The jews were gassed and the holocaust happened

>47 operational ovens at auschwitz
>capable of disposing of nearly 140K people a month
>No use for this amount of disposal equipment for "typhus" which was under control by 1944.
>aerial photos of all the extermination facilities
>some of the photos have visible burning pits.
>photos show the drop vents for the zyklon b pellets


How come people think the holocaust didnt happen? I know wehraboos get really mad because they like building tiger tank models but what exactly is the point of denying hard history when you really dont gain anything from it?

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literal picture of bodies being burned in pits that still exist on site

>bu buh ghost mysteries show train crash

the photos were published in the 1950s

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full resolution picture

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photograph from the ground of the krema 2/3 facility drop vents.

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photo from the air of same facility

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Document mentioning a word that is very important

"Vergasungskeller"

"gassing cellar"

full translation of the document:
Except for some minor construction work, Krematorium II was finished by working with all our available forces day and night, despite inexpressible difficulties and freezing weather. The ovens were fired in the presence of the senior engineer Prüfer of the executing firm, Topf and Sons, Erfurt, and they are working faultlessly. The reinforced concrete ceiling of the morgue could not yet be eliminated due to the freezing weather. However, this is not significant, as the gassing cellar can be used for this purpose.

Due to the railway car prohibition, the company Topf and Sons could not deliver the aeration and deaeration equipment at the time demanded by the Zentralbauleitung. After the aeration and deaeration equipment arrive, however, installation will begin immediately, so that presumably by February 20, 1943, it will be completely ready for operation.

Enclosed find a report of the inspecting engineer of the firm of Topf and Sons.

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>buh typhus

you dont use hydrogen cyanide to delouse human beings.

Auschwitz already had delousing chambers for clothes at the center of the camp. Where as the krema facilities were designed explicitly to kill incoming trainfuls of jews.

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kys spammer

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Vertical blueprints of the krema 2/3 facility

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>where is the ash

In the river that was right next to the camp and the gardens and fields surrounding the camp of which there were hundreds of square miles

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>In the river that was right next to the camp and the gardens and fields surrounding the camp of which there were hundreds of square miles
I take it you would know where I can go to source that claim?

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Document ordering gas tight doors.

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oh look another jidf thread

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Why did they install screen doors and glass windows in an air tight gas chamber?

Wouldn’t it be easier just to shoot them?

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If i gave you a source would it matter?

Here are some bones that pop out of the ground every spring around sobibor. Its well known in history circles. Not so well known in neonazi infograph circles.

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>If i gave you a source would it matter?
It would prove that you had it

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none of that debunks anything

Its well known that auschwitz was a labor camp for factories. Its also well known it has the most advanced extermination complex with a railroad that ran straight up to them for new arrivals.

Can run a factory if you gas your housed prisoners. But the new guys arriving on trains are pretty good for throwing in the chambers.

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Reminder that German soldiers on the eastern front were starving almost as badly as the prisoners in the camps in late 1944.

Too much fuss is made about proving or disproving the Holocaust story. To me, there are only a few questions that matter:

1. Was Germany legitimately betrayed by her Jewish population during and after WWI?
2. Did Jews declare a global trade war against Germany, a nation whose new currency was based almost entirely on trade and industry, prior to WWII?
3. Did Germany have an inalienable right to defend their economy, their nation, and their people from all existential threats?

If the answer to the above three questions is "Yes", and I believe it is, then how many Jews died, and of what, is irrelevant.

Too late, Herschel.
The goyim know.

Don't forget to sage, y'all.

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This picture is a fake and it is of a disaster in another country.
There were not 47 ovens at Auschwitz there were 21 at the highest number of ovens but there were less than that for a lot of the time. 21 ovens cannot cremate hundreds of thousands per month kys liar.

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So the workers were well taken care of?

Work will Set you Free?

get a better version

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I mean you can literally read anything on the camp and it will tell you that.

Im not sure which source you want when all of them say this.

>this picture is a fake

no its not see dipshit

That's what I thought

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Source your info kike so you have at least some standing. Let me say this the holocaust did happen, at most 1.2 million Jews died at the hands of Hitler but so what? It's not the first genocide nor the last.

>21 ovens

no

47

Where they operational all at the same time? probly not. Some even broke down. But the fact remains that no camp would need this many cremation ovens unless they dealt with massive amounts of dead that are well outside of typhus lethality

Pic related. document taking a huge dump on you. Single day body disposal numbers

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>>group on the way to gas chamber

Could literally be going anywhere.

>When your people are killing and torturing humans at a rate IMPOSSIBLE and even has the IMPOSSIBLE task of removing the corpses to locations that don't exist and decades later people are finding peaces of corpses new and old on land and claiming them as holocaust corpses when in reality they are either planted evidence or after the war, all to hide the fact that no mass graves were ever found...

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Wow and it all happened in a stage prop that was built after the war by Communists and to people who look like they were born in the 1950s.
How fucking stupid are you?

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
The National Socialists only won because the Weimar Republic existed to begin with.

