What Bible verse would you use to convert a Muslim instantly?

What Bible verse would you use to convert a Muslim instantly?

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Ephesians 12:36: "Nigga, if you don't start prayin' like me I'm'a kill yo ass"

That’s not a valid verse in the Bible

Deuteronomy 28

Then I'd tell him, "You're an Ishmaelite if you come from the middle east, your quron speaks of this. You know the jews currently are fakes, who are the real jews."
And if hes not an arab, "You're not an Ishmaelite, why are you reading their doctrine?"
Thats all it takes.

And Gawd said: " Let there be 72 Virgins with the experience of 72 Thots and there was. And they were good. Soooo fucking goooooooooooood....."

Even if the most well-equipped christian tries to convert, there is a large amount of musims who won't convert simply because they already think the bible is legit and the Quran is just "The Holy Bible 2". (Which is why they ignore the vicious shit in both texts)

John 3:16-19
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.

You must be using a different translation. I'm using the KJEV (King James Ebonics Version)

A piece when The romans come to sieze him in getsemani garden. They come in number of 600 because they expected that many people will fight them in defence of Jesus. When they asked which one of you is Jesus he replied "I am". The same as God in old testament. On the sound of His words they all knelt because He was a God and His words were so powerful. He could have wiped them with a single head nod but he chose to die because He loves us.

Probably the best few verses in the entire Bible.

All of the new Testament is invalid. Only the Jew Book is valid.

"convert or crusade"
that is not a bible verse but I think it gets the point across

The religions are all Sci-Fi tier epics re-written for technologically backwards people. You don't have to be a Christian to read the Bible, or look at Christian art. It's all information.

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I don't think the 'Son of Man' is actually a son, as in father and son. I think it means a new humanoid, made by Man.

Why do Muslim`s fuck goats, drink camel piss, and fuck children? Serious question

Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.

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99% of practicing christians dont understand the bible at all and get tripped up in symbolism, the bible is taught wrong on purpose in most churches to this very day. Only true chirstians understand the bible.

kek

Being that they don’t believe Christ is Lord, I’d seek to disprove their heresy by citing the verses:

John 1:1
>In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14
>And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Revelation 1:8
>“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
Mathew 28:18
>And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

There’s dozens more and for the most part I believe it’s the Islamic stance to say that the Bible isn’t the true Word of God so we can’t really trust it. Basically it wouldn’t really be worth using the Bible to win over a Muslim because it’s an appeal to authority they don’t see as authoritative.

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I don't get Islam. They claim to be Abrahamic, but Jews worship Yahweh/money, Christians worship the son of god, and Muslims worship some random goat-fucker merchant.

Sure beats... My wife.

>Even if the most well-equipped muslim tries to convert, there is a large amount of Christians who won't convert simply because of racial groupthink and tribalism.

FTFY

Also

Mark 12:28 to 29
28 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”

29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

Mark 10:18
"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone.

John 14:28
"... the Father is greater than I."

John 12:49
For I have not spoken on my own authority, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment—what to say and what to speak.

Matthew 7:22-23
22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ (read: I AM NOT YOUR LORD)

John 17:3
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. (ie not whom you begot, whom you've SENT ie messenger)


Jesus NEVER said " I am God" nor did he say "worship me" yet you let Saul the Christian killer tell you what to think despite it being the exact opposite of what Jesus was saying

He died for our KeKs.

Lmao

>with one verse
if it was that easy I would join the priesthood, but it isn't

man. converting people to islam on Jow Forums.

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and to help you out with your racial groupthink handicap, here are some videos of white dudes talking about why Jesus is not God and how the bible led them to Islam, the ultimate truth.

youtu.be/YW99U4JWNEc?t=238

youtube.com/watch?v=IYMKQKSV0bY

youtube.com/watch?v=LEKgxZbFG_k&t=809s

youtube.com/watch?v=iHFgcRGIrH0&t=1614s

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Read Daniel 7 bro, the reason Jesus calls himself the Son of Man is because he was the 'true' human. The one who showed us what a human can be if we lived our lives without sin, as God wanted us to.

>HUng in id
Hmmmmmm?

Are you going to address my verses?

None.

Because there is no God.

Common sense, 7:00 a.m.
Stop believing in jewshit you fucking redneck subhumans.

*tips fedora*
indeed, m'lad.

