"Barnes had two controllers check Nugent's radar; they found that it was working normally. Barnes then called National Airport's radar-equipped control tower; the controllers there, Howard Cocklin and Joe Zacko, said that they also had unidentified blips on their radar screen, and that they had seen "a bright light hovering in the sky...[it] took off, zooming away at incredible speed."[3] Cocklin told Zacko "Did you see that? What the hell was that?"[3]"
"As the city lights of Fairbanks began to illuminate the object, captain Terauchi believed to perceive the outline of a gigantic spaceship on his port side that was "twice the size of an aircraft carrier". It was, however, outside first officer Tamefuji's field of view.[12] The object followed "in formation", or in the same relative position throughout the 45 degree turn, a descent from 35,000 to 31,000 ft, and a 360 degree turn.[inconsistent][13] The short-range radar at Fairbanks airport failed, however, to register the object.[4]"
On November 17, 1986, the Japanese crew of a JAL Boeing 747 cargo freighter witnessed three unidentified objects after sunset, while flying over eastern Alaska. The objects seemed to prefer the cover of darkness to their left, and to avoid the brighter skies to their right.[8] At least the first two of the objects were observed by all three crew members: Captain Kenju Terauchi (Japanese: 寺内謙寿), an ex-fighter pilot with more than 10,000 hours flight experience,[2] in the cockpit's left-hand seat; co-pilot Takanori Tamefuji (為藤隆憲) in the right-hand seat; and flight engineer Yoshio Tsukuba (佃善雄).[9]
As soon as JAL 1628 straightened out of its turn, at 17:11, Captain Terauchi noticed two craft to his far left, and some 2,000 ft (610 m) below his altitude, which he assumed to be military aircraft. These were pacing his flight path and speed. At 17:18 or 17:19 the two objects abruptly veered to a position about 500 ft (150 m) or 1,000 ft (300 m) in front of the aircraft, assuming a stacked configuration.
In doing so they activated "a kind of reverse thrust, and [their] lights became dazzlingly bright". To match the speed of the aircraft from their sideways approach, the objects displayed what Terauchi described as a disregard for inertia: "The thing was flying as if there was no such thing as gravity. It sped up, then stopped, then flew at our speed, in our direction, so that to us it [appeared to be] standing still. The next instant it changed course. ... In other words, the flying object had overcome gravity." The "reverse thrust" caused a bright flare for three to seven seconds, to the extent that captain Terauchi could feel the warmth of their glows.
Air traffic control was notified at this point (at 17:19:15), who could not confirm any traffic in the indicated position. After three to five minutes the objects assumed a side-to-side configuration, which they maintained for another 10 minutes. They accompanied the aircraft with an undulating motion, and some back and forth rotation of the jet nozzles, which seemed to be under automatic control,[8] causing them to flare with brighter or duller luminosity.
Each object had a square shape, consisting of two rectangular arrays of what appeared to be glowing nozzles or thrusters, separated by a dark central section. Captain Terauchi speculated in his drawings, that the objects would appear cylindrical if viewed from another angle, and that the observed movement of the nozzles could be ascribed to the cylinders' rotation. The objects left abruptly at about 17:23:13, moving to a point below the horizon to the east.
Where the first objects disappeared, Captain Terauchi now noticed a pale band of light that mirrored their altitude, speed and direction.[4] Setting their onboard radar scope to a 25 nautical miles (46 km) range, he confirmed an object in the expected 10 o'clock direction at about 7.5 nmi (13.9 km) distance,[5] and informed ATC of its presence. Anchorage found nothing on their radar, but Elmendorf's NORAD Regional Operations Control Center (ROCC), directly in his flight path, reported a "surge primary return" after some minutes.[4]
As the city lights of Fairbanks began to illuminate the object, captain Terauchi believed to perceive the outline of a gigantic spaceship on his port side that was "twice the size of an aircraft carrier". It was, however, outside first officer Tamefuji's field of view.[12] The object followed "in formation", or in the same relative position throughout the 45 degree turn, a descent from 35,000 to 31,000 ft, and a 360 degree turn.[inconsistent][13] The short-range radar at Fairbanks airport failed, however, to register the object.[4]
Anchorage ATC offered military intervention, which was declined by the pilot, due to his knowledge of the Mantell incident.[5] The object was not noted by any of two planes which approached JAL 1628 to confirm its presence, by which time JAL 1628 had also lost sight of it. JAL 1628 arrived safely in Anchorage at 18:20.
