Why is it that on this board debunked nonsense in regards to world war two is spouted so much? On youtube, on reddit you can see brainwashed hearsay there as well, drivel that is debunked if you do a google search or read a history book so I ask again why is the truth in regards to world war two so skewed here? I can bring up the genocide of Slavs and I might be labelled a Jew or a political term, so being labelled a Jew, a marxist, etc are all anti Slavic blanket terms used sometimes to keep the truth under the rug, which if exposed to more people will leave the masses seeing that german national socialism as the putrid monstrosity it really was. So why's this truth hard to accept?
For years not one time has anyone in anyway debunked mainstream view of the eastern front, so much for all the senseless lying and posting debunked nonsense, it achieved nothing good. One argument brought up is cherry picked so thus it is invalid such as that the Ukrainians initially welcomed the Germans.
What are you blathering about you maniac? >Muh Easternfront!
Kayden Allen
What do you want debunked? There's plenty of proof, both documentation and eyewitnesses that the Germans and Russians both committed atrocities against each other all over the entire front. Hell it's a well known fact that Stalin killed way more people in acts of genocide with his NKVD without even counting the war crimes to make the Nazis seem like amateurs.
Michael Gray
Because Hitler wanted to genocide millions and millions of Slavs, in the end he killed way more Slavs than jews. Jow Forums wants to deny this becaus based Poland/Russia/Serbia, but Hitler was slaughtering them by the millions. The only excuse is that all Slavs were communists but Hitler allied *with* communists like Russia against Poland which was an anti-communist nationalist country. Yugolsavia was originally an anti-communist monarchy but Germany still invaded.
Germans were backstabbing faggots that only cared about Germany not "fighting communism" they were fine with mass murdering Poles, Ukranians, etc regardless of how much those Slavs hated Stalin and communism. Hitler didn't care about fighting communism as much as he cared about a German Empire and in Hitler's German Empire he wanted to kill Slavs by the millions.
The fact that neo nazi revisionist lies have never been justified or proven as true as they inherently all white wash the bloody reality, so in the end neo nazism is inherently racist/offensive against Slavs, the biggest white ethnicity which suffered more numbers wise than any other ethnicity in europe. This truth has never in any thread been demonstrably disproved.
Nonsense, the rape of eastern europe by the nazis exceeded any former soviet crime. Do you know what the hunger plan is or that tens of thousands of Ukrainians actually died from starvation. Do you know why the Ukrainian insurgent army started? It was due to nazi terrorism.
The holodomor dwarfed any ineffectual hunger plan the nazis wanted to put into place.
Isaac Flores
A huge part of his forces were slavic and slavs were aryans according to his ideology. Fuck off, Jew.
Nathaniel Adams
You proved my point that the word "Jew" is used as an insulting blanket term for a Slav, or in this case someone who just speaks the truth about the eastern front.
Germans were committing atrocities against Civilians and POWs, before 1942 they had already starved over 3 million Soviet POWs to death.
>Stalin killed way more people in acts of genocide
Maybe in peacetime, but certainly not in wartime, and since Hitler started Barbarossa he's mostly to blame. He was allied with Stalin before he stabbed Stalin in the back and invaded. Up to that point the Soviets had been fully supplying the Germans as they invaded most of Europe.
Holodomor was 3.5-7 million deaths, if the Hunger Plan had been implemented fully it would have meant 20+ million deaths which is about the number of deaths Morgenthau and FDR wanted to implement on Germany under the Morgenthau Plan. Somehow I think the Germans wouldn't find it so funny if it happened to them.
Hitler made specific bans against recruiting Soviet Slavs at first and it was only the generals disobeying orders that allowed a small number of Slavs to be recruited. By the time Hitler did accept Soviet Slavs the war was all but over. Hitler was an ideologue he really did believe Slavs were scum that should die and be replaced by le German mustard race.
>You proved my point that the word "Jew" is used as an insulting blanket term for a Slav, Lel I'll give you this, Shlomo, at least it's a new kind of divide and conquer tactic. Tell you what, I'll get you a cigarette before the rope.
Jaxon Clark
Blabla, eye witness accounts.
Do you guys still peddel steam chambers?
Benjamin Richardson
>a small number of Slavs to be recruited That's not how you write hundreds of thousands, including Russians. The Ostbattalione alone had 427.000 in 1943, while the Ostlegionen had even more. Nice try you lying nigger.
