If you hate the Jews so much, why don't you create your own "secret society" that upholds hard work, education, and virtue such that you become the dominant subculture pulling the strings behind the scenes.
What's the matter? You're not willing to do this because you're actually just a lazy, unskilled invalid who's looking for the laziest possible target of blame for your resentment of how your life has turned out as a result of your own poor decisions?
Grow up. Get some personal responsibility which many of you seem to lecture ad-nauseam about. Read a Peterson book or something.
>Why dont we fight like a bunch of cowards and use subverting tactics
Adrian Johnson
Fpbp
Julian Roberts
The only tactics that matter are winning tactics
Jace Young
>working hard and taking personal responsibility for your life is what cowards do Ok retard.
Lucas Cook
>Secret societies >Hard work
Ryder Diaz
You'd need to get off your ass and recruit likeminded people to then establish the logistics of the population transfer. This is too much work for Jow Forums NPCs, might just let it go and larp online or hope that someone with guts and leadership skills will come along to make your dreams come true
If it isn't hard work, why aren't you creating your own? Do you think the Jews got where they are by just larping in dark hallways? Pathetic cope
John Allen
because our adversaries employ specific mechanisms to prevent natural, interest-based group formation.
people with shared interests are deliberately isolated and compartmentalized. normally individuals with similar interests identify strongly with each other. every social/pack animal does this. it's not a social deficiency that gen x and millennials somehow acquired by magic. it's the result of a sustained disruption of normal social processes.
Aiden Collins
>people with shared interests are deliberately isolated and compartmentalized. If what you say is true by your own logic then the Jews wouldn't be this unified boogeyman whom you claim is the source of your "social disruption".
Why are you looking for an easy target to blame when you could simply take a platform of your own and find "your own people" with whom you can unite with under your own shared virtues in order to have comparable influence in society as the Jews?
Is it just because you're lazy/it's hard?
Wyatt Smith
in light of this, OP's line of questioning is akin to asking someone why they can't walk after you've broken both of their legs.
Hunter Roberts
What the fuck do you think this board is? You think there aren't layers and bunkers beneath this, that this doesn't go way down to the most oc oldfags? No? Good. Keep thinking exactly what we want you to think. Semper fries. Dog runs on cieling. Veni vidi caeser salad.
Jordan Edwards
"waaaaah i'm so lazy and dumb and anti social, I can't create a group of people who think like me!! da jooz did this to me!!"
>why don't you create your own "secret society" because they're for faggots
Jonathan Kelly
i didn't actually mention jews at all.
rather, i resent the sort of loaded question in the OP, and i think it's a typical example of the exact sort of social engineering that suppresses and pathologizes effective group formation in the first place.
Landon Brown
congratulations. you have earned the pity of everyone on this board. Do you want a losers cookie?
David Reed
>If you hate the Jews so much, why don't you create your own "secret society" that upholds hard work, education, and virtue such that you become the dominant subculture pulling the strings behind the scenes. That's what Jow Forums is faggot
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Adrian Sanders
Sorry, I'm not a kike and I don't want to subvert the society in secret. >The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. Do you know who said that?
Josiah Evans
this social engineering depends on a certain sense of individualism, a fundamental and profound ignorance of groups and group dynamics. since i'm on the receiving end of this aggression, what else can i do but fight it? i have no future otherwise.
Isaiah Price
If you are lazy you are happy with jews and their welfare programs.
It's the people who work hard and see people that don't do shit and get promoted to the top that want to see the jews gone. That is the entire backbone of the nationalist socialist movement.
Cameron Nelson
>i think it's a typical example of the exact sort of social engineering that suppresses and pathologizes effective group formation in the first place. How? To restate my question, I'm simply asking "If you hate this group of people who you think has this influence you claim, why don't you create your own group and have your own influence if you aren't too lazy to do that?"
Explain how that question is part of "social engineering that suppresses and pathologizes effective group formation", you haven't demonstrated: 1. How any "social engineering" (as you claim it) suppresses effective group formation. 2. How the "suppression and pathology" of group formation is even able to exist when a group such as the Jews is able to exist. 3. A definition for what the "suppression and pathology" of group formation even is.
Your argument so far has not proven any of the claims you've said and an outsider would view your words as the mutterings of repeated buzzwords and key phrases as an illusion/smokescreen for an actually substantive argument.
Eli Gomez
Plenty of right leaning people are trying to stoke pro-white sentiment. Problem is kikes keep infiltrating those circles and sabotaging them by making them infight and purity spiral.
Just look at atomwaffen, they claim to be white supremacists but the literally have only killed their own since their inception. Also they larp as ISIS and worship the Quran.
Kikes keep forcing their way into pro-white circles and either make them Zionists or false flag and make them literally Islamic. What the fuck does Israel or Islam have to do with the survival of our people? There's simply not enough whites left to fight in this Jewish/Muslim holy war, we should avoid it entirely.
>I don't want to subvert the society in secret. Then don't subvert it. Make it better. This is what the Jews perceive themselves as doing. So do it if you're not too lazy.
>Do you know who said that? What does it matter when Jews are hardly a secret society?
