Is the Protocols of the Elders of Zion real? I know we're supposed to believe it's a hoax...

You mean like the bible?

Its fake as in it was not made by the jews it was written probably by someone who saw what was happening. Again its probably 99% with a few things in there being bullshit.

Can you point me to any resources where I can read more about it? Are there any historians who have written about it being a legitimate document? It's just really hard to find anything online, obviously Google doesn't want any counter info to be easily available

It's real

No. It was made by the jews. It lays out their plans perfectly. The fact you're trying so hard to pretend like it's fake just exposes how real it really is.

doesn't matter if it used to be, what matters is if it works, and if it's being implemented by anyone.

Sorta. You have to remember that the protocols are written akin to minutes of a meeting. They're also extremely vague on dates, locations, and events. The biggest evidence that they're not real is that the prime minister in czarist Russia (right after the Russo-Japanese war) actually launched a formal investigation into it and discovered that a large amount of it had been plagerized from older French works. So the Russians themselves admitted it was a fraud and it remained kinda dead in the water until the Russian revolution.

Why does nobody ever post it in these threads?

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So what about the French works it supposedly plagiarized from? Do they come from the minutes of actual meetings among Jewish elders?

the new legislation proves elder zit hoax

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Woah

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Honestly? Probably not. My logic being the person with the most reason and resources and protection at the time who hated Jews said it was a combination of plagerized works and vague commonly repeated themes.

go look up Sergei(Sergius) Nilus. this is the man who allegedly exposed it. Research what happened to him.

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the best argument that it is "fake" is that Jews created it to distract from The Talmud which says basically same stuff as Protocols, and more Goyim were getting woke due to increased literacy and cheap printing.

He’s not trying to pretend it’s fake. He wants to make sure it isn’t fake you fucking tard.

>plagiarized
Old Testament is 95% plagiarized.

that would tend to confirm Protocols is truly Jewish.

the book it "borrowed" from was fairly well know so "Czar's secret police" would not be the ones to "borrow" if attempting a "forgery".

This is the true answer, I have read a Rabbi who says the same thing (Rabbi Adelman basically wrote against the modern Reform and Orthodox Jews as heretics in "To Eliminate the Opiate")
Things to look into : The Frankists, a cult that had half a million European Jews following it in the 1700's, and still carried on at least til 1900, the first Jewish supreme court member had parents in the frankist cult. They believed in bringing about the messiah through sin, and the participated in wife swapping events, and perverse degeneracy. They became a big influence in secular jewry which combined hatered for christianity that most jews had with hatred with religion and cultural norms in general, which they learned from frankism and fighting the orthodox rabbis

Ironically the most "Jewy" Jews are probably our greatest allies in this fight because they respect the same general old testiment principles as Christians and throw out much fo the Talmudic gibberish that the Orthodox have, or the hatred for institutions that the Reform and secular have

It's not real and it's a waste of time to read.

It's a narrative framing of a very real and tangible force in the world that is rife with Jews

Nice post, m8.

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Think of it as a roman a clef. It's fiction in the specific details but everything there is a direct parallel of real events.

It was never shown to be a hoax. There was a trial where it was determined to be a forgery. A forgery means an illegal copy.

Aren't all you Americans committing a crime?

The Bolsheviks sentenced anyone in possession of it to death
>lol it's just fake goy

Look around you you fucking retard. Everything in that book is coming true.

keep in mind that a "forgery" is just an "unauthorized" copy of an original or the one and only original...the term "forgery" does not mean what is depicted is "unreal" or "fake"...

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>is there any evidence that it's not?
history between publication and today?

i think the ai is broke

le edgelord supreme AI's logic units are broken, please disregard the retard

>have a plan to control the globe.
>write it down in an easy to distribute way
>have it stolen and published on newspapers

yes it real, we prosperously fucked up the secretive part so you goys will have another reason to hate us.