You're muslim, so you're wrong

>John 1:1
>>In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Where did John get these words from? These are not Jesus words. These are from the philosopher Philo, from whom John lifted those words

>John 1:14
>>And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
>Revelation 1:8
>>“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

The book of revelation is literally a dream/vision and not the actual words of Jesus in person. The book also has a beast with 10 horns and a dragon and legs made of pillars of fire... etc

You would overturn Jesus's ACTUAL words as I quoted above for a fantastical dream/vision (Not to say there isn't symbolic truth in Revelation but it you don't use implicit/symbolic knowledge to overturn explicit statements from Jesus.)

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Who decided what was valid or not?

I keep telling them they'll go to hell in all their muslim threads. They don't seem too worried about this. They should be and I keep warning them but I doubt it has any effect really. It's hard to u do what has been done to people raised by muslims unfortunately. I certainly have no clue how to make one see the light, seems almost impossible. But same could be said about jews and other atheists I suppose.

>Mathew 28:18
>>And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

There is nothing explicit about this point to " I am God" He was given authority. The judges were given authority in Psalm 82, which didn' tmake then literal Gods, but figurative only. Again you are reaching for implicit statemetns and IGNORING Jesus' EXPLICIT statment which differentiate himself from God. Below, you see that the disciples were also given authority to judge, and that doesn't make them God.

Matthew 19:28
Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Notice how your verses are super John heavy, thats because his was the last gospel written and the farthest removed from Jesus's life. There is a clear progressive evolution through the gospels from Mark-->Matthew-->Luke-->John that exagerrates his status and nature and makes Jesus sound like more than he was (A mighty messenger of God, the Messiah, the Word of God, and a soul from God)

Now will you watch the videos or at least one or two of them I posted?

Jesus says that He and the Father are one

Peter calls Him Lord and God, and Jesus says that this is revealed truth from Heaven to Peter. 3 of the apostles see Jesus transfigured before them, revealing a portion of his heavenly glory for their benefit.

Jesus was resurrected from the dead as he foretold and ascended Into Heaven bodily and sent the Holy Spirit as advocate and guide for His people.

As Peter said, Jesus is Lord and God

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Islam is literally just Nestorianism via Muhammad

psalms 4:20 "yo nigga pass that shit to the left"

What does the West offer? I would say all religions of traditional Faith should unite; Jew, Christian, Muslim, and Orthodox. It is a common foe, the destroyer, the religion of secular humanism.

Actually i think people not understanding the trinity gets people upset and confused. You'll even hear the repeated retarded arguments that the trinity is never mentioned in the bible, which of course is ridiculous. I mean did these people even read it? It talks about the trinity all over the place. Jesus talks about it etc.
And if you want to go the way of pure reason it is the only way to make sense of a "revelation" by an omnipotent god. But don't take my word for it think about the trinity for a second.

God is infinite and by definition beyond us. We are finitie and by definition cannot percieve what is beyond us. Thus the ball is entirely in gods hands. It's his choice wether or not he wants us to know him, in a personal matter. Hence the trinity. He had to come and reveal himself in a way that lets those who want to know him without taking away our free will, effectively destroying what we are. Thats Jesus right there. Giving you an equal but separate part that lets you know through believing. People should study the trinity.

If you haven't already noticed, Muslims will always say "but that isn't what Jesus said."

Chapters 8 and 10 in John are the best because Jesus claims to be God (10:30) and was around when Abraham was around (8:58.) Is funny how many mental hurdles people will go through when Jesus starts he is God as even the Jews understood that (which is why they tried to stone him in both those chapters.)

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Where does Jesus talk about the trinity in a way that isn't a stretch?

Here is the only time Jesus actually uses the words "worship me"

Matthew 15:9
in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”

IN VAIN.

He says he and the father are one in John 10:30 Did you continue reading or does everyone just stop right there? The chapter continues...


31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, 32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”

33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’[a]? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?

He evades the situation by clarifying that he is speaking figuratively, which is allowed by precedent as he refers to Psalm 82 where it is written "You are gods!!" He literally makes a case for why his words were figurative - one in purpose, one in message - you mess with Jesus you mess with God. That sort of thing

Now for you to INSIST that he was speaking literally, you would be agreeing with the pharisees who were seeking to stone him and by hook or crook looking for a way to accuse him of heresy, and you'd have to accuse Jesus of lying his way out of the situation by invoking figurative speach.

