Girls only want badboys. Convince me otherwise

weebs aren't incels though.
they are otaku but not Japanese.
there are plenty of weeb girls.
so this isn't really impressive more like normal.

Incel, chad, the terminology doesn't matter so much. The reality is that women are scientifically attracted to the dark triad personality type.

Look at that guy who murdered his pregnant wife and two young daughters. He has women sending him love letters!

Nope, spoken to plenty of girls and they're all the same.

Why are you lying on a Cambodian pipe smoking forum?

Yes, they are all the same in that they don't want to date a disgusting raging autistic incel like you.

Women love narcissistic, sociopathic guys with superficial charm.

Not just me. Plenty of decent guys out there who just want to settle down but they constanly get overlooked because they're not "alpha" enough.

So you're saying I can make it with girls and still have an anime collection. Why did no one tell me this sooner? I thought it was one or the other.

No they don't. Stop lying. You incels are all pathological liars.

You are not decent, you are a basement dwelling neckbeard NEET.

I watch anime with my gf

Wrong, but resorting to insults is the only recourse when schooled by fact.

If you were decent you would not be whining here, you would have a gf. Something about you just turns girls off. Most likely your incel mentality.

I am inspired and motivated by this.

There is no "incel mentality".
Women are attracted to badboys. It's a fact of life. They want guys who are emotionally unavailable, manipulative and superficially charming.

You are a textbook case of the incel mentality. Living in a fantasy world completely disconnected from reality, refusing to accept facts, entitled to the point where you want everything handed to you, angry, blaming everyone else for your own failures.

Why don't you try pushing your interests instead of playing the "nice guy" angle?

I know you've got a flood of excuses and rationalizations about what's proper and how you don't want this or that type of girl, but this is 100% the starting point for determining where you're fucking up.

I have been called some variation of “nice” or “sweet” by nearly every girl I’ve ever spent any decent amount of one on one time.

I remember one girl once called me “the ultimate boy scout” (I have never been in the boy scouts).

I regularly had girls snatching my phone from me to put their numbers in, have had girls drop themselves in my lap and try to drag me in to their bedrooms, had a girl try to eye fuck me and play footsie with me at the dinner table while I was holding my girlfriends hand, another girl once tried to straight up try to shove their hand down the front of my pants

It’s not like I’m a supermodel or anything either, I’m 5’7” (my gf is taller than me), maybe above average looks, not in particular amazing shape (though not obese or anything).

I know plenty of other dudes who are not “bad boys” that have had similar attention put on them (in fact that’s most of my childhood friends, and we grew up playing shit like EQ, WoW, and MtG).

I assure you, “nice” isn’t a barrier when it comes to dealing with women.

What's your secret

You expect anyone to believe this?

Attractive and charismatic plus girls get attracted to guys who already have girls, so once things get rolling there you go.
That's my guess. There's obviously something more going on there.

You are the one who's delusional. You don't want to face the ugly truth about women.

>Mfw an incel knows "the Truth" about women

Was this secret knowledge bestowed along with your wizarding powers?

This

Who's more likely to have the truth, those with Rich dating experience and normal social development?
Or someone who does not, but also is bitter, butthurt, And probably has a huge bias because of their frustration, hmmm?

How'd he do it bros, How'd he land such a qt

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>a guy has a gf and has sex with her
>REEEE LIES
You incels are fucking idiots.

>a basement dwelling incel who has never talked to a girl as an adult knows more about women than men who have dated girls and had sex with them
This is what incels actually believe.

It's been scientifically proven that women go for the dark triad: machiavellianism, narcissism and psycopathy. So yeah, I got facts on my side. What have you got?

It has not been scientifically proven. Why do you keep spouting lies?

Are you a flat-earther too?

Where is your scientific proof?

Do you honestly believe that a high value woman would rather date a criminal than an upstanding man with a career who is confident and treats her well?

You're conflating being an asshole with being confident.
Being confident is essential. Being an asshole isn't great, but a confident asshole is better than a milquetoast "nice guy".

Now hit me up with some more rationalizations and esoteric incel wisdom

How do you explain all the other nerdy guys with gfs then

I havn't read all of the thread so perhaps someone bead me to it. But yes girls want to fuck bad boys, but they marry the good guys. It's cliche as fuck but it's true.

They don't exist because OP's religion forbids it.

This "girls only want bad boys" is some Hollywood idea that has been printed in your brain by media for about as long as this form of media exists.
Real life is not like that. In real life people just fall in love for no real reason. It just happens. Stop trying to figure out everything.

>You expect anyone to believe this?
I’ve posted my story on here enough times over the years that people on here long enough would probably recognize bits of it. I’d have to have one hell of a memory to repeatedly fake so many versions of the exact same story.

