Ritalin usage. Recommendations, usage, alternatives, stories

I actually don't know where to ask this. I'm 31, 300 pounds, and I've had ADHD. I haven't taken ADHD medication in probably close to a decade, or at least 6 years or so.

I can't fucking focus. I've had so much trouble getting anything done at all, so bad it's not even a joke. A constant inability to focus and get anything I want done. Others can "direct my lightning" and I can do good, but when it's just 100% up to me, like me at home nothing gets done.

It's been getting bad lately, after a bunch of days off where I mostly spaced out on youtube, Jow Forums, Porn/ERP and games.

Something needed to be done, and I thought I'd try taking Ritalin once again. Sofar, I got a bunch of 20 mg of the brand name.

Day 1 I took one and I was okay.
Day 2 I worked and everyone said I was a bit different (I think more on task? they didn't say but said there was a difference)
Day 3, today I took 20 mg at 10 am, spaced out and zoned out on YT on phone as I normally do until I took another 20 mg at 4 pm, and I just took another 20 MG at 10 pm. I've been feeling I've been having this minor, slight headache...that comes and goes. Not enough to stop me but enough to make me notice it. It's honestly making me kinda worried. Maybe I'm just dehydrated (I ate some sodium filled perdue chicken nuggets, that was my main meal today), I dunno, and thus I'm here asking all of you.

That's my experience taking it again sofar, what do you all know, think, advise, and likewise.
I wish there was a non-medical/pot way to treat my ADHD, but I don't know if such exists...

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*on day 2, I took two. One before my shift started and the second in the middle of it 5 hours later. the 4/5 hour effect cycle wore off about a hour or so after I got home.

Wow user I'm sorry to hear that. Have you considered fucking off and killing yourself?

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I always hate seeing fags say what I'm about to say but you need to lose weight bro.

I think I have ADHD at well. Took immediate release but just for school purposes where I need to get stuff done. Remember, when there is a change in personality you need to stop taking the meds. Only take that stuff when absolutely needed.
Honestly I'm debating on having a written schedule of things to do to keep you on task. My dad and grandpa had one and to be honest that might be where I get ADHD from. So my advice is to set a written schedule in a marble notebook you buy in elementary school and write down the day before of what needs to get done, do it every day for the rest of your life. To start out your day drink a cup of warm tea that doesn't burn your tongue to give you some motivation to complete those tasks. Caffeine is good at altering your mood when you feel somewhat down and why not change that mood into a happy mood in the beginning of the day? Accomplishing tasks will give you joy when you cross it off your list

300 lbs but how tall are you

Not well written. Took adderall immediate release

5'11 I think. Maybe 6 feet, or between the two.

That I do know. It's been one of the many thing I've slacked off on. The Eternal "I"ll do it later" Part of me thinks maybe getting my act together might help me get on my treadmill (that's set up in front of my TV) that's collecting dust.
That once I get the ball rolling it'll all fall into place.. or at least that's my hope. I'm totally unorganized in chaos.

I know you're not actually asking, but to answer it's actually no. Never have. Closest I ever got was when I took that damn publix generic. It made me super depressed and I couldn't even focus when I was under it's effects. Tossed that shit and never looked back.

Thank you for the advice. Like I said in my day 2, any chances seem to be very slight in my behavior and actions and I don't feel different (sans that one time above)

The schedule is something I need to do, but I get so damn lazy on it. Sloth is my biggest sin I fight. I can so easily space out, forget anything important, and enter into a lethargic state where nothing happens.

We need to take down big pharma.

im trying to do a lifestyle change as well user, it's almost like "losing" if that makes sense. You gotta kill a part of yourself that you dont want to, and im not even sure ill be able to but feel good about making a difference.

I believe in you user because I believe in myself.

Whatever you do remember it's not a race, its not even a marathon it's just doing things differently.


And if I could get a script for vyvanse it would help a lot, that shit is magic.

Switch to adderall and lose some weight fat fuck.

Look into gut health and brain inflammation. Go to a naturopath, doctors are shit at dealing with this stuff

Jow Forums IS NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL ADVICE.

