Tfw the US didn't ally with the German empire during world war 1

>what's a false flag

You did it on pearl Harbor

You did it in Texas back in 1845

You did it with the Maine

You did it on 9/11

etc.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconia_incident
TL:DR Amerifats expose their own war crimes trying to nail Admiral Doenitz

Don't forget tonkin bay and WMDs, even today when Assad "gasses his people"

Thanks for admitting all your arguments are bullshit and it's just your own bias in charge of your brain.

Meanwhile germans make up a massive share of american whites, including the president assfucking liberals you on the reg.

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Ww1 germany brought a lot of pain on themselves with how belgium was treated. Kinda laid the seeds for ww2 because allies didnt have to embellish the truth to show the germans were villainous in their behavior.

They fucking shot belgian people trying to flee across the dutch border. Shot them like livestock.

>Germans are massive share of population
>Borders are just as porous as Der Fatherland
And you wonder why I hate germans

>Pearl Harbor
Fucking elaborate this one

>Germany tried to convince fucking Mexico to invade the United States to recover territory lost in the Mexican-American war. Look up the Zimmerman telegraph
You're naive as hell if you think the Zimmerman telegraph was real.
For fuck sake, have you read the text of it?
It reads like a Brit pretending to be a Kraut.

>Heh, we sunk your merchant ships bitch
>Heh, we killed innocent American civilians bitch
>Heh, we never listened to you when you told us to leave you alone bitch
>Heh, we asked Mexico to attack you in case you join bitch
>Oh what? You're actually going to join? Pfft, BFD you can't do shit
>WTF WIR DINDUEN NUFFEN! GOTT STRAFFE AMERIKA! REEEEEEEEEEE

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This is a funny episode;

Mexico was to be a German ally in WWI under President/Dictator/pseudo-Monarch Porfirio Díaz.

Porfirio already had a healthy military and Mexican economy was being prepared for a war in Europe and quite possibly america, but suddenly the jew Francisco I. Madero, yes he was jewish, arrives from San Antonio TX with a huge ton of money and American military coaches to overthrow the dictatorship in the name of (((democracy))) but instead backfired and Mexico was kept in a state of absolute chaos for 20-25 years until WWII when we could finally fight in a world war!!! on the allied side...

Before Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Iraq and Venezuela there was Mexico

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But the jerry guy admitted it was a legit message.... why?

Basically the USA had broken the japanese cypher and knew the attack was coming but FDR wanted a casus belli for war Americans would rally behind. Thats the claim anyway

That’s one hell of a claim to make without providing evidence

The Japanese did attacked pearl harbor, but the US intelligence was aware of the coming attack, they evacuated healthy equipment and personnel and only left rusty equipment and cadets, such a great pretext to enter a war

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>we sunk an ocean liner with prominent Americans on board
America was warned in advance about the Lusitania
"Four days before the "Lusitania" sailed, President Wilson was warned in person by Secretary of State Bryan that the "Lusitania" had six million pounds of I ammunition aboard, besides explosives, and that the passengers who proposed to sail on that vessel were sailing in violation of a statute of this country, that no passenger shall travel upon a railroad train or sail upon a a vessel that carries dangerous explosives. And Mr. Bryan appealed to President Wilson to stop passengers from sailing upon the "Lusitania." "
"The genesis of the world war"
by Harry Elmer Barnes
archive.org/stream/genesisofworldwa00harr/genesisofworldwa00harr_djvu.txt

its amazing how many dumb people post on this website

>You did it in Texas back in 1845
Nice historical inaccuracy Paco. Maybe learn some history, you were the one who allowed whites to move in because land grants were expensive for the average Mexican. Not to mention you barely did shit with them AND you invited the immigrants under a Republican government, not an empire/monarchy when Santa Anna usurped the throne. Not to mention you lost and world powers recognized Texas independence and you have ZERO say what an independent country does, including voting to be annexed by another. Let's not forget who started the Mexican-American War, too.

