Why is getting a gf or getting laid such a difficult task for guys that even drives some of them to suicide or...

I was able to grope her and finger her.

Bump

Haven't you been btfo enough for the day already?

Not OP, just like the thread.

stop samefagging nigger

Men are weak.

And what are women?

Weaker

>t. chubby chasers
pic-related is you.

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But strong enough to only kill one person at a time when they're rejected.

I dont know. I wish someone could tell me the answer.

I'm a normal guy. I'm decently physically attractive. I dress well. I have an active social life at college. Girls like me as a friend. But I can't get a date for the life of me. Absolutely no women show even a modicum of interest in me as a potential partner.

I don't want to commit mass shootings, I'm not a psycho. But I am horribly depressed 90% of the time because I'm terrified of being an incel forever. I've done everything and nothing works. I just wish someone could tell me what I'm doing wrong. What is the secret? What is the magic quality that every other guy has that I don't?

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Pretty sure they are just girls who refuse to admit that they don't have it easier. I mean, even the attractive guys have to put in some effort at least compared to girls.

not Jow Forums

that they have it easier*

Yes, it is, you fucking retard.
This thread sums up 90% of Jow Forums, fuck off.

>Absolutely no women show even a modicum of interest in me as a potential partner.
That's pretty much any averae guy out there. You're in college now, you should know that you're in the role of making the first moves

What's the point of making a first move if no girls are interested in me? How can i convince a girl to be interested in me if she isn't already?

It's called not being a boring and legitimate idiot.

Because you're a boring, entitled cunt? Just hearing you whine about your shit life is almost enough to tip me over the edge. As for your entitlement, "I'm decently physically attractive. I dress well. I have an active social life at college." getting a girl isnt some fucking tick-box where if you meet some magic requirements then you automatically get a girl. Doesn't work like that champ.

Okay, can you put that into words that actually form tangible advice that I can follow?

men need to just exist too you know. a lot of single men, or at least ones that worry and complain about it (nothing wrong on them for that, theyre just worried) dont really get out or have areas whrre they can comfortably meet women. from a guy who goes out just a little bit, not even a lot, and alone, i can totally see some girls where theres clearly something going on, and if i spoke up, things could happen, and i can totally see it happening with yall too. love is natural you know.

my problem is ive got no experience and a weird way of thinking for relationships (not that they owe me, more that i owe them, if that makes sense) that i need to fix. i get thats uncomfy in relationships. but to people here, this thing is natural and easier than you think, its just thought way too much about, to the point of overthinking

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your entire outlook is the problem, You cant fucking convince anyone to like you, it's not a fucking logical puzzle "if I do this and this" then "the outcome is this" if you want girls to like you, treat them like people, not as something to hunt and put your dick in. Basically dont be a social retard

I'm not entitled, I'm just exhausted. All my friends are dating, and if they're not dating they're having casual sex. I am literally the only one in my social circle who is perpetually single, and on top of that I'm an incel who has never been on a date. No one can tell me what I'm doing wrong.

>getting a girl isnt some fucking tick-box where if you meet some magic requirements then you automatically get a girl. Doesn't work like that champ.

Then what is it? What do I have to do? Why does it feel like for me and me only, getting a date is THE most impossible thing in the world, but for everyone else I know its one of the easiest and most simple?

Have you asked your friends for help

>"the outcome is this" if you want girls to like you, treat them like people, not as something to hunt and put your dick in. Basically dont be a social retard

Okay, then please explain how I am able to form friendships with women, but no women show any indication of wanting to date me.

Recently I even got desperate enough to ask a girl friend for advice on this matter (in a calm and honest manner) and she genuinely couldn't figure out why I have it so bad with women. Apparently I'm "a funny guy, a catch", but I can't get a date no matter how hard I try

You are likely unbearably uninteresting.

Not likely, since I can form friendships easily and have been described by many friends as "funny", "charming", even "the life of the party"

I know its hard to believe but i basically live a fulfilling and normal life in every way, except im an incel

i wouldnt keep calling yourself an incel. incels feel that women owe them. you dont seem like that to me. you just seem like youre bad at making relationships, which is common and can 100% be fixed

heres a question for you to possibly see what to fix relationship wise. If a woman you liked did say yes to a relationship, then what? what would you do? how would you feel about it?

Well i am involuntarily celibate. I am celibate against my wishes. So, whether i like it or not, i am an incel. I didnt choose this fate, it was thrust upon me

>If a woman you liked did say yes to a relationship, then what? what would you do? how would you feel about it?