Sebastian Scott
>while the Ostlegionen had even more. Correction, it's less, since the Russian Liberation army (under German command as well) doesn't count as one. That one alone had at least 125k Russians, though estimates vary widely.
Landon Gomez
Eastern Front >be aDolf >not understand cold weather >not understand winter >not understand seasons >be a vegan leftwing socialist tard >invade anyway >loose
Dylan Morris
Half a million slavs fought for the germans, and it's hardly surprising - the enemy was communist.
Jace Carter
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Liberation_Army 300.000 russians according to Wikipedia. So there were about a million Slavs fighting at the Ostfront, probably causing lots of the evil crimes you complain about too. Look up the oil shortage, he had oil for 2-3 more months, waiting would have crippled the army.
Noah Lewis
I think Hitler killing Slavs by the millions was more divisive than anything the kikes could invent. Why were they slaughtering ethnic Christian Poles at Auschwitz before they sent a single jew there?
>1943
Yeah so after Germany had already lost and Hitler was desperate enough to violate all his beliefs. Also those weren't all Slavs it was a lot of Caucasus people and Turks (Hitler loved Turks and Arabs btw)
“This board” is a place with people on it, and people have disparate views on lots of things. I maintain that Hitler should have just built an Eastern Maginot.
Ryan Anderson
>shill getting desperate Kek, the Russian Liberation Army wasn't comprised of slavs? The Ostbattalione weren't? The Ostlegionen had some of the people you list there, but it's not only the smallest group, that also doesn't mean shit and they weren't Arabs.
Grayson Baker
Only after 1943 when the Germans had already all but lost the war. And even then they only convinced 20% of Soviet POWs to fight. Prior to that Germans just starved Soviet POWs to death on purpose Stalin style.
A lot of those enemy soldiers still hated communism and would have aided the Germans if Hitler wasn't so insanely anti-Slavic.
Ukranians were very pro Germany in 1918 and helped them fight Russia and the communists. Instead in 1941 when Hitler invaded he didn't even end the collective communist farm system and then put in charge a guy named Erich Koch who said "If I meet a Ukrainian worthy of being seated at my table, I must have him shot." and planned on emptying Ukraine of Slavs and replacing them with Germans.
Instead of arming and feeding Ukrainians Hitler continued starving them to death.
He's lying fren, see my posts here. Stop making up lies to DnC then.
Aiden Brooks
I never said aDolf did.
Re-read what i said spasmo.
Angel Fisher
Even if Hitler had killed every man woman and child on the planet he would still be better than the hell we live in today so all the gay shit that nigger is saying is pointless
Carter Flores
Once again, the oil shortage was a thing since 80% of the world's oil was produced by America and Romania wasn't able to produce enough alone for the Axis. He had to take the Russian oilfields and do it soon, do you have another alternative?
Doesn't mean I have to let butthurt dual citizens from America get away with saying shit like Hitler only had a few thousand slavic soldiers and only because his generals resisted him when he had over a million and didn't try to prevent it.
OP is a lying nigger.
Jose Lewis
Germany had already lost the war by 1943 with their 800,000 Axis casualties at Stalingrad, recruiting Slavs was a last ditch effort that Hitler had banned for two years because he was an insane anti-Slavic ideologue.
If he had treated the Slavs with an ounce of respect they could have rolled over Ukraine and most of Russia easily like in 1918.
at least 3 million dead Christian Poles, 1.5 million dead Yugoslavs, at least .5 million dead Belarusians, 2-3 million dead Ukranians, these are just the civilian numbers. Way more Slavs died in the war than jews
Jason Fisher
The world is only so faggoty today because Hitler ruined it by turning everyone away from nationalism and conservatism with his insane genocidal imperialism.
Kevin Young
According to Snyder “at least 2,505 people were sentenced for cannibalism in the years 1932 and 1933 in Ukraine, although the actual number of cases was most certainly greater.”
One more horror story. About a group of women who sought to protect children from cannibals by gathering them in an “orphanage” in the Kharkov region:
“One day the children suddenly fell silent, we turned around to see what was happening, and they were eating the smallest child, little Petrus. They were tearing strips from him and eating them. And Petrus was doing the same, he was tearing strips from himself and eating them, he ate as much as he could. The other children put their lips to his wounds and drank his blood. We took the child away from their hungry mouths and we cried.”
