ITT: we laugh at Brexshiters. They gave themselves a weak pound and worse standard of living, because they bought into a pack of lies.
>muh borders! muh muslims! You aren't forced to take refugees or anyone from outside the EU. EU migrants are net contributors, and vastly superior in intellect to the average Brexshiter.
>muh sovereignty Sovereignty is only good if you're doing something useful with it. There's no reason to think British regulations will be any better than EU ones. If you made its own regulations every export you ever made to the EU would have to be examined by EU officials, which would cause huge delays at all of your ports and harbours.
>make our own trade deals! Your trade deals will be worse, as on your own you have no bargaining power.
>EU military, Turkey entrance, etc. You have a veto you could us at any moment. Such controversial things will always be blocked by somebody. If your own politicians are cucked, someone from East Europe will stop it.
Are Brexit supporters unwilling to reply? Or do they admit the truth of these statements?
Jose Bell
We supported leave for the same reason we supported Donald Trump. Chaos. Most of us want the EU to turn into an Hwite Empire and ethnically cleanse its neighbours.
You won't find a rational argument coming from any of them, it's all moonbeams and muh soveriegnty.
Even the EU budget contribution argument is ridiculous as the treasury makes far more back in taxes from the increased production afforded by frictionless trade with our biggest market than we spend on what is ultimately already a completely reasonable and non-permanent national investment in eastern europe. These fucking morons paid into eastern europe for 20 years and when it starts to look like they're going to start getting up to Western GDPs and contributing themselves Brexiteers hit eject and stop us from seeing any benefit from our investment. Fucking morons is what they are.
Camden Lee
>Most of us want the EU to turn into an Hwite Empire and ethnically cleanse its neighbours. And how is that helped by leaving? You've wasted years shrieking about the evils of Polish people and 'undemocratic' bureaucrats. There are a billion more important causes
>muh soveriegnty Even with this argument alone it would outweigh all the horrors of the EUSR >the treasury makes far more back in taxes from the increased production The state benefiting solely at the cost of the populace. Sounds a lot like communism to me. >These fucking morons paid into eastern europe for 20 years To the cost of which other countries?
Socialism is one hell of a disease.
Jack Ward
Farming subsistence crops vs EU micromanaged crops.
You're not thinking deep enough. Try to recall the state of world politics in mid-2016.
Daniel Ward
>EUSR Yeah, you can't even spell your shitty talking points right, and it betrays your ignorance that you have no idea about how either the EU works or the USSR worked.
>The state benefiting solely at the cost of the populace. Sounds a lot like communism to me. What do you think the taxes got spent on? Did you even see the bus? £350 million a week! Let's spend it on the NHS! Well the treasury is way down and we can't spend it on the NHS any more, COLOUR ME SURPRISED. The state tends to spend on the populace, unlike the reese mogg types who want to fuck it all off to tax havens.
>To the cost of which other countries? You do know the whole plan is to help the eastern euro countries back on to their feet after decades of soviet oppression, right? Once they're producing as much as we do in the west (which they are on track to do) we get even more money to throw around or cut taxes with or whatever the hell we want to do with. I know it's a big ask for a brexiteer to understand economics, but do you understand how little the EU costs us compared to the benefits of growing those markets to export to?
>anything I don't like is Socialism! The EU definitely isn't Socialism mate, you'd have had a better argument if you'd have said some Alex Jones level globalist conspiracy drivel because that's what it's closest to. except the EU's actions are literally making the whole continent richer - including us.
Joshua Cooper
Rees-Mogg is a former Rothschild banker.
Charles Ross
The EU must be allowed to govern us directly we are incapable of leading ourselves Britain's problems were brought about by the weakness of our own people
help us EU
Anthony Watson
Can't believe as a Romanian i'm defending brexit but here it is.Here is why
1.Up until brexit there was no leave claus in the EU 2.You can make bilateral agreements with Poland to get Polish exactly for the jobs that you want. 3.You already have bilateral treaties with AUS,NZ,Japan,US. 4.As long as it gives a middle finger to the France-Germany axis i'm good with it.
Evan Davis
and he's pro-brexit. This country had a fantastic thing going for them the last 20 years and they fucked it all so the bankers can continue to fuck about it tax havens.
December 2012: The European Commission presented an Action Plan for a more effective EU response to tax evasion and avoidance.
January 2013: Brexit referendum announced
We, as a country, have been had.
