

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Imagine getting .01 shekel to shill a Mongolian throat singing forum.

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Nothing happened with Trump, other than he TRIGGERED the shills.
My God, those Discord Trannies are in full meltdown; it's extraordinary.

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