Just a question, is it normal to be 19 and to never have had a girlfriend...

Just a question, is it normal to be 19 and to never have had a girlfriend. I seriously don't wanna go the incel route in my playthrough. I'm not fat, I'm not ugly.

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Im a lvl 25 virgin. Gid gud bub.

I lost mine at 19 and didn't date seriously til late into 18.
You've got time.

It's not even about sex. I genuinely want a romantic partner more than sex.

>I'm not fat, I'm not ugly.
Then quit being a sperg holy shit.
See that's what I'm talking about.

Yes, it is. It seems really crazy to you because you can't see beyond the present.

Your fatness and ugliness has very little to do with why you don't have a girlfriend. Your temerity and fear of failure/rejection has EVERYTHING to do with it. Any other reason you can think of is basically a rationalization that you tell yourself to make it seem like it's not your fault or that you have no control over the situation.

Here is a simple 5-step process that is guaranteed to put you on the right path.

1. Get over yourself and realize that you are more critical of and pay more attention to yourself than anyone else will. It is not the end of the world if you sound awkward or look/sound silly every once in a while - no one has the time or attention span to focus on and remember that forever other than literal bullies.

2. Get comfortable with talking to other people. That includes friends and strangers.

3. BEFRIEND girls. FRIENDS. The only way to form healthy relationships with the opposite sex is to first come to understand that they are also humans with needs, wants, faults, and ideas. The best way to do that is to actually make an effort to be friends. This will be difficult at first because your horniness will make you infatuated with any female who pays attention to you if they are even remotely attractive in any way. Chase and pine over a few if you must, but absolutely have at least a few who are FRIENDS ONLY that you force yourself not to pursue or lust over.

This is a crucial step. Guys who fail or do poorly at this stage end up forming stilted views of the world where they believe all sorts of weird shit about women (i.e. they exist solely for breeding or are some sort of evil harpies).

What's wrong with my reply lol?

4. Make your feelings known to the girls you are attracted to. Doesn't always have to be a direct approach - make efforts to talk to them more about common interests and to hang out 1 on 1. If they enjoy your company, do stuff that couples or people who date might (1 on 1 movies, eating out, park). Make it plain as soon as you can that you see them as a romantic prospect. If rejected, that's it, end of story. Do not try again, do not "wait for her to be ready", do not pine for her, don't do any of that shit. Pretend like nothing at all happened and stop all romantic overtures, but remain friendly and courteous. If she changes her mind, she'll do it on her own and approach you - NOTHING you do will change that despite what you see on TV, in anime and in movies. Move on, do your own shit, start thinking about other girls.

5. Do things you might normally feel uncomfortable or unsure of, even if just to try it out. Doesn't matter if you suck, no one really cares because no one is awesome at everything. Go do indoor bouldering, go try running, go bowling, go do an escape room, do whatever with friends. Go to weddings, talk to people. If you see an opportunity, take it. Chat someone up, make them laugh, add them on social media, DO NOT OVERTHINK THINGS.

I am able to hold conversations and I did realize that all the overthinking while talking with someone is in my head. It's still there but I realized that it doesn't show.

I do have some female friends, not really that close but then again, I wouldn't say my male friends are even really that close.
I think befriending people of the opposite gender isn't a problem.

I was scammed of 2 more steps

Spoke too soon, there are the 2 extra steps.

4. this is what I struggle with, I can't move past friends. It's not that I get friendzoned it's just that I don't know how to advance. Like, how do you invite someone to hang out 1 on 1 without spilling the beans and revealing you like her?

5.
>Do whatever with friends.
I can't, they all already have their friend circles which I'm not a part of. We're only together at school or after it a bit.

It absolutely 100% normal, kids your age -all over the world- are having less sex and relationships than previous generations.

theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/

Pretty much this.

Also don't be picky if you can't afford to.

There are so many posts and threads on this board that are

>wow guys why is it so hard to get a gf I just want a girl who is blonde-haired blue-eyed and is not a basic thot, and she needs to be smart but she can't be into things like sociology or women's studies, and she has to be into video games but she can't be a gamer girl, and she can't have male friends, and she can't have tattoos, and she can't have colored hair, and she has to be into subbed anime not dubbed anime and also she can't be into cosplay, and she has to be a pristine virgin but she also has to be horny all the time but just for me, and she has to want kids but only boys no girls, and and and, why is it so difficult why this extremely specific girl despite myself not being especially interesting or attractive or even generally pleasing as a person

Not saying that everyone who is single and a virgin is the typical Jow Forums frogposting autistic hateful retard, but it certainly does happen.

Based on that article, the majority of the latest generation is still having a fair amount of sex
>People now in their early 20s are two and a half times as likely to be abstinent as Gen Xers were at that age; 15 percent report having had no sex since they reached adulthood.
Sure it’s less than the previous generation, but those numbers mean that at least 85% of people over 18 are not virgins, which is still a large majority.

My standards aren't high. I want someone who's genuinely nice and not only to people they like. Looks aren't all that important, just, you know, not really ugly or fat. Interests can be as same or as different as possible both have benefits ( Same - you enjoy similar stuff and both of you have a similar mindset on things, Different - you explore new things that the other person likes and you teach each other a lot)

>she can't be into cosplay
My only problem with that is that they're not really the characters that they pretend to be.

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I'm reading it right now.