As far as the resurrection, funny how the earliest manuscripts of Mark, the very first gospel written, LEFT OUT THE ENTIRE RESURRECTION STORY. It only appeared in the later gospels and later manuscripts of Mark.

Perhaps it is us who need conversion? Our Churches are social clubs which preach "wealth" Our lives are degenerate. America has forsaken God, and God has now forsaken us. Perhaps we should repent as a nation with sack cloth and ashes?

Bullet dipped in pigs blood

Everytime he mentions it. The father, the son and the holy spirit. It isn't a stretch at all.

the bible isnt an answer for anything retard gtfo with your middle east magic bs, no one wants that garbage anymore.

honestly, its unfathomable that people dont understand that religion is a fkn meme - a slide thread.

*tips circumcised cock you love to suck*
How original you are, NPC boy.

>These are from the philosopher Philo, from whom John lifted those words
citation needed.
>The book of revelation is literally a dream/vision and not the actual words of Jesus in person. The book also has a beast with 10 horns and a dragon and legs made of pillars of fire... etc
And? That doesn’t invalidate them in the slightest. You could easily say that of the Pentecost or of Moses and the burning bush. You’re just deconstructing it.
>You would overturn Jesus's ACTUAL words as I quoted above for a fantastical dream/vision (Not to say there isn't symbolic truth in Revelation but it you don't use implicit/symbolic knowledge to overturn explicit statements from Jesus.)
You’re the one putting words in His mouth saying He explicitly said He’s not God when that is absolutely not the case.
And if the Gospel According to John is not valid to you
Matthew 12:8
>For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

as people are created in the image of god, they are 'sons of god'. Jesus is god in the image of man; hence the 'son of man'.

None, I would just tell him that his religion is a spin-off of judaism, just as christianity is, and in order to stop being such a big tool of the kikes, he should stop believing in jewish deities
but christfags and mudshits are too stupid and stubborn to admit this

None, it is pointless. Their society does not value the truth and cannot resolve conflict without violence.
For them everything is a permanent war until they (as they hope) finally get to exterminate all resistance to Islam.
Obviously I do not believe that every Muslim thinks like that, but elements of this thinking is present in all of them.
They are all tricksters and liars when they believe they can get away with it.
They'll probably do worse to you if they believed they could. They have to learn the hard way themselves how bad their ways are. (as do we btw)

Don't they kill non-muslims in your country?

Silly Saudi. You don't use bibles to convert muslims into compost.

yes indeed

Almost every Muslim country has a bunch of laws that guarantees the permanent dictatorship of Islam, usually by killing those who leave it.

All these cucks quoting scripture
using the word
>christ

Hey dum dums
666= ChiXiST
pronounced CHRIST

Christ = Messiah = anointed, by Jew High Priest as King of Jews = Title put on him to mock him
"Jesus Christ" is an Idol that replaced YESHUA, (his name literally means THE SAVIOR , in english and you fuckers call him a pagan name iezeus)

Read the fucking bible.

Stop caring what paul the false apostle says, he contradicts the gospels , he contradicts himself, he is a dumb ignorant mysoginist and those letters were never suppose to be in the bible.

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Obviously Christianity is not a spin-off of judaism since we don't believe in the extermination of our enemies and that anything goes to win like the jews and Muslims always did.
We do not worship warlords. (yes, jews do that kind of thing too, the old testament is a confession of repeated genocides committed by the jews)

This is false. Many young muslims are going fedora at alarming rates. they just cant voice it in public.

This is false. All dictators in the Arab world (Saudi included) are not Muslims themselves, but use Islam to control the public. You grow up when you realize that the tank and the beard were in cahoots all along"

You cant really convert with one verse.

but john signifies the importance of Jesus he is not just a prophet he is your only ticket to heaven

John 14:6

King James Bible
>Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

do you say that because sisi forbade divorce? that doesnt make him a kaffir

Liviticus 25:46

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Since for them Paul is not a real apostle you have to teach them why he is one. Repeat for practically every cult around. All of them shit in Paul.

>king james
King James;
Isa 62:10 Go through, go through the gates; prepare ye the way of the people; cast up, cast up the highway; gather out the stones; lift up a standard for the people.
11 Behold, the LORD hath proclaimed unto the end of the world, Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy salvation cometh; behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.