Carter Kelly
ehhhh >1.Up until brexit there was no leave claus in the EU That's literally what Article 50 is and has been around for yonks. >2.You can make bilateral agreements with Poland to get Polish exactly for the jobs that you want. No we can't, we'd have to go through the EU. >3.You already have bilateral treaties with AUS,NZ,Japan,US. No we don't, they're with the EU. They have to be renegotiated. Japan for example has already said they won't accept even a temporary copy+paste job because they know we're up against the wall. >4.As long as it gives a middle finger to the France-Germany axis i'm good with it. Imagine being this petty
Levi Thompson
>The state benefiting solely at the cost of the populace. Sounds a lot like communism to me. If the state doesn't use its money for the benefit of the population anyway, why do you care if they give money to the EU?
You could say that any disturbance harms the establishment and helps fringe causes, that's the only benefit we'll get from this mess. On the other hand, if non-establishment choices generally are mistakes and make everyone worse off, that could benefit the establishment in the long run. This one seems very stupid, but hopefully they keep economic links and the mistake isn't too costly
Camden Bailey
Everything is going as planned, you'll get your hwite european empire sooner than later.
Show your real flag, Hans, you butthurt kraut faggot Fuck the EU and fuck germany
Liam Butler
>memeflag sage & cage brussels kikes
Easton Baker
>implying the EU will ever do this they're actively trying to make africa and europe a joint continent, once the population boom in africa really gets going we'll be flooded with niggers (even moreso than now, much more), and it will be the fault of treacherous EUfags save Europe not EU fuck you kikes
Jace Rogers
Extrapolate out global overpopulation, climate change, pollution, oil and metals reserves, etc. even a few decades. There's only one solution.
The Germans and the EU aren't your enemy. Russia, America and Israel are keeping MENA unstable so they can flood Europe with refugees. The refugee conventions that were imposed by Russia/America after WWII prevent European nations from turning them back without a trial.
Far-right parties are polling at ~15% and yet 95% of the flow has been cut off, have faith and stop looking only at surface politics. If the EU had the votes it could do literally anything, don't ever forget this.
The EU just abolished the unanimity law,now it's a majoritiy. And seeing how the MAJORITY of EU parliamentaries are French/German and of descent. We are fucked.If the right doesn't get atleast 50% in the EU elections we are heading towards World War 3
Charles Fisher
I voted brexit and have a german passport checkmate Mohamed
Nathaniel Smith
I voted for an independent UK.
Joseph Stewart
The ruling elite of Israel, Russia and America hate the EU, they want Europeans forever divided and at their feet. Notice that Rees-Mogg, Farage, Robinson, Trump and the like are only interested in destroying the EU.
Anglos were holding the entire projection back and only a shitshow like this was going to snap them out of it.
Do you support Irish, Scottish and Welsh nationalism too? Rub your braincels together and realize the shit situation we're all in.
Britain does not have free movement, and all EU countries control their own immigration from outside the EU. You could argue that current policies will lead to, for example, a non-white France which then sends immigrants to other countries, but the North European countries who take in immigrants are already so rich nobody would want to leave for shitty UK.
Parker Nguyen
>The EU just abolished the unanimity law,now it's a majoritiy. Source plz
Jason Young
that tax directive is >The EU Savings Tax Directive ensures that Member States collect data on the savings of non-resident individuals, and automatically provide this data to the tax authorities where those individuals reside. non EU residents and >implying more taxes are a good thing also the rothschilds are pro-EU >investmentweek.co.uk/investment-week/news/2461651/lord-rothschild-a-brexit-would-be-damaging-and-disoderly
>2019 >imagine being pro-EU You stupid cucks are supporting the big businesses, corporations and elites you supposedly oh so hate, Brussels is the current locale for the majority of lobbying whereby corporations suck the dicks of the EU in order to push regulations to fuck their competitors inside and outside the EU It's a place that stifles growth and prevents competition and ultimately fucks the consumers in the wallet. Also as brits we have ZERO say on anything in the EU they go against us every chance they get, look how they fucked over our fishing industry. We live on an island and IMPORT most of our fish, absolutely ridiculous. We aren't allowed by EU law to fish further than 12 miles from our own coast. Remainers are scum and should be thrown into the sea.