Wasn't this book written in the 1900s?
Kingdoms had already risen and fallen many times
It feels like some kind of self-fulfilling prophecy of a book
Like it's still jews but someone already know it was going to happen to the west because it had happened in the east so they wrote it

Hell, I don't know

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It's irrelevant if it's "fake", written by them or an enemy.
What was predicted in the Protocols, in 1903, ALREADY HAPPENED

Your people aren't masterminds. They make mistakes and fuck up all the time.

How is that not in complete opposition to the first amendment?

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The bolsheviks which it was directed at are who claimed that it was a fabrication.

Beat me to it. READ THIS NEWFAGS

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what does it matters if the plans described in 1903 WERE IMPLEMENTED.
The discussion about real/fake was useful in 1904, 1905.
But FUCKING TODAY, it's clear the Protocols are a good description of plan that was in motion in 1903.
The real/plagiarized discussion is moot

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I wish one of autistic weirdos would make a design with a jew cooking over a kitchen fryer with caption... Protocols of the elders of fryin lol . I woud wear that

...I guess we'll just have to post ONLY fact based Jew red-pills.

Perhaps they want their expulsion sooner?

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Pretty sure Jews, like Satan, have to tell their victim their full plans for them to be able to come to fruition. Like how CERN released that "fake" human sacrifice video as a joke. But that is really what goes on there.

Also how their is satanic symbolism fucking everywhere. There is something about them acting in the open.

Tangentially related:

I was reading Ford's translation of Mein Kampf a few weeks ago and saw that it was littered with parenthetical inserts, one of which claiming that the Protocols was a forgery. Anyone know of an actual non-pozzed, non-kiked translation of Hitler's masterpiece?

underrated

They do it because if they didn't they'd all go insane.

They haven't reached a point of normalcy which they had pre-determined. Their plans are being exposed and the norms are waking up, therefore they've accelerated their plan, but it's revealing itself through the stress cracks.

They have already failed but they don't know what else to do.

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look man, have you read the protocols?
The protocol are either real (real minutes and lost, or written by an enemy of Zion) or they were written by a fucking prophet with a supernatural ability to see the future.
Either way is real/accurate/predictive, because it happened already.
the discussion about the origin is moot, history has proven the protocols true

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They always do this. They just keep pushing until they are expelled from that nation or they take over. They never stop.

I think that there are two possibilities:

1. The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is authentic.
2. It was opposition propaganda, then rediscovered and the plan put into place as is.

There is zero chance that the intentions therein which have come to pass is a (((coincidence))).

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Fucking book is so GOD DAMN ACCURATE you'd think a fucking TIME TRAVELER from today went back and wrote it for them.

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>Young people, we, the Russian, do not exchange friends for each other.
Huh?

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They will gladly admit to all their crimes or at least not give a shit about any accusation you hurl at them..

But call out their Jewishness...

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Theres no way it's a hoax. Everything in it has happened or IS happening. No way a hoaxer could be that accurate.

This is why you shouldn't invest heavily in gold because it's under kikery control they can dump and cause a metals recession whenever. The only truly backed investment is US treasury bonds. Boring, but the only assured value and mimics a low-risk vix to hedge your stocks. Little known to all the bond market still has a higher market cap than stocks and the more americans that hold treasury bonds the less control other nations have over our economy.

it is a forgery.
Read Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu, written in the 1850s or so, the passages are nearly identical.

people can shape current events as they like to show the book to be truth, everyone sees what they want to see.

>forgery
Man, when a forgery is 100-years accurate, IT STOPS BEING A FORGERY
And there's not much interpretation in the Protocols, it's not the horoscope. It's pretty clear and concise.

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Bump for light reading

Hmmm. Hm -Hm - Hmmmm...
Yeah.
Oh yes. I see it now. Yes, yes.

> I FOUND THE JIDF KIKE SHILL!

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Understand the holohoax psyop and what jews have done to the West post-WW2.

Read through this thread, it's all there...

archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/193822743/

archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/193822743/

archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/193822743/

Redpilling normies is the ONLY battle that matters now. Redpill them and the rest will work itself out.

