Why should I be a white nationalist if white nationalism just means erasing individualism and listening to a...

Agree.
I could get behind "economic nationalism".

it doesn't. Do you know what the term nationalism means? Are you retarded?

Call it ethno-nationalism then. You have no argument, btw.

Which is why "white nationalism" is really only a thing in America, where "white" people actually exist, as opposed to "germans" or "poles" or "french". It's essentially American nationalism if you define the american nation as the original founding/colonizing stock of the country.

They do, but not enough to overcome nationalism. Continental hatred runs deep. The french are not going to unite with the british, the germans are not going to unite with the poles, the hungarians are not going to unite with the romanians, etc etc etc.

ethno-nationalism is idiotic in a world where cities can be destroyed with the push of a button.
Tribal warfare with nukes is a bad idea.

>what is the EU

You shouldn't. Just make sure to tell everyone else after the SHTF. Tell them you are an individualist and don't need to belong.
You can fight the hordes alone. I'm sure the commies will take you at that point after mandatory gender reassignment.

Those who don’t practice nationalism will be demographically replaced and their children will be harmed.

Breaking apart at the seams. Where have you been for the last decade? Germany tries to take over Europe all the time, it never works out for them.

i dono man, like. its putting our people above ourselves.
and ensuring we live to see another day.

but on the other hand,no holds barred libertarianism sounds rad.
money, technology, endless hedonistic desires.
all for the low low price of morally bankrupting your entire society.

its honastally a toss up for me. as long as we get our white asses to space, i probobally wont mind how its done.

Imperialism causes war, not nationalism.

Are you retarded?

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>breaking apart at the seams
Because they've started letting in so many non-europeans

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>Those who don’t practice nationalism will be demographically replaced and their children will be harmed.
there are betters ways to spread good genes. Incentive based sperm donation eugenics is very effective. Also, if people are informed that success is genetic, and that simply having children with the right genes can all but guarantee success, you will see a sea change in human evolution.

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hey yeah, all the perks of libertarianism, just with no browns or jews to fuck it up for us.

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Individualism enables totalitarianism. When their is no coherent community the only way to impose order is by force.

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I got bad news for you, user... Pakistan and Indian exist. They've got nukes and they're engaged in tribal warfare every day. Hell, not even a week ago they had another border spat.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Pulwama_attack

Just cause you disdain the game doesn't mean others won't play it.

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White nationalism is a kike trick meant to brainwash you into betraying the one thing that matters to you: yourself and your personal DNA. They want to fool you into fighting and dying as a pawn, doing someone else bidding.

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No, they've been breaking apart since long before 2015. 2008 was when it started, first with the collapse of lehman bros and then with the russian invasion of georgia. Euros don't have any problem cooperating when peace and prosperity rule, that's true. And prior to 2008, peace and prosperity were the rule. But 2008 was the first real crisis the EU faced, and as soon as it happened, they all immediately went back to defending their own national interests.

Put it like this: When the economic system collapsed, Texans might well have wanted to tell the new yorkers to go fuck themselves, but they couldn't, because they're united. Tax money from all over the country went to solve the problem the new yorkers caused. When greek banks collapsed, the germans didn't say "Oh, we better help them out, we're united in the EU after all", they said "Fuck you pay me." Why? Because "they're greeks, and we're germans."

Because in a homogeneous nation, the "totalitarian dickhead" is your brother and cares about the well being of you and your family.

you shouldn't be white nationalist at all
it died when Hitler got defeated
it's all lone wolf crusades now like Dylan Roof or Breiverik

Lol what a faggot

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Because humans are tribal, not individualist.

I agree.

Also it's a complete and utter shit fest these days. Have you seen how Nazis these days dress? Wife beaters? Really? There is no actual pride in it, most of those hicks just want to feel better than someone else for a change. When we dressed in Hugo Boss we ruled the world. Now we dress in Kohl's offbrand and suffer the consequences.

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herd mentality is easier to send to their deaths.

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>just submit to Big Brother, it's for your own good
How does it feel, being a bootlicker?

>Germany tries to take over Europe all the time, i
You must mean Russhits.

>gets exposed
You're joking right? Why do you people think it's news tucker gets paid a lot of money? He's got one of the most successful shows on TV.

That's not what it has to mean. So that wouldn't be a good justification.

