Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
m.youtube.com/watch?v=oIuW-vNQsQI >The kike owned us had to fund communism from the start because it failed day one >it's kike ideology
Justin Ortiz
YO LIL COMMIE, I JUST TOOK A SHIT IN A LOAF PAN AND BAKED IT FOR 3 HOURS BEFORE I ATE IT. BETTER THAN ANYTHING ON THE MENU IN YOUR LIL UTOPIA. I BET YOU FEEL PRETTY STUPID NOW, HUH HOSS?
It just dawned on me that Putin has basically been in charge of Russia for nearly 2 decades
Xavier Baker
Go be a discord tranny somewhere else fuckwit
Isaac Morgan
>NOOOO HOW DARE YOU HA E A DIFFERENT OPINION When did this place become so reddit? Communism has never worked and never will but he's allowed to post about it if he wants you autist freaks.
Josiah Kelly
did it also dawn on you that russian GDP halved after the collapse of communism and sex trafficking went up by 1000%
Look at eastern europe and you'll see if communism is "achievable". Bullshit idealogies like this are always a bad idea. There can never be a perfect society. We can't aim for no wage gaps between managers and employees, no corruption. We can only aim for the smallest wage gap between managers and employees and lowest ever corruption rates.
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Look at commies spreading more blatant bullshit and lies. Only commie faggots are retarded enough to see something like that and actually think it makes sense. Reality doesn't fit your narrative? Then keep twisting words to try and make it fit!
the USSR was the time eastern europe has been most prosperous
Andrew King
Checked for based Pole.
Leo Campbell
>"From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." Leads to misery and death youtube.com/watch?v=KCmJUobwKQk
Christopher Gonzalez
>posts a link you have to subscribe to to read You realise capitalism has killed far more people and muh hundred gorillion dead by commies is a boomer meme
Aaron Davis
because capitalism has only created a land of milk and honey
Camden Moore
ECONOMIC CALCULATION PROBLEM
Wyatt Brooks
At least Jow Forums can still agree that commies are retarded faggots.
If someone seeing this post believe this, i will actually put you in a labor camp and whip the shit out of you
Elijah Jones
no factual arguments? I have asked for facts and not been given them, capitalism is responsible for more death and war than anything else in history peruse this list
Nice meme and excelent way to make Mises appear out of nowhere! Now please explain how to calculate the value of a product in absence of a market economy :^)
Cooper Thomas
Underrated
Nolan Kelly
linear programming
Gavin Lewis
That is not a factual argument and the people have died from this is not a direct result of a capitalistic economic system--it is from a fucked up foreign policy system. Fucking commies, so fucking stupid.
Jace Long
i am going to provide sources for every (((US backed))) coup and war? dude go look in the sources at the bottom of the wiki article like all wiki articles have, tell me what you see
Logan Reed
Far less people died due to this than world wide communism, it's not even close.
Ethan Rodriguez
>Cockshott meme Well, its easy, we can just reformulate the question: how do you calculate the value of a product based on Cockshott theories?
Connor Ward
>capitalism doesn't kill g-guys. Africa is a mess because of nestle and bp and the iraq war was a prank b-bro
Luis Gutierrez
>people in the USSR didnt have personal property wrong dead wrong.
You know home ownership is higher in China than it is in the US.
Also do you know there are currently more prisoners in the US than were ever in the gulags
Samuel Brown
Now add famines in the subcontinent
Chase Davis
Tankies deserve a bullet
Brayden Johnson
As wassisname said about quantum physics, you shut up and do the maths
Jose Long
it is hillarious that you call me stupid from this comment and still haven't provided me with any facts whatsoever but complain about my lack of a factual argument
>free markets are not an ideology >capitalism has no ideology nigger are you completely fucking braindead
Adrian Morgan
Because the government officials made money off it. Government is corrupt and kills people. You stupid twat.
Brody Nguyen
>wrong dead wrong USSR had wage caps (100 rubles/month max) and you needed a loicense to buy something valuable (like a car).
Wage caps loosened with Gorbachev, but loicenses stayed in place until the collapse.
Christopher Ortiz
Same goes for you retard.
Jayden King
He's not wrong.
Henry Mitchell
no its because you incarcerate more people. You are a fucking retard you haven't a ctually looked at the facts which compare peak gulag population. Most people only went there for 5 years and most lived. Read a little history you fucking mongoloid instead of regurgitating cold war (((CIA))) propoganda
Leo Clark
wow its almost like US foreign policy is dictated by capitalist interests or something
Christopher Turner
>niggers having 16 kids each, of which 3/4ths starve to death >somehow capitalism's fault
Julian Nguyen
I provided a source rather than just saying "its not even close"
Camden Anderson
>computer Magic Please, tell us how do you calculate the value of a shoe with computers, It should be easy for you commies
Brandon Perez
do you deny that the US has been involved in regime change in these places? If you like really we can go through them 1 by 1
Justin Peterson
>Hey i want to buy and sell to wherever i want Wow so much ideology. I could apply this to cave people.
Hudson Jenkins
Then what's this? Yeah nah, we both know what these numbers are and I want to want to watch you squirm m8
Jeremiah Young
>cave people bought and sold stuff but they didn't
Hunter Gomez
About the south africa one you conviniently ignored how many terror attacls the ANC did. Still looked around tge web and nobpdy has the aperheid death toll(because the boers never genocided blacks)
Parker Wright
simple, you calculate the average amount of labour it takes to make the component parts of a shoe
Joshua Miller
You take the maths, you shove the numbers in and out pops a number
Luis Jones
Actually you braindead teethless animal, it is the foreign policy of the United States, the politic of containment, heard of it? Operation Condor was also based and redpilled because people like you we're assassinated by glowing niggers. You can assume that it was for economic interest, but i think that they do it for killing commies 3rd world niggers like you.
Ayden Martin
A source with no numbers you fucking retard.
Camden Richardson
A link to wikipedia. Any commie can go in and edit that place. No one takes it seriously except for people retarded enough to actually think communism works.
Jacob Martin
So you got nothing?
Josiah Allen
you are literally so economically and historically illiterate you think capitalism just happened and nobody brought it into being. What the fuck do you think the french revolution was?
Jacob Smith
>Trading value good like hides and berries is not a transaction mkay
Look for "Capitalism english wikipedia" first page, didn't have the need to scroll.
Grayson Diaz
Capitalism is not an ideology. Communism is.
Sebastian Scott
its funny that you keep saying this as it is clear you have never actually taken the 3 seconds to google it and look
Nathan Williams
>Two products of diferent quality that require the same amount of work have the same value too! And that's why you starve, fucking faggots
Benjamin Harris
Hear that frenchie guy, according to this burger you think communism works
Benjamin Butler
>trading value but they didnt do that, this is what im saying. Early human lived in village communities that practiced a primitive form of communism but it was managed by relegions
Brayden Ross
>more squirming
Nathan Cooper
The French revolution as nothing to do with capitalism...
Austin Williams
Communist revolutions have a way higher death toll and are much more violent generally than capitalist intervention. Here's my source btw: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_revolution
Hudson Morgan
>capitalism is not an ideology.
Oh my lord how can you actually believe this??????????? its bizzare its like speaking to cult members. What do you think came before capitalism?