>stop propping up a globalist experiment into socialism >stop being only 1 of 8 nations putting in more than they get out >stop Germany controlling us >stop Slavs coming here and making money to send home >stop a customs union that prevents us setting our own external tariffs >stop the ever-encroaching central bank >stop other nations having a vote on what we can or can't do >stop the bloated number of regulations that keeps fucking everything up >fuck Brussels and all the cunt bureaucrats
>implying more taxes are a good thing He's not a cuck user
>You stupid cucks are supporting the big businesses, corporations and elites you supposedly oh so hate Because fucking over your own economy to get back at the corporations is so clever
>Brussels is the current locale for the majority of lobbying whereby corporations suck the dicks of the EU in order to push regulations to fuck their competitors inside and outside the EU And Britain's parliament is controlled by the people?
Let me guess, curved bananas? Big bankers oppose Brexit because Britain was the only force holding back a federated European Superstate. Goldman Sachs cooked Greece's books in an attempt to implode the EU.
Too early to say. Let's see how it played out in 20 years.
Brody Baker
If you watched CNBC and the other talking heads you'd realize that they're all anti-EU and anti-Brexit. All of the big Brexit campaigners in the UK are only interested in destroying the EU, they don't give a shit about importing cheap shoes for poor people.
"The European Parliament (EP) plenary adopted a resolution in Strasbourg on Wednesday calling for the unanimity rule to be abandoned in favor of a qualified majority for the adoption of certain European decisions, such as those on foreign policy or migration, the supporters of the resolution believing that overcoming the opposition of some states will be able to advance more rapidly in the deepening of the European project, EFE agency reports. "
Caleb Young
>You aren't forced to take refugees or anyone from outside the EU. >Invites the entire 3rd world into the EU and gives half of them EU passports
Do you ever actually listen to the shit coming out of your own mouths?
'' We have to go beyond the unanimity rule by using the Lisbon Treaty passage clauses or reforming treaties to avoid blockages in foreign policy, fiscal policy or other areas where it is needed, 'said the initiator of the resolution at a press conference , Spanish Socialist MEP Ramon Jauregui.
He expressed his delight at the fact that the pro-European bloc in the EP obtained a resolution which, he says, highlights the danger of nationalism and the withdrawal of the decision-making powers to the national states against the option of European integration.
"Migration, aging populations, terrorism, security, climate change, Euroscepticism, intolerance and xenophobia are some of the great challenges facing the EU," the Spanish MEP said.
In the matter of migration, the resolution advocates the establishment of a global asylum policy at EU level, estimating that this is a way to combat Eurosceptic speeches.
The same resolution also calls for environmental protection to become an EU priority and also to move towards a union of capital markets and to complete the Economic and Monetary Union.
On the other hand, the EP reiterated on Wednesday that - although the composition of this body will change after the European elections in May - it will reject any presidential candidate of the European Commission that will not be the head of a political group in the EP under the system 'Spitzenkandidat'.
Many European leaders do not like this system, considering that Heads of State or Government (meeting in the European Council) should be free to propose the future Chief of the European Executive. Although according to the treaty the European Council is the one that appoints the head of the European Commission, this decision must be validated by the EP vote.
William Thomas
Nice, sell your sovereignty for fifty pieces of silver...
Luke Jones
The EU was an American pet project to keep us as a singular slave state, the antics you see between the US and EU in the media are pantomime. They both serve the same master.
>Do you support Irish, Scottish and Welsh nationalism too? You forgot English, England =/= UK, and he said UK not each individual country. Being annexed by an American proxy state is not on the level of a 300 year old union.
Lincoln Gutierrez
>muh unelected bureaucrats Brexshitters are so brainless you repeat Alt-Lite slogans mindlessly. The 'elected' parliament of the UK is no better than Brussels, in fact it's likely they want to leave just so they can destroy more workers' rights for their corporate paymasters
Lucas Hall
I want the source in English but I already said this is the only way forward, it's either that or be prepared to spend the rest of your existence at the feet of Russia/America as they become more kiked out by the year.
If that idiot supported sovereignty and nationalism he'd support Welsh, Irish and Scottish nationalism as well. Half of the people here don't even understand that our standard of living relies entirely on vacuuming up third world resources and labour for pennies on the dollar. It cannot continue.
The Brexit vote was the single most meaningful protest against globalism and supranational authority in modern times, and the result of that referendum may well have propelled us into a new timeline in which western civilisation is saved.