They're mostly just interested in holding eastern europe so that their east flank isn't quite as exposed as it is now. But yes, when they do try and take the rest of Europe, we get involved quick. MacKinder's heartland theory rings true.

words in this day and age get twisted in meaning by stupidity and misinformation. nationalism does not imply fascism, totalitarianism, or racism. white nationalism i guess implies racism if you are trying to kick out all the non whites... and the only way to do that would be under a fascism. so i guess if you don't want to obey and listen to a totalitarian dickhead and have any free will or rights become privileges to be granted by a more then likely oppressive regime, then you will have to drop the white from the nationalism. keep the nationalism, advocate your financial and government system of choice, and firmly restrict migration controls to restore stable demographic balances.

you are nobody. it's up to you if you want to be something.

>totalitarian
try authoritarian

No one gives a shit about you as an individual so nobody cares about your "individualism".
If Americans and Europeans won't assert the existence of their people right now, they will go extinct.

Stop being an egocentric faggot.

Should Japan take in non-japanese immigrants at levels that would make Japanese people a minority in the country in less than 100 years, yes or no?

Speak for yourself, collectivist.

Well said. And that's why China will overtake the West in all of her decadence at this rate.

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Are you king of the world, English Teacher? You have to submit to someone, even if it's just a crossing guard. You don't have to be a bitch about it, just know your place.

>jew keeps jewing

No. How does it feel cumskin, being a bootlicker?

>No
That makes you a bootlicker too dummy-san.

JUST THINK how cucked whites are that it is even REMOTELY DEBATED whether we are (((allowed))) to promote our own survival self-interest.

STOP. BEING. JEWISH. PAWNS.

HEIL HITLER. WHITE RACE FOR ETERNITY.

White nationalism doesn't necessitate fascism. In fact it's quite the opposite. Why do you think lefties/blacks/etc accuse the US government of being fascist all the time? It's because it's a multinational government, which cannot exist without oppression. Better to have separate nations for each distinct national group, so that they can rule themselves in accordance with the fundamental principle of liberal democracy, national self determination.

No he's correct. There are animals that are born and live their entire lives alone. They're individuals. You would have died if your parents didn't spend 15+ years raising you, feeding you, teaching you your language and culture and values etc etc. Sure you can display individualistic traits, but long before you discover tastes of your own, you are a member of your family.

Good point. Authoritarianism is not the same as totalitarianism.

Japan, not china.

>an objectively inferior culture telling us to drop a cultural attribute that makes us superior
individualism gone bad is bad, gone right its why whites dominate the world basically

Because it's funnier that way.
Serious answer though is that almost anyone advocating anything even remotely close to what a reasonable person could claim is white nationalism are National Capitalists with big raging boners for freedom of speech, association, guns, etc.

I could see them advocating for a super hardcore militarized border, but within that border a total near-libertarian country.

nationalism isnt fascist, white nationalism is because only a fascist government could rid the country of all non whites. you think a loberal democracy is going to vote out half its population?

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>euros don't have any problem when peace and prosperity rule
and in the US (richest nation in history) we are more divided than we have ever been since the civil war. And it's because of race, even with all the decadence. When people are struggling financially they can be divided even within their own nation. And besides, no one was talking about leaving the EU in 2008.

>talking seriously about leaving the EU
It was a pipe dream at that point, I mean.

The cult of individualism is but a tool of the technocrats. We indeed have free will, to choose between eternal life with God’s grace, or eternal life without His shelter from the flames.

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You don't have to get rid of them, you can just split the country along national lines, which are fairly well defined. Give the blacks the southeastern states, the latinos the southwest, and the whites the heartland. This way every group has the maximum possible amount of political representation and self determination.

You're barking up the wrong tree Rutger. Try reddit.

Let's all submit to the assprobe glove of an allmighty crossing guard, armed with the Fuhrerprinzip then, shall we?

Uhh... you shouldn't?
Don't embrace identity politics, it is stupid.

yeah even that isnt happening in a democracy or in any system where the people have any kind of power because almost nobody would vote for that

>Individualist ideas and policies will obviously place the best race in the top
Not true. Groups that practice nepotism/identitarianism will dominate over groups that don't in such a society. Only in a world where there is no identity at all, will individualistic policies and ideas lead to a Meritocracy. AKA in fantasy world.
Example, a rich Mormon only hiring Mormons for the top positions in his company while the the Protestants don't care and hire anyone including Mormons - will lead to more Mormons in top positions not based on merit.
Individualism will not make a better tomorrow for Europeans or the world for that matter.

