Protip for newfags: Jow Forums will never be able to explain how vaccines have eradicate many diseases. They'll just go on about how the jews are bad and made vaccines, so therefore vaccines are bad. Make sure you get immunized and eat healthy.
It's also good to see the youth rejecting boomer conspiracies and educating themselves so they can get vaccinated.
Understand that pre-vaccine era was a time where horses and carriages roamed the streets, and they would drop feces everywhere.
Carter Bailey
>what are airborne viruses? >what are animals?
There's only one way to get sick I suppose.
Brayden Moore
>Over populated urban areas >Whole family of 12 shits in a vase in a room near where they eat >Don't have running water to wash your hands >Or anything >One day running water and sewers start becoming a common thing everywhere
Va-vaccines erradicated diseases guys
Eli Martinez
None of the elite or royals vaccinate. None of them. Jews don't do it either.
I'll stick with the trillionaires and Jews, you can have your goy shots, OP.
Jacob Rodriguez
Corelation is not relation.
More people have access to clean water, bugs (vectors) have been eradicated/controlled. Yadda, yadda, yadda.
I'm not into the religion of vaccines.
Isaac Rodriguez
vaccines is what they give to cows so that they can gram them into shitty conditions...
Ayden Barnes
And they can eradicate more. Thankfully modern medicine is making its way to the poor communities that need them.
Brandon Fisher
pre-tetanus vaccine: >step on rusty nail in field >die today: >step on rusty nail in field >get tetanus shot >live
Adrian Anderson
>strawmanning this hard
it isn't the vaccines or the idea that vaccines are the problem
it's the preservative metals they use and the amount of vaccines given to small children in a short period of time
Jack James
How could this be???? Vaccines are evil!
Joshua Williams
I've never even heard about vaccination shit this much until complete shills like you came here with the mainstream media's campaign against it.
Fucking niggers and Indians are bringing all these dead ass diseases back from their third world shit holes and instead of limiting migration, MSM is going hard against anti-vaxxors. You're a tool of the Jew just for making a thread defending the status quo when no one was threatening it.
I don't get it Let antivaxers do their thing? It's a win for us... And don't start your shit with herd immunity If you vaccinate and get I'll you deserve it by natural law
Mason Thomas
>until complete shills like you came >antivaxxers rhetoric will not warrant discussion >responding to retardation means you're a shill
What?
Nolan Myers
this single post just pulled the rug out from under this thread fucking kek
Jacob Fisher
He got the shot AFTER fgt, not before. UUUUgh ga ga (sucking own finger) I gotta vaccinate against meteorite dust cuz there may be a chance it falls and i get it. It's not like this periodical vaccination is just an excuse to print more jewish money and make the ''countries'' go into deeper debts to buy them and then 'renegociate' the debt payment, then go on a crisis, sell more land etc etc
Brody Lopez
>I gotta vaccinate against meteorite dust cuz there may be a chance it falls and i get it.
Fact: this is actually your argument
Blake Sanders
up to 15 years before or right after, either way it works, you have to update because you stop producing antibodies after years without exposure
Evan Fisher
All you nigger faggots need to understand that just because some vaccines work doesnt mean they are all good and you need your yearly flu shot.
Hammers are great and build houses but I can also bash your skull in.
Yes OP, some vaccines work very well.
However, some dont, like the yearly flu shot, given for a disease that is constantly changing and you still might get the flu. So why is it pushed so hard? Maybe, just maybe someone might be trying to inject you with some (((shit))). There are accounts of HIV vaccines causing Africans to become infertile, for example. Further, even reliable vaccines can be altered in malicious ways.
Lastly, the scientific arguement against vaxing kids is that the current vaccine SCHEDULE (certain vaxes at certain ages) causes autism in a certain percentage. Its not that ONE vaccine is all that bad (unless ur from Africa apparently). That's why you always see (((studies))) that prove vaccine X is safe and doesnt cause autism
> Jow Forums will never be able to explain how vaccines have eradicated many diseases, they'll just go on about how the jews are bad.
