*diverts your river*

It's the water wars. Everybody knows that China needs to keep Tibet on a leash because they need the water. It's part of how to pit India against China.

>Why the memeflag?
I'm a monarchist and since there's no monarchist flag it kind of amuses me to use the flag of the ideology furthest from monarchism.

Based
I would unironically prefer absolute monarchy to the mess of lying and pettiness (along with high low against the middle alliances) that comes along with multicentred, decentralised, diffuse, networked, informal, insecure, hidden power (aka liberalism/democracy).
Chinks have never been anything but kind to me (other than a cab driver who stole my bag in Xinjiang, the cheeky otter). You're a better ally to me than a good deal of white people.

Thank you for your kind words, and although I appreciate it I'm not sure if it's wise to consider me an ally based solely on my political ideology here... Not knowing anything about you apart from you being an (assuming white) Aussie with an interest in canals and your disdain for liberalism/democracy I would not represent myself as your ally.

That being said, what is your preferred source of legitimacy in a monarchical system? Mine's theocratic.

Basically the same. Hereditary monarchy supported by theocracy. I don't consider it a perfect system, but the increases in efficiency and the removal of bickering from everyday life would be based. Hereditary because any non-arbitrary system of succession would just encourage rebellion and contention, and genetics is a not-terrible way of doing it.

Supported by religion, rather. Perhaps with the two blurring together, Chinese style (and warhammer 40k style).
Btw, I could easily see the West ending up with the above system, although what exactly the brand would be I'm less sure of. Perhaps it might look like early Catholicism, or a new paganism. Who knows. People last election voted for a god emperor and others cheered for various candidates for kind/queen on game of thrones. Imho the people long for monarchy, absolutism/neoabsolutism as a political framework is becoming a lot bigger among intellectual types, it would be entirely possible for a genuine religion to emerge, and the decentralisation of power has gotten to a point where I think people are tired of it. Even leftoids are extremely mad about foreign influence in government (aka liberalism).

*early German Catholicism (holy roman empire etc.)

Which theocratic model do you prefer? From your desire to avoid rebellion and contention, is it something like the Divine Right of Kings in the old-school European style?

I personally lean toward the Mandate of Heaven style myself with its built in 'escape clause' of necessary rebellion against a monarch who has lost the Mandate. That way the monarch is aware that should they fail their duty to the realm and the people they face the risk of being removed.

Woops, this is what I get for not updating. Not sure how well the Warhammer 40k one exports to IRL with that immortality bit. I suppose the technology may well improve to a point where a monarch's life could be sustained indefinitely, and if he is of sufficient ability then succession becomes moot.

I'm not very familiar with the Holy Roman Empire form of theocratic monarchism. Did it differ significantly from the later European theocratic monarchy variants that emerged in West Europe (Spain, France, and England)?

I pretty much like the Chinese model, but I expect that if/when the Western version arrives it will be unique to the West.
Maybe it will turn out to suck, but there will come a point in the current arrangement where the current arrangement can't suck more.

I'm not hugely well read on the subject. Afaik, there was a general emperor who steered things in certain directions, with a fair amount of local rule, and the pope/religion legitimised it.
The Warhammer example was not that serious, but more an example of how absolutist/monarchist thought is already alluring to large numbers of Westerners.

>I'm not hugely well read on the subject
Well, what you've said here is far more than I knew about it. Do you know if the Holy Roman Empire model had the same 'monarch as the defender of the faith' clause that the West Europeans had?

As far as the role of the pope goes, in your view would it be better to have the monarch _also_ serve the role of highest clerical authority? Or should they remain distinct and separate roles?

This is a very good question to pose, as it's one of the fundamental differences between the remnants of the Western and Eastern halves of the former Roman Empire.

*Water* Free Tibet.

take accept the reference you bag of trash
this is why people filter you

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I don't know.

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Nonetheless, twas a good discussion, user! Always great to meet another monarchist in this day and age where everyone assumes 'democracy' as the baseline. Hope you have a good weekend!

>Do you know if the Holy Roman Empire model had the same 'monarch as the defender of the faith'

Yes.

"I will be the protector and defender of this holy Roman Church in all ways useful to her, however many, in so far as I am supported by divine assistance according to my knowledge and ability."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronation_of_the_Holy_Roman_Emperor

Thank you for the link!

I remember talk about the Chinese doing the same with the Ganges river.

I can see India and China going to war over this if China goes ahead with this. There is a similar situation with Egypt and states upriver.

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Water Wars are beginning. fresh water is the resource to fight over in the 21st century. africa, south america and asia will all see conflicts about it.

You too.

I just find the idea of hijacking an entire river hilarious.
It could give China mad propaganda in terms of helping out the people of Xinjiang.
I assume they could also say it would prevent flooding in Bangladesh (if they can control the output). The improved tunnelling technology developed and the publicity could also cause Russia to start tunnelling in a big way (the method they need to link various parts of Russia in a more cost effective way than land transport would be underground canals that stay warm throughout the year [assuming massively improved rail technology is not forthcoming ).
It could also open up ideas like making the Australian desert green by diverting water from north (monsoonal) to centre (desert) or from the East side of the Great Dividing Range to the West.
Or even up from the wet southern corner of Western Australia north.

Why are so many online maps in German, particularly of Asia?

>rivers of india dutch.png

This is exactly what China fears about Tibet. If they set the precedent, it could be the start of a new conflict over the plateau. And if America gets involved it would disastrous for China.

>Australian desert green by diverting water from north (monsoonal)
God I hope that can be done.

>I just find the idea of hijacking an entire river hilarious.
Well, hopefully it'll be a wake up call for the Indians so they take playing catch up as seriously as indulging in corruption and toilet avoidance.

aral sea was dried because uzbekistan needed water to grow cotton. they still use the water that could refill the sea for irrigation

chinks simply want to steal water from india

So are the Tibetans going to finally kick some chink ass for freedom or are they going to die?

you mean it would leave bangladesh with its crazy high population and small territory with even less potable water

also as for tunnels, they are expensive af, i recall when i visited japan i was surprised how they dug a tunnel where we would make the road climb those hills, with the size of russia we don't have much resources to dig tunnels, i seen more tunnels in fucking vietnam and china than in russia

Who has the stronger military and greater desire to wipe out he other, Jow Forums?

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It will be like a "Zerg vs Zerg" match. It's going to be interesting seeing how this all plays out.

"yellow river is flooding"
the dragon's belly will drip

what was that prophecy?

Jow Forums and chinksectoids are going to defend this

>Jow Forums
>defending insectoids
nah probably not unless they are one of those tech zombie fag crispr idiots.

Nice gif. Princess Mononoke was an absolute treasure.