At 11:40 p.m. on Saturday, July 19, 1952, Edward Nugent, an air traffic controller at Washington National Airport (today Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport), spotted seven objects on his radar.[3] The objects were located 15 miles (24 km) south-southwest of the city; no known aircraft were in the area and the objects were not following any established flight paths. Nugent's superior, Harry Barnes, a senior air-traffic controller at the airport, watched the objects on Nugent's radarscope. He later wrote:
We knew immediately that a very strange situation existed . . . their movements were completely radical compared to those of ordinary aircraft.[4] Barnes had two controllers check Nugent's radar; they found that it was working normally. Barnes then called National Airport's radar-equipped control tower; the controllers there, Howard Cocklin and Joe Zacko, said that they also had unidentified blips on their radar screen, and that they had seen "a bright light hovering in the sky...[it] took off, zooming away at incredible speed."[3] Cocklin told Zacko "Did you see that? What the hell was that?"[3]
At this point, other objects appeared in all sectors of the radarscope; when they moved over the White House and the United States Capitol, Barnes called Andrews Air Force Base, located 10 miles from National Airport. Although Andrews reported that they had no unusual objects on their radar, an airman soon called the base's control tower to report the sighting of a strange object. Airman William Brady, who was in the tower, then saw an "object which appeared to be like an orange ball of fire, trailing a tail . . . [it was] unlike anything I had ever seen before."[3] As Brady tried to alert the other personnel in the tower, the strange object "took off at an unbelievable speed."[3] On one of National Airport's runways, S.C. Pierman, a Capital Airlines pilot, was waiting in the cockpit of his DC-4 for permission to take off. After spotting what he believed to be a meteor, he was told that the control tower's radar had detected unknown objects closing in on his position. Pierman observed six objects — "white, tailless, fast-moving lights" — over a 14-minute period.[3] Pierman was in radio contact with Barnes during his sighting, and Barnes later related that "each sighting coincided with a pip we could see near his plane. When he reported that the light streaked off at a high speed, it disappeared on our scope."[5]
Justin Nelson
At Andrews Air Force Base, meanwhile, the control tower personnel were tracking on radar what some thought to be unknown objects, but others suspected, and in one instance were able to prove, were simply stars and meteors.[6] However, Staff Sgt. Charles Davenport observed an orange-red light to the south; the light "would appear to stand still, then make an abrupt change in direction and altitude . . . this happened several times."[5] At one point both radar centers at National Airport and the radar at Andrews Air Force Base were tracking an object hovering over a radio beacon. The object vanished in all three radar centers at the same time.[7] At 3 a.m., shortly before two United States Air Force F-94 Starfire jet fighters from New Castle Air Force Base in Delaware arrived over Washington, all of the objects vanished from the radar at National Airport. However, when the jets ran low on fuel and left, the objects returned, which convinced Barnes that "the UFOs were monitoring radio traffic and behaving accordingly." [5] The objects were last detected by radar at 5:30 a.m.
Jackson Hall
At 8:15 p.m. on Saturday, July 26, 1952, a pilot and stewardess on a National Airlines flight into Washington observed some strange lights above their plane. Within minutes, both radar centers at National Airport, and the radar at Andrews AFB, were tracking more unknown objects.[12] A master sergeant at Andrews visually observed the objects; he later said that "these lights did not have the characteristics of shooting stars. There was [sic] no trails . . . they traveled faster than any shooting star I have ever seen." [5]
Meanwhile, Albert M. Chop, the press spokesman for Project Blue Book, arrived at National Airport and, due to security concerns, denied several reporters' requests to photograph the radar screens. He then joined the radar center personnel.[13] By this time (9:30 p.m.) the radar center was picking up unknown objects in every sector. At times the objects traveled slowly; at other times they reversed direction and moved across the radarscope at speeds calculated at up to 7,000 mph (11,250 km/h).[14] At 11:30 p.m., two U.S. Air Force F-94 Starfire jet fighters from New Castle Air Force Base in Delaware arrived over Washington. Captain John McHugo, the flight leader, was vectored towards the radar blips but saw nothing, despite repeated attempts.
