LIVE: ‘Yellow Vests’ protest in front of UN headquarters in Geneva

Switzerland has something kind of like what they're asking for right?
Switzerland is also more decentralized though. I don't know how this fits with their referendum system, but their regions are more autonomous and the central state has less responsibilities (thus probably more limits on what the referendums can be about IIUC). France isn't like that. The state is very powerful. This might be a real complication.
In any case the government isn't making ANY significant concessions. The "great debate" is a joke. It's just Macron campaigning with public money and trying to explain to people why nothing can truly change. Trying to pit groups of people against one another by presenting concessions that would have to be made at each others' expenses.
Today is antisemitism week for the media too it seems.
I hope the yellow vests are butthurt enough to keep doing this for months. Even if they don't get anything in the short term, it's putting a lot of pressure on Macron's administration and making it less effective.
The EU elections probably aren't going to go well for them either.

Oh ok.
>B&T AG indique dans un communiqué de presse que les munitions utilisées ne sont pas celles fournies par l'entreprise et que le fait d'utiliser d'autres munitions avec le lanceur LBD-40 augmente considérablement le risque de blessure et réduit la précision du lanceur.
They say not to use the ammos that the French police are using with it though.
I think I remember reading that they also said to never aim at the face with it.
The French police aims at the face though.
I heard them verbally threaten to aim at the face if the protesters didn't disperse during one of the protests.

Yeah Switzerland is the only free country in Europe thanks to it's direct democracy. It's not perfect but all people live a better life than in other EU "democracies".

EU stasi is untouchable and doesn't have to follow laws.

I've been out of the loop for a while, how bad was Saturday?

the usual: some riots, a car drove over 3 GJ, some police violence, underreported numbers.

>a car drove over 3 GJ
Hol' up. Was it a cop car?

scared family apparently
vladtepesblog.com/2019/02/17/car-runs-over-yellow-vest-protestors-in-rouen-france/

First time I notice a yellow strip on a French flag like this.

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That's unfortunate.

>Die LBD-40 sind ein schweizer Kassenschlager
>The LBD-40 are a Swiss box office hit

Welp. Looks like the stream is over.
Not like the Swisses were ever going to gas and flashball them I don't think.

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God bless you Frenchis. Right when I thought you guys were a bunch of lost faggots you pull shit off. It's hilarious this isn't getting much coverage! Absolutely outrageous. France, a nuclear armed Western power, is in the middle of this. I'm still not gonna label this a revolution until bullets start flying. Come on frogs go full 1789. Imagine the implications if the Frenchies rise up and guillotine that faggot Macron. I doubt NATO or the EU would let that happen. Which brings up another question if this shit goes hot and Paris burns will NATO or the EU intervene?

lol.

more of this bullshit still?

Wat ze fack?
It's wednesday
MOOD
youtu.be/JoR8izwksDQ

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You about sperged out now, buddy?
This is nothing more than a couple of thousand malcontents without a structure, without spokespeople, without a clear message. Nobody is going to start a war over a bunch of losers. But maybe you're 13 and you read too many comic books.

it's heading right for a revolution, and i doubt the UN, NATO or EU would intervene, since UN and EU already have condemned france for both police violence and restrictions to the right to protests, i'd imagine UN and NATO would let it happen
and EU doesn't fucking matter, if you take away Italy (supports yellow vests) and britain (brexit) not a single eu country with an even resonably large or powerful army's left
these guys are all gonna pay, don't worry
I see you're back
how's your day?

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Is the world doomed? Can we really take back everything from the greedy moneylards ruling us?

I'd say we need a hero to fight them back.

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Why'd the stream already close?

we don't have time for scandals directly proving AIPAC is interfering in our democracy, or China, or how the Europeans are finally rising up against the globalhomo tyranny of the EU. We have to pay attention to some nigger who filed a blatantly false police report!

A minority doesn't like the democratically elected representative and organize protests with the idea of removing him from power. I've seen this before. You have no legitimacy. Wait for the elections and vote for someone else like every mature person does in democracy. I know it's very romantic the idea of rebelling against the state but unless you're advocating for a dictatorship I don't see the point. Not saying a dictatorship is the wrong idea either.

They're defending their Loli waifus

>democracy
>3/4 of the voters aren't participating/ vote blank, but blank isn't recognized as a vote

gtfo you stupid krauts

Why you germans love EU so much?

So you want to forbid voting blank or what's the idea? How do you propose to improve democracy?

>minority
>democratically elected
he means that macron wasn't democratically elected since he didn't get the vote of half of voters, we want a profound change to our institutions to make sure that people vote again and actually trust in our politicians, wich is clearly not the case right now.
and one way we want to improve democracy is by creating a form of direct democracy, a referendum initiated if enough people want it.

By cuting every single influences lobbies/corporations can have with our candidates. Because right now the people in power in France aren't the french but a small clique of ultra-riches using antisemitism as a shield to destroy any opposition.

