Lulz

NYC is already gentrified and full of foreigners.
The whole reason Amazon was driven away is because low wage foreigners would have been displaced by Amazon increasing property and rent values.

If only that wasn't a fake billboard.

Why would NY lose 35k jobs?

The $3 billion is money you wouldn't have got without giving them the $3 billion tax break, so I guess you're probably just retarded so it's pointless to ask you any real questions, but I did it anyway.

Explain to me how we (New Yorker here) would be losing jobs by gaining jobs? Who would Amazon be putting out of work?

Is it really lost wages if they never ended up coming to fruition? It's like saying piracy is lost sales

There's no evidence that piracy is committed by people who would have bought it if piracy was not an option. There is certainly evidence to suggest that an unemployed person might take a job if it offered them a good wage and appeared out of nowhere due to a company deciding to move into a certain area.

the local businesses would suffer. the traffic would suffer. the rent prices would suffer forcing people to move out of state (NJ or CO being the prime candidates). the entire infrastructure would suffer if you suddenly add 20k new people in the already full Borough.

furthermore everyone wants to live and work in the City, why the fuck should we be paying our taxes for anyone to move to the city? in the end Amazon needs the NYC harbor and airports more than NYC needs Amazon, otherwise they'd open up their shit center in WV or w/e.

if they don't want to operate here without us subsidizing them, they can freely fuck off and let a proper company set up shop.

This desu. It would be more out of staters.

Handle this, coña.
Everyone knows it's you and him posting. You're slipping in popularity. Ilhan and Bernie have it in the bag, you're a one hit wonder. Go back to your oats and hay

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A core group of managers would come in from out of the area but most would be local hires (like 90%).
All of those people would be living in the area. Gentrification is not bad. It means people are making things better. Just because you never got it together to buy something in your run down neighborhood is not their fault.

>No Amazon means NYC doesn't get those gains.
If giving tax breaks to Amazon would have created gains what's the logic with not giving all new and old businesses in New York the same deal?

She organized the push back. She is a moron.
I just wish this shit happened closer to the election so it would have bigger impact. It will be forgotten by Nov 2020

>but most would be local hires (like 90%).
>All of those people would be living in the area. Gentrification is not bad. It means people are making things better.
Yes as we know all good neighborhoods are full of people making minimum wage part time.

>Amazon needs the NYC harbor and airports more than NYC needs Amazon
That's so hilariously wrong. NY is totally fucked without Amazon from a budgetary standpoint because everyone's packing up and moving to Florida because the ass-fuck taxes here are ridiculous.

Without Amazon we're losing something like 2 billion a year, not to mention all the people who lost whatever objectively better future they would have had thanks to the boatloads of jobs Amazon would have created.

>MUH RENT
If you can't afford to live around the amazon complex then that's sad but ultimately irrelevant for how astoundingly beneficial this deal would have been for the entire state.

>why the fuck should we be paying our taxes for anyone to move to the city
Because they're not your taxes? They were tax breaks that would have brought in 10x more than they were worth, but instead you get NOTHING.

Also you're a fag.

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>all new and old businesses in New York the same deal?
they don't have the multi billion shilling industry backing them like Bezos

>the local businesses would suffer.
Why?

>the rent prices would suffer forcing people to move out of state (NJ or CO being the prime candidates). the entire infrastructure would suffer if you suddenly add 20k new people in the already full Borough.
Contradictory concerns.

>furthermore everyone wants to live and work in the City, why the fuck should we be paying our taxes for anyone to move to the city?
because NYC is a dried up old whore of a single mom with BPD, a horde of half nigger and half spic bastards she needs to support, and drug habit that needs to pay companies to fuck her.

>furthermore everyone wants to live and work in the City, why the fuck should we be paying our taxes for anyone to move to the city? in the end Amazon needs the NYC harbor and airports more than NYC needs Amazon, otherwise they'd open up their shit center in WV or w/e.

They don't need the harbor for this douche bag. this was a corporate head quarters. This was all office jobs.
The local business would not suffer. Most would make out just fine especially all of the food establishments. The traffic would be no different. The rent is already insane. Adding 25k families would make no difference outside of the local area of the office.
They wanted NYC for the people not the infrastructure.
Granted you would not have the intelligence level required to work at the corporate location so it may have been bad for you.

Awe poor lil ol Amazon couldn't take advantage of deal not given to any other businesses in New York. Why did this sultry donkey take away tax breaks from my favourite multi-billion corporation?

No douche bag. These would have been office workers. So high 5 and 6 figure income.