I honestly dont know. The idea of being in a relationships seems so otherworldly to me, its something I cant even begin to comprehend. I have lived my whole adult life thinking that "me" and "relationships/sex" are two things that just do not co-exist. It's something that only exists in my fantasies. Even the idea of me going on a date with a girl is totally unimaginable, I can't even comprehend it.

You are entitled, you've literally made a small list of why girls should like you. That's basically your entire problem. But hey, act like you haven't, it's no skin of my nose.

You say you can form relationships with women, but obviously you can't. Clearly something about you comes across as a big no for a women to consider you as a sexual partner. As for asking a woman... You really expected her to give you a useful answer? Again, you're treating it like a logical problem, but it's not - it's all emotional with women.

I'm sorry if this all comes across as mean and harsh but it's the truth. I've got an old friend from uni who's pretty much in the same position as you. I've had pretty much this same conversation before. He's a good guy, but he puts women on this pedestal and treats them like his entire self-worth is based women finding him attractive enough to date. It's not! But that's his internal failing and by the sounds of it, if you're getting depressed about it, yours too.

Sounds like you've got a touch of the Aspergers or some other social impairment. Because men who genuinely are funny, charming and "the life of the party" are absolutely drowning in pussy. The fact you're not means either your friends are lying to you (probable, to save your feelings) or you're some kind of sheldon cooper type who thinks he's amazing but is actually a detestable, social-retard

>you've literally made a small list of why girls should like you

No, I was just pre-empting the usual bullshit questions like "bro do you even shower", "do you even go outside", "are you fat". People assume that men who can't get dates must have some glaringly obvious flaws or don't take proper care of themselves. I was just trying to state that, in fact, I DO take proper care of myself, I DO go outside and live a normal and fulfilling life, yet for some reason I still can't get even one date.

It just doesn't make sense to me. I know guys who have all manner of mental issues, autism, aren't very clean, lazy, super shy, or whatever else, and yet they can still get dates just fine whereas I can't get a girl to even glance in my direction in a sexual manner.

>he puts women on this pedestal and treats them like his entire self-worth is based women finding him attractive enough to date. It's not

Okay, but please can you just try to imagine for one second how it feels to have never been on a date, never kissed a girl, never even come close to physical intimacy or relationships. And, meanwhile, every one of my friends, no matter how low their self-esteem is or how weird they may be, can still get at least one date. I have a friend who is relentlessly depressed, at times even suicidal, and believes he is ugly, can barely even hold a conversation with someone he doesn't already know, and yet he's had sex with 3 girls and been in a relationship. At some point I have to just beg the world for answers, "what on earth am I doing wrong?"

There is a term 'Love shy' that describes people who never try. That probably describes most people who think they are 'incels'. I hate to label myself like this but I guess I am 'Love Shy' I've haven't asked a girl out for a decade.
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It's supposed to be hard. For a lot of animal species, breeding is so hard that they literally die in the attempt. This is to ensure the best genes get passed on to the next generation. It's actually much easier than it should be these days. Just get out there and give it a try.

>For a lot of animal species, breeding is so hard that they literally die in the attempt.
But aren't humans supposed to be above animals? Shouldn't women then go for the intelligent guys in order for best genes to pass on instead of getting their cunts wet for criminals in prison who ruin society?

thats why you gotta read up and practice on it! dont just give up. everyone has been in the same boat as you, but they got better, either for themselves, or for the person they like.

and with how you say you have no idea how a relationship works, maybe youre blurring the line between actual friends and romantic partners. thats common too to the inexperienced. you expect signs that may in reality be signs of friendship instead of signs of a romantic relationship, and vice versa. read up on it, youll be better at it then me if you put your mind to it. if you can overthink this much into a problem, think of whatelse you can realize if you put that thinking into learning something

Well you see even though society has evolved past our animal instincts, we haven't caught up yet.

If you don’t have a big dick, have a fat stack of cash, your pic related.

So no one is going to help this guy after insulting him the entire thread? Kek, Jow Forums really is normie central.

>Kek
>normie

yeah how about you go back to r9k if you're going to complain that the advice board isn't full of frogposters that are shitposting all over themselves

He also keeps making the same thread all the time

>I can't get a girlfriend even though I haven't asked any girl out, what is going wrong here

>How is that fair,
It isn't. What about life on this planet has lead you at all to believe that existing as an animal in this cold, unforgiving universe is supposed to be fucking fair? This kind of drivel drives me bat shit. Imagine being born with all of your limbs and no serious diseases, surviving past the age of 14, having enough disposable income for food, shelter, electronics and an internet connection and complaining about how life isn't fair? What a joke you are. Grow up, dude.