>buzzwords to argue over so that you forget that everything contained within the book is happening in the real world
Jew tatics 101

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I've now read some points from what is posted here.
I find one major flaw - if we the jews plane to control the world by toppling countries why focus only on the west? OK the west is weak thanks to the jews, now what? the jews win or does it opens the door for Asians? (I'm not saying "and Africans" because we all know they are retarded).

after reading the protocolls I actually thought about converting to judaism because it's such a perfect plan.

>Why focus on the West?
Because white people are the only race smart enough to not fall for your GIBS baited hook - we prefer the opportunity to work hard to better ourselves rather than government handouts.
>now what
Time to create the "Eurasian Negroid race of the future".

Turned out to be true other than the last part and it's hard to argue that's where we're heading.

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>white people are the only race smart enough
you are giving your self way to much credit, especially when all the white retards in this thread say that we managed to fool you (the protocols came true).

Look at history chaim - We are extremely resilient to the temptations of Communism, Socialism and government handouts.

They are written by jesuits but nonetheless being implemented (by chabad jews and jesuits)

Feeling nervous Schlomo? You should be.

Bump for great justice

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Henry Ford swore by it, using his decades of business dealings around the globe. Was Ford an idiot? No. And he started his own newspaper simply to warn his fellow Americans about its authenticity.

It's basically OJ's If I Did It on the scope of the New Testament.

the Tsarist Okhrana wrote it as a message to their buddies on how to destroy the world

It's blurry tho?

Written by the aristocrats as their final stab after the kikes had already defeated them through intermarriage and banking. The kikes took the power from the aristocrats - stole their people farm over the centuries. An aristocrat created the protocols as his sore loser clause.
And as Henry T. Ford said
>if they are a hoax, why do the fit the facts so perfectly?

It's fake. Jews don't do this stuff in secret cabals behind closed doors.
No. It was probably notes and minutes from the world jewish congress and the Zionist convention.

Read them, look at world, see they're correct. The argument that it's a forgery or a fake is a distraction. Does it really matter who wrote it?

Protocols are an educated guess about what is happening behind the global political stage based on observable global and local environments and trends, statistical and comparisonal demographics of those who would be capable to guide said trends which lead to those environments and ethnoreligious culture and mentality of those demographics which can possibly set their goals and establish their methods

Its not a direct evidence, but it is a very thorough circumstatial evidence which pinpoints lots and lots of coincidences

>Jews don't do this stuff in secret cabals behind closed doors.

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Fucking phone posters.

They're very public about it, with magazines and mailing lists and journals and everything.
It only becomes antisemitic when you quote them with a frown instead of a smile.
Like
>Jews made Gay marriage happen, thanks to Hollywood and Will and Grace, hooray
vs
>Jews made Gay marriage happen, thanks to Hollywood and Will and Grace, boo.
You can even quote their publications word for word but if you disagree with their conclusions, you're an antisemite.

It's real. You really think Ford would shill a hoax this hard ? ...

Amen

Your attitude is the one of a kike engaging in pilpul.
See how you resort to insulting others when you tried to appear as innocently looking for information. That is what jews do and you are one. Soon you'll see whites that won't be afraid anymore of anything and will have enough of you and hang you on a street lamp you and your family.

Well did it actually outline the plan? And has most of it happened as written? If the answer is yes... user, I have some bad news.

No one knows. It was either a document prepared for the Zionist World Congress or it was a document prepared by a genius who had studied jewish tribal behavior and strategy and made a pamphlet outlining their future plans which turned out to all be true. Either way its true because jewish behavior has played out exactly as lined out in the protocols.

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I posted it from my phone and it's not blurry for me

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No, it's a misinfo book. This does not mean there is no truth at all in it, just that it's made to misdirect the reader.
The jewish utopia is real, and a much better book. It's made by a high ranking kike. And it says the truth, modern science is the Kabbalah and the Kabbalah is modern science.