Amazon is not going to suffer. New York and the surronding area is going to suffer.

why don't you and your out of town yokels pack up and move to wherever it is where you can suck Bezos dry for all I care

Are you fucking stupid? This would have been the second HQ of Amazon, not a shitty factory. These were average $150k/year jobs that now don't exist.

This.
>The absolute hamster wheel C O P E, of post wall hipster whore NYC, thinking that Chadazon is giving her a second thought after he ghosted her ass for wasting his time, and that another Captain Save-a Hoe billion dollar tech company will knock on her door any day now.

>Amazon is not going to suffer.
No shit?
New York and the surronding area is going to suffer.
Are they actually suffering? Do you know what that word means?

AOC is just trying to bring back poverty-stricken crime infested 70's kino New York after de Blasio failed. Make gritty city dramas great again!

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>These were average $150k/year jobs that now don't exist
They never existed.

Hmm..
You would have to keep giving businesses more and more concessions to stay but then you lose jobs but the state loses its sovereignty.

I'm really looking forward to you faggots running on a platform of running jobs out of your own neighborhoods. Don't mind me, I'll just step out of the way, and by all means, please continue. Do you need me to turn up your microphone?

Rare flag

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The grit and grime is still here, it's just moved to SF

This is so hilarious. I know that it's Amazon, and Amazon itself is shitty, but she would've done this to any other big company anyway. What's even more crazy is that she'll still get reelected, even after fucking over her district to the tune of 25,000 jobs.

What do the outer boroughs of NYC make?
What is their industry?

There's a reason that companies that set up shop in them get tax breaks.

>AOC is just trying to bring back poverty-stricken crime infested 70's kino New York after de Blasio failed.
That's what her voters want. Fuck new York they should just give all business in New York tax breaks. Why not? You and everyone else here seems to admit lowering tax burdens creates jobs. So why not offer that deal to everyone?

wtf I love amazon now

>dead and still clutching on to his last smoke

hard as fuck, they don't make hobos like they used to

Oh so you think those jobs existed in New York. Why?

>That's what her voters want.
>Tax breaks for taco trucks
How bout no.

they really shouldnt give her too much credit.

professional scapegoats can profit off this

>There's a reason that companies that set up shop in them get tax breaks.
Name one

>Tax breaks for multi-billion dollar corporations but none for mom and pops.

Yea man, paying high rents and working in an overcrowded tech market is the definition of having it together. Only people that would benefit are the Jewish landlords.

>Amazon would bring mostly foreign workers from other countries and workers from other states that would all come in and gentrificate the city
That ship sailed generations ago in NYC.
>while the city would be giving billions in tax breaks
Would the revenue offset the breaks? It's not a difficult thing to figure out.
>That's an incredibly simplistic way of looking at things
Oh, sweet irony.

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>Would the revenue offset the breaks? It's not a difficult thing to figure out.
Then why not offer them to every business there?

I was hoping to sell my home to one of these douche bags and move away but you fuckers ruined it.

I couldn't less of a shit about beaner mom and pops that moved to NY five years ago from Assfucktultepec, and now call themselves "New Yorkers".

>but you fuckers ruined it.
That's the free market bitch

>Only Jews own land in NYC.
>Nevermind all the white families that bought houses in Queens to get away from the niggers and spics.

That wouldn't have helped anyone actually living in the area. It would have just increased their cost of living and gentrified their neighborhood. The people taking those jobs would not have been locals. I would be foreigners or people hired from all around the country.

Those who would benefit:
>politicians
>pajeets
>business/stem grads from out of town
>landlords

Who would not benefit:
>locals

Lost money for Amazon, how exactly does that benefit anybody ey mr. no tax paying Bezos? Are you even part of country?

So suddenly it's bad for people to come from far away and distort the local culture and economy?

Irregardless they should give everyone the break they offered Amazon. Everyone here seems to believe that deal would have increased revenue and created jobs. Just because Amazon is bigger scale that doesn't change the fact that tax breaks pay for themselves.

Amazon was taking advantage of already existing tax-break and funding plans for new businesses. So yes, the same deal is open to other new businesses moving to New York.

Keep listening to retarded goblin leftists and taking it as gospel.

Oh noes, the socialist used all our money and now there is none left, cut services and jobs

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Muh jobs

>Amazon was taking advantage of already existing tax-break and funding plans for new businesses.
Not true.