Whether or not our government allows us to leave is practically meaningless at this point anyway. The symbolic ramifications are unavoidable. In light of that referendum result, Americans, French, Italians and many other peoples have woken up and become emboldened to enact change in their own countries. The next member state to leave the EU, hopefully someone like Italy, will collapse the entire project. A demolition job started by the British people in June 2016.
All I'm saying is that regardless of what you think of the UK or British people in general, you should be thankful that we dealt the biggest defeat to globalists and bankers in decades upon decades. Being the first to get out of the EU was always going to be the hardest, but we've helped paved the way for your country to do the same. If you're a European user on this board, you should praying that your people are able to pull of the same victory against their political class that the British achieved in 2016.
Noah Richardson
>The 'elected' parliament of the UK is no better than Brussels yes it is as it is voted only by brits and the laws are made only by the people voted by the brits your low IQ is showing sandnigger
David Ross
Americans and Russians are sending you neverending waves of refugees because they both want to destroy the EU. Neither will leave Syria or Libya until this has been achieved or their populations demand it, which they arguably did in the 2016 election.
The Parliament adopted the resolution, but it doesn't seem to have the power to do anything about it. The Parliament, from what I know of the EU, is a showy, elected body, with little real power. This is a stunt by second-rate nobodies who couldn't get elected in their own countries.
Caleb Watson
Better kiked in a white capitalist land. Than under Sharia law in a Muslim land.
you're a fucking canadian, you have no idea how the EU works we don't even get to elect the people in that jewish cabal, moron
Daniel Nelson
>because they both want to destroy the EU No, it's because they want to destroy European sovereignty and by proxy it's people. EU =/= Europe, stop conflating the two. The EU is the method of control, any public animosity is scripted.
Mason Hill
They shouldn't have had the power to allow 3 mil migrants into Europe either. yet they did.
Elijah Parker
When have we been allowed to vote on anything of consequence? In the UK you're virtually only able to vote for two parties. How can someone be so stupid as to support democracy? How can any democratic government meet the challenges we all face?
Extrapolate out global population, oil reserves or mineral deposits even 20 years. Lets assume that we'll have infinite access to pilfer third world nations.
>giving a single fuck about muh economies and muh currencies All directly manipulated and inflated/deflated at will by (((them))). I'd take sovereignty and honour over marginally better GDP as part of a slave race.
Caleb Ramirez
>it is voted only by brits and the laws are made only by the people voted by the brits Which means nothing. Kim Jong Un was voted for by his people. You think voting gives you power but it does nothing. The only two parties with a chance to win are substantially the same.
Aaron Hughes
You want to destroy Irish, Welsh and Scottish sovereignty right? Or are you fine with them taking your approach? How can't you idiots see that your best days were during the empire? Canadians are reminded of it constantly.
Britain doesnt want to go down with the sinking socialist ship known as EU.
Isaac Gonzalez
This fight against Jewish-Asiatic Bolshevism had been raging long before National Socialism came into power. The only reason why it had not already overrun Europe during the years 1919-20 was that it was then itself too weak and too poorly armed. Its attempt to eliminate Poland was not abandoned because of its compassion for the Poland of that time but only because of the lost battle before Warsaw. Its intention to annihilate Hungary was not discarded because they changed their minds, but because Bolshevist power could not be maintained militarily. Nor was the attempt to smash Germany given up because this achievement was not desired but because it proved impossible to overcome the natural resistance stamina of our people.
Thereupon Jewry began systematically to undermine our nation from within, and it found its best ally in those narrow-minded bourgeoisie who would not recognize that the era of a bourgeois world is ended and will never again return, that the epoch of unbridled economic liberalism has outlived itself and can only lead to its self-destruction and, above all, that the great tasks of our time can be mastered only under an authoritarian coordination of natural strength, based on the law of same rights for all and, thence, of same duties.
Easy to say, do you have a job related to exports? Or any job?
Dylan Phillips
What are you talking about you sperg?
Colton Hall
Their entire standard of living and security relies on access to global resouces. These people are dumb as a post and cannot even think five years ahead, complete useful idiots.
Jacob Gutierrez
Do you seriously think that Theresa May or David Cameron can save you? You're delusional. Britain has been in terminal decline since the end of the empire, you borrow $70b a year just to temper your rapid decline in standard of living.
Owen Bennett
Not even 20 secs between this 2 texts.You expect me to believe you typed it under 20 secs both of em.