Means your a shill. I've browsed Jow Forums for years and before this last week where the mainstream media is trying to blame people who don't vaccinate for all these new diseases popping up, I saw maybe one thread about vaccination and why it's bad. I doubt most people on Jow Forums are even against vaccination. No one even preaches about it here.
Due to lax immigration laws, vaccines have eradicated no diseases.
David Watson
This. Had my doctor trying to shoot my child up with 24 shots all before he was four months old
Julian Anderson
Why are you this mad that people have a voice, and will respond to misinformation, and that so much you need to make a conspiracy out of what you'd rather not hear? I suppose the way to prove everything wrong is just call it a conspiracy.
Justin Sanders
Thimerosal is not used in vaccines for children under two years of age.
Thimerosal does not cause autism. Autism is genetic.
Eli Ramirez
>pushing goalposts this hard
>vaccines are bad, they cause autism. >oh they don't cause autism, well they're bad because they're poison >oh well, it's not the vaccines, it's the what they put in it. >oh there isn't mercury in vaccines? Aluminum is in organic food? Well BRB I know there's something bad about them.
Owen Allen
> why are you this mad that people have a voice
I'm mad because I'm sick of hearing about this and you're painting Jow Forums with this broad brush because it doesn't fit in with your MSM conspiracy theory that Jehovah's Witnesses are somehow reviving the plague because they won't get their shots.
I remember my sister-in-law asking me why my 3 y/o nephew didn't get chxpox after a chxpox party (which apparently people still have) so I violated HIPPA real quick to check his vax records and make sure that either my wife or I vaccinated him. >my wife and I are RNs so our families ask us what to do with their kids >2 of my in-laws are anti-vaxxers >tfw we vaccinated their kids for them anyways >we're at 7 illegally vaxxed kids with 1 more in the way Seriously, I feel bad for anybody who has loved ones at risk due to not being vaccinated. Must be absolutely terrible
The issue, in my opinion, isn't that vaccines are a jew creation. It's forced vaccinations I have a problem with.
Zachary Sanders
When we had our first son we asked 5 nurses their thoughts and 4 of them told us some pretty harrowing stuff about the side effects they've seen on the young kids. One of them told us a very personal story about her own son and how it fucked him up. All of them seemed scared to say this and made sure we knew it was off the record. The only nurse who didn't want to discuss just grunted at us which is quite similar to some of the pro schedule arguments I see people making on here.
You're right it's not because of anti-vaxxers. Vaccines aren't 100% effective. They were exposed, they got sick. That's simple. A lot of what I've been seeing as well is that some vaccines require multiple doses and parents don't bring their kid in for the follow up shots and those kids are being documented as "non-vaccinated", which they are, but anti-vaxxers get the blame. That is some classic SIDS right there. And what they are experiencing is some guilt/denial. It's why RNs & MDs need to seek professional mental help. I do. There's nothing shameful about it. The only reactions I've ever seen in my 12 years are: >Gardasil B4 & after market release, and >36 y/o DM2 pt who went into DKA after the shot b/c he was afraid of HCPs
Carson Nguyen
it's not the vaccines that are bad - it's the extra shit they put in them to make us autistic and docile
Ayden Bennett
>autism is genetic >autism makes it harder to get laid/ be social >marriage at all time low >arranged marriage nonexistent I guess that explains the skyrocketing autism rates
David Martinez
Out of the 1469 children deaths reported to VAERS between 1997 and 2013 44% are attributed to SIDS. Of the same 1469 child deaths 79.4% received >1 vaccine on the same day. Look, I'm just a concerned parent, but these explanations I hear just don't add up
Hold on. I might've not got my point across like I thought I did. I'm not trying to say that vaccines don't come without risk, because they do. I do believe the benefit outweighs the risks. Vaccines can and have killed through adverse reactions and it's unfortunate when it does. As I said the only reactions I've seen personally was a diabetic and Gardasil before&after market release, none of which were fatal. Gardasil before market release, I ended up refusing to give it because the reactions scared the shit out of me (only 1.5 week in the trial anyway so a lot of good I did there). Gardasil as it's on the market now is better but still pretty fucking scary and I still have to calm myself down when giving it. Still going to make my kids get it though. I just think it's stupid to throw dice with your life vs. getting a damn shot.