That said, you should lose some weight. I suggest the easy, healthy way. Pic related. Then begin to exercise by taking a half-hour walk each day (unless you want to do something more intense).

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Okay fat fuck get off your gaming chair that isn't meant for fat fucks like you and start considering your own health. Go to the gym for an hour, go 5 days a week. Can be light like using machines or treadmill just do something with exercise. First 3 weeks is the absolute worst to put that in your routine but you will get the hang of it unless the way your job complicates with timing. Being obese will have health complications later in life I guarantee it.
Only take the stuff when you need to accomplish tasks for your job.
I think that notebook will help you out with coordinating your day to minimize leisure time. It sucks but to be a more successful human being don't waste too much of your time. I wish I can easily apply this management of your time thing with me cause I need to get my shit together as well. Buy a marble notebook tomorrow, buy 3.

It's kinda like evolving as a human being. It's hard to put the stuff away the gives you comfort but in reality how much of that consumes your life and where you should be applying that to.

Yeah...I do need to lose weight. Won't deny that.

In terms of making a schedule, my job kinda gets in the way of that. It's pretty much random button for my shifts, and when they set me to close it messes with my sleep schedule (get out at midnight/1 am). Hell, trying to get just constant Saturdays off is a challenge.

How do I make my schedule when nothing is fixed and all is random?

I believe in you too dude, we'll make it. I want to shed this lazy inefficient things, and do all the things I know I can do

But why do you two recommend a different ADHD drug?

What does Adderal and Vyvanse do that Ritalin doesn't?

I stopped playing PSO2 lately, decided to take a break till the next major expansion and I'm noticing that... but then I still squander all my free time anyway. Hell, I might have been better off if I did. "Don't go to the movies so you can study, but fail studying and you didn't see the movie." type problem.

Ritalin is meant to be taken 3 times a day at a maximum of 60mg combined.

Try 10 (1/2 a tablet), 3 times a day and see how that goes for a couple of weeks.

Exercise using an elyptical to avoid shattering your ankles.

The exercise will wake up your mind and allow you to sit quietly and do things.

Note taken, thank you. I'll focus on that moreso.

My ankles are fine though, I genuinely do not look how much I weigh. It's still supporting 300 freaking pounds, but my body is doing a decent job given the situation.

But I know I have a fatty liver, this situation won't last. I either evolve or perish.

My feet and Carpel tunnel are the two things I'm most worried about. (I think I got it via a car accident, never felt the numbness in my hands till after that)

>Massive fucking blocks of text
>Took 60mg Ritalin
>At 10 fucking PM
>Gais r i spun?

Drink some water. Try to sleep, and take advantage of the appaitite suppression

Take it from me that on adderall you don't even need to think about losing the weight. I'm not going to say it's healthy or the 'right' way, but over the course of about 2 years on it I went from 290 to 215. No going to the gym, no nothing.

Now I do go to the gym and actually have a healthy diet because I've just become disciplined. I promise you that losing the weight will increase your quality of life like it did mine so my suggestion is to lose it at whatever cost.

I actually didn't get the last line there. "Gais r i spun?" (I feel like I either block of text or reddit space. *laughs*)

Drinking plenty of water, at least since I started this topic. I will try to sleep in about a hour or so at 3 or 4 am, I... don't like the idea of me sleeping while this medication is active. That and when I shake my head I feel discomfort/headache-y

Because of the reduced appetite? The more I think about it, the more I noticed this development. Felt like I could eat constantly.

Another thing I'll note. Thank you dude.

You lose weight on amphetamines because it boosts your metabolism.

The direct opposite of anti-psychotics that make you gain weight.

>You lose weight on amphetamines because it boosts your metabolism.
Amphetamine and analagous drugs act as appetite suppressants. People eat less on ritalin.

I take ritalin as I'm self medicating for suspected ADD. Fuck giving a jew psychiatrist nearly $600 to "allow me" to take ritalin. Adderall was too intense and long lasting for me.

tl;dr OP is a fat fuck sperg

wtf Australian flag? my doctor told me adult cannot have adhd its impossible

Your doctor sounds like a retard mate.

