>47 operational ovens at auschwitz >capable of disposing of nearly 140K people a month >No use for this amount of disposal equipment for "typhus" which was under control by 1944. >aerial photos of all the extermination facilities >some of the photos have visible burning pits. >photos show the drop vents for the zyklon b pellets
How come people think the holocaust didnt happen? I know wehraboos get really mad because they like building tiger tank models but what exactly is the point of denying hard history when you really dont gain anything from it?
full translation of the document: Except for some minor construction work, Krematorium II was finished by working with all our available forces day and night, despite inexpressible difficulties and freezing weather. The ovens were fired in the presence of the senior engineer Prüfer of the executing firm, Topf and Sons, Erfurt, and they are working faultlessly. The reinforced concrete ceiling of the morgue could not yet be eliminated due to the freezing weather. However, this is not significant, as the gassing cellar can be used for this purpose.
Due to the railway car prohibition, the company Topf and Sons could not deliver the aeration and deaeration equipment at the time demanded by the Zentralbauleitung. After the aeration and deaeration equipment arrive, however, installation will begin immediately, so that presumably by February 20, 1943, it will be completely ready for operation.
Enclosed find a report of the inspecting engineer of the firm of Topf and Sons.
you dont use hydrogen cyanide to delouse human beings.
Auschwitz already had delousing chambers for clothes at the center of the camp. Where as the krema facilities were designed explicitly to kill incoming trainfuls of jews.
>In the river that was right next to the camp and the gardens and fields surrounding the camp of which there were hundreds of square miles I take it you would know where I can go to source that claim?
Here are some bones that pop out of the ground every spring around sobibor. Its well known in history circles. Not so well known in neonazi infograph circles.
Its well known that auschwitz was a labor camp for factories. Its also well known it has the most advanced extermination complex with a railroad that ran straight up to them for new arrivals.
Can run a factory if you gas your housed prisoners. But the new guys arriving on trains are pretty good for throwing in the chambers.
Reminder that German soldiers on the eastern front were starving almost as badly as the prisoners in the camps in late 1944.
Ryan Hall
Too much fuss is made about proving or disproving the Holocaust story. To me, there are only a few questions that matter:
1. Was Germany legitimately betrayed by her Jewish population during and after WWI? 2. Did Jews declare a global trade war against Germany, a nation whose new currency was based almost entirely on trade and industry, prior to WWII? 3. Did Germany have an inalienable right to defend their economy, their nation, and their people from all existential threats?
If the answer to the above three questions is "Yes", and I believe it is, then how many Jews died, and of what, is irrelevant.
This picture is a fake and it is of a disaster in another country. There were not 47 ovens at Auschwitz there were 21 at the highest number of ovens but there were less than that for a lot of the time. 21 ovens cannot cremate hundreds of thousands per month kys liar.
Source your info kike so you have at least some standing. Let me say this the holocaust did happen, at most 1.2 million Jews died at the hands of Hitler but so what? It's not the first genocide nor the last.
Brandon Davis
>21 ovens
no
47
Where they operational all at the same time? probly not. Some even broke down. But the fact remains that no camp would need this many cremation ovens unless they dealt with massive amounts of dead that are well outside of typhus lethality
Pic related. document taking a huge dump on you. Single day body disposal numbers
>When your people are killing and torturing humans at a rate IMPOSSIBLE and even has the IMPOSSIBLE task of removing the corpses to locations that don't exist and decades later people are finding peaces of corpses new and old on land and claiming them as holocaust corpses when in reality they are either planted evidence or after the war, all to hide the fact that no mass graves were ever found...
Wow and it all happened in a stage prop that was built after the war by Communists and to people who look like they were born in the 1950s. How fucking stupid are you?
Benjamin Flores
1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Yes The National Socialists only won because the Weimar Republic existed to begin with.
Dominic Cook
>two thirds of Americans still ignorant
Gavin Thomas
Yes it literally has been debunked retard. Why would you build an argument around proven forgeries? Also I noticed you didn't address any of my other points because you got fucked in the ass with truth. You are a liar. Auschwitz had less than half the ovens you claim and basic math disproves the holocaust. Kys lying rat.
oh well we actually have animated recon photos (photos of areas were taken in a series during ww2 so they could be turned into 3d steroscopic image , if you look at this images in sequence you can animate them)
Large groups of people being led into the krema 2 and 3 facility. Anywhere from 300-500
they are not going "anywhere" they are going into these buildings which have one purpose.
no it hasnt. people say its from a ghost stories show about a train crash in ohio
problem is the photos have been published for half a century and ohio doesnt have concentration camp wire from auschwitz lining the railroad.