>So no one is going to help this guy after insulting him the entire thread?
He didn't come for advice. He came for a hugbox.

>He didn't come for advice. He came for a hugbox.
This is a copout. Just admit you have no advice or don't post at all.

I fucked a married woman. Y'all need to play harder.

>This is a copout
Is it? Or is it just the same common sense conclusion that nearly every reasonable person comes to when they specifically decide to frequent a corner of the internet infamous for being a giant, shitty echo chamber?

>Just admit you have no advice or don't post at all.
My advice is for him to toss his computer into a river and never come back to this god forsaken place again.

The solution will be robotic gfs, but we'll have to wait another 15-20 years.

Holy fucking reddit cringe. He’s venting his frustration on a fucking image board and you make the leap that he’s like that all the time. Redditors like yourself just repeat lines without even taking two seconds to think. Kill yourself. NOW.

They care about themselves first and foremost. I got the most action when I gave the air of a confident, strong, and funny man, who loves himself but wouldn’t mind having someone else around to share a good time with. Yes, being handsome gives you a huge leg up. But the biggest turn off for women of all is desperation. If you’re a comfortable man, confident in your worth, women will see that.

A lot of men fail to get tail because they’re ironically worried about not getting tail. The best thing you can do is literally just not look desperate, it raises your success by like 70%

I love this dichotomy
>I won't date fat girls!
>But girls should date every sadboi that propositions them!

It's amazing because the hypocrisy is either willing and knowing and thus invalidating the original point, or it's unknowing and those people are genuinely too dull to see why they're hypocrites and why people swerve on them-- both platonically and romantically.

Because 90% of women think that they deserve only the top 10% of men. Therefore, 90% of men are left to hang out with only about 10% of women. Some of those 10% are still choosy, and may only want to be around the top 25% of guys. Or the top 50% of guys. Half the men out there are basically left with no one.

Women who rate at least a 3/10 are held on a pedestal like goddesses. Men that don't rate at least 7/10 are usually treated like trash. If you don't rate at least a 4/10, you're treated like a potential rapist by default.

Full disclosure, I feel like I probably rate about a 6/10, and for most of my adult life, I was led on by many girls and friendzoned a lot. Got cheated on one time (found out after the breakup), led on for months by a chick until her sister, a friend of mine, got mad at her for it and told me she was screwing with me. Had one girl date me while she biding her time for another guy. Had a woman basically use me as a shoulder to cry on with an occasional sex session, but led me on a lot too. Eventually I gained some confidence and stopped giving a damn about women, and that's when I got the first of three serious GFs, then met my wife.

Yeah, women are mostly garbage.

The solution is for men to stop doing anything for women. If a woman is not your wife, mother or daughter, stop giving a shit about them and never, ever do anything for them ever again. Eventually women will learn that yes, they do need men.

A faggot bugman and a whale who always needs to speak to the manager.

>it's obvious you've already made up your mind on the matter
you are just as much of an obstinate fool as OP is t.b.h.

People are going crazy because of uncontrolled corporate capitalism and a broken mental health system. Read Dying For A Paycheck and Bullshit Jobs, at a minimum. Pointing the finger at immigrants, women, straight people, whites, blacks, whoever, is a deliberate distraction from the same shareholders and boardroom sociopaths that pay off the government to pass laws in their favor. They do not care how many people die, as long as nobody is looking in their direction. The only difference between men and women in terms of violence is that when something goes wrong, young men are generally encouraged to see themselves as heroes in a corrupt world, while young women are encouraged to blame themselves.

Or hes genuinely not lying.

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The OP clearly has terminal autism and you can't really advise that away

Fuck you're talm about, nigga? I said a few posts below that I had a fat gf who I didn't even get to fuck, you fucking illiterate retard. And no, I really shouldn't have settled for a fatty since I've been fit my whole life.

When you don't have a girlfriend you can jerk off to porn and probably won't care about not having a girlfriend for a while. When you do have a girlfriend you can get your nut off and then afterwards you have some annoying cunt in your room and you want to be alone but she's there asking you to cuddle and go out with her and shit. Virgins aren't missing out on anything and they have no idea. Now go jerk off so you'll stop caring about not getting laid.

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>breaking out Schopenhauer re: women

Could you possibly be any more pretentious?

>tfw schizoid
It is odd how I have to actively think about the subject of being khhv to be sad, otherwise nothing, absolutely nothing.

Because they won’t actually ask a girl out.