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I’m not claiming it because I don’t believe it that’s just what some believe you asked for clarification

You’re right I did ask for clarification, I wasn’t asking you personally for evidence

So the Americans didnt arm and ready their anti aircraftequipment, didnt evacuate their limited supplies of destroyers, didnt carefully prep the scene to limit casualties, and just let it happen?

FDR was an asshole but it doesnt even make sense.

US backed regime change has been a cancer in geopolitics for a long time.

>But the jerry guy admitted it was a legit message.... why?
You don't find it at all suspicious that the Brits were the ones who intercepted the Telegram?
Not to mention that around 1917, there was an anti British sentiment in much of America.

they never asked?
britain hardly wanted our help, we were practically fair game to whichever countries diplomats sent us a friendly letter first
germanys own damn fault they didn't want us

It only makes sense if America was looking for an excuse to enter a war. Which backpeddles a bit on the isolationist policy that was in effect during that time.

The claim is he wanted Americans to be so disgusted by the surprise attack war was the only option. There is the fact the most important part of the fleet, the carriers were luckily out to sea when the attack happened. Had those been lost at Pearl it would have effectively neutered the Navy.

America was isolationist FDR was really not so much isolationist

Isnt it just as possible the germans just fucked up? Zimmerman admitted to sending it. Full stop. He admitted it.

Now why the british knew about it isnt a mystery, they've been involved in spying and intercepting for a damn long time. Theres a reason why serious diplomatic mail for Brits are often sent in person by people with handcuffed briefcases and military backgrounds, because they know how easy it os to intercept digital and analog communication.

based and tejas-pilled. we should kick the shit out of the failed narco state again and wage war on the cartels

Here’s a site with information claiming FOIA requests shed light that FDR knew about the attack before it happened.

>you were the one who allowed whites to move
This is true, but these "whites", I prefer to call them anglos, behaved like fucking niggers, you brought your pet slaves to Mexican territory while slavery was banned from the beginning, and abused the turmoil in Mexico after the fall of the 1st empire, which btw was brought down by Joel Poincett.

Decades of receiving propagandist, logistical and military support from the US bought those cheap Texans, It is awfully weird that Texas wanted so hard to be independent and then just got bored and vote for annexation, like cheap whores.

>Not to mention you lost and world powers recognized Texas independence
European powers mainly, you know why they did it? They asked Mexico to recognize the Texan independence because it would lead to a Mexican-American war, the euros where afraid of the US unprecedented growth and the least thing the wanted was for Mexico to be conquered and dominated by them, this issue became evident when France intervened in Mexico two times to stop American growth

>Let's not forget who started the Mexican-American War, too
Convenient

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Come redpill these fags.

>Mexico preparing for war in Europe and quite possibly america
Mexico provided a handful of soldiers and airmen to the Allies, but other than expropriating US property in 1938, hoping we lost so you could get back Aztlan and providing braceros to pick our food, wets Eisenhower had to kick out after the war, Mexico did jackshit in WWII.

independent.org/issues/article.asp?id=408

yup, right now we could use some Porfirio in Mexico, but it wouldn't last

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All he had to do was ring up the dept of the navy and tell them to be on high alert and ready the guns. They'd get the attack they wanted and he could show that the world war was coming for us whether we liked it or not. He didnt need shock value. Japanese being so aggressive was shocking in itself, we had over twice the population, way more industry, way more resources, and a much larger ground army.

>Zimmerman admitted to sending it. Full stop. He admitted it.
You've never read what he said have you?
It's not easy to find, and for good reason.
Zimmerman believed that Wilson had forced Germany into a tough situation when the US broke off diplomatic relations.
He viewed the discussion with Mexico as a last resort /in case of/ American involvement in WWI
Notice the emphasis, in case of.

Fucking Jews man. Jesus.

h-hey, but we send like, 5 plains to pacific r-right ameribro?