By the time that the Germans got to the Ukraine it was basically a russian colony that had had it's indigenous people starved to death or deported to Siberia.
As far as the colonization plans of empires, the only one to succeed was the Soviet empire they built in eastern europe and it was bloodier than anything the germans were remotely capable of accomplishing
Because they're degenerates aswell, like the sjw leftists who promote sodomy/identity politics. Another side of the medal called "the western degeneracy".
We don't know the actual numbers during the Eastern Front it was a hellish apocalypse plunged in total chaos all we have are estimates, the same as with Stalin's mass murder before the war. You are just like a communist denying the Holodomor or Dekulakization or the Great Terror. We don't have exact numbers for mass murders by communists and we'll never have the exact numbers of Hitler murdering Slavs either. All we have a general guesses. We certainly know that Hitler hated Slavs just as Stalin hated peasants (most of whom in the USSR were also Slavs).
Mason Thomas
always find a way to keep the "master race" lol going.
short little turds with with honkers and brown eyes and eye
"muh master race!"
damn the stupid nazis got their asses kicked. think about it, 1000year Reich btfo in less than 10! and then blame the jews for it going to shit!
>revisionist lies You said Eastern front, faggot. The holohoax never happened, KIKE. If you believe a single jew was gassed during world war 2 then you cannot learn the truth, you will never learn because you refuse to acknowledge the truth and only believe the Soviet and jewish lies about something that never happend. this. And Alfred Rosenberg was a slav as well, Hitler (may he rest in peace) main man in the Germanys race realist movement. He killed communist slavs..what the fuck is your point? We all know what Hitler meant when he ever said anything about Slavs or the slavic people of Europe..he meant the slavs as the whtie niggers that were living in ghettos just like the jews in Europe, they refused to assimilate or produce anything of value. Then when the bolsheviks came around, these slavs quickly supported them. He thought they were inferior because they just allowed communism to take over, they didnt even put up a fight, well most of them didnt, he thought this was weak, and it was. I bet you cant explain Lithuania or the Nazi in Estonia, and Bosnia, can you?
>You proved my point You havent made a point, faggot. This board is anonymous, anyone can post here. You do not know wtf youre talking about, JEW.
Daniel Cook
Jow Forums doesn't debunk, it bunks.
Charles Powell
of course you have no answer for aDolf not checking the forecast!
muf weatherz is fine and sunnyz, lets iunvades
Carson Perry
>JEW
lol fucking pathetic.
Christian Thompson
Operation Barbarossa had winter clothes and loads of fuel. Not much of anything else, so they set the fuel and winter equipment on fire. They expected Hitler to call them back and prevent them from overextending their supply lines like any reasonable commander would have ordered.
Nathan Nguyen
Very schizophrenic post I'm actually trying to pin point all your statements in facts but cant find any
Ethan Gray
In the Soviet Union Hitler mostly killed peasant Slavs that hated communism and were victims of communism and Stalin. Had Hitler shown the Slavs a single ounce of respect they would have sided with him, instead he kept the communism collective farms going and killed anyone who complained.
>ghettos hurr must assimlate
Soviets Slavs lived in rural areas far away from non-Slavs they weren't bothering anyone. You're just a genocide apologist.
In Poland and Yugoslavia Hitler killed mostly anti-communist Slavs
Kevin Gonzalez
>As far as the colonization plans of empires, the only one to succeed was the Soviet empire they built in eastern europe and it was bloodier than anything the germans were remotely capable of accomplishing
Absolute nonsense. Nazis were like demons in human form. They sure acted as such.
>implying whites aren't the master race salty slantey insect confirmed
Bentley Davis
who the fuck cares at this point..War is brutal, user, and that war never had to be fought..Hitler did not start that war, Britain did. You can sit and argue you all day about how many each side killed but it wont change the fact that the kikes run things and it wont change the fact that they are the reason all of this even happened...so fuck off back to faceberg or plebbit, where ever the fuck you came from, no one cares.
Alexander Nguyen
>still man..you are a schizo.. Go eat some ramen, chink
Jayden Scott
>muh soviets did nuthin wrong what the fuck are you on? even after stalin died the soviets were absolutely brutal in their repression.
Parker Moore
the wars that Russia are waging today have their origins in this time period All of the colonization during the ww2 era is what allows them to claim that their ethnic groups are being oppressed and need to be liberated into russian client states
Charles Smith
We'll never know the exact numbers, sorry that's just how it is.
