Childfree

> only 21
Opinion discarded.

You are not even a fully formed human yet. Humans definitely aren't fully formed at 16, and thanks to our lack of a real coming of age ritual in modern society, you're still a child at 21. What you think doesn't even matter.

Raise the voting age to 25 when?

Try not to forget to off yourself when you get too old and worthless.

>ancientfag coping

He won't need to, his government-assigned Puerto Rican caretaker will just unplug him.

I'm 26

You’ll die alone and forgotten

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I said the same shit in my 20s.

Now im almost 40 and am kinda sad that i didn't. Having a son would have been cool. Being a crazy gun dad for a daughter would have been fun too, I'd have loved to scare the boyfriends.

It sucks. Reconsider.

>Im only 21
lol

because people change their mind later once they see all their friends and family having kids and when they realize pets are not the same

my gf used to swear she never wanted kids at 20-21(now 24) and tried to sell almost all her eggs at one point but was turned away, now shes pregnant with my second kid

I'm working to build an asset base so I can avoid making your mistake. Sometimes I get overwhelmed with the blackpill though. Can you give me advice on how to trudge through it?

Of course, we won't be able to afford gibs forever.

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All honesty, necessity is the mother of invention. The presence of the kid is the drive to create the asset base.

Without motivation, you'll fall short. I have. If i had a kid of my own, i know i would be doing better because i would need to.

I just feel empty because i didn't have a kid to program with my values and interests and stuff. Would have been nice to have something look up to me over these last 20 or so years.

The human brain doesn't finish developing until around 25.its science.

It's true that having children isn't economical for first worlders under the current system. Both parents have to work full time just to scrape a living, and stay at home mothers are always portrayed as the worst filth in Jewish media. There's barely enough time for 1 child let alone 4. Marriages favor the woman in all disputes including divorce, giving them overwhelming power in relationships. People are isolated from each other and with no community, getting a relationship is an uphill battle. White men are portrayed as pathetic scum and interracial relationships are relentlessly propagandized by the kikes. But, if you let the kikes win and you stay a manchild for the rest of your life, you won't realize how hollow and empty your life is until it's too late to change anything.

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Which is why you should wait until then to do drugs. You still get drugs but aren't a blithering retard.

Jesuschrist the white race is fucked

>There's barely enough time for 1 child let alone 4.
Protip from a father of 4: things get a whole lot easier once kid #1 gets big enough to change diapers and do other chores.

>getting a relationship is an uphill battle
No it fucking isn't you incel. It's only an uphill battle of you're an unlikable autist.

I'm an unlikable autist too, but i found me a girl that has similar autism and we are super happy and only marginally fighty.

If you're having problems, you are aiming out of your league. Aim lower, since it sounds like you're in the "practice girl" tier anyway.

This. All day this.

>tfw Gf larps as a little girl at 29 because infertile
>tfw I am a sperm donor for desparate women hitting the wall
I have 3 confirmed children so far. It's the best I can do.

>No it fucking isn't you incel. It's only an uphill battle of you're an unlikable autist.
This, its pretty easy to get into a relationship, keeping one long term is the harder part. Especially now that people expect instant gratification due to social media and particularly if you date younger girls.

>keeping one long term
That's easy too. Shake the toaster. Tell her/him everything, even embarrassing shit. If they really like you, they stay. Simple. Show them your worst and they'll respect you for it. That's how you keep them.

I realized when I was a kid that I didn't want to have kids. 40 now and I still don't want them. Nor does my wife. I have a nephew that's cool and I'm perfectly happy being a kickass uncle.
Keep your avenues open user. At 21 you don't know shit about anything. However, if your mind doesn't change don't feel bad about it. Just live a good life doing good things.

You're missing out on one of life's greatest pleasures and indeed, your purpose - to continue the bloodline that your ancestors fought to preserve.

If you are so weak that you wish to have no future, fine with me. You simply eliminate your bad code from the gene pool.

I want kids with the half black girl I’m dating but she doesn’t what do?

SAGE

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Children don't stay children forever
They eventually grow up and stop being annoying

Your friends will go old and die, some of them will move away or will cut ties with you, but your children will be there for you forever.

Not correct. Most conservatives have a lot of children.

>Raise the voting age to 25 when?
Not soon enough.

