Destiny vs Shapiro

Destiny hasn’t lost a debate yet. Neither has Ben Shapiro. So why won’t Ben debate Destiny? Has he finally met his match? And don’t tell me they aren’t in the same league, Ben did pewdiepies stream

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Ben Shapiro vs a no-name, can't debate random video game streamer

Gee I wonder

>PewDiePie 89 million followers
>Destiny 200k followers

>harvard law grad kike vs manlet washed up zerg player

Destiny is pretty good at debating YT people but Shapiro would win. They're both manlets who have perfected the craft of disingenuous debating, it's just that Shapiro is better and sticks to a few topics.

Ben has nothing to gain from it.

This would be the most annoying debate in history

Why would Ben Shapiro know who Destiny is? Ben doesn’t play vidya.

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Ben gish gallops and overwhelms his opponents with tons of other statements(some tangentially related) requiring them to respond to all of them which allows him to be in control the whole time and control the pace making him the winner by default. When all you're doing is responding back to Ben, you already lost.

Destiny makes good points and can call out all the bullshit when he reviews Ben videos, but ultimately Destiny is a bad faith arguer who gets triggered too easy. He actually lost to Metokur on their first debate.

To be honest the moment Ben tries to overload Destiny with a bunch of shit, Destiny would just ragequit because he's not about playing games like that

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The problem with destiny is he never debates for any point. All of his arguments are focused on legitimizing his opponents points or data. This can seem like he is always btfo'ing them but in reality it comes down to the simple fact that rational men can disagree on the same data. Once this truth is acknowledged you can see how destiny is just preying on people tendencies to follow their own bias and to take his side. ALSO FUCK THIS SLIDE THREAD

>Destiny hasn’t lost a debate yet
>"Shut up Shut up Shut up Shut up"
>Rage quits
hahahahahahaha

Let the manlets fight

This
Destiny doesn't debate the same way regular people do.
He also doesn't have much experience debating people who are smart.

Which debate was that?

This is very true I think the best debate where you can see his trickery is the Nick fuentes debate and the follow up. I highly recommend people watch thru all of that because it is a great teaching moment for how to handle a leftist in any serious debate.

Why would Shapiro waste his time debating some idiot man-child?

Destiny already got BTFO by JF and Shapiro by Cenk Uygur.

"Destiny hasn’t lost a debate yet"

Did we forget that Martin Shkreli had him so far over the table that he had Destiny take an autism test during his discussion?

Also, the "You seem to have strong opinions on a topic you know very little about," line was pretty fucking choice.

Wasn't that Sargon?

>Neither has Ben Shapiro

Ye Olde Jewish lies.

>THIS IS NONSENSE I'M HAPPY TO DEBATE YOU BUT WHEN YOU ASK ME ABOUT ISRAEL I HAVE TO JUST ASSUME YOU ARE ANTISEMITE! LOOK I WON THE DEBATE.

A certified Hollywood kike is your godamn anti-left hero.

Hit him with the ethical CP argument
And then proceeded to say we should airstrike Mexico again
And threatened to kill him because he's a conservative
Then talk about incest
It's like people think I'll kuklinski's ever won a debate got his ass kicked by a if I got you dresses like 1980
He's in Piko getting his ass kicked by a black guy saying World War II ended in 1942
Here's a link to dishonest debating destiny seems to use absolutely every single one johntreed.com/blogs/john-t-reed-s-news-blog/60887299-intellectually-honest-and-intellectually-dishonest-debate-tactics

lol what, Cenk embarassed himself in that debate

Why are so many of you so threatened by Destiny? From what I've seen, he's just very good at calling out peoples' logical inconsistencies, and forcing them to clearly define the terms being argued. When they can't do that, or start tripping over their own contradictions, they sperg out and start screeching about how he's arguing in "bad faith" or resorting to really pathetic feelings-over-facts type stuff.

Ben wouldn't debate unless Destiny paid him.

Link?

Destiny was buttfucked by Ry Dawson and Metokur.