Chase Cox
Some seriously stupid niggers in this thread.
As long as you argue semantics and emotions and medfag memes you're not looking at a realistic comparison between the risks of disease versus the risks of the vaccine.
raisinghealthychildren.net breaks down the mortality and morbidity statistics and compares them to VAERS, in some cases doing so with the statistics from before vaccines were even released. With few niche exceptions, there is no vaccine that presents less risk than the disease, and in many cases this extends to the days when the diseases were running wild through the population. Math doesn't lie, and it's so simple to calculate that even niggers like you can confirm it for yourselves.
Samuel Jones
>doctors increase boundaries of the definition of autism >user is surprised that more people fall within those new, larger boundaries
I'm not an anti vaxxer though so I don't know what you're talking about.
Do you think everyone on Jow Forums also believes in a flat earth and invests in crypto?
David Watson
Anti vaxing is Jewish manipulation and misdirection for the real cause of Autism (which is caused by all the pesticide coated artificial crap they put in our food).
Hudson Bennett
Your peabrain is leaking out of your ears.
As someone who went to school in the 80s and 90s, it is obvious that autism is rare. There were two profoundly disabled children in my high school of ~2000 students (I don't count the three downies, the cause of their retardation was obvious), and only one of them may have fit the modern criteria of autism. Your thesis requires me to believe that somehow during all that time, we were overlooking the 1 in 34 kids constantly flapping their hands, smashing their skulls into things, and shitting themselves as we went about our day. Nobody over the age of 30 with two brain cells to rub together could ever believe that the modern prevalence of autism is due to nothing other than increased detection.
Fuck, have you ever seen an autistic child? You can't overlook those fuckers.
Henry Powell
This. This right fucking here.
Elijah Morgan
WHAT vaccine shill niggers never understand or discuss is that anti vax types never say or argue that vaccines don’t do what they intend. And even in the very few vax vs unvax studies to no ones surprise, the vax population got the full blown disease less than the unvax did. That’s great but that was never on the table. It’s all the other shit in the vaccines, the adjuvants, the preservatives, the cross specie viruses, the aborted fetal DNA. Etc etc that is questionable and causes problems.
ALL medical treatment carries risk and ALL drugs have “side effects”. For example getting a boner from viagra is a side effect. What you know as viagra was originally supposed to be a blood pressure medicine. The pharmas has some advertisers cook up a new illness, erectile dysfunction, so they could sell viagra! (Because prescribing a drug for off label use is illegal).
Vaccine ingredients can and do cause: DEATH by many ways, from so called SIDS (usually respiratory arrest), to cancer (usually from virus like SV40) Neurological and developmental problems INCLUDING AUTISM spectrum disorders Allergies such as foods peanut gluten dairy, and to stuff inside and outside (some people have become allergic to carbon, literallly carbon black like in ink look it up) Auto immune disorders and skin disorders like eczema The list goes on.
MEANWHILE, if you get measles, you have red spots and a fever for a few days. Death rate to measles in US was zero before the vaccine due to good nutrition and sanitation. Pertussis(whooping cough) you cough for a few days. Chicken pox you itch a few days. Etc. compare the risks... for example in an African country (guinea Bissau) there was a bad versus unvax study. The pertussis vaccine killed an estimated 10 times more kids via SIDS and related deaths than it saved from dying to the disease. Worth it?
Brayden Walker
>why are less people getting sick now that everyone has clean water and no more open sewers
Samuel Roberts
>t big-pharma invested joo trolling fuck you.
Michael Rogers
What is MSG and why would injecting it into the grey matter of an infant cause swelling? Fuck you.
Asher Clark
>that website >no names >clearly states it's the editors opinion >we are going to raise our kids to stay out of prison and avoid heroin and prostitutes Holy shit don't ever use that site again. Uninstall Jow Forums. >Pertussis >no sauce I'll bite. So something we can fight against without vaccines? Try using that same logic with Hep or polio.