Well, in my case because I feel more European than German. I worry about the fate of the entire continent, not just my country. I appreciate that Europe has different cultures in different places and they are not my cultures, still I don't feel Italians or Spaniards as foreigners. There are many of them where I live, they seem to share my values if not my culture. The EU brings us all together and makes us stronger as a unity. I really don't like how the current EU is organized with so much political bullshit and excessive bureaucracy though. I'd like to see it reform into a union where all voices are heard and the power is not monopolized by a few nation states.

Nature is horrified by emptiness

So you don't like the 2-round vote? It really favors the majorities but don't think that the situation is much better when 7 parties are struggling to make bullshit coalitions to rule... Democracy in general is really problematic, but I wouldn't be able to name a better system.

>The EU brings us all together and makes us stronger as a unity

The only guys made stronger here are the people stealing your money with the benediction of Bruxelles. And I'm talking about thousands of billions.

the 2 round system isn't the problem, it's flawed but probably the best we can have
that's not the problem, the problem is that our current political establisment is extremly corrupt and doesn't care about us, once they are elected they do watever they want, the way to avoid this is having the RIC, the popular initiative referendum, in wich the poeple can at any time contradict a law, establish a law or even call for anticipated elections.

I don't know, man, I'm doing quite well financially. I still believe we do well in having a coordinated foreign policy for example. Free movement of people is also a big win, provided we control the external borders.

This might sound a bit crazy but you don't want politicians to be "caring about you" all the time. Otherwise they design their policies to be popular, not to be practical. For example, any project with a scope longer than 5 years is not pursued, and if they have to make debt skyrocket to pay for something fancy to get them votes they do it...

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>I don't know, man, I'm doing quite well financially

We do not care about you. We shouldn't be lending millions to corporations only for them to fuck us raw, the entire country budget is filling the pockets of investors, shareholders. We're more productive and efficient years after years but the people are poorer and poorer. It'll definitely ends in blood.

>the people are poorer and poorer
Not saying this isn't true, but do you have something to back this or is it just a popular opinion?

Hm who's opinion holds more weight yours or the frenchie I'm about to reply to? It's good that the revolution doesn't have anything you mentioned that's how it gets infiltrated by (((them))) now a days. Remember OWS, 1969 New Left here in the USA? Started out organically but then (((they))) installed the spokespeople, made the structure, and changed the message. Don't be such a cuck man. Germany can be great again too.

I hope so. I doubt it'll be a long drawn out civil war. A quick break up of the status quo which will be short but violent will happen I reckon. How does your family and friends feel about this? Are there people openly calling for arming themselves or attacking VIPs?

I'll have countless sources to back this up and it'll be all in french. But I don't even understand how you can ask sources for something so fucking obvious when unemployment is hitting new records everywhere, when the government is hiding it with bullshit one day long contracts/bullshit formations and training to manipulate the numbers, and when on the other side every giant corporation makes more money every years.

good thanks man. How are you?

revolution? lol -
come on man, you cant still be selling that old line?

the Israelis have entered the fold!

I cant wait for the /pol to try and wrap its mind around this conundrum!

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I believe unemployment will be the norm in maybe 2-3 decades. Machines are quickly becoming better than people at most basic jobs.

And do you think your Lord and Savior Jeff Bezos will personally takes care of your ass to feed you if you do nothing before the final jump into extreme poverty? Because that's the kind of people that'll really be entirely ruling the world if you do nothing.

"We are displaying a woeful lack of vision in the way we fumble with the eternal laws of life. It is not enough that we now hopefully create a setup permitting men to give allegiance with their minds or to serve faithfully with their bodies. We must some day face the truth that man is inevitably and incurably an idealist;
for this is the truth that will set us free. Man's need is for the idealistic content of his nature to be properly nourished; then his whole consciousness will impel him to right action -and then no more will our laws fail,
treaties be broken, and the rights of man stand violated"

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12 people with an Idea and the willingness to carry it out, can have more effect than 150,000 Yellow Vests walking around.

youtube.com/watch?v=uiAbHmwIwGs

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I think countries will start to implement basic universal income and most surviving labor will be in services of all kind. It will be a bizarre world, that's for sure, with people being paid to play videogames or to engage in social media.

>he genuinely think that the state and the industry will voluntarily take care of the population, when the value of a modern citizen is extremely mediocre and when every ressources are becoming scarces

nigga

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14 weeks and still going. That is awesome. Even Christmas didn't cause people to drift away. Macron is so fucked. Non-Violent protest is what they fear. It causes disruption, and loss of money, but the state can't send in the riot pigs to crack heads. Bad PR.

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why is there a giant chair outside the UN?
And no, unless they storm the place and execute every Jewish pedophile inside, it's not happening.

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They did send some zionist fat pig labeled as a " philosopher " into the street, unsurprisingly he was booed by the crowd and now every medias are trying to describe the yellow jacket as hardcore anti-semites.

How about fuck off!

>Well, in my case because I feel more European than German.