>Why are so many of you so threatened by Destiny?
>From what I've seen, he's just very good at calling out peoples' logical inconsistencies
There, you answered your own question

just cause he finds some people who either don't prepare or are retarded doesn't make him any less insufferably dumb

I lost faith in his intellect after debating Sargon. What kind of subhuman pretends that Sargon was saying that Trump represents the ultimate manifestation of leftism?

I've literally never heard of him.

>Destiny hasn’t lost a debate yet
Bullshit, he got destroyed by a stoner Scotsman

destiny is actually aware of gish galloping and claims he would never let it happen to him, so might be interesting to see how he fares against a professional galloper
but yeah, shapiro likely won't care about him

I think that one was naked ape.

>Destiny hasn’t lost a debate yet.

I saw him get schooled by JF, Althype, and Ryan Dawson. When he's "debating" random dumb dumbs he found on reddit he tends get flustered when talking to people that actually knew their stuff.

Remember when that kid asked Shapiro if Jews were white.

A million upvotes to who knows what Benny Boys answer was.

nobody is threatened by destiny, as that is physically impossible for such a baby bodied degenerate; he has never won any debate, as he's never actually had a proper debate, youtube/twitch "debates" are uneducated unintelligent braindead niggers smearing shit on eachother

here are facts about destiny:
1) he was always a retarded loser as he admitted himself, being an abject failure since childhood throughout school
2) he was a carpet cleaner
3) he gained notoriety in 2012 because when wings of liberty came out he became grandmaster in that game (dogshit game btw) by spamming infestor broodlord, a literal nigger-tier braindead "strat" that took no skill or intelligence; consider that the highest he's gotten in league is plat after being a GM in sc2, tells you how stupid and shit he is
4) because of his GM status, his streams started getting numbers where equally stupid niggers start watching him and donating to him
5) his GM status and sudden audience inflated his ego to such a degree so as to make him think he's much smarter than he is

so now, after decades of being a degenerate cuck retard, after having his ego inflated far beyond what he is genetically capable of, he is trying to make up for his inadequacies (being a tiny bodied weakling, being a brainlet, being a failure throughout his early life, etc) by pretending to be smart on the internet to an audience of braindeads that are impressed by shit gameplay and even worse shit "argumentation" and illogic and his tiny brain only gets more cloudy and dark with the more daily cuck porn he consumes

I like Fuentes but he genuinely and fairly lost those debates. He got baited and wasn't prepared both times. That said.

Is Destiny's point that whites of the same age group as spics commit the same amount of crimes? Doesn't this throw us back a bit?

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>Is Destiny's point that whites of the same age group as spics commit the same amount of crimes?
I'd like to take a look at the data, got any links?

hey did you read this one study that no one has ever heard of before? well, it says that your wrong. now lets home in on trivial semantics for two hours and act like they're representative of greater concepts.

naked ape debate, metokur also wiped the floor with him but that was more utter humiliating than an actual debate

>neocon zionist versus neoliberal normie

Oh gee, what a riveting debate it will be.

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Nah, probably easy to google though.

I couldn't believe it even if I read it so I don't bother but maybe Jow Forums knows bette.r

B E T A

By what metric is a 24/7 video game playing dwarf normaL?

I meant he has basic bitch libtard opinions.

I did not see nicks arguments as unsubstantiated or that he was unprepared. Can you elaborate on some of his weak points from the debate so I can better analyse these type of things.

Pandering to emotion driven brainlets is winning? no wonder liberals are so retarded in USA

They would agree on everything.

If you can't see it yourself you're probably a lost cause. Fuentes got BTFO so hard at the end that he literally muted Destiny (and even tried to make it look so that Destiny went off himself).

But one example is the crime rate thing with the age groups. I don't know if it's really true and I have a hard time believing it, but Nick ltierally pretended to be an idiot just to win this argument, like he doesn't understand how statistics work and that they're relative, completely disregarding it. Maybe he could have had one had he been more prepared, but he had absolutely no good counter argument against the age-group argument, the "why do you want whites to have children if it would mean higher crime rate" that proceeded from it or the Magna Carta argument a the end.