Hebraic Roots Bible;
Isa 62:10Pass! Pass through the gates; prepare the way of the people! Raise up! Raise up the highway; clear it from stones; lift up a banner over the peoples. 11 Behold, YAHWEH has made it to be heard to the end of the earth; Tell the daughter of Zion, Behold! Y'shua* comes! Behold! His reward is with

reading the version that hides the Saviors name in the old testament, replaces YHVH with the LORD, when the LORD is ba'al


bruh WAKE UP

why the fuck do you quote scripture if you havent read it

Nigga he isn't he is the false apostle
refer to acts , where paul is in ephesus arguing tiwth them

then to rev2:1-3
where the angel of the church of ephesus is the leader of the congregation, and guess who isn't the leader? its not paul
but the false apostle mentioned

read the fucknig bible

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the part about the sisters who fuck all the Assyrian twinks with huge donkey dicks that cum like rivers of stallions and in the end the crowds rip them apart

based and israelpilled

Consider these two very minor examples:

1. When Gama AbdulNasser was in power, Al-Azhar was vehemently socialist (bordering on communist). When Gamal was overthrown and the new regime became bffs with America/Israel, Al-Azhar's publications became capitalistic/private ownership etc..

2. When I lived in Saudi Arabia, they hung posters of the Saudi Youtuber who was shitting on Bin Salman in mosques. He never said anything about Islam, but by insulting a prince or a king, it is like he insulted God himself and must be declared a kaffir.

First refute them telling them their religion was made 700 years after Christ and explain Jesus died on the cross and 700 years before Paul wrote, "If anyone gives a different gospel than we preached let him be declared anathema." Galatians 1:8. Then explain how evil their religion is with Surah 4:24 and how Islam allows their degenerates to rape.

I think it’s in Ezekiel somewhere

>What magic phrase can I use to snap someone out of their magic realm?

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Rend your heart
and not your garments.
Return to the Lord your God,
for he is gracious and compassionate,
slow to anger and abounding in love,
and he relents from sending calamity.
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

>galatians

The Savior:
>Matt 5:17
>17 “Don’t think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I didn’t come to destroy, but to fulfill.

>Paul the lying Jew Ephesians 2:14
>4 For he is our peace, who made both one, and broke down the middle wall of partition, 15 having abolished in the flesh the hostility, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man of the two, making peace;

The Savior
>Matt 19:17
>17 He said to him, “Why do you call me good?[a] No one is good but one, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

Romans 3:20
>20 Because by the works of the law, no flesh will be justified in his sight. For through the law comes the knowledge of sin.

THE LAW is the Commandments. Ex 20:4-6
>-3rd. “You shall not make for yourselves an idol, nor any image of anything that is in the heavens above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5 you shall not bow yourself down to them, nor serve them, for I, Yahweh your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and on the fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 and showing loving kindness to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.

let me ask you
who was the false apostle in Ephesus
Rev 2:1-3
it was paul
You know why? because the ANGEL OF THE CHRUCH OF EPHESUS means the leader of the congregation there
and guess
who wasn't the leader of the congrgation there , rather fought and argued with that congregation ? PAUL (refer to acts)

Paul also contradicts his story

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yes but what you say is a big conspiracy theory mate

>christ

what is this from?

>Isa 62:10

What kike translation are you reading ? If the Jews knew that Jeshua was comming they did not kill him

joel 2 13 nice

Joel 2:13 fren

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>saying that mosques and clerics are mouthpieces for the regime is a conspiracy theory

SIDF pls leave

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>using the language that The Savior spoke himself.

NIgga do you not remember when Yeshua kept cursing the scribes, why the fuck do you think?

>Matthew 12:8
>>For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

1. Son of who? Son of man or son of God? It is written plainly, sir, son of MAN.

2. As for calling him Lord, lots of people were called lord back then it is a sign of respect or general statement of superiority.

