GUN CONTROL IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE

Vodka is too easy to make and the punishment is merely administrative

the gun is a commodity. the demand is high as shit therefore the supply is high. it's a purely economic argument.
the gun is also high tech. the gun will phase out once a better form of projectile launcher comes along that is even cheaper to make, but increases the user's experience tenfold.
whether the gun's projectile can kill someone or not is purely circumstantial and is irrelevant to the overall market forces behind it.
in order to phase out peak tech, there has to be a cultural shift, but this shift is impossible if a culture is diverse as shit.
if a society wants to phase out weapons of one type or another based on only cultural reasons and not technological reasons, then that society must first make efforts to become homogenous in every way possible, from race, to morals, ethics, values, and principles, even religion, language, clothing, food, etc.
then this homogenous group can take steps toward phasing out tech despite it being peak.
but if this homogeneity does not occur peak tech can never be phased out until a breakthrough occurs in innovation and an even better form of projectile launcher hits the market.

If you need anything long range like that, you need rifling. You ain't doing rifling at home without really expensive tooling and machines, so if you need range, you need a properly-made rifle. Even an old Winchester from the 1800s will work. But it is required for range.

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What if you coated shot in some binder that sublimated as the round travels, such that it acts like a slug for the initial flight but them begins to spread at a set distance range away?

There is not a single government on Earth that does not stockpile weapons.

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That's what shot cups do, user.

The point isn't to disarm criminals, it's to disarm law-abiding citizens so they can't pull a Bundy standoff when the socialist dictator takes over

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This pic is a bunch of black market precision rifles made in the Philippines.

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Here's a Kurdish single shot rifle with an effective range of 3.5 km.

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Interesting

Guns undermine national sovereignty. How can a nation guarantee people the ability to overthrow it? It's like saying a parent can makes rules, EXCEPT the child can choose to kill the parent...It just doesn't make sense. This is literally just here because pr*ts are in schism with the true faith so they hate all authority structures. I am not against weapons, but weapons is the state's choice.

You may also be interested in wax slugs.
You open a shell of birdshot, mix the shot with some melted wax and then pour that back into the shot cup. When the wax hardens, the whole thing keeps its shape, but blows apart the moment it hits something solid.

Governments govern via either consent or fear. Having arms makes the latter less viable.

again what right does a citizen have to overthrow the government? The government has a right to rule, and the right and duty to preserve the common good of its people. Meaning, it has every right to take away weapons if that is in line with it's duties.

>How can a nation guarantee people the ability to overthrow it?
Nothing in reality is guaranteed. Get used to it and learn to judge probabilities correctly, or kill yourself now, because this is not the world you want to live in.

Obviously made using proper professional tooling. You don't make a gun like that with shit you get from a retail location. And then there's the ammunition. Casting copper jackets is hard, and pressing casings and making primers is not at all a novice activity. Making shotshells is easier, as is casting shot(or using other shit as shot).

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The government either represents THE PEOPLE. Anything else is illegitimate.
>casting copper jackets
You don't cast copper jackets, user... You swage them.

A government governs at the consent of the people. How do you think it got there to begin with, the divine right of kings?

Whoa, wait a minute. Did they just get rid of flags?

And now it's loading. Must've just been my browser.

>You don't cast copper jackets, user... You swage them.
This, it doesn't have to be a perfectly smooth jacket because it's going to get stripped to hell and back when you shoot it. As long as it spins in flight, that's all you need for accuracy, and as long as there's some copper left holding it together, that's all you need for penetration.

A lathe, pillar drill and bandsaw.

Apart from screws and springs what else could you need?

*and a sheet bender*

A lot of fuckers do in fact believe that, even in America. It's why virtue signaling and attention whoring happen.

That's a Jewish media lie. Most people who think this way also think it's really dumb to go LEROY JENKINS against the government because it doesn't accomplish anything. Whereas, if the government goes LEROY JENKINS against you instead of acting like this is still a civil and lawful society then it's game on.

Hell, if you know how to anneal, you can make a Sten out of plumbing supplies, a hacksaw, and an acetylene torch. Maybe a loicense to buy steel pipe in bulk, in the UK.