It's probably different for men and women though. There are more male than female virgins now. Because r9k was at least a little bit right.
But yeah, it's still unusual to be a virgin for too long and that's going to be a red flag for most girls.

don't see what's wrong with his saying he wants a relationship... women out here expecting men to carry on with the world on their backs with nothing in the way of intimacy to keep them going I don't understand this mentality. Talk about being a sperg...

It's a classic retard, don't bother.

>There are more male than female virgins now.
Was that in the article? Because that seems like some Jow Forums tier snake oil

same story here

>but those numbers mean that at least 85% of people over 18 are not virgins,

It's not like when you become 18 and 1 day old you suddenly start to rot from the inside out dude. I had sex at 18 and I was the first guy in my group of friends to do so. I had sex with girls who were still virgins when they were 19-20. Also

>From 1991 to 2017, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Youth Risk Behavior Survey finds, the percentage of high-school students who’d had intercourse dropped from 54 to 40 percent.

>There are more male than female virgins now. Because r9k was at least a little bit right.

Don't believe r9k bullshit

from another article
> between the ages of 15 and 19, 42 percent of women and 44 percent of men reported having sex, relative to a significantly higher 51 percent of women and 60 percent of men in 1988

>that's going to be a red flag for most girls.

It's only a red flag if you actually tell them that you're a virgin, and why would you

it sounds exactly like the r9k/incel 20-80 propaganda

>It's only a red flag if you actually tell them that you're a virgin, and why would you
It's probably not too hard to guess though. Especially if you're not very attractive.

My brother's 29 and hasn't ever even kissed anyone lmao. You're fine dude. Don't rush stuff like this.

I would say it's normal

I'm not especially attractive and my first time having sex the girl had no idea it was my first time.

On the other hand, years later after I had already been with a bunch of girls, I managed to have sex so bad that to the girl it likely seemed like it was my first time ever even kissing someone.

Well 29 is for sure late

Just one more year until wizardry.

At what age does it become abnormal?

Not him, but it depends on the culture, like in Japan there's something like 40% of all adults over the age of 30 who are still virgins.

Late 20s is when it's starting to manifest as a major problem and really a symptom of other emotional/metal afflictions, and not just you being a late bloomer

> "I'm not fat"
> "I'm not ugly"
Keep telling yourself that op

My BMI is 17 and I was openly told a few times that I was not bad looking ( and no, not by relatives ). When did it become wrong to not self deprecate?

>is it normal to be 19 and to never have had a girlfriend
No. Statistically people lose their virginity at 17. You're abnormal. Either turn to prostitutes or come to terms with your life long loneliness.

>Your temerity and fear of failure/rejection has EVERYTHING to do with it
Absolute crap. If a woman likes you then she'll make it clear. You even say it yourself. If putting yourself out there doesn't work then there's nothing you can do.

Average age of virginity loss is still 17 in the latest generation. That statistic doesn't change that he's abnormal.

The trick is to convince your subconscious that they're just friends. Worst case scenario, you just ask them out right away.

This is why I still like Jow Forums after all these years. Most of the time it's shit but sometimes you get some good insightful posts.

But I can't trick them. The first thing I would think of if a girl asks me out would be that she likes me. And that's me, it's probably even more natural for girls to think that way.

>Statistically people lose their virginity at 17
>Average age of virginity loss is still 17 in the latest generation.

Did you read this off of a jpeg you found in a thread on r9k

>From 1991 to 2017, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Youth Risk Behavior Survey finds, the percentage of high-school students who’d had intercourse dropped from 54 to 40 percent.

>2 years off of the average is abnormal
"average" doesn't mean that most people lose it at 17 you retard

I'm sorry, I feel bad about posting that. You're probably a fine person and just nervous around others. I take back what I said.

Worst bait I've ever seen. Jesus you're not even worth being called a troll

Thank you

Didn't have a gf until I was 21.

I didn't like people much in general and preferred to be myself, was content with staying alone for forever

Then I just accidentally met a girl I honestly enjoyed spending time with.

I meant tricking yourself. Either way, why can't you just ask her out instead of trying some hanging out stuff. You're pretty much right, I don't see 2 people of the opposite sex casually hanging out as friends unless there is no possible tension between them. It's more realistic to try and get to know girls closer during an activity or while out with other friends.

I'm sorry, I feel bad about posting that. You're probably a fine person and just nervous around others. I take back what I said.

You're fine, remember the golden rule; if you make a shitload of cash, they will come.

I've wrorked minimum wage all my life with like no savings at all and was even a NEET at one point and still got laid, money has nothing to do with it.

I just want to say that I like your picture OP

I just want to say that I agree with this reply

Chad detected.

>I want someone who's genuinely nice and not only to people they like.
I have yet to meet a girl like this. Don't get me wrong, most of them are able to be really kind and all, but the day you decide to live together, you'll realize most are them are bipolar and can't keep their shit straight. They'll either cheat on you because you have to do a little overwork, or they'll just go full psychobitch without any good reason, because fuck sanity right ?
So be careful about what you really want, finding a flawless gem is rather unlikely.

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This meme again

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>BEFRIEND girls.
Literally how?

Stop watching porn 100%. Full stop.

And that is gonna get me a girlfriend.. how? Does that include hentai or just 3D porn?

This is a very insightful post, it's worthy of a screencap.