A jew getting into harvard law is like a nigger going to kfc. Shapiro is 5'7.

Destiny is a retard. The only people that think he is smart are even lower IQ spergs that are generally 12.

I was trying to be civil with you but seeing as how you have insulted me. I must conclude you are a black pilled loser hiding behind a meme flag and I must refer you to this

This failed music student turned starcraft player, who was more famous for bm and taking outrageous coaching money from confused kids is now somehow qualified to debate politics?
If anything, maybe he's good at aggressively projecting talking points like that 90% tax rate mutt who basically bullshit her way into the house or senate or whatever.

tbf they're both manlets

I don't think he is smart, just telling you Nick lost that debate and I gave you the reasons why.

gee i wonder
Destiny:
>former carpet cleaner
>studied classical music in college before dropping out
>advocates incest
>advocates sex with minors (which he is guilty of)
>argues in circles, bases his opinions on wikipedia entries
>refuses to commit to a position, instead using words like "maybe, sort of, possibly, perhaps" so he can wiggle out of any argument
>demands that people cite their sources, but only sources he personally deems credible
>if a debate moves towards a subject Destiny doesn't really understand, instead of admitting such, he'll act hurried or bored, like he's "above" the subject at hand.
>estimated 106 IQ
>estimated $350,000 net worth

Shapiro:
>skipped two grades in school
>plays violin and piano
>degree in political science
>law degree from Harvard
>practiced law at Goodwin Procter (top law firm)
>published author (5 books) by big name publishers
>successful columnist, radio, podcast host, youtube creator, with countless mainstream television appearances
>estimated 148 IQ
>estimated $7M net worth, earns ~$1M/year

gee i wonder why they haven't debated yet...

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>destiny
>shapiro
>jf
>sargon
Why are manlets so prone to yapping? Is it an evolutionary strategy?

Destiny would be the kind of brainlet to say that whites and blacks commit the "same amount of crimes." You see this homicide table and you see "white homicides = 5125" and "black homicides = 6444" and you conclude that whites and blacks commit the same amount of crimes, right?

white homicide = 5125
black homicide = 6444

white homicide offenders under 18 = 295
black homicide offenders under 18 = 488

W18 = 5464

So every metric for every age bracket blacks are higher; blacks are higher by 25% overall, 65% under 18, 68% under 22, and 15% over 18. But wait, USA has proportions in its demographics. ~70% white population and ~12% black population. We can make further distinction to get more accurate understanding, but we'll keep it simple. This means that there are 600% more whites than blacks. If whites and blacks really "committed the same amount of violent crime" then the expectation would be equal crime per capita. Blacks commit homicide at a rate 700% (minimum) higher than whites.

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google 'destiny vs jesse lee peterson'

the kid is so sad and cringe. 80 iq righteous black man walked all over him, asks him why he uses a girls name, a stripper name, tells him he is BETA and points out how he talks and acts like a woman when he argues. destiny streams because he is too short to get a job anywhere("sorry pal, we need people to be at least 5 feet tall to work the register here at gamestop")

>Destiny vs Shapiro
battle of the midgets

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The only place I want to see that Jew is in a noose

real talk which is taller and by how much

now I want this debate to happen in person, no podiums

>Destiny hasn’t lost a debate yet. Neither has Ben Shapiro.
By your measure of losing a debate, neither of them will have after debating each other, no matter what position they took. They can't lose according to you!

The Jew would ruin him.
Destiny is an intelligent guy. He hates his conservative parents. So he never grew up. A woman damaged him possibly or he's coasting on the intersectional wave. Poor people need a hero. The one eyed man is king in his sphere
He makes bank. Good for him

Destiny is, in fact, not intelligent at all. He's so stupid he's almost completely braindead. The only thing he's good at is speaking quickly with his stupid fucking lisp.