>hurrrrrr literature is pretentious

>relationships are only about sex

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They mostly are. The typical guy gets along better with other guys and has more stuff to talk about with other guys. Guys wouldn't want to genuinely hang out with girls if their subconscious mind wasn't screaming at them to produce offspring.

"Why is getting a gf or getting laid such a difficult task for guys" it's not when i was in uni about 5% of the times(at a few select clubs) i would go out i'd get some drunk slut come up and kissing me all over and whisper in my ear that she wants to fuck me(not really into drunk sluts so i turned them down). getting a gf isn't too hard there's internet dating but i found most girls abit flakey and never got to date 3, i got my gf simply by asking a friend if he would set me up with a girl and he was like what do you want so i said, not too fat not too skinny, wants kids, and wants a serious relationship hey presoe i got a nice gf that i'm still dating and love to pieces.

"drives some of them to suicide or mass-shootings?"
i have a gf i'm getting laid as much as i want, i still getting the disire to kill myself and or other from time to time, so the motive part isn't the issue maybe it's being a pathetic piece of shit that drives them to it and not to self improvement.

"How is that fair"
who says anyone deserves fair, you've got internet and a device to use it you're in the luckiest 0.1% of living things on this planet, you've got a powerful tool use it to make millions or help get so fit that someone will fuck you

"when all girls have to do in order to get a partner is just exist"
not all girl have it that easy also females find a fewer % of people attracctive than males due the fact that before abortion was readily available, mating producing offspring that requires alot of resources and time to raise whereas men just pump in abit of fluid and can fuck off.

What would be the solution to this problem you see every day?
it's really not a problem, but the suicide and mass shooting is so less guns more readily available ways to commit suicide

Tekashi is hot

who says anyone deserves fair, you've got internet and a device to use it you're in the luckiest 0.1% of living things on this planet
Nice bait
statista.com/topics/779/mobile-internet/
Half of the planet got internet. We're no longer in 1997.

>who says anyone deserves fair, you've got internet and a device to use it you're in the luckiest 0.1% of living things on this planet
statista.com/topics/779/mobile-internet/
Half of the planet got internet. We're no longer in 1997.

life isnt fair, faggot

This board is literally full of faggots that think they don't belong on Jow Forums and are not on the same level with the other Jow Forums users. Also I can't actually believe how the fuck this board exists and how retarded people can be posting HERE for advice. You are asking for advice the same people who are here because they never got any advice on the issue they have.

Literally just talk to more people.
If you don't put yourself out there then why do you expect to meet people?

Fuck off back to tumblr or reddit you sound like a massive faggot

>tells you to not treat life like vending machine where you accumulate points to buy a gf
>"Fuck off back to tumblr or reddit you sound like a massive faggot"

You are never going to grow as a person you massive retard

Life isn't fair. The reality is that men want women way more than women want men. Supply and demand, faggot. Of course that women don't have to try as hard when they're the prize. If you want to get a gf, then fucking try instead of whining about your lack of success.

I'm not OP dipshit and I grow every day. Your original response to him sounded like some white knighty tumblr faggotry blog tho

If you have to try to get a girl you've already lost. If she isn't trying to suck your dick while you put in 0 effort, she's going to leave you for the first chad she sees.

>What would be the solution to this problem you see every day?

Institutionalized monogamy. It worked for thousands of years and could still work now, but the West is probably too far gone at this stage for anything we do to matter. To all women reading this, I hope your sexual liberation was worth the collapse of civilization.

I'm not the guy who you responded to

Literally this. Girls like literally fell into my lap when I didn't really care terribly much about getting them. Throughout high school and middle school I was always super hung up about girls. They seemed like magical beings that I could never hope to touch.

Then in college I was more focused on classes I found interesting and just having fun expressing myself. Freshmen girls in some of my elective classes would awkwardly invite me to "discuss" the class or to hang out because they wanted to spend more time around me but were too embarrassed to ask me out.

As an adult I had girls/women tell me that they get really hot and bothered when they see me doing something I'm good at, presenting to a bunch of people, or just speaking my mind and saying the right things. It was always during points of my life when I was happy with myself and doing my own thing.

Cool story, tell it again

How tall are you, buddy?

>this faggot again
How many times do you need to be told you are unattractive because of your face, and if you were taller you would be even uglier?

>Why is getting a gf or getting laid such a difficult task for guys that even drives some of them to suicide or mass-shootings?
Most likely bullshit by uncreative people wanting to express dislike of mass shooters.

Lower your standards drastically if sex is so important to you.