Why would a Sten gun be “more effective”?

I think there's no restriction in Ireland on materials, afaik.
unlicensed fire arm is mandatory 5 years prison though, so in a proper SHTF situation it might be worth it

I certainly hope that's true... being immune to propaganda is like being immune to bullets, there's no such thing, and I sure ain't either.

Thankfully, neither is the media.

People who grew up when bullies were normal typically had a chance to develop a thicker skin and don't care much about bullies after they grew up. We'll set aside a separate category for people who were abused and didn't recover, but I don't see why a government would see fit to abuse people who had been abused unless they had done something wrong.

It's not that simple. It's easy to post some basic tools on Jow Forums.
What you're lacking is the large funds to buy these tools(and replacement parts and maintenance, etc) and of course lots of experience in smithing.

Because you can make them fast, cheap, and in bulk, to arm all your buddies with and turn them into a proper army.

In the USA ranchers all have guns already, but in places where the guns have been taken away, the Sten is even better than an AK-47 when you need to equip a fighting force fast.

These tools are easily got
Every secondary school and factory has a lathe,
Loads of people have pillar drills in their sheds
bandsaw, again in mechanics sheds, or use a hacksaw/ guillotine
Sheet bender, you can buy them pretty much anywhere and they are cheap.

With a lathe and an appropriately sized mandrel, making springs is a piece of cake, too.

You might be surprised how helpless a lot of people are at any kind of tool. They used to teach children how to shoot in school here. Now a hand drill or sawing a piece of wood is just about reserved for the ancient wisdom of magicians in a lot of places.

>I don't see why a government would see fit to abuse people who had been abused unless they had done something wrong.
Because they can. That old law of nature never goes away, no matter how many layers of man-made laws we blanket it with. Someone will always decide they can break the law because they can, and if that someone is going to hurt people for sadistic shits and giggles, targeting the victims of previous abuse who failed to fight back is safer than targeting random strangers who might fight back effectively.

My high school even had us doing basic robotics...

It depends if you have something anywhere close to spring steel in the first place. Good luck tempering something into spring steel if you're trying to make a spring out of something else and you don't know why it just goes smoosh pretty quick.

Piano wire is not hard to get, user.

I've never done that particular job
Springs are pretty abundant atm

Yeah, we aren't that cucked yet, everyone doing metalwork can weld, use a lathe, milling machine and the like by the time they leave school.

help me with my sentry bot

>be 18 year old HS zoomer
>tfw had to argue with this one landwhale about guns who knew nothing about them and was completely insane
J U S T F U C K M Y S H I T U P D E S U

They had me doing robotics in elementary school, but that was in the back room off the back room for the handful of children who scored high on all the standardized tests. The regular shop classes were still available to all, but going out of style and you didn't necessarily learn much because it was so regimented into class projects instead of the goal of practical use of the tools and machines.

>help me with my sentry bot
Noooope.
That's one field I refuse to work in.

Yeah, but how many people would think
>wait
>i forgot about getting piano wire
Again, you're asking for somebody who already knows what to do.

I saw a webm of the chinese AI machinegun turret

we're fucked if they unleash those things

I thought we all agreed that you had to be in the triple digits to do this kind of thing from the get-go...

There's also too high a possibility of there being a vulnerability and then having your own drones kill you.
It's a giant pile of NOPE.png and I want nothing to do with it.

Looks like it would be annoying to shoot desu

no need to brake any laws and deal with too many variables like tools, experience….

just get a bow and arrow

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better off, the webm though the guy was still alive because the shots were moving him across the floor, it just kept firing user... it wouldn't stop because it had no soul...

hey OP, where are there plans/blueprints to start building these?

>Yo tyrone, blacken that nigga's sky

On the other hand, it's interesting to work with the people who build killer drones (they won't tell you that they're killer drones because military funding always comes with cover stories that make for good PR) because you can learn how they think and how it all works inside.

These people might be triple digit, but that doesn't mean they're as smart as they think they are. They're just good at PR stunts and getting more money while they give the tech away to China.

you dont make sense

>Coward hiding behind a meme flag
You're the fucking Croat, aren't you?