Sort of had the opposite experience here, i had my first kid as an accident after briefly dating a woman who claimed she was infertile, then i ended up with a daughter which that ex gave me custody of.
>ell her/him everything, even embarrassing shit. If they really like you, they stay. Simple. Show them your worst and they'll respect you for it. That's how you keep them.
I know that but its kind of hard to find people who can relate to my experiences, i had a extremely fucked up childhood. My early adulthood wasn't much better, i've been homeless before including before i was 18, ive also had times when i made lots of money in a short time, ive been through a few very crazy relationships that make normal ones now seem mundane. In general i find it hard to relate to a lot of normies/women and the ones that can relate tend to be pretty fucked up in the head whereas desu i need someone myself that stabilizes me, also im 27 and tend to date 19-23yo women which may have contributed some. Hopefully though things with the current gf turn out well, shes 24 and ive been with her 7months and i just found out shes almost 2months pregnant, i might marry her if it goes right but her mood changes do make me concerned.

The difference between zero kids and one kid is quite a large difference. But the difference between one and three kids is almost unnoticeable.

>virtually no return on investment
>He says, in reference to children
Are you even human?

Sorry to hear of your troubles. I never expected it, but It's interesting to have a double life.

When I was a kid I didn’t want to have children or settle either.... then you get old and realize that vidya, alcohol, and one nighters get old.... so you invest yourself in the next generation.

And apparently 4+ kids are actually less stressful than 3 or fewer kids.

Homo economicus will die, no worries.

>made the decision

No, you were SOLD the idea

Placebo birth control

Half black girls are acceptable to breed IMO

It's a good thing you liberals aren't breeding anymore, please, keep spending your money on Legos and hoppy craft beer, that's MUCH more fulfilling than a legacy, amirite?

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I had two. I also had a coke problem in the 80s. I let one of my parents raise them. I got clean in a few years but the bond was broken. They dont see me as a parent. Today is my Birthday and not even a text. I will die alone in a nursing home. What it is like not having kids.

Grow the fuck up.

I don't plan on having children, but I'm young enough for that to change. I'd prefer adoption since I can ensure gender and avoid sex

You have no future stake in humanity and should not be allowed to vote.

>i only think of myself because I can't into meaning of life
>Whats wrong with that

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Someone has claimed to found meaning in life, yet is only able to post wojack 4 panels to refute somebody claiming it has none. Interesting

honestly, i don't see anything wrong with not wanting children.

Less responsibilities, way more time for yourself, more money to spend on yourself. Kids are a pain in the arse.

>only real objective of any specie
>let's not do it
ok
wouldn't want to have an edgy faggot reproduce anyway

The current structure of our society is openly hostile to creating families. We could live in peace, prosperity and happiness, but we lost our vision and are falling/fallen as a society. Standing by as we allow the forces of evil to rein over our consciousness. Hedonism, and an unwillingness to accept God has led us astray. So what are we to do?

What makes it an objective?

Nothing is wrong. Thank you for choosing to remove your genes from the gene pool. All those who volunteered for sterilization shall be treated preferentially on the day of the rope.

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>yes goyim don’t have any children. Our forced immigration policies will require your future children’s food for our influx of 3rd world doctors and engineers

You would think that "Hey, I don't need kids, because without them I will have more money, time and shit" but the issue is, that you are failing your biological job.
Namely: You don't spread your genes. If you don't do it you will be erased from the gene pool and disappear forever.
If there is such thing as a soul, part of it will get transmitted to your offsprings, so (You) keep existing through your children. If you have none, (You) will eternaly be erased from the history of mankind and (You) will cease to exist.
Which means in simple term: If you have no children, there will be no (You)'s

The desire to be more of one's self. We love ourselves so much, we want more of us.

You know what the coolest part of not having children is? When you are old you will be alone and when you die know one will remember your name and your line will stop existing, and the entire biological purpose of life will have been failed, by you. But hey, you can go to bars and stuff.

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At sixteen realized kids ABC....At sixteen you should realize you ARE a kid lol

Women make the decks not to have children with me every time they look at me

I have a brother, and many people with children get shoved in a nursing home anyway. I'll just put myself in one or shoot myself

As a parent, I can tell you that having children is the best thing you can do for yourself.

Nothing will more improve your life. You aren't wrong about the negative impacts on your life, but they are trifles compared to the benefits.

Maybe hard time make hard men. Probably some truth to that, but the most important benefit you will receive is loving someone. It's very hard to love ourselves, because we know our flaws.
You will love your children with the intensity of a thousand suns, and this will make you a better man. Better than you ever thought you could be. Better than you deserve.

When I am dead why should I care about my legacy? Furthermore, why do I need children to create a legacy? Why do you see the purpose of life to be its own propagation?