>What’s your secret

Short version of a long story:

I grew up with pretty bad social anxiety and depression. It was to the point where I’d avoid going to restaurants, never answer doors, would literally starve/dehydrate myself if there were strangers in the house because I was afraid to leave my room, until I was 18.

Then I got sick of that shit, decided to change. Senior year of HS slowly started ramping myself, talking to teachers, asking questions, just small stuff. I kept the trend going in college. Introducing myself to classmates. Trying to start conversations. Kept ramping up going to parties and just introducing myself to anyone I didn’t know (even if I couldn’t think of anything to say), trying to make small talk. Kept ramping up, going to restruaunt bars after work and forcing myself to make friends with whatever complete strangers were sitting around me.

Bit by bit, over a period of more than half a decade I built up my self confidence and ability to converse and get along with just about anyone anywhere.

Eventually, once I realized how far I’d come that become something I was immensely proud about myself for. It became a rock for me.

Talking to women was just like talking to any other of the hundreds of random strangers I’d talked to over the years. Even so, I lacked one step.

one day I met a girl, I spent about a year getting to know her, and the more I did, the more head over heels I realized I was becoming for her, so I gathered everything I had and decided to put everything on the line.

I did, and I had a moment of glory, until I basically sperged out and blew it.
>continued

>You're conflating being an asshole with being confident.
This right here; most men seem to think women just like assholes but women like confidence who aren't needy.

Guys who are assholes many times just exude confidence and aren't needy.

Also - many guys who think they are nice just tend to be manipulative guys who aren't clear in their intentions.

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After that however, my last shred of fear and hesitation was completely fucking gone. I realized, just like with talking to strangers, this shit isn’t actually that scary. Sure it sucks to get rejected by someone you think you care about, but it’s significantly less toxic and heavy feeling than the “what if’s”you go through when you never make a move.

After that I adopted a no fucks given mentality when it came to talking to women.

I was always perpetually nice and friendly, but i honestly couldn’t give less of a damn what they actually thought about me, or how pretty they were. I’d talked to a lot of people over the years, and went on more and more dates, enough that I realized, they’ve gotta impress me as much as I’ve gotta Impress them, and I’d that doesn’t happen, no big, there’s plenty of other fish in the sea.

That self-confidence I built up over the years just naturally kind of extended itself towards dating, and even fucking up wasn’t that intimidating because I was already pretty experienced dealing with that kind of shit plenty of times over the years. That confidence and ease in pretty much any social situations is probably part of what draws people. And that was something that completely cultured and honed, from basically absolutely nothing.

Exactly.
When a woman hits a certain age she may opt to settle for a career guy for security and comfort. She'll fuck him out of obligation but it's the badboys who get her wet.

This is an incel meme. It actually doesn't work this way in real life.

Not exactly but to a certain degree its true. Just like younger men do stupid shit. Girls like to experiment and do exciting things aswell. Bad boys are exciting. But most girls don't want to actually marry an actual criminal or cheating guy with a drug problem.

Art imitates life.

There is no evolutionary reason a normal girl would prefer to be with someone who takes unnecessary risks, isn't favored by the tribe, or at risk of being gone completely.

The pussy wants what the pussy wants.

Yeah, those High School Musical movies are truly what a regular highschool experience is like. Everyone can relate to those movies.

It has fuck all to do with Hollywood. They push the badboys trope to tap into the female market. Anyone with any life experience knows women are suckers for a handsome rogue

>The pussy wants what the pussy wants
Great rebuttal

And every prescinct has that one hotshot detective who is always getting in to trouble, but you know shit is about to go down and actually be solved when he inevitably has to turn his gun and badge in, freeing him from all the red tape bullshit and allowing him to solve crimes single handedly.

Yup. I’m sure that’s exactly what police *actually* do when I’m not seeing 4 of their cop cars pull over a random bicyclist on the road.

I think the location where you grow up matters. I think the people you socialize with and go to school with matter. You can't just call all badboys pussy magnets. It doesn't work like that. Where I grew up stuff like wealth, background, education and family name was what got you girls.

Because a wealthy/influential man who has the esteem and respect of his community doesn't interest her, right?

That's why we see so many wealthy and beautiful upper class women hanging out in ghettos right?

Allright, I'm confused. What point are we trying to make again or are we all in agreement with each other that movies don't equal real life so the bad-boy trope is bullshit?

Yeah, "bad boys" are attractive to women. Generally younger women.

There are many successful men that got their shit together with many of the same traits that attract women. Confidence, assertiveness, boldness and so on.

The problem isn't that you are a "nice guy" (you aren't) - the problem is that you are a boring pussy. Man up and become an interesting and charismatic guy and things will change

Plenty of women with privileged upbringings have slummed it with trashy badboys - yes.

You guys are gamers 2.0. Rise up!

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All my gf have been japanese though, I thought they hated weebs
I have anime figurines, an anime reaction folder with over 20k pics and I still got gfs.