The problem here again is that you have been Americanised into thinking the UK = England. This is literally an American education tier thing where Americans think British is just another word for English when it's not, England doesn't even have it's own parliament like the others do. I personally would prefer balkanisation of the British isles considering the leech level actions of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, but that doesn't stop the fact that the sovereignty overall is of the UK, not each individual region. By that logic we may aswell start talking about Yorkshires sovereignty or Essex's sovereignty. Then we can break it further into Norwich's sovereignty or Manchesters sovereigntyand so forth.
Ian King
Many on this thread seem to be buying into the David Icke idea that there is one Global Illuminati Pyramid of power and that everyone dances to the same tune. It's nonsense. Whilst the global elite are fellow travelers in a rough sense there are different plans that different areas follow. USA, UK and China have diverged somewhat from the Euro area. If you watch this interview with former head of the Bank of England, Mervyn King, recorded in March 2017 you can get an idea of the UK plan, especially for Northern Ireland. The bigger plan is to re-balance the global economy and make China consume more services from UK and America in future. youtube.com/watch?v=PMcuV5omfC0
Blake Mitchell
I assumed you're a UK nationalist and that you oppose Scottish, Irish and Welsh nationalism. You're an English nationalist? That's even more retarded, but it is consistent.
Oliver Walker
>That's even more retarded This is why we should deport leafs to fucking Mercury
>Do you seriously think that Theresa May or David Cameron can save you? Obviously not...? When did I ever imply that? I'd banish all political parties in a heartbeat if given the chance, and have most our elected officials from the past few decades hanged for treason. The point is, at least if the UK is independent, the electorate will have chosen those lawmakers and can live with the consequences. Whereas in the EU, they shaft you and destroy your nation just as much as Cameron and May, but you can't even get rid of them.
Isaiah Evans
You're literally using a machine that requires access to global resources and trade. What a joke.
You didn't even use the EU mechanism to limit Eastern European migrants. Your country was the first to mass import non-whites, those millions of non-whites didn't come from Europe you subhuman.
Adrian Thompson
The yids that completely run Russia and America want Europeans forever at their feet.
Whats that got to do with anything? Does national sovereignty magically mean nobody ever trades anything ever again? Did trading between countries not exist before 1990 or something? Not sure what magical land you're living in m8.
Henry Cruz
We rape all of Africa and most of Asia for their resources at bottom barrel prices. How long do you think this can continue for? China is already buying up mines all over Africa. Do you not know about the Soviet Union's commodity manipulation or the Arab oil price shocks that destroyed our entire gold backed monetary system?
You have no idea how the global economy works. Example: The British have traded third world migration inflows for corporate concessions since the 1950's, many third world leaders were educated in your universities.
Kayden Jackson
>When did I ever imply that? By ranting about sovereignty like it has any meaning for the way we live NOW. If there is a mass revolution of some kind then perhaps sovereignty will have some use, but to suffer in the name of replacing one bag of shit with another, is stupid. And it has distracted the entire debate from continuing mass non-EU migration. A bit like how talking only about illegal immigration distracts from the US being swamped with legal Spics and Pajeets.
Dominic Lee
Like I said, I'd hang our recent elected officials for treason. Not sure why that's relevant to this conversation considering I've made it pretty clear I want to end the ruling classes in the UK and EU. Both. This isn't about leaving the EU because our government is so holy and capable of fixing our issues. Leaving the EU hopefully accelerates things on both accounts. Britain falling apart, quite literally in terms of the union, and the EU clinging on for dear life. It's a joy to watch, and in the best case scenario, there is a revolution in this country and across Europe which fundamentally changes the systems we have in place now. Worst case scenario... everyone crashes and burns. Fun either way.
I will take to the grave with me an impenetrable joy that I cast a vote in 2016 which may just have helped set into motion a chain of events which destroys the EU.
Brandon Clark
IDC about the Brits but I hate EU so fuck you Zionist UNION
>If there is a mass revolution of some kind then perhaps sovereignty will have some use Exactly. And the only way out of this mess, for the entire western world, is revolution. Might as get the groundwork out of the way, because after March 29th we'll only have one establishment to tear down.
Wyatt Thompson
>You have no idea how the global economy works Uhhuh. You seem to think sovereignty magically means a global economy/trade is impossible . You clearly believe political unions are better and somehow are needed for trade so why stop at the EU? Why not just make a one world government?