>lol who cares I'll just murder millions of anti-communists while claiming to fight communism
You really can't pretend it was about communism then, it was mostly about German imperialism and Hitler wanting a German Imperium at the expense of Slavic peasants.
>War is brutal
But its even worse when you implement genocidal policies against civilians
>kikes run things
Yeah mostly because Hitler destroyed a lot of the good anti-jew nations. Poland was anti-jewish and anti-communist and Hitler then allied with the Soviets and invaded it while killing 3 million ethnic Christian Poles. How do you make excuses for that?
John Bennett
Nazis not strictly just Germans would have made eastern europe into a red stained mush of brains and guts exceeding any soviet repression. In fact if the nazis won and in 1941 or 42 and started settling eastern europe with germans it would create an ideal environment for actual ethnic conflicts to happen to further justify in their eyes and before the German public the mass starvation of millions of Ukrainians and Russians.
Carter Rogers
>we'll never know >so believe my numbers, user disingenuous fukn loser m8, poor form
Logan Hernandez
We'll never know the exact death statistic for WW1, but we all know it still happened. That's not really different from any pre-modern war.
Alexander Russell
what do you expect from poltards? half of them dont want to accept the fact that hitler didnt care if you were not jewish, he killed more non jewish whites then he killed jews. but poltards will do all sorts of mental gymnastics make it seem ok that he killed whites while at the same time praising him for it.
well why quote numbers you fukn lying faggot. you've shown your hand faggot, go back to plebbit where retards will take your (((numbers))) seriously. Fukn top shot loser making numbers up. Get a fukn life.
>we'll never really know. >at least 3 million. lmao, are you even trying? This has been the most pathetic attempt to sway board culture away from NatSoc I've seen in a while. Cry maor
Robert Edwards
The true nature of the Eastern Front was that Germany had gotten lucky in their West European campaign (Minus the Battle of Britain and trying to push Operation Sealion) when they had prepared for much worse. They took those victories not as strokes of luck, but as proof they had created some kind of super-effective battle strategy. Since they regarded the Soviets as lesser than the British or French, they went into Operation Barbarossa thinking they would have a swift victory using that same strategy. The initial offensive had major results, but bogged down after a few months as the Germans approached Moscow and once the Soviets finished moving their industry further East, the war for Germany was lost. By the end of the war the Soviets were not only majorly outproducing Germany, in some crucial areas they were improvements over Germany (Especially in being able to have a majority of the Army motorized.)
Kayden Howard
Holy shit the Jews are damage controlling hard now that the Holdomor is gaining more recognition.
Grayson Ross
what swayed me away from Natsoc is dumb retards like you. you all come from the same cookie cutter, everything is a lie to you people
It could be 3.1 million it could be 3.5 million it could be more and that's ethnic Christian Poles murdered by Hitler, people that were mostly anti-communists and disliked jews.
>How do you make excuses for that Was really an autistic move. Nazis fucked up so much in every single way. Doesnt mean they werent /our guys/
Cameron Cox
What's the point of even focusing on the Nazis? They lost. They ended up importing more slavs into their country as slave labor than they ever seeded german colonists in slavic lands.
Alexander Carter
>proud newfag I can tell >it could be >it could Holy fukn give up you utter brainlet if you can't produce a source which supports your assertions, don't fukn make them, truly is disingenuous.
Jacob Morris
Himmler's top secret letter to the fuhrer that supposedly proves the nazis wanted to kill slavs literally just said they were going to test slavs for racial purity and if they passed they'd assimilate them to the reich. if they didn't pass, they'd give them an education program. the said that those commie slav countries had to be broken up and could not become powerful or they would be a threat to the reich. there is literally no extermination. germans thought genocide like the communists did was un-german.
Wyatt Brooks
the point is that a lot of people on pol idealize what hitler did while at the same time bitching about the destruction of the white race even though hitler did nothing but help to destroy the white race.
>What's the point of even focusing on the Nazis? because the people who don't want whites to exist focus on them. EVERYTHING white people do that isn't self-hatred is nazi now. they will call you as nazi no matter what you do. if you try to deny it, they won. you're denying the nazis, which is what they want.
Ukraine only existed because ever since the HRE germans have supported a Ukrainian state to be a buffer between them and Russia. Ukraine is the Belgium of the Eastern front, not poland