Meh I have 2 cats and probably feel at least 15% of what you feel for your kid and that's enough for me

I never wanted kids. My wife always has. After achieving my wildest “expensive possession” dreams, I realized it’s empty. Sure you can get something more expensive, but it’s empty there too. Driving around in cars that cost as much as people’s houses wears off fast.

Kids would bring back meaning and allow me to teach and nurture. Holidays would feel like holidays again.

I’m 30, and I may never be able to have kids. Found that out recently. :(

Well I made a bunch of kids with a couple women(I support them all), so I'll be alright. Also, I'll die before I become a burden to my spawn.

First (((media))) advertisement in a loooong time that shows a white couple, I wonder what the headline will be...

Good, don't have kids.

One day, having kids is all that's going to matter. Don't diminish the value of mine.

Your kid would probably just develop a drug addiction with your money

Gay

I hope you have some kinda trust for your kids That sounds like a mess

Because it's the urge of all life. What else do you have to do? In all seriousness, the joy of children is not replaceable or immutable by anything. There is something so fundamentally instinctual about it, I've never done or experienced anything that brought me the same peace. I didn't know what loving someone else really was until I held my daughter. I've got another on the way, looking forward to meeting him. And sure, you be dead, but you'll die with some measure of peace. You should go hang out in a nursing home sometime, look in the eyes of those who had kids vs those who didn't. It's chilling. But whatever, do what you want.

I've done it all, drank and fought and fucked as much as any man could want, been all over, done a ton of cool shit. End of the day, money, pussy, pleasure....It's all empty really.

procreation is a part of the meaning of life. life would be meaningless if we were to not procreate, as life would cease to exist

“Society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.”
But go ahead with your strawman

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Trust? I support them all. I'm with my wife. They are all taken care of.

>They are annoying, a MASSIVE burden, expensive and offer virtually no return on investment

you just described yourself, and anyway... if you are not white or a liberal ... you should not reproduce

obvious slide thread

Please, don't have children. There's already enough self centered, non-future planning, instant gratification retards having kids everywhere else
No need to contribute, homo.

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You feel nothing of what I describe. I have raised three sons. Before I was a pimp, dealer, and hedonist.

It is impossible for you to even conceive of the actual change holding your baby makes in you. You can only observe after the fact that none of the BS you cared about before matters at all. You will do anything to be a good parent - if you're a good person.

If you're a scumbag, it won't work. Either way, you do you. My sons will make sure the rest of my days are comfortable.

Good luck with anything short of blood family to take care of you in the coming apocalypse.

Im 38. Zero regrets. Kids are a terrible idea. All my peers are jealous of my spare resources and freedom. Really, it's about how much extra time you get to spend on your hobbies and projects.

But that's just me, I guess.

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People don't hate you because you're choosing not to have kids, they hate you because you're being a smug, obnoxious faggot about it.

Same, I swung, used to be a hedonist. I fucked and fought my friends(for fun), lived through things that would kill most men, got fucked up, made money. Holding my first changed my life. When she breathed her first breath after I pulled her out, I was hit with chest sobs. Didn't know what love was. Didn't have a reason to be selfless really, but now I have a bunch of reasons.

Based Pirate.

Thanks user

Yeah money....Wow. if your peers are jealous of you that speaks volumes about them. You have nothing I want, and sure I'm just some internet guy, but I can honestly say I know people like you, and you have NOTHING you could bribe me or tempt me with.

Different value systems. It's not bad, but plenty of people don't care about what you do, and vice versa

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>You’ll die alone and forgotten

Silly. It's not like you're taking people with you into death, nor will you be remembered more than a generation or two out. Your genetics will be thoroughly diluted after a few generations, as well.

Ok Mr have children. Just remember you are on a cartoon image board before getting so serious. PS you prob wont have kids and not by your own volition either.

I think you're making the right decision. For whatever reason, it seems that nature has selected you as an evolutionary dead end. It's urging you not to procreate and transmit your genes to a future generation, and I suspect humanity will be improved by this outcome.

Such cope.

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>If you are so weak that you wish to have no future, fine with me. You simply eliminate your bad code from the gene pool.

It's always the virgins who think like this.

Thanks user

>It's urging you not to procreate and transmit your genes to a future generation, and I suspect humanity will be improved by this outcome.

Lol, by this logic, those who reproduce the most are doing the world a favor, because nature has selected them to carry the genetic torch. Absolute stupidity.