Jayden Smith
Stop being a whiny socialist begging/tantruming for "the elites" (conveniently and fallaciously conceived as a monolith) to treat you nicer and start making lemonade.
Ryan Collins
We have to gather as many redpill people to help fix the Jewish problems in America. But let’s wait for world war first because when the Zion puppets in position of power force us to save the poor Jews we can just mobilize and hit the gorilla warfare tactics pack up and lock and load be on the lookout as war is brewing and the Gov won’t have much of a choice but to force us to force for zog and we can counter it
>in light of this, OP's line of questioning is akin to asking someone why they can't walk after you've broken both of their legs. And also saying it's irresponsible to want to get rid of them afterwards.
Owen Barnes
Expelling the Jews is our personal responsibility.
Jack Perry
Personally I wanted to find out why none of this feels like it's worth working towards at all anymore or seems impossible like I'm being tricked. Had to quell that loud whisper in my heart saying that something isn't right here. Didn't really help.
Evan Turner
This IS a secret society user. You’re just a dumb kike faggot with a wet NPC brain.
Brayden Ross
>"If you hate this group of people who you think has this influence you claim, why don't you create your own group and have your own influence if you aren't too lazy to do that?"
most people do not apply logic in their thinking. their world view is governed by very simple associations and relationships, not by causes and effects.
and at its core, most propaganda takes advantage of exactly this. people understand associations, but rarely think in terms of causal relationships unless they have to. it's much harder to think in terms of causal relationships than in terms of association. association is just memory recall. causal relationships require more brain power.
Gavin Mitchell
antisemitism is a response to the double standards jews hold for themselves and non jews. it is a double standard baked into their religion the entire jewish identity stems from drawing a distinction about themselves by being held in higher esteem than anyone else. the foundation of jewish identity it them being chosen by god and nobody else being chosen. backlash to the double standards that stem from this are called antisemitism. really antisemitism is justice.
Juden Peterstein is a distractionist who covers for the jews. No races or peoples are brainwashed and demonized publicly by jews/liberals for collectivizing and looking out for their own interests - EXCEPT for whites. White liberals do most of the work now, working to import refugees, shame other whites for not having empathy, for being racist, bigoted, etc. To the point where the brainwashed liberals will die from being beaten and stabbed by a shitskin, and not knowing why.
Noah Stewart
logic is not taught in school. you learn all sorts of symbolism, all sorts of associations, but none of them are directional. you are often asked to follow a procedure, but very seldom asked to employ inductive reasoning. this pathway is almost never exercised and as a result, people grow up into zombies.
Christopher Carter
The way the system works is the more money you have, the more you can make through usury. Our opponents have thousands of years starring advantage and I don't agree with usury, so that's not happening.
Lastly, you're gay.
Ryan Baker
Because Whites are not parasites.
Daniel Brown
> if you hate faggots so much, why don't you try fucking up your asses too go fuck yourself, kikey
Josiah Lopez
Whites simply lack the behavioural patterns necessary to combat Jews through subversion. Jews literally evolved for this.
Logan Williams
Even if your opposition is utilizing usury (which is your alleged claim) there's nothing preventing any other external group from assembling and retaking the influence which you perceive the Jews as having.
You're not convincing me with these unsubstantiated usury claims, also.
Isaac Hall
Mossad agents are running rampant in America with the power of the state they are targeting people and destroying people’s trusts even with family members and work related trust.
Seth Rich was hit by these mossad operations and the FBI covered for them.
We are under attack at this very moment they will destroy you financially and they are inching none stop to take your guns away as well and selling US secrets to both China and Russia.
This has nothing to do with democracy just because it’s a Jew taking your rights away doesn’t mean that you’re a Nazi trying to stop this subversive tactics
We need to unify as a group to fight this beast together
Take your country back or Go pick up the litter outside your council flat, Darren.
Brandon Stewart
>If you hate the Jews so much, why don't you create your own "secret society" that upholds hard work, education, and virtue such that you become the dominant subculture pulling the strings behind the scenes. It was called Catholicism. Why do you think the kikes attack the church so much? The vulnerability and the greatest strength of the church is that it has open doctrine instead of esoteric bullshit.
Owen Brooks
The mistake is trying to include all whites. Swedes are hopeless. Irish are traitors to anything "English". Germans are sheep.
English and Danes and Norwegians need to unite and create a cohesive in group. No "Nordic" shit either. Just good Anglo fortitude and determinate and more group cohesion.
Hudson Williams
the church also corrupts your understanding of cause and effect. the strategy is as old as time itself.
Brayden Jenkins
Be careful what you wish for jew. Germany did this in 1933 and it didn't end well for jews like you.
I'll include Serbs too. The ones I have met are based. And Czechs. Them along with the English, Danes, and Northern Italians are Europe's brains trust.
Nathaniel Rogers
>Stop being a whiny socialist begging/tantruming for "the elites" (conveniently and fallaciously conceived as a monolith) to treat you nicer and start making lemonade.
i'm only trying to pin down the problem itself. and you're asking me to tolerate their aggression without any sort of complaint.
Charles Johnson
So then why not convert to Catholicism instead of blaming thew Jews as the reason why you're not able to live a happy/virtuous life?