Ethan Morris
However, his wingman, Lieutenant William Patterson, did see four white "glows" and chased them.[3] He later said that "I tried to make contact with the bogies below 1,000 feet. I was at my maximum speed...I ceased chasing them because I saw no chance of overtaking them."[3] According to Albert Chop, when ground control asked Patterson "if he saw anything", Patterson replied "'I see them now and they're all around me. What should I do?'...And nobody answered, because we didn't know what to tell him."[5] After midnight on July 27, Major Dewey Fournet, Project Blue Book's liaison at the Pentagon, and Lieutenant John Holcomb, a United States Navy radar specialist, arrived at the radar center at National Airport.[3] During the night, Lieutenant Holcomb received a call from the Washington National Weather Station. They told him that a slight temperature inversion was present over the city, but Holcomb felt that the inversion was not "nearly strong enough to explain the 'good and solid' returns" on the radarscopes.[15] Fournet relayed that all those present in the radar room were convinced that the targets were most likely caused by solid metallic objects. There had been weather targets on the scope too, he said, but this was a common occurrence and the controllers "were paying no attention to them."[16] Two more F-94s from New Castle Air Force Base were scrambled during the night. One pilot saw nothing unusual; the other pilot saw a white light which "vanished" when he moved towards it.[11] Additionally, "civilian planes flying into Washington reported seeing strange glowing objects in places where the radar was getting blips."[3] As on July 20, the sightings and unknown radar returns ended at sunrise.[17]
>Le daily wacky conspiracy threads by JIDF Kikes like to push irrational conspiracies like faked moon landings, le Illuminati/Masons, flat earth, absurd 9/11 theories (there were no planes), le lizard people etc. etc. to do one thing... to make people that discuss information outside of what the (((MSM))) gives us look retarded and to cover up for jews.
This is called well-poisoning and gas-lighting. Jews do this to keep normie goyim from looking into or thinking about legitimate non-MSM information too much, e.g. the jew subversion of our media and government or the exaggerations and outright lies surrounding the holohoax made for political gain.
9/11 is a good example... Israel had a big role in 9/11. How to well-poison this subject manner? Make sure any threads about 9/11 include discussion of "there were no planes", "it was CGI", "a nuke brought it down", "an energy weapon brought it down" etc. and other absurdities. This will get any normies to reject ALL non-MSM information about 9/11, including what they want to cover-up (Israel's role).
Prior to the incident, early November 2004, the Ticonderoga-class guided missile cruiser USS Princeton, part of Carrier Strike Group 11, had been tracking mysterious aircraft intermittently for two weeks on an advanced AN/SPY-1B passive radar.[9][1] Navy officer Kevin Day, stationed on the Princeton, recalls that he first noticed the clear radar traces of 8 to 10 objects around the 10th of November. They were travelling southwards in a loose though fixed formation at 28,000 ft in the immediate vicinity of Catalina Island.[10] He was startled by their slow speed of 100 knots, but received confirmation of their presence from radar operators on other vessels. Regular observations were made of a similar number of objects over the following six days.[10]
When the same event occurred again around 9:30 PST on 14 November 2004, an operations officer aboard Princeton contacted two airborne U.S. Navy Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornets from USS Nimitz, flying a combat exercise at the time. The aircraft were two-seat variants, and each pilot was accompanied by a weapon systems officer (WSO). The lead Super Hornet was piloted by Commander David Fravor, commanding officer of Strike Fighter Squadron 41. The second fighter, flying as wingman, included Lieutenant commander Jim Slaight as one of the two officers aboard. [9]
Princeton's radio operator, Kevin Day, directly instructed the pilots to change their course and investigate the unidentified radar spot observed by Princeton's own radar.[1] This was done to determine if the objects posed any collision danger to an upcoming air defense exercise.[10] A female radio operator on the Princeton however asked the pilots if they were carrying operational weapons, and the pilots replied that they were not.[1] The weather conditions for that day showed excellent visibility with a blue sky, no cloud cover, and a calm sea.