>two thirds of Americans still ignorant

Yes it literally has been debunked retard. Why would you build an argument around proven forgeries?
Also I noticed you didn't address any of my other points because you got fucked in the ass with truth. You are a liar. Auschwitz had less than half the ovens you claim and basic math disproves the holocaust. Kys lying rat.

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they're americans, give them more time

oh well we actually have animated recon photos (photos of areas were taken in a series during ww2 so they could be turned into 3d steroscopic image , if you look at this images in sequence you can animate them)

Large groups of people being led into the krema 2 and 3 facility. Anywhere from 300-500

they are not going "anywhere" they are going into these buildings which have one purpose.

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The math is indisputable even with 47 ovens thats only 686,200 bodies if they were running 24/7 which you admit is likely not the case.

FAKE AND GAY
>FAKE AND GAY
FAKE AND GAY
>FAKE AND GAY

Don't forget to sage, boys.

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>its been debunked

no it hasnt. people say its from a ghost stories show about a train crash in ohio

problem is the photos have been published for half a century and ohio doesnt have concentration camp wire from auschwitz lining the railroad.

People latch onto that dumb story because the photos are so damning it levels any argument on whats going on in said photo.

There was no gas chambers, the ones shown in the museum are fake replicas.
There were never real gas chambers to be ever found.
The Holohoax is an extortion industry, nothing more, nothing less.

Yes, to dispose of the dead. They were likely sonderkommandos.

Another possibility
>be Jewish serial killer
>hide bodies in designated holocaust mass graves so goyim can't dig
>even if they did, bodies would be ID'd as holocaust victims
The perfect plan

Cool.

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Holocaust Denial is just a meme here, we're only "denying" it for shitposting purposes - for satire, to scare of and shock normies and newfags such as yourself. We know it happened (gas chambers, crematoriums, 6 million etc.).
You do realize that there isn't one (1) Holocaust denier standing today that hasn't already been BTFO - whether they were caught lying or completely misrepresenting their sources. From Irving, to Cole, to Rudolf, to Mattogno, to Faurrison, to Zundel, to Weber.
Even Eric Hunt has retracted most of his claims.
Irving doesn't even deny gassings anymore - have a look at what he say about Operation Reinhard.
youtube.com/watch?v=WIdjRJMyByY&bpctr=1536416337

Please lurk more before taking obvious bait in future.

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the math is often done wrong by deniers because they make assumptions.

the first assumption they make is that a body has to be burned alone for an hour before a new one is put into the oven. We know this isnt true because many sonderkommando commented that within 20 minutes of putting a body in the body would have mostly burned into a clump and there was enough room to put a new body in. Increasing efficiency of the amount of bodies per hour

Another fact we learned from the sonderkommando is they didnt put one body in the ovens. They put several in at a time


You account for this math and you get exactly what it says on this official document. Which is around 4700 people burned a day

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Fucking Metal!

21 is the max number of them running simultaneously due to logistics dumbfuck.
Playing devils advocate, let's say 47 we're going simultaneously the whole time than the total number possible cremation goes to 14,600x47 if they were running the same, didn't need maintenance, the bodies were put in the oven instantly and the ovens were as fast as modern ones.
600,000 is the max amount of cremations possible with perfect conditions, no maintenance magic ovens, teleporting bodies etc.
You claim 140,000 cremations a month are possible but you can't show the math like I can.

So where are the bones teeth and bodies faggot?
Kys rat.

>(((memeflag)))
>"Jow Forums is one person"
>"the Holohoax was real, goyim!"

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dispose of what dead? the photo was taken in 1944. The typhus epidemic ended in winter of 44.

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I want to belive

>the ability to doctor photos didn't exist
Kys kike
>damming any arguments
You claimed Auschwitz had the capability to cremate 140,000 bodies a month, you have no credibility faggot.

>due to logistics

no logistical argument can be made that somehow 21 is the number of ovens being operated but not 47

I already conceded the fact that not all 47 ovens are operating all all times because of things like repairs. But your number is literally half which makes no sense.

Which also halves the number of dead at the camp from 1.2 million (official number) to 600,000

so you are basically just confirming the math that not only was this possible , but the math checks out exactly. You are just moving goal posts of how many ovens were working

Wait so how many people died in Auschwitz again? Can you cite me the total number and the source of this number?

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>they had photoshop in 1944
no

>auchwitz had the ability to burn 140k a month.
I didnt say that , the document to hoess did right here

Zyklon b was bugspray to rid them of lice. Show pictures of all the ovens. This number is important.

That's when the starvation was in full swing across most of the front and in the camps.

Damn dude, theres like 15 bodies there in that photo... sad

I've personally looked up cremation times and even today with one body it is a 3 hour process. To produce 4700 in a day that's 195 an hour. With 47 ovens you would have to stack at least 4.15 bodies per oven every single hour nonstop. I also would like to know why the first eye accounts are so outrageous with the masturbation machines and electric floors. Also why were the Nuremburg trials subject to such strange rules for evidence.