(a) Master: Ex. 21:5 (Covenant code) Gen. 24:12+, 44:5 (J, 20t.), 1 Sam. 30:13,15; 2 Kings 5:3,20,22; 6:15;
(b) Husband: Gen. 18:12 (J);
(c) Prophet: 1 Kings 18:7,13; 2 Kings 2:19; 4:16,28; 6:5; 8:5;
(d) Prince: Gen. 42:10 (E), Gen. 23:6,11,15 (P), Gen 43:20; 44:18+ ; 47:18, + (J, 12t.); Judges. 4:18;
(e) King: 1 Sam. 22:12+ (S&K 75t.);
(f) Father: Gen. 31:5 (E);
(g) Moses: Ex. 32:22; Num. 11:28; 12:11; 32:26,27 (J); Num. 36:2 (2x) (P);
(h) Priest: 1 Sam. 1:15, 26 (2x);
(i) Theophanic angel [an angel representing God]: Josh. 5:14; Judges. 6:13;
(j) Captain: 2 Sam. 11:11;
(k) General recognition of superiority: Gen. 24:18; 32:5+; 33:8+; 44:7+ (J 13t.), Ruth 2:13; 1 Sam. 25:24+ (15t.).(2).

bruh they knew he was a son of god, and he never claimed he was a Son of David but the Son of Man from other prophecies, if they weren't hypocrites and had actually read scripture they would have known that

>lord

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>he doesn't know lord is a literal translation of a demon
Adonai means MASTER

passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat them as slaves, but you must never treat your fellow Israelites this way.

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quoting this much shit but missing something as simple as
Jeremiah 23:27
26 How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies, even the prophets of the deceit of their own heart? 27 who think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbor, as their fathers forgot my name for Baal.

Yes so if they already knew his name from Isiah they would not have killed him because he is Yeshua from Isiah . No such thing his name is first mentioned in the new testament . the clues that Jesus was the mesiah prophecied were vague the jews did not even accept this today , So no his name was not in isiah

Nigguh, If ya ain't start mumble dem prayers Imma gonna bust a divine cap in ya ass!

Springfield 30-06

>he doesn't know how common YEshua name was in that time because of ISAIAH

lmao why the fuck do you want to defend the KJV so goddamn much, do you want me tro show you more lies?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshua_(name)

stop diolizing a king who changed the scripture because he wanted a divorce

>he defies the literal translation of Scripture

guess what buddy , you know how it was translated? Using the dead sea scrolls

coyhwh.com/en/bible.php
the entire isaiah scroll was found perfectly preserved and i imagine so because YHVH and Yeshua wanted us to see the truth

Think of it this way: the old law was like a contract (technically several covenants) formed by God with Adam, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, and David. This was good, but could only be made complete by God. It could not be voided any less than any contract with God could be voided, but only fulfilled. It's the difference between skipping out on a tab and someone else paying for it.

>YHVH and Yeshua wanted us to see the truth

2000 years after the fact they wanted to know the truth all bibles before are false

I dont really defend the king james non of the translation have it . if you want to believe the dead sea scrolls from the jehovah's witness sect at that time so be it

I don't believe that becoming Atheist is an improvement.
The Atheists who prosper here in the West can only do so because they leech off of a shrinking popular base that is still decent an honest.
The time will come when those people will be so few that the whole thing comes crashing down here.
Atheists to not believe in the truth or in honesty. They will not duel each other if need be to the death over the truth alone.
They do not treat those opposing them with kindness. You can see how the Wests only solution to opposition is total destruction of the enemy.
A Christian will not do such things, he will not single out an enemy who can be the scapegoat or sacrificial lamb because we do not practice human sacrifice.
I guess the kaffir thing is something like that in Islam. To Atheists it's bigots of all kinds whom you can freely destroy.

huh
all Yeshua came to do was to add love to the law, make everyone remember that the only thing above God's laws is God himself

> if you want to believe the dead sea scrolls from the jehovah's witness sect at that time so be it
holy fuck being this fucking ignorant

hey retard
want to know , who the essenes were?
The people JOhn the Baptsit and Yeshua STUDIED WITH.
want to know we know?
the essenes, baptized (the only jews to do so), they lived in 12s, and AND GUESS WHAT
THEY HAD A SON OF GOD PROPHECY THAT THE REST OF THE JEWS HAD DELETED

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4Q246

>BEING SO KEKED that you say shit like that

>Atheists are leeches
>Atheists are not good people
>Atheists are this and that.
Since we're making generalizations, all Christians are kiddie fiddlers.

I don't see Christians promoting homosexuality and pedophilia but there's plenty of Atheists who do so openly.