When the jet fighters arrived on site, the crew of four saw nothing in the air nor on their radar. On the Princeton's radar however, it was noticed that the object now dropped from 28,000 ft to near sea level in less than a second.[10] As the pilots looked down at the sea, they noticed a turbulent oval area of churning water with foam and frothy waves "the size of a Boeing 737 airplane"[11] with a smoother area of lighter color at the center, as if the waves were breaking over something just under the surface.[11] A few seconds later, they noticed an unusual object hovering with erratic movements 50 feet above the churning water. Both Fravor[12] and Slaight later described the object as a large bright white Tic Tac 30 to 46 feet (10 to 14 meters) long, with no windshield nor porthole, no wing nor empennage, and no visible engine nor exhaust plume.[13][14][15][16]
Fravor began a circular descent to approach the object.[11] As Fravor further descended, he reported that the object began ascending along a curved path, maintaining some distance from the F-18, mirroring its trajectory in opposite circles.[11][14] Fravor then made a more aggressive maneuver, plunging his fighter to aim below the object, but at this point the UFO accelerated and went out of sight in less than two seconds, leaving the pilots "pretty weirded out".[11][16]
Subsequently, the two fighter jets began a new course to the combat air patrol (CAP) rendezvous point. "Within seconds" the Princeton radioed the jets that the radar target had reappeared 60 miles away at this predetermined rendezvous point. According to Popular Mechanics, a physical object would have had to move greater than 2,400 miles an hour to cover the distance in the reported time. Two other jets went to investigate the new radar location, but "By the time the Super Hornets arrived [...] the object had already disappeared."
The Gorman UFO dogfight was a widely publicized UFO incident. It occurred on October 1, 1948, in the skies over Fargo, North Dakota, and involved George F. Gorman, a pilot with the North Dakota Air National Guard.
"I am convinced that there was definite thought behind its maneuvers. I am further convinced that the object was governed by the laws of inertia because its acceleration was rapid but not immediate and although it was able to turn fairly tight at considerable speed, it still followed a natural curve. When I attempted to turn with the object I blacked out temporarily due to excessive speed. I am in fairly good physical condition and I do not believe that there are many if any pilots who could withstand the turn and speed effected by the object, and remain conscious. The object was not only able to out turn and out speed my aircraft ... but was able to attain a far steeper climb and was able to maintain a constant rate of climb far in excess of my aircraft."
Jayden Taylor
Yes they are. And what of it? Would you like to meet one?
The pilot, flying from the Canadian city of Montreal to Heathrow, said there was a "very bright light" and the object had come up along the left side of the aircraft before it "rapidly veered to the north".
"The pilot said he saw "two bright lights" over to the right which climbed away at speed.
One pilot said the speed was "astronomical, it was like Mach 2" - which is twice the speed of sound."
UFOs are definitely real but their origins are up for debate. I seriously doubt such a thing as grays exist since there is literally zero evidence of them .
Luke Morris
He's just regurgitating information publicly available on the clear web and trying to subtly hype it.
On April 12, 1969 seven yellow disc or ball shaped objects were spotted above Pori Airport. Jouko Kuronen from the Finnish Defence Forces was on the airfield with his plane when he heard on his radio that the overseer of Fouga Magister planes was talking to fighter pilot Tarmo Tukeva. Overseer commanded Tukeva to go see what were those seven air balloons that floated over the airport. Overseer told to Tukeva that their height was around 1500-3000 meters. Kuronen wanted to see also those objects that the overseer was talking about. After taking off, he turned his plane to see what was above. He saw seven disc or ball shaped objects and a Fouga Magister which was approaching them. Then Kuronen's own radar spotted the objects and they were also spotted by the ground control. When Tukeva got close enough, he also could say that these objects were ball or disc shaped but he could not tell his distance to them when lacking set points. Then the objects took formation and accelerated with enormous speed to the north from the airport. A strong head wind did not seem to have any effect to their amazingly fast departure. The overseer told to Tukeva that he can't reach them and Tukeva who was flying after them with speed of around 435 mph (700 km/h), was left behind like he was not moving at all despite of that how fast he was really flying. The enormous speed of the objects were also proved by the fact they were reported on Vaasa, over 110 miles (177 km) away from Pori, in the same minute that they left the airport.