>Destiny hasn’t lost a debate yet
Destiny is a fucking crybaby nigger who never debated anyone.
He just spills out bullshit points

Stop shilling this manlet you tranny

Neither is Papashiro, as a matter of fact, he is a total nigger like Detsune

It was about Hispanics, not blacks.

I enjoyed him literally shaking. I had no idea that actually happened. Seen it twice, Destiny in some debate and Diane Abbott MP when Jordan Peterson was sitting beside her on QT

the filthy jew is definitely smarter than destiny

Had to rewatch
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I have never seen destiny but let me tell ya , the kike aint smart , he's just very chatty and people think he's something while he's a run of the mill shyster kike with a fake facade and no depth outside of shilling for israhell to dupes on the podium

The south shall rise
but not because of you memeflag
grow a set clown

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JF, hahahah no that potato fucker got made a coward. also no cenk spilled his spaghetti during that debate, it showed so much.

>grow a set clown
double your income, frangelico

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100% bullzai

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Why do shills for Destiny gather so fast?
They're organized on discord or something?

I wonder what percentage of them aren't midgets, 20%?

>Destiny has never lost a debate

Have you never seen how he flips out the moment somebody says something that he finds even slightly controversial or right leaning that he can't just google away?

Jesse Lee Peterson destroyed him last time.

Spala-te la cur, tigane.

Oh nice a bozgor that knows Romanian
Or a ped o midget
:)

Destiny would lose to Cultured Thug or any real Fascist

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>Everyone that I don't like is a bozgor
t. gypsy nigger

Truth hurts

Kek I was right

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>Destiny
>Never lost
WAH YOU'RE RACIST AH BLU BLU fuck off with this absolute retard sub 70IQ faggot.

he's a jew so he'd probably bite if there were enough shekels on the table

>A million upvotes to who knows what Benny Boys answer was.
bolting from the room as he screams "the goyim know, shut it down" into his phone?

Destiny is a true intellectual with a 140+ IQ who has entertained and disregarded right wing beliefs during his complex and nuanced political journey.

Shapiro only debates low IQ college kids.

>So why won’t Ben debate Destiny?

Because it would be moderated by Joe Rogan and broadcast under the title The Battle of Munchkintown.

This. Desticuck tried to argue that an unbiased, first person source was less valuable than a biased third person source.

Jim wrecked his shit.

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yids talk like woman. it naturally makes humans want to kill them

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He got muted because he wouldn't shut the fuck up. Don't even know why that was an issue.

Destiny's whole arguments boils down to dishonesty and borrowing.
Like how incest is not wrong (not he never says right), but with the assumption that the argument can be boiled down to two consenting adults, there is nothing that says that two consenting adults shouldn't engage in sexual activity. So while you agree with the statement of consenting adults, you don't agree with the deconstruction of incest.
>Masturbation is OK, therefor gore should be legal

When someone counters with an argument that follows rationality, he will dissmiss it on the basis that the person lacks the education to be making such a statement and there's no point continuing.
Going after low haanging fruits is easy, and the people he "debate" are unable to catch on.

You realise saying "incest is bad because sex between two related people is bad" is a tautology right? You can't just hold it to be self-evident and expect people to go along with your argument

>two giants in the debating scene
fucking manlets the pair of them.

Seriously?
I don't like Shapiro, but Destiny?
He's a fucking child.
As soon as he looses ground he starts screaming and insulting the other person.
The only thing he's good at, is trying to missrepresent what a person said, by saying "Yeah, when you said "X", what you meant was "gas the jews and fuck toddlers""

Just watch his "Debate" with Jim, what a fucking shitshow.

Destiny is an agent of communist gangster computer God and he shall not be trusted
You have been visited by Francis e DEC
Send me your money and a typewriter manual

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Kek why destiny? He's a groundless mutt larping as a sociopath who wants everyone else to become a sociopathic groundless mutt.

Why does everyone think Destiny is intelligent? He got his ass beat by Sargon TWICE, and if there's anyone shitty at debating is Basedgoy of Mossad. He just throws out 15 shitty points like a toddler scattering toys, and expects you to pick them all up and bring them back to him or you're wrong.

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