If you have a random work schedule join a 24 hour gym preferably between your workplace and home. Then make it a goal to spend one hour in the gym directly after work before heading home. Once you get used to it you will appreciate the relaxing nature of your exercise session and you can use it as a 'wind down" from work. Then you can go home take a shower and get comfy.

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(my last two doctors weren't Jewish actually)
Is being able to get it not-through doctors a aussie thing? I don't think there's a way I can just order it without a prescription, since it's a controlled substance.

No, it's possible. Adult ADD/ADHD is absolutely possible and does occur. People with less severe cases of it, like my sister, overcome it when they reach adulthood and it's no longer an issue. Others find coping means, and then there's people who it still effects.

I can't remember if I was considered to have a serve case or it or not. Dunno.

That sounds costly. But really my main worry would be 1) after a long day, 2) A need to take a massive poop after work 3) if it's late. Midnight/1 am, working out till 2? that genuinely feels weird.
But on the other hand, I do have a treadmill in my apartment that I could use instead.

well everyone i know also told me adults cant have adhd

Sounds like your making a lot of excuses. Losing weight and changing your diet can be a overwhelming step at first so I understand. If you don't want to exercise you can lose weight be diet alone (exercise just helps). Start counting your calories and get a rough estimate of what you've been consuming in a day then google "TDE calculator" and find out how many calories your body burns in a day then set a daily calorie limit for that number -200 to 500 calories. It really is that simple you just have to want it. Goodluck mate wish you the best, you can do it

It helped me do a double major in cs and EE. Also you get rage/depression side effects that are brutal.

Get it from the black market or friends or something. Doing it the "right" way will cost you thousands.

Sounds like you're absolutely surrounded by retards mate.

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Shutup kike

No one ive met in 20 years believed adhd exists maybe its a QLD thing

Don’t take medical advice from Jow Forums

They’re wrong. ADHD is a hereditary condition, mostly genetic. It’s a lifelong deal.

Queensland is full of retards mate.

but my doc wont give me amphetamines ive never been capable of focus

Stimulants like Ritalin are appetite suppressants. I find that I eat when I am bored, and that I do this a lot less on adderall.

You should take your medication in the dose that your doctor recommends. It will hopefully help you lose weight and make you feel better. Getting back on your ADHD meds may actually make your life a lot better.

Ritalin sucks. Try adderall.

Adult onset ADHD is a thing. ADHD is always present. If you missed being diagnosed as a kid it’s hard to get diagnosed as an adult.

Have you tried caffeine, nicotine, or pseudoephedrine to help you focus?

Thank you.
Googled it now and did that test without filling in the body fat percentage. 2,805 calories per day it says to me.

Is there any way I can fill that blank without buying a I'm gonna get a blood test done soon (testing my liver levels, been a while and I ought to know). Any way I can fill that blank without buying a body fat calipers, or can I find that number via said blood test?

>Based on your stats, the best estimate for your maintenance calories is
2,805 calories per day based on the Mifflin-St Jeor Formula, which is widely known to be the most accurate

Nose or not that's damn impressive. Congrats on the degrees and being able to focus like that to accomplish that much. Did you have ADHD/ADD or just took it to help? This stuff does a number to your liver.

Not here in the states. There are many things I don't trust, but hell or high water I wouldn't trust a street dealer. You know they mess with the drug.s or homebrew shit. And it's Florida, I ain't trusting those "dealers" nor do I want to risk Jail-time and mess up my life.

You're partly right. I think my parents both had undiagnosed cases of ADD/ADHD, but they overcame it. They're both very good at bringing will to action. Same with my sister with her climbing multiple corporate ladders.

Yep! But I still ask cause I don't know where else to go, and also some of this is non-medical advice. Sofar, I've gotten some good advice and info from this thread.

That's what I hope. At least the training wheels so I can get myself into a routine and won't need the ADHD meds anymore / lesser. Like said, it hits the Liver and I need that.

nicotine helps? huh? And what's pseudoephedrine?

Why do you think that?