>When people are struggling financially they can be divided even within their own nation
Yes, but that's my point. We've been divided before, and we fought a war over it. We settled the problem at Gettysburg, because people were willing to die for the Union. No one, not one single person, is willing to die for the EU.

>It was a pipe dream at that point, I mean.
Of course it was, because for the past 2 decades things had been going great. A rising tide raises all ships. But the measure of success is not how well you do when things are going smoothly, it's how well you can handle things when they aren't going well, and the euros are proving they can't handle it. No one said "Lets leave the EU" in 2008 because everyone hoped the good times can come back. But they didn't, and they won't.

You think people voted for the break up of yugoslavia? How about the USSR? The roman empire? Nobody votes for these things. They just happen because eventually people get tired of being ruled over by other groups with interests different from their own.

individualism is twisted by the technocrats as they seek to undermine our advantages if they can't eliminate them outright. also the notion that a person cannot have ad value both an individual and collective identity at the same time is simply retarded. how simple are you. you can be yourself while still helping your community its not one or the other.

you want collectivism go to china, but watch you dont get hit by a car, you are just an individual so nobody will help you.

Fpbp

Individualism rises and falls. It's the natural cycle of western history. After decades, individualism becomes degenerate and harmful to society, then collectivism straightens things out, fixes the problems. Only thing is, individualism has fucked things up so hard this time that there needs to be some form of long term collectivism if you want the western civilization you claim to care for to survive. You faggots disgust me, all some of you queers talk about is how great all these values are, but never realize that we would have none of them if not for those before us. Our ancestors are us, thats why identity politics exist. We are the past to those in the future. One day, we will be the ancestors, and I'd like to think we'd stand up for what's right like those in the past had.

I'm not saying drop individualism, I'm saying that without authoritarian control of the racial makeup of white countries, we will become despised minorities on the path to extinction eveywhere we are. Individualism won't help us if we don't exist.

Brazil is already absolutely insufferable and just look at where Canada is headed, leaf.

yeah thats great but if you want to forcibly move half the population around to special reserves thats not happening without an authoritarian rule somewhere because nobody is actually going to want that so someone is going to have to force it, thus implying authoritarianism. so yeah. just speaking in practical terms here. its not like such a move has ever been attempted in human history so im not sure its even logistically feasible but ill leave that argument out for now.

>going through multiple hoops to get the same result
>believing a government that outright says it hates you and wanted to replace you will protect your genes
Nice to know that your nation and most importantly everything that you take solace in will be destroyed in your lifetime

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>yeah thats great but if you want to forcibly move half the population around to special reserves
I didn't say anything about forcibly moving anyone anywhere, least of all to special reserves. Stop strawmanning and actually use your brain, leaf.

>its not like such a move has ever been attempted in human history so im not sure its even logistically feasible but ill leave that argument out for now.
Multinational states have existed numerous times throughout history and they ALWAYS end in breakup, exactly what I've been talking about. Read a book.

>After decades, individualism becomes degenerate and harmful to society,
no, it doesn't become degenerate IT IS MADE degenerate. it is done to us. and then the collectivism, thats done to us as well, and when that goes too far for them to rule over us they flip us back to individualism. but the individualism is risky to them long term, same as collectivism gone too far, so they have to keep switching it up. its not the only deliberately unstable cycle they employ to keep us discombobulated and in conflict with each other. you are being played and led right into the line of thinking they have designed for you.

yeah so restrict immigration to preserve demographic stability like i said. it used to be the normal way immigration was done up till the 50s

What is it with jews and tasteless sexual metaphor? OY VEY THAT CROSSING GUARD IS PROTECTING PEDESTRIANS WITHOUT MY CONSENT

you said they would have special parts of the country where the nonwhites would be allowed to live. correct? you called them nation states of their own within the nation or something like that. i called them reserves, but i guess thats semantics. how you plan on setting that up without moving people around or forcing anyone anywhere i have no idea.

im not talking about multinational states, im talking about moving tens of millions of people around across the country to put them in special places is not logistically feasible. but you wont even admit that is your plan even though it clearly is. i don't think you've thought this through too well