Yeah I'm pretty sure FDR didn’t know no one would risk their fleet like that on the off chance America could comeback from those losses but the conspiracy continues to have it’s supporters

Besides, I find the move quite reasonable, that Stalingrad thing was a close call

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Man these goalposts are going to be in outer space by this time tomorrow. So it went from "telegram is British larp" to "telegram was rational act if desperation". The telegram was stupid, and germany should've sued for peace the moment the push for Paris failed

Ah and I forgot a very important detail
Arthur Zimmerman helped send Lenin back to Russia
And was one of the German Ministers that heavily pushed for peace with Lenin's Russia after the Romanov's were massacred.

>you brought your pet slaves to Mexican territory while slavery was banned from the beginning
You allowed it because it was a huge cash cow to your failed state
>Brought by an American
No, it was brought by your own incompetence, you have always been a failed state. Coup after coup is the reason you failed and your Constitution was literally the US one just translated into Spanish
>Got bored and got annexed
You literally stated you would reconquer them and made a failed attempt at invading them. Not to mention Texas was broke, it had zero money. Annexation was the only viable path to prosperity.
>Euros
Yes they were concerned with American growth, but none of them thought the Mexican-American War was a bad thing, if anything they were glad we won

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>The telegram was stupid, and germany should've sued for peace the moment the push for Paris failed
Dude you're such a retard.
Krauts aren't stupid enough to think a country like Mexico could actually conquer the Southwest by force of arms.
Pershing and Patton were busy creating military doctrine in Mexico at the very same time.
Do you really think the Krauts didn't know this?
Nothing about the Zimmerman telegraph makes any sense.

Hey guys remember that time Germany lost two world wars and then was occupied for basically 44 years? Good times.

>Hey guys remember that time Germany lost two world wars and then was occupied for basically 44 years? Good times.
Both World Wars were a mistake.
And I hope the leaders involved rot in hell.

The Christmas Truce of WW1 gives me sadness I never knew I could feel about history

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Back when Brits, Germans and even the fucking French were still Christians with somewhat similar cultures.
The 20th century did more damage to the world than most know.

>it was brought by your own incompetence
I do not deny our fault in the process, but you cannot deny the way you took advantage
>you have always been a failed state
The empire had a future, a future your imported freemasonry destroyed, we call freemasons "anglófilos" (anglophilliacs), a 30 years advantage is a huge one, you had your shit together, after any kind of civil war there's turmoil, while you had yours there was no neighbor that could have taken advantage of you
>your Constitution was literally the US
Imposed by the US, the only legitimate Mexican constitutional document is the "Plan de Iguala/Tres Garantías", considered by many a marvel of political work, but forgotten and unused
>Texas was broke, it had zero money.
>Implying they couldn't foresee this
K.
>if anything they were glad we won
Yeah, that's why France, UK, Spain, Aus-Hun and others financed, helped and participated in the two Napoleon's III campaigns in Mexico

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>why would the British intercept it
Its like being at war with another nation makes you more likely to intercept their communication to see if they can see what they are planning. God you Kraut lovers are insufferable Jews.

You mean the Jews did.

>no Integralism
Gay pic tbf

>Being this naive
You fucking retard.
Gobble up the narrative your shitty government funded education gave you.

good goy

>Thinking Krauts aren't stupid
>Krauts start wars that benefit nobody but (((them)) due to sperging out due to the fact they got punished for the last time they started another unnecessary war
The day the Kraut is exterminated and remembered as the Jew loving savages they were, the better this board will be

the Zimmerman note was a fuck up. But the main point of how it was used by the united states to justify declaring war on Germany. In reality, I highly doubt that mexico would've invaded the united states. It was just used by the Allies to get america to send their soldiers to europe to be used as meat shields in their dumb war.

Bankers in the united states by 1917 desperately needed the US to enter the war. since they lend the Brits so much fucking money

"The committee reported that between 1915 and January 1917, the United States lent Germany 27 million dollars, and in the same period, it lent to the United Kingdom and its allies 2.3 billion dollars, almost 100 times as much. These payments were made during wartime: July 28, 1914 – November 11, 1918."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nye_Committee

Anyone citing the zimmermann telegram and the Lusitania as justification for the united states to go to war with german are just uneducated retarded faggots