Well. I read Timothy Treadwell's book a few years back. He had ADD as well and his life was unbelievably screwed up. His solution was to quit civilization and go live among the grizzly bears in Alaska. He writes that whenever he was out there, all his mental problems seemed to completely clear up, and he gradually got his life back in order. Interesting book.

He did end up being killed and eaten by a grizzly eventually, after like 15 years of doing that, and then Werner Herzog made a documentary film about him.

I don't know if this is useful info. For what it's worth, I will say that in my case, if I can walk somewhere quiet and naturelike for a few hours, all of my confused thoughts gradually order themselves into something coherent, and I have a plan when I get back to civilization.

Use less internet and visual media.

> take amphetamines, write wall of text

Concentration is a learned skill that takes practice. The bigger a faggot you are, the more practice it takes. You literally have to slowly grow more neurons in your frontal lobe. Vigorous exercise and intermittent fasting help with neuronal remodeling via mtor1 inhibition, btw. Also vigorous exercise and daily fasting improve executive function, decrease emotional responsiveness, and increase norepinephrine levels.

I'm on Concerta and I can't read or play any video games without it.
Improved my life tremendously

With Ritalin I would recommend to avoid caffeine, drink a lot of water and force yourself to eat.

>I've been having this minor, slight headache...that comes and goes.

I recommend supplementing with a lot of fish oil, keeping hydrated and eating regular meals. I would have ritalin headaches regularly if not for this.

Go to your doctor and tell him what your problems are in detail and what you want from treatment. There are many reasons that might be causing your problems.

Are you in school? Tell him in detail what is wrong. “I can’t focus” is not enough.

“I sit down to study and I can only work for a couple minutes and then I forget what I am doing. I get really anxious and start noticing things around me like noises or pictures on the wall. I feel really guilty for not studying but I can’t seem to make myself no matter how hard I try. My grades are falling behind.”

You may just need to see a learning specialist who can help you.

If you feel very tired when you try to sit and study, and like it is very boring and you cannot focus no matter how hard you try, you might have a sleep disorder.

Maybe you are not eating enough. If you have a disorder like celiac disease you may feel foggy and fatigued and hungry all the time from not getting enough nutrition.

You need to tell the doctor a specific problem that is hurting your life, and ask him what he can do to make your life work the way you want it to work.

Imagine this:
>“I can’t read the blackboard in school, so I can’t take notes. I have been getting bad grades as a result and I want to get good grades.”
>The doctor tests your vision and you have 20/100 vision.
>He sends you to an optometrist.
>Your intraocular pressure is high.
>You have glaucoma
>The optometrist writes a prescription for glaucoma eyedrops
>Your vision improves
>You can read the blackboard
>Your grades improve

You may have gone to the doctor saying “I need glasses” but it was wrong. “I need glasses” is functionally the same thing as saying “I want to see better” but in other situations, going to the doctor and telling him what you think the solution is can lead him down the wrong path, or in the case of controlled (read: fun) substances, make him think you are a drug seeker.

> Do less of the two main things you do
Again, more right then I'd like. Like how my tv is on bloomburg right now (Why? dunno)
I'd have to take a drive to go to someplace (not too far) to really get into a bit more foresty area. Everything here is kinda suburbs. But I do understand. Thanks for the story and note.

Yeah, I've kinda lost that skill over the past few years. I know what I have to do, my issue is just doing it, to regain it.

Caffeine - I don't like coffee, only take it for the caffeine.
Water - I'm noticing that. I think that plus the perdue cold chicken nuggets is what caused this weird head feeling
Eating - I'm 300 pounds, that ain't an issue.

I got Fish oil here, does it go good with sleep or should I just wait till morning?
Again, yeah I need more water.

Thank you for the advice.

Thank you everyone for talking to me, I think I'm gonna go get ready for bed and go to sleep. You all have a great day.

i cant study i cant even follow conversation everything is a blurr if that makes sense

Didn't see your post.

Also you're right on sleep, I have Sleep Apna. I got it a few years ago. Got too fat.