Yes they are real however the correct board is /x or /b
Andrew Cook
extraterrestrials don't have much of an ego. They don't care about petty racism. You clearly haven't met one yet you are fascinated by the unknown. They don't like your kind and you will never meet one.
Jayden Ortiz
How can I meet one? I'm open to new ideas.
Josiah Rogers
You seem like you're pushing wacky conspiracies because the guy never made any remarks. Merely pointing out the fact that multiple different credible sources from around the world said they saw things they can't explain.
Lucas Cox
I want to believe aliens are real, but I'm leaning more and more toward the idea that we're alone in this galaxy. I may be swayed by stupid Drake Equation stuff that's made me more and more pessimistic about the odds of intelligent life existing at the same time and in the same galaxy. But if there is a species, and they're a billion years old or so, then maybe it's possible. But why can't we see any evidence of them when we look out at the stars? Where's any indication that megastructures, energy collection/distribution systems, star harvesting or whatever? If the aliens exist, I'm leaning more towards extra-dimensional beings popping in from the 4th dimension somehow. It'd explain how they seem to defy the laws of physics.
Gabriel Bell
It's of extreme political importance that the Jewish cabal is concealing the reality of UFOs. Therefore it's a Jow Forums topic too.
Lucas Reyes
>but I'm leaning more and more toward the idea that we're alone in this galaxy
Its better to think this way. You do not want to seek discomfort.
Lucas Sanders
They're real and they're spectacular.
John Davis
based seinfeld poster
Jonathan Gonzalez
I'm not sure you want to. Who do you think you are?
Oliver White
Did you mean to respond to this
Charles Brooks
This is why I don’t discuss UFOs. They are what they are: Unidentified. If we knew what they were, they would categorically not be UFOs, but identified flying objects.
And the extraterrestrial hypothesis only exists because it is a catch-all, and is presently unfalsifiable.
Alien abduction, on the other hand, is a personal matter not meant to be taken seriously by academic research, but to be understood on a personal level only by those who have experienced something which fits the abduction narrative.
That being said, I have an abundance of experiences from childhood onward with shit that is unexplainable, and I can seek answers to it on my own, but I shouldn’t seek other peoples’ answers to my own issues.
That being said, I have experience with a number of entities that I vividly remember that have also involved seeing objects operating outside the technological means that humanity is known to have available to them, but I don’t speak out about it because I don’t want to contribute to the shitshow that people like George Noory and Art Bell shill on a nearly daily basis.
Aaron Campbell
No. But to answer your question, its public info and learning pic related can help you.
But its impossible, so don't even begin to try to.
I've studied this heavily. Something you have to understand is in the military, intelligence agencies and in politics no one talks about UFOs/ETs because you're effectively branding yourself as a crank and it impedes your career.
The "To The Stars Academy" is a bunch of CIA and literal Skunkworks personnel with a celebrity figurehead. They got clearance from the DoD to release those ATFLIR videos, they were a public manifestation of a US government project en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Aerospace_Threat_Identification_Program (the funding was a tiny amount and basically token funding to point to its existence) and the ATFLIR videos were legitimized by former democrat senate majority leader Harry Reid and other non-trivial politicians.
The whole purpose of this program is a PsyOp against the Russian government and military. The existence of CIA projects to push UFO theories to cover up research on Black Project aircraft has been known about for years.
They're trying to psyche out the Russian leadership by using those videos and accounts of naval aviators and radar operators about the speed and maneuvering of the "Tic Tacs" pointing towards EMdrive drones being fielded as early as 2004. They're not meant for public consumption but rather meant to be read by a skeptical Russian military analyst. The "747 sized underwater object from where the drones were appearing" = Submarine. The claims of how stealthy the tic tacs were, the claims that they were shooting up into the atmosphere and back down to sea level at mach 100 and zig-zagging in 6 degrees are all based on witness accounts and not actually backed up by the ATFLIR video footage.
They basically filmed footage of a single skunkwork prototype of a new form of propulsion that isn't militarily significant in terms of speed/maneuvering but simply has the novelty of not using jet fuel and lied about its capabilities.
Basically Skunkworks figured out an EMdrive type propulsion system, fielded it on a tic-tac shaped object and got it up to 200 knots or so. They then psyched out the Russians by sending them this coded threat to make their military analysts think they have a "Tic-Tac Gap" and that these tic tacs can swoop into the Russian mainland undetected at mach 100 and destroy all their nukes without them being able to respond.