>They put several in at a time
>I don't know how ovens work : The Post

>>they had photoshop in 1944
>no
You think they didn't have a way to alter photographs while we were building nuclear bombs?

Stalin literally photoshopped his son out of existence. "I have no son named Yakov."

>thats when starvation was in full swing in most of the camps

huh?

The "starvation" happened in large numbers in 1945. This was in 1944 when the soviets were getting close to the camp. They liberated the camp in january of 1945.

You dont even know the timeline and you are throwing things around like "starvation"

I wish you were right but it’s just not possible

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fuck you kike, people dont believe this bullshit anymore and dont give a single fuck how much you dirty jews cry about it.

>it takes 3 hours to burn a body

no it doesnt lol
the oven burns at like 1400celcius where the fuck is the body going to get the thermal resistance to deal with that for 3 hours?

You do if you dont have ddt, which they allegedly didnt have. Zyklon b from what ive seen is not fatal for humans. Usa used zyklon b on beaners in california ffs.

>removing somebody is the same thing as putting complex scenes together

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How do we know those are even human? Have these been tested?

>zyklon b is non fatal to humans

its hydrogen cyanide

This guy is just as retarded as those flat earthers

Unconvincing.

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Meh, the wooden door at Auschwitz is hilarious.

I simply don’t believe you, because cue bono

I didn't say photoshop Stalin literally had trotsky and his son removed from photos that look legit.

You literally said they had the ability to cremate 140,000 regardless if you were quoting it or not and I showed you with math that is impossible so obviously your document is a lie or forgery.
So once again where are the bodies or teeth?
You have no answer you're getting raped for being a liar.

Fucking retard, take your meds

>have they been tested

yes

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Maybe I fucking do know the timelines and you are some college faggot with no knowledge of military history. The Axis were in collapse by the time they were retreating from Ukraine. Little food was getting where it needed to go. Much less to a bunch of kikes.

holy shit could you be more transparent and glow in the dark?

What did they put in the picture in place of what they removed?

More so, flat earthers are funny. This guy wants to give my homeland to beans and niggers, pump my kids full of estrogen, and insists I pay him for the privilege.

I don’t give a shit if it did happen, he should be more worried about it happening

>the wooden door

funny enough one of the famous wooden door pics has the air tight steel door right in the picture

Its funny when people bring up the wooden door and forget that the steel door is right next to it

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Why do you have to make shit up, user?

I work in a modern crematorium and can categorically state you're wrong. On average it takes about 2-3 hours sometimes higher if the person is fatter because water weight increases that burn time a lot. It takes at least an hour and a half before there is enough space as the bones haven't been done yet, they still sometimes have to be ground down at the end of the whole 2-3 hours.

If I added another body during this it would only make the whole burning time even longer than if I just did them after each other.

It works like a basic cooking oven, the more shit you put in the longer it will take to heat up and retain that heat.

Dude none of this evidence even shows anything, youre insane. You’re literally stretching every angle to try to cling to this view that muh white male is evil and muh jews are the victim. They own all the media and all the politicians. Get it through your head, lol hello!

An average human body takes from two to three hours to burn completely and will produce an average of 3 to 9 pounds (1.4 to 4.1 kilograms) of ash. The amount of ash depends usually on the bone structure of the person and not so much their weight [source: Ellenberg]. A newborn, which has mostly cartilage and very little set bone, might not even leave any remains after cremation.
science.howstuffworks.com/cremation1.htm

see how i attached a source to my claim

A shop is a shop kike.

They didnt have photoshop. They had photo shops. Retard

And the usa used it on mexicans in california. Its safe and not an effective way to kill people

>i work in a modern crematorium

1. No you dont
2. Even if you did it doesnt change the science.

You have to heat up the oven for every use. This could take a long time. The burning quality is different since you are presenting the remains to the family.

all of these have massive effects on burn times.

All sonderkommando report the bodies would be gone within about an hour and they would be adding new bodies withing 45 minutes.

Anyone ever read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer? I just started it, and was under the impression it was red pilled on the JQ. So far it bends over backwards to defend or totally leave out anything the Jews did. Is this worth the read or is it just more of the same Jews good hitler bad?

Yeah and the source was one guy who was talking out of his ass.

How long does it take to cremate a body?

It’s natural to be curious about this. The cremation itself usually takes bettween one and a half and three hours. Cooling, collecting and preparing the ashes for the family usually takes another one or two hours. The ashes are then carefully placed in a temporary container for collection.

beyond.life/help-centre/arranging-a-funeral/how-long-does-cremation-take/

GOD BLESS BRITAIN, based af lad.

Safe enough to not be an effective way to kill millions of people anyways, theres way better ways.
The zyklon b meme is just as retarded as the holocoaster meme or masterbation death machines or death by tickling.

>see how i attached a source to my claim

your source is irrelevant considering modern crematoria are not burning bodies to destroy them but to present a fine ash to the families. Something that takes a long time for the bones to burn up completely. They are also doing it from a cold oven.