> “I sit down to study and I can only work for a couple minutes and then I forget what I am doing. I get really anxious and start noticing things around me like noises or pictures on the wall. I feel really guilty for not studying but I can’t seem to make myself no matter how hard I try. My grades are falling behind.”
That sounds WAY too close for comfort.

I'm 31, I stopped going to college cause I kept failing and realizing it was blowing all my pell grants on nothing (aka, the above getting worse). Did go back and get a AA two years ago though, realized I was a few classes short and went, "sure why not" It did give me hope.

The doctor who's prescribing it... I don't fully have faith that I can have such an exchange with him. The previous doctor I had I pretty much could just tell him what I wanted and he'd give it, or I go there, sit down, talk about life for a minute or two before he writes me a script.

I thought I was going back to him but instead I got sent to a new doctor. He's a young Asian doctor, I got some faith he knows more of what he's doing. I would love a learning specialist and a lifecoach, but I can't really afford such a person.

>You need to tell the doctor a specific problem that is hurting your life, and ask him what he can do to make your life work the way you want it to work.
I will talk to him about that.

Scarringly yes. I've done that, had chats which I don't remember too well. Especially doctor visits, those tick me off it just slips out of my fingers. "We had a good talk?" "what did you talk about?" "I uh...can't remember."

Alright, time to get ready for bed. Might answer something

How has it hurt your life?

Can you name some specific things you want to do that you can’t do?

*answer something when I'm in the middle of getting ready for bed, before I shut the computer down.

the only peace i feel is from drinking heavily and no its not the booze that caused the problems i was completely fucked before i even touched alcohol

ive never been able to study i was yelled at almost daily for not being able to do homework cant follow conversation i find everyone boring i cant read books i found my job so boring i couldn't follow instructions i Found math far too boring to learn so i didnt learn it my father was bribing me money to learn it i still didnt

strap a bomb to yourself and blow up a black church

>That's what I hope. At least the training wheels so I can get myself into a routine and won't need the ADHD meds anymore / lesser. Like said, it hits the Liver and I need that.
Don’t be afraid to use it as a weight loss aid. It’s a legit use of the drug. The longer you are on ADHD meds living a functional life the less you will need them because the brain rewires itself.

Nicotine makes you more alert and helps you focus. Pseudoephredine is sudafed. People use them to self-medicate for undiagnosed ADHD commonly. Vaping a neutral flavor is the healthiest way to go (nicotine still raises blood pressure and blood lipids, without the smoke).

So the problem is you couldn’t pass your classes and keep your job?

>Cartman
>Fat
>Can't focus
>Waste of life unti directed by others
>I have a medical problem see I'm taking drugs
This is why healthcare is expensive. You need discipline and a goal you lazy fat fuck. Get out your house and scan the horizon for a mountain, if there are none keep going until there is. Once spotted move one foot in front of the other until you reach the top. If you still have ADHD by that time, throw yourself off the top of that mountain.

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>I'm 31, 300 pounds
Get liposuction

Are you being treated for sleep apnea? Having your sleep apnea treated makes it easier to lose weight.

Go fuck yourself. Healthcare is expensive because insurance bids for doctors to be their network rather than doctors bidding for patients to see them.

Health insurance is expensive because the government mandates no limit on lifetime expenditures

>discipline
i was physically beaten continuously what more can you do to discipline a kid

Based

The shills are out in full force in this degenerate thread. Fuck you all, every one of you pro Adderall, lack luster, obese, wastes of life. Pathetic, all of you. Shameful display, honestly. How did we go from men in ww2 to this. What a black pilled state we are in. No wonder women are acting up. I'm disgusted by this, really. It's an ocean of faggots in here.

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>Abuse is discipline
Never change abbo.

>Use less internet and visual media.
I should add, the reason I suggest this is because I think they train your brain to be more ADD-like. Flitting rapidly between scenes with little context... The ability to instantly switch to something else when you get a little bored... The relative lack of additive productive change in environment caused by one's own efforts (there's probably a reason why they have criminals do gardening work to calm them down and train their brains to be productive)... Our brains were evolved to deal with the rhythms of real life, not with these modern equivalents of heroin for the mind.