Fuck off. Is this some kind of new karut power fantasy?

>France isn't like that. The state is very powerful. This might be a real complication.
This is what the centralized government says to discourage the idea. Local structures are already there.

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If you look into it Germany is the first place in yurope watching scat-porn. It's not a surprise if they like shit.

>more European than German
This has to be a troll or a shill, i struggle to believe anybody that would sincerely type such a sentence would post on this website as all.

I’ll take the bait anyway though. You don’t feel ‘european’, you feel like a soulless insectoid. you have lost your German culture because you live in steel n concrete urban hive where you are surrounded by other anomised, deracinated, and atheistic corporate ladder-climbers. You feel connected to your Italian and Spanish hive-brothers because they’ve also had the connection to their nation bleached out of them and replaced with a desire for sushi and cool apartments and fitbits.

Culture develops through the interaction of a cohesive tribe with their environment. People mock my country for >no culture, but prior to the depredations of a certain other group, we were developing a culture of our own as the English/Irish-derived aussies adapted to survive and enjoy the harsh conditions for which their physiology isn’t suited. That’s all but lost, of course, thanks to our own bug-cities and the spread of globohomo values.
>more than 1 million immigrants in a year
This is where you end up when the politicians don’t care about their own people, Hans.

tfw France was butchered

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Tear down the fucking gay ass chair

Every time I think you can get any more cucked, you go and prove me wrong

>t. Macron

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You are given the two options deutschfreunde

A) Merkel
B) Much worse than Merkel

Who will you choose?

Thanks, couldn't find the new map.

>Well, in my case because I feel more European than German.

Yes goy, we have your interests at heart. Just vote for us and the common "european".

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Nop, Switz is just as fucked

French yellow cunts moan and rant about the evil banks. They whine and complain about the rich not paying taxes (the French wealthy pay more taxes than anywhere else in the world but that’s beside the point)
And their model society is....Switzerland? The country where the banks are kings and where the richest French citizens have been fleeing to avoid punitive French taxes,

Thank God their support among the people is in free fall.

So Switzerland has citizen referendums. Yeah they can handle it, their citizens are responsible. They voted against a minimum wage raise for fucks sake. In France every leftist’ wet dream would come true with this referendum shit,

That Nouvelle Aquitaine region is just absurd.

Pays Basque and Vienne....so much in common.

>Why Geneva though?
Because that's where the UN Headquarters is?
Also I've been there and I can safely say that's its basically a walking example of hypocrisy from the multimillion dollar art installations, billions of dollars worth of "gifts" from rich oligarchs and a giant statue of everyone's favorite quotable socialist Gandhi to boot.

>The EU brings us all together and makes us stronger as a unity
Pretty funny stuff Hans!

YES YES YES THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN

THE UN IS THE HEAD OF THE TRANSHUMANIST SOCIALIST WORLD GOVERNMENT

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i hope you get shot in the fucking head

How long has this boring shit been going on for

France is pathetic

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Why do Latinos love communism so much?

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Low IQ and laziness.

Why does Bulgaria exist as a country? It's one of those homosexual ones.

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>Why does Bulgaria exist as a country?
To troll you.

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They go to Switzerland, you fucking retard, because it's outside EU and there is UN headquarters.

That makes no sense, sunshine.
What the hell does all this mess have to do with the fucking U.N?
And they wanna leave the E.U too?
They really are a fucking joke.
Anyway you don’t complain about France being (in their piss addled brains) ultra capitalist and a slave to the banks and then cross the border into a real bank slave state. If you can’t see the glaring contradictions, you’re the fucking retard. Actually since you seem to be a yellow faggot supporter, you were always a fucking retard.

Don't be so sensitive user.
Let's debate in a constructive way.
You look pissed because I said you were retarded.
I'm catholic, I have huge compassion for retards like you.

that is cool and all...
but nothing will come out of this

I bet you this was said about all of the revolutions at some point. I dont say that the vests will change the political status quo but a lot may come out of this

What are you doing here? It's not Saturday.

Are they chanting "Do not take away our lolicon"?

Don't get me wrong, I hate macron and want him gone, but the yellow vests don't have the same enthusiasm and momentum they once had.

I've heard Swissbros saying this a lot on Jow Forums, but I don't really understand why. Can you give me a QRD on why you think your country is fucked? I always thought it's at least as good as the Czech Republic and Estonia in terms of personal freedom, ethnic composition, and culture.

Wait for Spring.

>let’s debate in a constructive

Ball’s in your court, sweety.
So far you have brought zero as far as coherence, let alone arguments.

Saturday was very big but not for the usual reasons, a Zionist figurehead got booed in the streets, and the MSM turned it into a circus, the Jewish lobby escalated its hysteria and is now pushing for more repression, which in turn will keep awakening the masses as to who owns the country. It's accelerating exactly as it should.

JFC, you Krauts have been brainwashed beyond belief. Tragic.

Based Frogs.

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How to do Ban protests? Do you issue court orders saying a protest is banned?