People latch onto that dumb story because the photos are so damning it levels any argument on whats going on in said photo.
Logan Young
There was no gas chambers, the ones shown in the museum are fake replicas. There were never real gas chambers to be ever found. The Holohoax is an extortion industry, nothing more, nothing less.
Elijah Johnson
Yes, to dispose of the dead. They were likely sonderkommandos.
Julian Garcia
Another possibility >be Jewish serial killer >hide bodies in designated holocaust mass graves so goyim can't dig >even if they did, bodies would be ID'd as holocaust victims The perfect plan
Holocaust Denial is just a meme here, we're only "denying" it for shitposting purposes - for satire, to scare of and shock normies and newfags such as yourself. We know it happened (gas chambers, crematoriums, 6 million etc.). You do realize that there isn't one (1) Holocaust denier standing today that hasn't already been BTFO - whether they were caught lying or completely misrepresenting their sources. From Irving, to Cole, to Rudolf, to Mattogno, to Faurrison, to Zundel, to Weber. Even Eric Hunt has retracted most of his claims. Irving doesn't even deny gassings anymore - have a look at what he say about Operation Reinhard. youtube.com/watch?v=WIdjRJMyByY&bpctr=1536416337
Please lurk more before taking obvious bait in future.
the math is often done wrong by deniers because they make assumptions.
the first assumption they make is that a body has to be burned alone for an hour before a new one is put into the oven. We know this isnt true because many sonderkommando commented that within 20 minutes of putting a body in the body would have mostly burned into a clump and there was enough room to put a new body in. Increasing efficiency of the amount of bodies per hour
Another fact we learned from the sonderkommando is they didnt put one body in the ovens. They put several in at a time
You account for this math and you get exactly what it says on this official document. Which is around 4700 people burned a day
21 is the max number of them running simultaneously due to logistics dumbfuck. Playing devils advocate, let's say 47 we're going simultaneously the whole time than the total number possible cremation goes to 14,600x47 if they were running the same, didn't need maintenance, the bodies were put in the oven instantly and the ovens were as fast as modern ones. 600,000 is the max amount of cremations possible with perfect conditions, no maintenance magic ovens, teleporting bodies etc. You claim 140,000 cremations a month are possible but you can't show the math like I can.
So where are the bones teeth and bodies faggot? Kys rat.
Benjamin Diaz
>(((memeflag))) >"Jow Forums is one person" >"the Holohoax was real, goyim!"
>the ability to doctor photos didn't exist Kys kike >damming any arguments You claimed Auschwitz had the capability to cremate 140,000 bodies a month, you have no credibility faggot.
Aiden Ramirez
>due to logistics
no logistical argument can be made that somehow 21 is the number of ovens being operated but not 47
I already conceded the fact that not all 47 ovens are operating all all times because of things like repairs. But your number is literally half which makes no sense.
Which also halves the number of dead at the camp from 1.2 million (official number) to 600,000
so you are basically just confirming the math that not only was this possible , but the math checks out exactly. You are just moving goal posts of how many ovens were working
Carter Robinson
Wait so how many people died in Auschwitz again? Can you cite me the total number and the source of this number?
>auchwitz had the ability to burn 140k a month. I didnt say that , the document to hoess did right here
Aiden Garcia
Zyklon b was bugspray to rid them of lice. Show pictures of all the ovens. This number is important.
Julian Jenkins
That's when the starvation was in full swing across most of the front and in the camps.
Henry Roberts
Damn dude, theres like 15 bodies there in that photo... sad
Caleb Collins
I've personally looked up cremation times and even today with one body it is a 3 hour process. To produce 4700 in a day that's 195 an hour. With 47 ovens you would have to stack at least 4.15 bodies per oven every single hour nonstop. I also would like to know why the first eye accounts are so outrageous with the masturbation machines and electric floors. Also why were the Nuremburg trials subject to such strange rules for evidence.
James Edwards
>They put several in at a time >I don't know how ovens work : The Post
Anthony Carter
>>they had photoshop in 1944 >no You think they didn't have a way to alter photographs while we were building nuclear bombs?
Jason White
Stalin literally photoshopped his son out of existence. "I have no son named Yakov."
James Bailey
>thats when starvation was in full swing in most of the camps
huh?