Kek, it sure has nothing to do with every fat fuck in the country getting medically treated for laziness hahahaha

>not beating is real discipline
>beating is truly the only form of discipline that works!

Discipline is doing what you need to do when you need to do it regardless of your feelings of pure laziness and gluttony. Don't you have a child to ignore or beer to drink or maybe a car to steal you filthy abbo?

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>Scarringly yes. I've done that, had chats which I don't remember too well. Especially doctor visits, those tick me off it just slips out of my fingers. "We had a good talk?" "what did you talk about?" "I uh...can't remember."
a few years ago i was suffering from depression and burnout and had the same issue. i forgot the topic of a conversation while it was happening. i forgot my neighbor waiting at my door when i went inside to get sth. for him. i forgot my gloves when riding my motorbike, then i became angry and then i forgot what i was angry about...
felt like fucking memento. the worst thing was to loose faith in my own judgement. "did i miss something? did someone say something? whats going on right now"

ended up in months of sertralin use, and the removal of a lot of distractions, like television, gaming, mobile internet on the phone, and so on. spent a lot of time on my motorbike and in the nature. i think its necessary to get out of the gridlock that your life is, make a hard cut and start anew. my 2cents...

addforums.com is worth visiting

ive been fucked and non functional since my earliest memory

you really dont think for one minute that some people might be genetically incapable of finding modern life exciting

why don't you make any sports? go for a jog. you probably don't breathe properly because you sit all day. this depletes a lot of energy. think of your brain how it needs the oxygen, breath reaaal deep and compare how you breath normally. if there is a big difference there must be an effect.

Have you ever tried camping? Come home white man.

How the hell are you 300lbs while taking Ritalin? I've only been losing weight since taking it.

I prefer Modafinil though.

stay on as low a dose as you can, tolerance builds up quick, quicker when you do recreational doses
dont eat shitty junk food, eat well or you'll feel like shit
exercise regularly, it actually helps. meds are supposed to help you get along, not be the entire solution (they won't last forever due to tolerance).
build good habits while the effects last or you'll be right back to being a 300 pound fatass in no time, buy a treadmill if you have to, do some light lifting
stop watching porn and make computer time a reward, not your entire pastime
know that your life depends on it.

so... what are you going to do? keep complaining about your life on the internet? feeling sorry for yourself?
or get your ass up and change, for the better or the worse. and if nothing works at all, well... its your life and choice in the end

I'll answer in good faith, although I think I'll regret it.

Modern life is not an agent, it is a consequence of agents and the more you fail to act the more diluted your consequence and consequently it would become less to your liking. Drop the degenerate behaviour and force yourself to act. If not out of self interest than out of empathy for others like you. Look, if someone asked me before I was born if I had the choice to be born or remain nothing, I'd choose nothing but we don't get that choice and life is significant so all we can do is live a life to build a world such that if I was asked that question again I would choose to live. This is the burden of the white man. To see the blackpill and to bleach it. Stop hiding in excuses, even if they are valid. Act in spite of them. So what if you are a piece of shit abbo, you can still make a choice to endure and improve. As pathetic as it sounds, watch the berserk anime from 1997 and watch the protagonist guts. That struggle of will against the false light is ours and it's quite beautiful imo.

Claiming that modern life isn't to your liking is very cucked, it's not unchangeable so change it.
>A black bvll is cucking me, I don't like it, give me drugs

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Check OP's flag. He probably chases the pills with a cup of gravy

I've tried to change I can't I don't know how to function like normal people

Who is normal? The bitches aborting their babies? The cuckold males? The kvetching Jews? The violent blacks? The wandering white? They are all out there doing their thing but not you, because you aren't normal? Just get out the fucking house and make an impact however the fuck you want or stfu and die behind your screen alone and in fear of life.

Since I take Strattera for my ADD I'm extremely better, might be worth a try

a side effect is literally that your prostate blows up..

last advice before i leave you to your self-pity: stay away from the internet for 1 week. start right now, not tomorrow or on monday. see if that improves you/your life. i bet it will.

Ritalin is prescription cocaine
Lets gooo faggoooooooot