That's a firearm in NJ.

A good citizen

doubt that is true

Most gun owners are pussy betas who will hand in their guns if asked. The rest are functionality retarded.

Yeah, I'm still going to hard pass on killer drone jobs. Even Google employees don't want to work on it because it's too evil.
user, grow the fuck up.

>more effective

>user, grow the fuck up.
Yes you should
more guns= more deaths

>Killer drone
Archery and falconry would be far better aesthetically speaking anyway

more guns =more fear of death
= better behaviour

Read this book.

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My favorite thing was when my boss was like
>we can use it to save people from burning buildings!
I'm like
>is this nigga serious or just that retarded

But just like guns or any other practical skill, it's good to know how it works inside or even, uh, well, you know, if people are so trusting you can think of other things you might want to uh, "experiment" with.

look on the bright side, you can advocate genocide and not get in as much trouble.

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>more guns =more fear of death
= better behaviour
doesnt work that way look US stats
not true

>would never bother to get the, if they were illegal
>imypling said braindead fucks aren’t the same ones hitting people over the head with baseball bats or otherwise killing people
If anything you make the point of responsible gun owners being necessary to protect yourself from x% of the population that are and always will be braindead retards; thereby solving said violence problem and removing these retards from society.

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Genocide is a pretty big NAP violation, my dude.
user, you've been BTFO every single thread about this. Gun ownership doesn't even correlate with firearm homicide, let alone homicide as a whole.
Guns were never the problem.

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Yah ok you can read cant you user?

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Yeah, you're just gonna make the rifling in a gun steel barrel that has to stand up to rifle ballistics and function accurately ALL THE TIME with zero gunsmithing experience. With a cheap lathe.

I don't think you understand how tough this actually is. There's a good reason people who KNOW homemade weaponry rarely recommend folks make their own rifles. It's because without proper tools and experience and very tight controls, it's extremely easy to make a gun that will probably kill either yourself or a member of your team.

For example, you don't just carve away at a barrel. Do you know why it has to be exact?

Still I doubt they would bother with a bow

You can make a firearm with a set of files and a manual drill.

>Obviously made using proper professional tooling
Any factory or big workshop have that. People made guns in jail, when they are out and have access to advanced tools, what do you think they will do?

all of them have high gun ownership legal or illegal

Be good little boys and girls and never do anything bad or illegal ever again, of course!
lol

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it's mostly niggers being shot
they commit the most crime

you can get cnc lathes user

yes they do you are an idiot having guns more available will definitely impact gun related deaths its basic logic
illegal

You realize one of the worst genocides in recorded history was done with almost exclusively machetes, right?

So you're seeing that the countries with illegal guns have high murder rates? Why is Serbia not the same then? There's a massive black market for guns there.

Not for rifles. And if you're making something other than a rifle for long-range, you need to be making a shotgun. Unless you're in prison and need concealability.

>Gun related deaths
Do you only care about someone being killed if it's with a gun?
I own multiple firearms and have killed precisely zero people. I guess they must be defective!

I would still rather grab a length of schedule 40 pipe or some PVC or something and make basically a musket out of it. No way am I going to try to make a rifle and expect it to not get all fucked up on me when I try to use it, let alone a semi-automatic one.

guns make it possible to kill more people
a guy with a machete is more easily dealt with
than a guy who has a pistol

This quad 4 can be made entirely out of bicycle parts.

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You've never shot a firearm, have you?

>a guy with a machete is more easily dealt with
by a guy with what?

they still have more gun related deaths than European countries with tougher laws

Neither here nor there. You don't get to advocate for breaking laws after touting moral high ground for being a law-abiding citizen. Bows are firearms in NJ. Any legislation that effects guns also effects bows on a legal level, Mr. Law-abiding Kike.

>you can get cnc lathes user
You can also buy Land Rovers or summer homes at the beach.
The average joe cannot afford a CNC machine. And the average joe does not have the experience with CNC software to successfully design/make rifled gun barrels.

You just don't. Sorry. I know you think you do, but you really don't.