The "starvation" happened in large numbers in 1945. This was in 1944 when the soviets were getting close to the camp. They liberated the camp in january of 1945.
You dont even know the timeline and you are throwing things around like "starvation"
fuck you kike, people dont believe this bullshit anymore and dont give a single fuck how much you dirty jews cry about it.
Liam Miller
>it takes 3 hours to burn a body
no it doesnt lol the oven burns at like 1400celcius where the fuck is the body going to get the thermal resistance to deal with that for 3 hours?
Colton Robinson
You do if you dont have ddt, which they allegedly didnt have. Zyklon b from what ive seen is not fatal for humans. Usa used zyklon b on beaners in california ffs.
Camden Lewis
>removing somebody is the same thing as putting complex scenes together
I didn't say photoshop Stalin literally had trotsky and his son removed from photos that look legit.
You literally said they had the ability to cremate 140,000 regardless if you were quoting it or not and I showed you with math that is impossible so obviously your document is a lie or forgery. So once again where are the bodies or teeth? You have no answer you're getting raped for being a liar.
Maybe I fucking do know the timelines and you are some college faggot with no knowledge of military history. The Axis were in collapse by the time they were retreating from Ukraine. Little food was getting where it needed to go. Much less to a bunch of kikes.
Carson Johnson
holy shit could you be more transparent and glow in the dark?
Jayden Morales
What did they put in the picture in place of what they removed?
Aaron Hernandez
More so, flat earthers are funny. This guy wants to give my homeland to beans and niggers, pump my kids full of estrogen, and insists I pay him for the privilege.
I don’t give a shit if it did happen, he should be more worried about it happening
Aiden Edwards
>the wooden door
funny enough one of the famous wooden door pics has the air tight steel door right in the picture
Its funny when people bring up the wooden door and forget that the steel door is right next to it
I work in a modern crematorium and can categorically state you're wrong. On average it takes about 2-3 hours sometimes higher if the person is fatter because water weight increases that burn time a lot. It takes at least an hour and a half before there is enough space as the bones haven't been done yet, they still sometimes have to be ground down at the end of the whole 2-3 hours.
If I added another body during this it would only make the whole burning time even longer than if I just did them after each other.
It works like a basic cooking oven, the more shit you put in the longer it will take to heat up and retain that heat.
Owen Bennett
Dude none of this evidence even shows anything, youre insane. You’re literally stretching every angle to try to cling to this view that muh white male is evil and muh jews are the victim. They own all the media and all the politicians. Get it through your head, lol hello!
Logan Jones
An average human body takes from two to three hours to burn completely and will produce an average of 3 to 9 pounds (1.4 to 4.1 kilograms) of ash. The amount of ash depends usually on the bone structure of the person and not so much their weight [source: Ellenberg]. A newborn, which has mostly cartilage and very little set bone, might not even leave any remains after cremation. science.howstuffworks.com/cremation1.htm
see how i attached a source to my claim
Luis Clark
A shop is a shop kike.
Aaron Nguyen
They didnt have photoshop. They had photo shops. Retard
Jayden Phillips
And the usa used it on mexicans in california. Its safe and not an effective way to kill people
Tyler Thomas
>i work in a modern crematorium
1. No you dont 2. Even if you did it doesnt change the science.
You have to heat up the oven for every use. This could take a long time. The burning quality is different since you are presenting the remains to the family.
all of these have massive effects on burn times.
All sonderkommando report the bodies would be gone within about an hour and they would be adding new bodies withing 45 minutes.
Caleb Nelson
Anyone ever read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer? I just started it, and was under the impression it was red pilled on the JQ. So far it bends over backwards to defend or totally leave out anything the Jews did. Is this worth the read or is it just more of the same Jews good hitler bad?
Brandon Sullivan
Yeah and the source was one guy who was talking out of his ass.
Jeremiah Evans
How long does it take to cremate a body?
It’s natural to be curious about this. The cremation itself usually takes bettween one and a half and three hours. Cooling, collecting and preparing the ashes for the family usually takes another one or two hours. The ashes are then carefully placed in a temporary container for collection.
Safe enough to not be an effective way to kill millions of people anyways, theres way better ways. The zyklon b meme is just as retarded as the holocoaster meme or masterbation death machines or death by tickling.
Lincoln Cox
>see how i attached a source to my claim
your source is irrelevant considering modern crematoria are not burning bodies to destroy them but to present a fine ash to the families. Something that takes a long time for the bones to burn up completely. They are also doing it from a cold oven.