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My son would probably call the police if his under aged friends were drinking an alcoholic beverage.Sooo not a bad boy. Nicest guy. No edge at all. Has no problem getting girls. Has a girlfriend. Why? He's ridiculously confident.

>All women want badboys
>All women had at least one badboy
>All of the badboy experiences end badly
>Most women had over three badboys
>Most women never learn or don't want to stop
>Most women have settled for stable and nice but leave that relationship when they meet a badboy
>A few, very few, women give up on badboys all together, though the temptation is nearly overpowering and settle for stable and nice.

Even those old ladies you see that are married 40 years will tell you they sampled their share of badboys but alas, it never worked out so they settled

Virtue signaling

Finally, someone not afraid to speak the truth.

Sure explains the pile of love letters serial murderers and kid murderers recieve

straitstimes.com/world/europe/norways-mass-murderer-anders-behring-breivik-gets-hundreds-of-love-letters-a-year

Why do incels call their lies "truth"? Why are you so afraid to admit the incel movement is based on lies?

You’re literally talking about crazies and cultists...

I mean.. if that’s the bar you’re aiming for... go ahead and believe what you want I guess...

Incels are crazies and cultists.

How is your related to the topic being discussed?

Yeah cool
Meanwhile incelbois like me at best can get dog as form of companionship

Maybe its truly time to pull off stunt like Anders

"hurr durr incel" is the only response you have.
Come on, I laid down the gauntlet and asked you ppl to prove women don't want badboys. So far you have failed.

If it makes you feel any better, the ones who actually do that end up old, crazy, and either single or supporting a leech.

It's not as common as you think though. There's more to the guys that they end up with. You just can't see it through your impotent rage towards them.

Fair enough.

Or you could go outside and get a gf.

>make false, retarded statement
>hurr prove it untrue
This is not how it works. But you are beyond logic and facts, you are so deeply indoctrinated by the incel cult your beliefs supercede reality. You are dumber and more hysterical than those women you hate so much.

For something so false and retarded, you're having a hard time refuting it.

>girls don't want a predictable lickspittle

Wow, shocker.

yeah, why would a girl want a loyal guy who will treat her with respect and not mistreat her.
this world is so inverted and fucked up.

Girls would love to have such a guy. But you are not such a guy.

Yes
The rockstar guy with tattooes is sure bet though
Entire band is even better, at once

No they wouldn't. Guys like that don't get their motor running.

Guys like that easily get girls. Why do you continue lying?

It seems to me that you're putting too much weight into the notion of an objective truth (which you think you have).

You can take your data about letters sent to serial killers or whatever, and say "look, this proves that women are attracted to psychopathic bad boys!" and others will look at that and say "outliers and crazy women". There are many ways to interpret the facts. Some ways give you an Elliot Rodger mentality while others give you a healthy worldview with which you can interface with the world and get along with others.

There's no Truth to your interpretation and your truth isn't my truth. However we can say that your truth leads to bad outcomes (for you) while the others truths itt lead to much better outcomes (being a normal well-adjusted person who experiences sexual relationships). Take it as you will, and best of luck on mending your broken psyche if you choose to do so.

I think you are replying to the wrong person, I am not the incel.

Mine statement if from experience. If you spoke to women honestly they will admit this and some of them are ashamed and call themselves foolish and stupid but fall into the trap again and again.

Its rare but does happen that a woman falls once and learns her lesson. There are some that fall for a blatant badboy, it ends badly as it always does, they take a hiatus from men, then meet a clean cut man and make an assumption that makes them decent but "there's just something about him". Well that something is just badboy with a nice wrapping but they don't realize until it turns dark. They may have ended a very stable relationship for this guy and they will regret their capriciousness but the stable decent guy is already gone.

Guys only want crazy girls. Convince me otherwise.

You literally have no experience with women. Your "experience" is based on incel memes.

Fuck, you might be right.

That is correct and we warn eachother about them

But crazy pussy is the best there is
The risk doesnt have to do with it tho, just the fact they are so passionate about it it outweighs the risks

You're fucking wrong, way off.

I am right. Fuck even my old grandfather talks about crazy pussy back in the day was best.

So its not a leap for women to gush a river of pussy juice for badboys either.

So the secret to being attractive is just being fucking crazy?

I never thought about it this way before

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No, not so fast. If she fat and crazy she's still fat but take heart there are a shit ton of fine looking crazy as fuck girls. In fact the pretty ones have had every swinging dick after them for so long they have fallen for every fucked up trap a badboy lays. Every time they get dumped, thought they thought their beauty would keep the guy, they get crazier. Hell, the most beautiful goddess I ever knew would fuck anybody if you took her for drinks or told her she was pretty. She was batshit crazy and threw a brick through my bedroom window.