This PsyOp was first pushed in 2015 with a detailed account on FighterSweep.com, a site the CIA knew was being monitored by Russian intelligence because it contained gossip from serving US pilots.
That's why Russia responded by fake-leaking the Status-6 Doomsday Torpedo, because they fell for the bait and threatened the US back.
Robert Reed
Yes, To the Stars perfectly dovetailed with TPTB wanting to spook Putin, and this was my conclusion. A cheeky troll basically.
Where is a good resource for your claims though? Good podcast?
John White
Being interested in both military aviation and intelligence agencies and knowing the commander of the black aces, a senate majority leader and a bunch of CIA/skunkworks/state dept people wouldn't attach their name to a UFO story unless it was part of a wider plan.
Also I knew the account by Fravor saying "a 747 in the water" was bullshit - the US would know post 9/11 if an airliner's transponder was turned off and the guided missile cruiser would obviously have a relay from the FAA of where all civilian air traffic was.
The way he insisted multiple times that the "747" object underwater was bubbling "not like a wake like you'd get from a ship but whitewater", he said that a bunch of times in both videos and the magazine interview to overcompensate that it wasn't a submarine - reverse psychology to make the ruskies know it was a submarine and therefore a nuclear-related threat.
Parker Jones
Sure, u know ur shit lad, but anywhere I can read further about CIA using UFOs as deceptive troll?
Matthew Miller
Also I think you have to know a bit about military aviation and intelligence agency history to know that this isn't farfetched or convoluted. Obviously a vague-brained normie will just go "what the fuck are you talking about" if they've never read about MK-series stuff and all the secret bizarre CIA PsyOps and they wouldn't have the first clue about how sketchy those videos were based on the accounts and the symbology on the FLIR.
If you know about aviation you'd know they were describing being talked onto a submarine by the Princeton CG/E-2 Hawkeye who knew the exact location of the submarine and the drone(s) and they were putting them on a course that put them in a merge holding at 25k feet at optimum speed for turning with the drones. They said the Princeton and NAS radar operators already saw the "UFOs" in previous days and they expect us to believe the commander of the black aces wasn't told.
It was choreographed and the air controllers knew and were telling unwitting aviators what to do, if the aviators themselves didn't know it was a fake intercept. That "Go Fast" video is suspicious, a fast sea skimmer and they're just laughing about it when it could be a nuclear cruise missile, not organic at all.
Jaxson Wright
>they're real well duh, all the cave paintings depicting your classic gray aren't hoaxes
Wyatt Bailey
If they have a good sense of humor and aren't shitskin barbarians extraterrestrial aliens are already better than and would them over 4/5ths of the human race.
Nowadays I almost cringe when I see these threads. Not because of the OP's attempt to redpill the masses but due to the usual low IQ "skeptic TM" NPCs that pollute these threads with their willful ignorance with questions such as >well, where are the evidence? The moment I see them is the moment I'll believe yet they've spend ZERO hours investigating the subject (apart from echo-chamber-ish videos from 'debunkers' that usually either cherry pick cases or focus on irrelevant blurry ufo videos that have no real factual value.
there is a tremendous amount of evidence of them. if you look for it, you will easily find it. some of it is absolutely fake - some appears to be genuine. the sheer volume of it all is exhausting - but is also very telling. the same stories all over the globe. but if you do go looking for it, you'll end up more despondent than you already are.
Luke Kelly
Adam Curtis? C'mon. That's 101.
Brandon Murphy
Digits say you're wrong and a faggot
Jaxon Morris
>yet they've spend ZERO hours investigating the subject (apart from echo-chamber-ish videos from 'debunkers' that usually either cherry pick cases or focus on irrelevant blurry ufo videos that have no real factual value. fucking 5 star post my nigga
I don't remember any sources about the UFO bluffing, I just remember noticing how retarded people appeared the more I read about military aviation, like people actually debating ET videos that area within ten miles of white sands or groom lake but operation mind control complete edition is a good book about the CIA and Wormwood is a good documentary on Netflix - yes it's Netflix but it's all sourced, little to no conjecture and it's very well done.