Oh so since you’re a leftist and you’re trying to paint AOC opponents as Jews you have mention that somebody who contributes is a Jew? Cause clearly you’re trying to make it seem like people that don’t like AOC is advocating for Jewish interests

Most of the "locals" in Cortez's district are low wage foreigners that don't actually own anything. Why the fuck should we care about their "communities"?

>Someone think of Yafreisi's cell phone accessory store!

Yes it's bad. I'm not a liberal or open borders advocate. But it's dumb to criticize AOC for actually looking out for the interests of her constituents, who are mostly not stem grads or MBAs from top tier schools.

I mean if the FoxConn didn't go through and it was blamed on Trump for losing jobs that didn't exist, why not blame AOC and others who fought this?

Oh, that's okay. AOC stated not long ago that we can just print more money.

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Learn to read dipshit.
>This is what Amazons HQ2 was going to cost New York taxpayers - MarketWatch
marketwatch.com/story/what-amazons-hq2-means-for-taxpayers-in-new-york-and-virginia-2018-11-14
>Amazon also planned to take advantage of incentives through New York City’s Industrial and Commercial Abatement Program and New York City’s Relocation and Employment Assistance Program (REAP). Unlike the incentive offered by state officials, these city programs are available to any businesses that meet their specific requirements.
So yes faggot, part of the deal they were getting is available to every new business. But Amazon was getting extra shit on top of whist everyone else gets. FUCK YOU CORPORATE COMMIE SCUM.

The cholo on the left looks like the bass player for Infectious Grooves....and that other band....

The one time a politician is looking after the interests of the people who elected her instead of the interests of trillion dollar corporations and bureaucrats, and cuckservatives criticize her for it. You guys are retarded.

>Irregardless they should give everyone the break they offered Amazon.
Why?
Why should I support the proliferation of bodegas, cellphone accessory stores, halal butchers, immigration/tax attorneys, taco trucks, "gift" shops, "agencias de empleo",and churro vendors?

I think she won due to record low voter turnout in her district. Joe Crowley just assumed he would win and basically didn’t campaign. If he had, it’s likely that a lot more people would have voted and the outcome would have been different.

>why not blame AOC and others who fought this?
Because she actually was right. Amazon doesn't deserve anything special just because they are big.

Don't knock the taco trucks. They make some good shit for good prices.

Her people are not my people and their interests hurt my interests.

>Why?
Because muh jobs. What you don't like jobs? Are you a fucking commi?

>Her people are not my people and their interests hurt my interests.
Do you live in her district?

Coña isn’t a word. You don’t make it feminine when insulting either gender. Pussy or cunt is still coño.

They dont care about the people who voted them in. They want to crush the flyover heartland because they hate them and want to punish them.

NYC is the worst place to put a tech hub. The entire culture clashes with the industry. JP Morgan tried to start their own cloud venture there and failed miserably because they couldn't attract enough talent to the area. So, they've recently moved the entire venture to Seattle.

Fuck taco trucks.
Shit food for stoned hipster faggots that think they're cultured for eating Mexican street food.

Yes.

You can't get through to cuckservative boomers, just give up. They've literally been raised to suck corporate cock at every opportunity.

>Irregardless

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Then why don't you want new businesses coming in? Why do you only want Amazon?

It's a real word irregardless of what Webster told you.

>hurt local business
They’re not Walmart you retard.

It was a corporate headquarters (I.e. not a fucking store)

Jesus, it’s like watching a handyman shoot him self in the foot with a nail gun and then blame trump

Those cucks put a local favorite burrito truck out of business because two white guys owned it and were making the food while people cried appropriation

What "new businesses" are coming in here that are worth a damn? This area produces nothing of value, it's entire economy revolves around supporting Schrödinger's immigrants of questionable legal status.

They've been trying daily for a few months now.

Irregardless? That's not even a real word.
You're affixing the negative prefix "ir" to "regardless". But as "regardless" is already negative, it's a logical absurdity.

It's not fair to local businesses that don't get the same sweet deal they were getting.

Just a reminder that tech companies and tech workers prefer cities where they can create their own feudal system and distinct distance between the poor and upper class with a lack of middle class. They also prefer leisurely cities.

See: Seattle and San Francisco

Lets just admit that NYC was a terrible culture fit.

Honestly? Not really, she got like, 15,000 out of 300,000ish votes for her district.

>What "new businesses" are coming in here that are worth a damn?
Maybe if you guys gave everyone the same deal you were trying to give to Amazon, businesses worth a damn would move over there.

Not only did some rich guy use PAC pay AOC's boyfreind
she was fucking nominated by her mom in some Dem bachelorette for the new representative of the district.